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Buddha was quite clear that even realized attachements are a cause for suffering. Except for the desire to reach nirvana. Once that is realized you're good. Reason being that every phenomenon is transient, so once attained or realized it's leaving or vanishing is allready a certainty. With Love Eelco |
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That all makes sense to me. I think nirvana is emptiness so I was thinking. yes if one realizes or embodies emptiness, there is no self there as far as thought. Consciousness and awareness is there though. But no ego type stuff. So that realization leaves no residue. It does not create desire or anything really. It just is. So no suffering can come from that if present. I suppose it may pass and so perhaps thought or ego can come in and seek it creating conflict or suffering but then nirvana, if one knows where it hides, creates no conflict in it's pursuit since the known method of residing there is letting go of seeking. |
I agree with you sky123
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' Consciousness and awareness is there though. But no ego type stuff.' I think of this as ' Awareness without consciousness ' a state of pure awareness, been there many times but unfortunately it doesn't last :smile: |
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Yes it's difficult to let go sometimes but it is possible and we can but try :smile: |
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Thanks for sharing this. It really resonates with me. I was reading some quotes by Zen teacher Charlotte Joko Beck yesterday and she said the same thing - suffering comes from not accepting what is and demanding it be different. I had heard that before but I didn't realize how much it applies to ME. So I take your post as a confirmation message. |
Maybe the only way to overcome desire and attachment is by replacing them with LOVE.
Desires seem to constantly arise, but if we could deliberately take a perspective of choosing love (including self-love), in each moment, it could be a great healing. In other words, in the present moment, when desire arises, we could choose to love, in whatever form love may take, instead of seeking pleasure or fulfilling attachment. |
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Isn't selfless desires love? |
Tanha-Desires/Cravings.
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Some plays on words based on your post comes to my mind... Are you sure you were there when pure awareness was present? If it is present, are you? Maybe you have never been there, but the absence of "you" manifests the experience of it. How do we know we are not always there? How do we know it doesn't last? If we are awareness, then we are there always if we are awake. But then why do we not experience it always? Why are we aware of other realities. Why does awareness focus on thought, beliefs, ideas and not the emptiness and peace and mystery of now? Why is reality contracting instead of expanding? I would guess it's because awareness is preoccupied with the things in the ball that make up the self. When awareness takes it's attention off of these things they cease to be a part of experience and so experience changes. One finds themselves there. But then we are always there just choosing to make here about self and not about what it is. We make it about the self and not about what it is without self. |
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