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Universal.Vibe 06-01-2018 02:31 PM

Escape from Grand canyon city 🃏
 
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Grand canyon city where everybody lives their life peacefully and all know their place, but unknowingly to the inhabitants somebody has planted a bomb in the very core of the city and its only a matter of time before it explodes.


okay so the term path of least resistance is circular logic as by taking a path it was by default the path of least resistance.
however my understanding neuro works along the lines of the more a pathway connecting neurons is fired the more those connections are reinforced and the more they are reinforced the easier it it for them to be triggered.
essentially leading to constant reinforcement of the thing we already do or know.
This is very similar to how the grand canyon was formed by erosion.

I guess the spiritual development part of this is that growth comes when we call upon the wild card of our soul to diverge from the path and just do something new or different, maybe even just entertaining the possibility of a new idea.

naturesflow 06-01-2018 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Universal.Vibe
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Grand canyon city where everybody lives their life peacefully and all know their place, but unknowingly to the inhabitants somebody has planted a bomb in the very core of the city and its only a matter of time before it explodes.


okay so the term path of least resistance is circular logic as by taking a path it was by default the path of least resistance.
however my understanding neuro works along the lines of the more a pathway connecting neurons is fired the more those connections are reinforced and the more they are reinforced the easier it it for them to be triggered.
essentially leading to constant reinforcement of the thing we already do or know.
This is very similar to how the grand canyon was formed by erosion.

I guess the spiritual development part of this is that growth comes when we call upon the wild card of our soul to diverge from the path and just do something new or different, maybe even just entertaining the possibility of a new idea.


I like your view.

Breaking free can work in many ways, but what your saying makes sense. When you shake things up a little differently, add new things to the picture of yourself, you actually intermingle your old views into a bigger picture, so as I see this, the seeds in this way, can create new pathways in the brain where your old foundation doesn't remained so fixed and affected.

FallingLeaves 07-01-2018 12:21 AM

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I like your view.

Breaking free can work in many ways, but what your saying makes sense. When you shake things up a little differently, add new things to the picture of yourself, you actually intermingle your old views into a bigger picture, so as I see this, the seeds in this way, can create new pathways in the brain where your old foundation doesn't remained so fixed and affected.


In my view, it isn't always necessary to be gathering new stuff just to proceed. Sometimes simply accepting that I can't have something that I dearly want, or alternately accepting that I have to put up with things I really do not want to put up with, is all it takes to make me think about the path forwards.

Universal.Vibe 07-01-2018 12:29 AM

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In my view, it isn't always necessary to be gathering new stuff just to proceed. Sometimes simply accepting that I can't have something that I dearly want, or alternately accepting that I have to put up with things I really do not want to put up with, is all it takes to make me think about the path forwards.


But isn't that acceptance something new in its self?

FallingLeaves 07-01-2018 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Universal.Vibe
But isn't that acceptance something new in its self?


hm... I think you got me there :smile:

Universal.Vibe 07-01-2018 12:55 AM

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hm... I think you got me there :smile:


Hehehe :cool: :cool: :cool:

Lorelyen 07-01-2018 10:27 AM

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okay so the term path of least resistance is circular logic as by taking a path it was by default the path of least resistance.
however my understanding neuro works along the lines of the more a pathway connecting neurons is fired the more those connections are reinforced and the more they are reinforced the easier it it for them to be triggered.
essentially leading to constant reinforcement of the thing we already do or know.
This is very similar to how the grand canyon was formed by erosion.

Interesting... You mention neurones. I can't recall all I learned about neurobiology (it's always interested me though) but I don't think an individual synapse is reinforced by repeated use (anyone, correct me if I'm wrong) but there is patterning obviously as learning, memory and action rely on it. Repeated stimulus does reinforce a response. So it looks like some selective process is at work - a stimulus arrives, fires off one or more neurones and the entire pattern is invoked. How such patterns can be broken I don't know - they can. We don't have to respond "in a normal way" when something happens.

But this is why I look on human functions as a huge data processing machine with its various levels of (memory) database hierarchy, archive, executive, sometimes working autonomously but otherwise under executive control. We can deviate from the path of least resistance if we want to explore a wider awareness. (LOL, I ust had a thought that the soul is the root directory and boot-up list that loads and maintains our operating system. I'll have to think more about that! :D)

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I guess the spiritual development part of this is that growth comes when we call upon the wild card of our soul to diverge from the path and just do something new or different, maybe even just entertaining the possibility of a new idea.
Yup. It's possibly easier for the creative mentality to be more aware of entries to new avenues, a willingness to explore jungles either side of the straight and narrow, well-trodden familiarity!

Nice one, Universal.Vibe. :smile:

naturesflow 07-01-2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
In my view, it isn't always necessary to be gathering new stuff just to proceed. Sometimes simply accepting that I can't have something that I dearly want, or alternately accepting that I have to put up with things I really do not want to put up with, is all it takes to make me think about the path forwards.



If there is one thing you dearly want and cant have it, there is always another thing you might notice. Perhaps you could go outside at night and look up at the night sky, gaze at the stars and wonder if the moon has risen. In that moment you might decide to smile and capture something you haven't experienced before in that way. Nature doesn't mind what you wish to partake in..Your brain might get a nice surprise. Who knows?

Gosh you need some optimism in your world me thinks.:hug3:

Shivani Devi 07-01-2018 11:37 AM

If everybody is living their lives peacefully and somebody has planted a bomb unknowingly to them, wouldn't everybody just be blown up? and so escape from Grand Canyon City would be through death?

Universal.Vibe 07-01-2018 03:20 PM

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If everybody is living their lives peacefully and somebody has planted a bomb unknowingly to them, wouldn't everybody just be blown up? and so escape from Grand Canyon City would be through death?


Well anybody that knows about the bomb can maybe just move to a different city?
However if you run around saying "there's a bomb, there's a bomb! your all gonna die"
They'll just think your crazy and you'll end up in a straight jacket.

Universal.Vibe 07-01-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorelyen
How such patterns can be broken I don't know - they can.


The brain is a big deal but I don't believe its the be all end all, I think its more of a physical representive of something more and for that fact alone it deserves a great deal of attention.
(Also yes my explanation was just for simplicities sake, its a little more complicated than that, but the basic premise still holds true)

Lorelyen 07-01-2018 10:28 PM

Can't disagree. Although it is the machine that controls almost all the body, there are certain sub-processes and autonomous functions that can operate independent of the brain - but the brain can intervene in some cases, or the autonomous processes rely on measurements made in the brain (e.g breathing regulated by the measurement of carbon dioxide in the blood). We breathe (naturally) but we can override the brain's instructions, to breathe as we want.

However, that doesn't explain creative impulse, whatever imagination may be....inspiration from...where? Dreaming or daydreaming audio/visual things that could never be drawn from experiences; it also doesn't explain why certain feelings occur for instance in the solar plexus and/or stomach in the presence of sets of stimuli that somehow accord with some buried "data" within us like bits of a jigsaw puzzle fitting. I mean, why? I suppose it becomes information to inform us of excitement, fear, etc.

Complex indeed but interesting (to me, anyway).

Greenslade 08-01-2018 12:38 AM

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I guess the spiritual development part of this is that growth comes when we call upon the wild card of our soul to diverge from the path and just do something new or different, maybe even just entertaining the possibility of a new idea.

There are two different things at work when it comes to this, one is how we think and the other is cognitive dissonance. Some people are lateral thinkers, they won't create patterns to readily and if information comes along that's in conflict with their pattern, sometimes they'll change the whole pattern to accommodate that piece. Column thinkers tend to create patterns readily, and information is accepted or rejected accordingly. Einstein said that genius is being able to hold two opposing concepts in the mind at the same time, and psychology calls it cognitive dissonance. If a single stone is tossed into a pond it causes ripples, two stones cause interference patterns where they overlap. Some brains just can't cope, and when they lock on to certain information they'll lock out what isn't in harmony with their 'ripples' - like Spiritual vs mundane for instance. Some brains like their reinforced connections (same old same old) and anything else doen't compute.

It helps to refresh the energies every once in a while, so if you're religious in your Spirituality go have a few beers instead or watch an action adventure. Or both. Instead of hitting the forums go see a football match with your buddies, that way they won't think you're so much of a religious nut.

barrynu 08-01-2018 12:59 AM

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Grand canyon city where everybody lives their life peacefully and all know their place, but unknowingly to the inhabitants somebody has planted a bomb in the very core of the city and its only a matter of time before it explodes.



The Bomb goes off in Grand Canyon City..................!!!!!!

The peolpe are shocked and support the victims in all ways.
They want to know, How this happened? Why this happened?.........................but the investigtion doesn't focus totally on "Who" but also on the Emotions of those behind the act,,,, to better communications with those that feel a need to hurt you.

I thought to myself "what a great society,the people of Grand Canyon City".........and a Bomb went off right behind me.

Universal.Vibe 08-01-2018 02:03 AM

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Can't disagree. Although it is the machine that controls almost all the body

However, that doesn't explain creative impulse, whatever imagination may be....inspiration from...where?

I feel like you are giving the machine too much credit and not enough credit at the same time.
1. Too much because: you are making an assumption that the machine truly is in control, not that it matters because for all intensive perposes it seems so.
2. Not enough because: creativity is as simple as smashing concepts together and seeing what happens :biggrin: like creating a child ?

Universal.Vibe 08-01-2018 02:15 AM

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Einstein said that genius is being able to hold two opposing concepts in the mind at the same time, and psychology calls it cognitive dissonance.


They say god is ambivalent.
I say if conflicting truths exist there is probably a 3rd higher truth connecting the two (or however many) :tongue:

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They want to know, How this happened? Why this happened?.........................but the investigtion doesn't focus totally on "Who" but also on the Emotions of those behind the act.


They did it out of boredom, although if you asked them they would say it was to cleanse the world of the weak for the sake of evolution or something.

hallow 08-01-2018 03:37 AM

I like this thread so far, i have nothing to add but its good to read.

FallingLeaves 08-01-2018 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by naturesflow
If there is one thing you dearly want and cant have it, there is always another thing you might notice. Perhaps you could go outside at night and look up at the night sky, gaze at the stars and wonder if the moon has risen. In that moment you might decide to smile and capture something you haven't experienced before in that way. Nature doesn't mind what you wish to partake in..Your brain might get a nice surprise. Who knows?

Gosh you need some optimism in your world me thinks.:hug3:


yeah that was kinda what I was thinking... I found a lot of stuff I never would have expected once I had to divorce myself from 'what I dearly wanted' :hug:

as far as optimism, don't want to mess with the formula right now as I feel like I'm on somewhat of an even keel. Although maybe that in and of itself is a reason to change!

Greenslade 08-01-2018 11:47 PM

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They say god is ambivalent.
I say if conflicting truths exist there is probably a 3rd higher truth connecting the two (or however many) :tongue:

If you're talking Old Testament God, he's ambivalent because he's sometimes Enki and sometimes Enlil. If you're talking about a Universal God/Source then him/it and the truth are relative to one's own agenda. There is a third higher, in Sacred Geometry it's called the Vesica Pisces and in pre-Taoist alchemy it's called Triplex Unity.

Universal.Vibe 09-01-2018 12:37 AM

I just meant duality & the 3rd being unity?
God being the universe as a whole I guess?

Greenslade 09-01-2018 09:44 AM

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I just meant duality & the 3rd being unity?
God being the universe as a whole I guess?

It's a buy two get one free thing, the third is understanding the relationship between the two while most think binary - either this or that. Duality means the best part is missing.

God made man, man made religion and truths so the Universe as a whole is pretty much man-made. That's why God is apparently schizophrenic - he stood back and let us get on with it because he couldn't be bothered any more.

Universal.Vibe 09-01-2018 12:16 PM

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That's why God is apparently schizophrenic

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schizophrenia. from Modern Latin, literally "a splitting of the mind,"


Schitzo quite literally meaning ambivalent, but like to the point where it becomes a problem.
I think we are all ambivalent to some degree, I mean when im thirsty and want a soft drink it takes me a good few minutes to decide.


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