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django 04-12-2017 12:43 AM

Seek the Kingdom Within
 
Jesus in the bible is quoted as saying "Seek the Kingdom within". This doesn't seem to square with Christianity's promotion of 'have faith in Jesus' and surrender to Jesus as the way, yet this seems to be the majority Christian view still.

What would happen if I told a normal Christian that I was seeking the Kingdom within, just as Jesus said in the bible?

Would 'good' Christians think me foolish, or even evil?

Is it better to just shut up?

FallingLeaves 04-12-2017 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by django
Jesus in the bible is quoted as saying "Seek the Kingdom within". This doesn't seem to square with Christianity's promotion of 'have faith in Jesus' and surrender to Jesus as the way, yet this seems to be the majority Christian view still.

What would happen if I told a normal Christian that I was seeking the Kingdom within, just as Jesus said in the bible?

Would 'good' Christians think me foolish, or even evil?

Is it better to just shut up?


whether or not you shut up it depends on whether you are astute enough to guess that having 'good christians' mad at you might actually be good for seeking.

django 04-12-2017 01:57 AM

Let me explain in a bit more detail. My son has recently started at a Baptist Christian school, because he was being bullied in the public system, and the Christian schools tend to have good pastoral care and still be relatively cheap (we couldn't afford an expensive private school).

So, I got chatting with one of the other parents at my sons basketball game, and asked her what Baptists actually believe. Within this conversation I mentioned that I have prayed to Jesus in times of need, but otherwise I just do my own thing, and this in turn led to a text a few days later inviting me to her church.

So I haven't responded to that text yet, sent about a week ago, and I'm wondering, how on earth should I respond, I'd like to hear what others might do that keeps me honest but not off-siding someone who's just being a 'normal' and kind Christian.

AHIYAH 04-12-2017 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by django
Let me explain in a bit more detail. My son has recently started at a Baptist Christian school, because he was being bullied in the public system, and the Christian schools tend to have good pastoral care and still be relatively cheap (we couldn't afford an expensive private school).

So, I got chatting with one of the other parents at my sons basketball game, and asked her what Baptists actually believe. Within this conversation I mentioned that I have prayed to Jesus in times of need, but otherwise I just do my own thing, and this in turn led to a text a few days later inviting me to her church.

So I haven't responded to that text yet, sent about a week ago, and I'm wondering, how on earth should I respond, I'd like to hear what others might do that keeps me honest but not off-siding someone who's just being a 'normal' and kind Christian.

Well you could say i respect your choice for the life changing ways you have found but I have my own spiritual journey to walk and its a dear personal thing for me. If I ever have the urge to attend your church in the future I won't hesitate to check it out and thanks for the offer. Or something in an around about kinda way. I'm sure you will get some good ideas from the SF members.

Jeremy Bong 04-12-2017 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by django
Jesus in the bible is quoted as saying "Seek the Kingdom within". This doesn't seem to square with Christianity's promotion of 'have faith in Jesus' and surrender to Jesus as the way, yet this seems to be the majority Christian view still.

What would happen if I told a normal Christian that I was seeking the Kingdom within, just as Jesus said in the bible?

Would 'good' Christians think me foolish, or even evil?

Is it better to just shut up?


Hi django,

My understanding of "seek the kingdom within" is what he said of his mindset. If you don't have a good quality within you what you do is futile. (This has nothing with the energy, because energy is belonging to physical uses but not for the pushing of mind power for dharma). That's kingdom within. Your mind will remain as a row self that's unrefined. After it's polished and uplifted or enlightened you'll have the kingdom within you.

sky 04-12-2017 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by django
Let me explain in a bit more detail. My son has recently started at a Baptist Christian school, because he was being bullied in the public system, and the Christian schools tend to have good pastoral care and still be relatively cheap (we couldn't afford an expensive private school).

So, I got chatting with one of the other parents at my sons basketball game, and asked her what Baptists actually believe. Within this conversation I mentioned that I have prayed to Jesus in times iof need, but otherwise I just do my own thing, and this in turn led to a text a few days later inviting me to her church.

So I haven't responded to that text yet, sent about a week ago, and I'm wondering, how on earth should I respond, I'd like to hear what others might do that keeps me honest but not off-siding someone who's just being a 'normal' and kind Christian.


I have been in your situation, being invited to church services which I didn't want to participate in. You don't want to hurt the other persons feelings but I think it's best to be honest and explain to them that you don't feel the need to follow a specific religion but thanks anyway.
You are in a difficult situation as you have put your child into a school which teaches the Baptist religion and there probably will be situations when you will be invited to accompany your child to church and participate, I myself would support your child on his journey until he can decide for himself what religion he wants or doesn't want to follow, grin and bare it for now, go when your Son wants to go but also keep your own beliefs separate.

Shivani Devi 04-12-2017 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by django
Let me explain in a bit more detail. My son has recently started at a Baptist Christian school, because he was being bullied in the public system, and the Christian schools tend to have good pastoral care and still be relatively cheap (we couldn't afford an expensive private school).

So, I got chatting with one of the other parents at my sons basketball game, and asked her what Baptists actually believe. Within this conversation I mentioned that I have prayed to Jesus in times of need, but otherwise I just do my own thing, and this in turn led to a text a few days later inviting me to her church.

So I haven't responded to that text yet, sent about a week ago, and I'm wondering, how on earth should I respond, I'd like to hear what others might do that keeps me honest but not off-siding someone who's just being a 'normal' and kind Christian.

You can always say "thank you for your kind invitation, I shall consider it and let you know" and leave it there.

As for the topic, Jesus said "seek the kingdom within" and others say "the way to God is through Jesus" so you connect the dots...The way to God is through Jesus and Jesus says to seek the kingdom within"...it's win/win.

Kine Lea 04-12-2017 11:11 AM

I believe the kingdom within is explained further in The Lord's Prayer.

sky 04-12-2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kine Lea
I believe the kingdom within is explained further in The Lord's Prayer.


Yes we all believe differently, some through prayer others through self realization, free will to believe what we choose is a gift....

white pegasus 04-12-2017 02:08 PM

django-it certainly is a dilemma-you placed your child in a different school due to the bullying that was going on in the old school. Now he is just getting acclimated at his new school when an invite comes from a parent. I wonder if there is some small fear that if you do not accept the invitation that perhaps he will again experience another negative experience.

You basically have 3 options-graciously decline, accept-go-keep an open mind-or you could simply say, let me pray about it.

Another way to possibly look at this-maybe you can explain to her that you are seeking with an open mind-will attend-but do not want to promise to continue attending until you have come to a decision about which direction you are heading.


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