I'm not seeing this twin flame stuff
 

Before you get all excited, just hear me out.

Maybe I just have a different perception.

As I read through this message board, and occasionally I read this section...through your posts, I don't see any spiritual meaning or unions. What I see is people who lack self love...and maybe ( law of attraction) you guys and gals are attracted to partners like yourself.

So in a sense, I can see somebody being a spiritual twin, as they lack the same thing. I read about these runners and chasers...male and females deal with things differently. Males usually run away from love..if they lack self love. Females do the same...but they will Chase an emotionally unavailable male (some guys do this, too)

The roles that males and females play usually, brought up by traditional and societal standards, will often show the way people cope (females- emotionally, males- physically)

The females usually chase unavailable males...workaholics, narcissistics, abusers and substance abusers, ECT.

Men will usually focus on the more physical aspects...sex, money, drugs, alcohol, unavailable women ...married, uninterested, usually someone who is more intelligent, or has more money, harder worker, prestige, stronger family ties, mother figure, or much younger than themselves, ECT.

This isn't always the case, lots of men will get into relationship with somebody alot like themselves, too...which is usually dysfunctional.

And you all usually come to the same conclusion...in the end.
You need to work on yourselves, and love yourselves first.

And that's a long road to recovery.

In the meantime, you all want to be loved so desperately...by people who can't love you ...because they don't even know how to love themselves.

I'm going to go on a limb here, and say...most of it stems from childhood programmation. Abusive homes, abandonment issues, workaholic or unavailable parents, substance abuse in home, ECT. Overall lack of love and guidance.

Subconsciously...you are attracted to someone...who is mirroring the way your mother's and father's treated you.

And most of you...wouldn't be happy if your "twin flame" did live you and treated you right because it wouldn't align with your own idea of what is attractive... unavailable men, drama, self sabotage, abuse, cheating, lies, ECT.

That's why, imo...you are chasing these unavailable men and women ...cause they can deliver on that, except they are tied up with causing someone else emotional and mental pain.

Everybody needs to heal...you can't give what you don't got.

I think though, there are glimpses of hope.

I'm a firm believer in energy, vibrations, and the spirit.

I see, or read about your spiritual experiences..with these people, dreams, synchronicity, ECT.

You are capable of loving yourselves...because you are raising your vibrations to have these experiences...you are capable of healing...if you are having these experiences because those higher vibrations are divine vibrations. That's when it's easiest to have these experiences...and you can, because you are made in the image of God.

And once you heal...you are not going to want an unavailable man or woman, a cheater, a liar, abuser, ECT.

No, you are going to want someone on your level, someone like you. And then, you will know that you love yourself..and that you have scars, but you are saved by grace and God...and yoy. you.

God just wants us to love ourselves, to see ourselves in his image...to love ourselves like God does. To know our own self worth.

You can't heal from an abuser, if you can ..you are doing it the hard way. You go to a counselor, doctor, therapist when you are sick....not to an alcoholic, abuser, liar, thief, murderer, ECT.

The heavily wounded society we live in.

I agree. Everyone is hurt, has hurt, is getting over hurt. Be it childhood or allhood.

Everyone seeks love, to love, be loved and love themselves.

Everyone has most likely, will likely, or is learning to not likely chase, run after painful relationships. Later calling false twin, karmic, etc.

Until SPIRITUALITY is involved there will always be seeking, chasing and tears for love. Its not the love they expect but its the only one to heal such a big gap of a wound. Then, maybe then they will be able to love others and attract the true soul match for them.

For the most part. Romantics are seeking romance not a spiritual journey.
to avoid their pain. not heal it.

I suppose you'd need to experience it before you could make a true judgement on it.

I would have likely said the same thing or something similar to these people before I experienced it myself, now I know... you have no idea what you are talking about - and I say that kindly.

You just don't know if you don't know.

It's not about convincing non-twins that it is happening.

If it's not happening to you, it's not for you. You will never understand, unless you are experiencing the genuine article.

It's a rare phenomenon.

One does not seek their true Soulmate...true Soulmates are drawn together.

But if two Soulmates are on different paths in life before & after Earth life then they may never meet each other, & with all of the non loving un'holy Earth life going on, it is more than likely that no body has found their true Soulmate.
I am led to believe that 99.999999999 etc % of People in the life after Earth, in the summerlands..(lesser Heavens) have not & will not find their Soulmates, so what chance do Earthlings have.

On Earth they maybe on other sides of the planet, & in the life after Earth they maybe on other sides of the one & only spiritual universe living & or experiencing their individual lives.

& it is also a possibility that you all do not understand how & what spiritual Soul mates are.
Are you aware that before birth, we are each one individual half of a whole "blank" Soul..(a Soul without an aware identity/personality)... which has two opposite components, & each one of the two components being of a different make up. One equal half is to be Female & the other equal half is to be Male, & neither have received an identity/personality as their PREDETERMINED MALE OR FEMALE PERSONALITY, untill either of those Soul halves have been seperated & drawn away from the other, towards a Male & Female couple at the moment of conception who are engaged in sexual intercourse.

Soul mates have no choice in regards to having a mental physical match with each other in regards to each other's physical, creative, artistic, scientific or mathematical abilities etc, as those abilities are individualy given to them by the combined DNA of their biological parents & each soul half has different biological parents than the other, so each may have completely different mental abilities.

& after the Earth life, & even if both Soulmates enter the most gigantic lesser Heavens they may follow a completely different path, as they have done on Earth & may never find each other.

However, if one or the other individualy follows a path towards becoming a christed being, & after being transformed into a child of the Christ God entity, it can be then that they can be advised of the workings of the Soul & of the Soulmate phenomena, & be advised as to who their other Soul half is & where to find them.

& after all, the Christ God entity created all pre'birth blank Souls, & so it is, only on the "divine love path" ( the at onement with God path) that a person can seek & find their true Soul half.

For anyones considerations...Regards Neil

Colorado, it is tempting to deride this section for being a collection of dysfunctional lonely-hearts. I’ve done it myself in moments of angst and despair.

However, for you to suggest most here are blatantly chasing alcoholics, abusers, liars, thieves and murderers is a bit rich..

You are indeed out on a limb when you point the finger at childhood programming, gender assumptions and lack of self-love for reasons why TF stuff exists.

I, for one, had an amazing childhood, complete with loving guidance. Also, in my life I’ve known many very strong women and more than a few sensitive males.
None of this has anything to do with loving my SC/TF whatever...

Self-love appears to be an important topic not only in this sub-forum, but all across the SF board. I struggle with it and I’m sure others do as well. However, no need to blame anyone else for my lack or chase someone to avoid my pain.

I believe TF stuff embodies the tantalizing combo of Spirit/Soul + Romance. That is my perception. Whether we achieve our soul’s desire or not remains the mystery.

Nothing wrong with different perspectives, they are good. I would agree with some of what you said. I would agree that it is not about unions. It is not about what the tarot tf readers and tf teachers or whatever you'd call them talk about. It is not what it is generally portrayed to be, that I would agree with.
I cannot agree that there is no spiritual meaning. That was the only meaning in it for me. And while I agree that our childhood's play into our experiences as adults, simply chasing someone that is unavailable or lacking self- love CANNOT explain all of the spiritual stuff that it lead to. All of the spiritual experiences and the awakening I had started with meeting the tf. I'm not just talking about some dreams and signs either, I'm talking about un-explainable spiritual experiences like contact with entities and my third eye opening. Just to be clear, because if it were just some dreams and signs, I would probably agree with you.
It also lead me to finally understanding what "God" really is. God is us, not some far-off "He". That was probably the most profound thing. And just to be clear, the healing that I did do, came from the inner work, which was inspired by the "twin flame". It wasn't the twin flame that healed me through having any number of negative issues. It's all about the inner work.

Is there no place on the internet we can be loons in peace...lol

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You made my day brighter.