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kjw47 14-10-2017 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by white pegasus
theophilus-YOU ARE 100% CORRECT-THE BIBLE IS 100% CORRECT



Its proven fact--every trinity translation has alterations and errors. 2 from the ot=
In the Hebrew language, Elohim, never plural as gods for the true living God, is not a name, it carries various meanings.
Gods personal name was removed from the ot nearly 6800 places. Every spot-GOD--LORD appears all capitols, makes them altered right there,

In the Hebrew language--I am that I am = error--- I will be what I will be is correct.
Worship to a mortal Jesus = error. They bowed in obeisance to their king.( but he wasn't king yet) not until Rev 6.

Golden Eagle 07-11-2017 07:22 PM

oh you rattled the dead with this one! hear there bones shaking in the closet ~

kjw47 08-11-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Golden Eagle
oh you rattled the dead with this one! hear there bones shaking in the closet ~



I rattled the living, not the dead. Or in a sense you are correct.

white pegasus 12-11-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kjw47
Its proven fact--every trinity translation has alterations and errors. 2 from the ot=
In the Hebrew language, Elohim, never plural as gods for the true living God, is not a name, it carries various meanings.
Gods personal name was removed from the ot nearly 6800 places. Every spot-GOD--LORD appears all capitols, makes them altered right there,

In the Hebrew language--I am that I am = error--- I will be what I will be is correct.
Worship to a mortal Jesus = error. They bowed in obeisance to their king.( but he wasn't king yet) not until Rev 6.



kw-what is a trinity translation? what is the support of a proven fact that a trinity translation(whatever that is) has errors?

I mean really you come into a Christianity forum and say it is a proven fact???

kjw47 13-11-2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by white pegasus
kw-what is a trinity translation? what is the support of a proven fact that a trinity translation(whatever that is) has errors?

I mean really you come into a Christianity forum and say it is a proven fact???



Everyone who knows the facts of the bible knows my post is fact. Every trinity translation has mortals bowing in worship to a mortal Jesus( Heb 2:7-9)--Yet rev is clear--not even to bow in worship to an angel, Jesus was lower than the angels while on earth. = misleading error.

white pegasus 13-11-2017 11:43 PM

kw I know some facts of the Bible, but I do not know what a trinity translation is-is that a Bible?

Christ was made lower than the Angels for a little while, until His suffering on the ros and resurrection complete.

again-please provide your support for saying something is a fact

theophilus 14-11-2017 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kjw47
Everyone who knows the facts of the bible knows my post is fact. Every trinity translation has mortals bowing in worship to a mortal Jesus( Heb 2:7-9)--Yet rev is clear--not even to bow in worship to an angel, Jesus was lower than the angels while on earth. = misleading error.

He was made lower than the angels, which shows that before his incarnation he was greater than the angels. In fact, he was God, just as the Father was.

John 1:1-3 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made."

He created everything that exists. If he created everything then he himself was not created, therefore he is God and deserves our worship. Even while he was on earth he was worshiped; how much more does he deserve our worship not that he has been raised from the dead and returned to Heaven, to his former position.

Morpheus 18-11-2017 10:51 AM

Having fun everyone?
Decay, aging and death came to all of humanity at the fall. A seperation occurred.
And, not just to humanity, but all the world. What does this tell you about, "the world"?
You are passing from this into something else.

Kine Lea 18-11-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus
What does this tell you about, "the world"?


That Jesus chose the manner of his death well, to be crucified on the tree of life.

kjw47 20-11-2017 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theophilus
He was made lower than the angels, which shows that before his incarnation he was greater than the angels. In fact, he was God, just as the Father was.

John 1:1-3 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made."

He created everything that exists. If he created everything then he himself was not created, therefore he is God and deserves our worship. Even while he was on earth he was worshiped; how much more does he deserve our worship not that he has been raised from the dead and returned to Heaven, to his former position.



If your post was true==How did get raised up to a higher position than he ever had? Why did Jesus have to be appointed king--When God is king of eternity?
This is how he was raised up higher than he ever was--He was the chief prince( Michael) raised up to a kingship---But then( 1Cor 15:24-28)he must hand it back to his God and Father and subject himself) ---- forever.
Worship to a mortal Jesus is error in translation.

Prov 8= Gods master worker=the one God created all other things through--- Prov 8 clearly teaches how difficult it was to create this being direct. This is the being speaking, who came to earth and was named Jesus as a mortal.


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