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Nowayout 19-01-2018 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
anybody can say the words 'I want I desire' and often people do. These boards are rife with such.

But it takes real moxy to pray and ask god what HE wants.



He!

I wonder, I figure in my heart God is without the strain of gender.:wink:

Emerald Heart, I want you...

You can rebuild engines from youtube!

shivatar 19-01-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gar81
Hey all

It’s considering Jesus level of spiritual development I’m thinking he must have meditated, also I have been told that’s what he did for 40 days in the dessert. What do ye think.


I think prayer is just another form of meditation. and Jesus prayed like a MF

Amilius777 19-01-2018 05:11 PM

he did. But it wasn't for attainment

I think a lot of the New Age stuff on Jesus is wrong. It's a bunch of strange ideas from a hundred different sources who just hated Christianity

I don't believe Jesus started a religion. And I don't believe Jesus started a church

But I do believe he was the Gift to the Israelite Nation from their God they worshipped. A gift to the human race

There are certain beings or Entities you may have heard of called "ascended masters". You always have to be careful praying to them. The reason is because lower- Dark beings try to masquerade as them. Because the lower ones are fallen spirits who were once at a higher state.

The "ascended masters" vary from beings who've once lived on Earth or never did. Many of the deities and divine beings of many religions. Some like the Buddha were human many times and attained mastery while their sojourn on the Earth plane.

Jesus was an ascended master and highly evolved soul who never had to lower himself to the human form to learn lessons. He sustained a higher vibration like many other beings. The difference between Jesus and the others is that his oneness with what he called 'The Father' or Source was very intimate and powerful. That is why God, the Universal All-Highest Power had this individual Higher-power (Jesus) made a human for our sake.

Jesus was born with a certain purity and perfect slate since he had no past lives. His meditations were to keep his divinity and humanity in harmony with each other.

The movie Last Temptation of Christ is flawed in it's depiction but has some insights into his struggles. It wasn't easy peasy for him. He had a huge mission on his shoulders.

He was more of a "descended avatar" of God, who became an ascended master from the life he lived as Jesus. His followers addressed him as "the Son of God" which was the appropriate title for his purpose in the climate and culture he lived in. And he accepted that. Because he truly was the One and Only Higher Being who was made incarnate into the Earth plane by God, whereas other souls who've become higher spirits did it by long efforts on their own.

Jesus' incarnation was an act of Grace. It was to remind the human species of something we had long forgotten. Our ancestors opened the door to complete free will with no strings attached. The result of course was an advancement but a loss of innocence and "oneness" with the Creator and Creative Spirit-Force. It was two steps forward, one step back. New doors were opened, but the door to oneness in the "physical" dimension with God was closed for over several 10,000s of years.

Jesus came as a "new Adam" to reopen a Door that was closed. Sadly Christians called that our damnation with the fruit and Eve etc. It wasn't so much that. It was a closing off while something else opened up. Everything in life is a blessing and a curse. But in Jesus' act on the Cross it was a reopening for Souls on Earth to the most intimate, unconditional, truest aspect dimension of God- Love, Mercy, and Forgiveness; the Christ Consciousness.

I hope that all made sense ... lol

shivatar 20-01-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amilius777
he did. But it wasn't for attainment

I think a lot of the New Age stuff on Jesus is wrong. It's a bunch of strange ideas from a hundred different sources who just hated Christianity

I don't believe Jesus started a religion. And I don't believe Jesus started a church

But I do believe he was the Gift to the Israelite Nation from their God they worshipped. A gift to the human race

There are certain beings or Entities you may have heard of called "ascended masters". You always have to be careful praying to them. The reason is because lower- Dark beings try to masquerade as them. Because the lower ones are fallen spirits who were once at a higher state.

The "ascended masters" vary from beings who've once lived on Earth or never did. Many of the deities and divine beings of many religions. Some like the Buddha were human many times and attained mastery while their sojourn on the Earth plane.

Jesus was an ascended master and highly evolved soul who never had to lower himself to the human form to learn lessons. He sustained a higher vibration like many other beings. The difference between Jesus and the others is that his oneness with what he called 'The Father' or Source was very intimate and powerful. That is why God, the Universal All-Highest Power had this individual Higher-power (Jesus) made a human for our sake.

Jesus was born with a certain purity and perfect slate since he had no past lives. His meditations were to keep his divinity and humanity in harmony with each other.

The movie Last Temptation of Christ is flawed in it's depiction but has some insights into his struggles. It wasn't easy peasy for him. He had a huge mission on his shoulders.

He was more of a "descended avatar" of God, who became an ascended master from the life he lived as Jesus. His followers addressed him as "the Son of God" which was the appropriate title for his purpose in the climate and culture he lived in. And he accepted that. Because he truly was the One and Only Higher Being who was made incarnate into the Earth plane by God, whereas other souls who've become higher spirits did it by long efforts on their own.

Jesus' incarnation was an act of Grace. It was to remind the human species of something we had long forgotten. Our ancestors opened the door to complete free will with no strings attached. The result of course was an advancement but a loss of innocence and "oneness" with the Creator and Creative Spirit-Force. It was two steps forward, one step back. New doors were opened, but the door to oneness in the "physical" dimension with God was closed for over several 10,000s of years.

Jesus came as a "new Adam" to reopen a Door that was closed. Sadly Christians called that our damnation with the fruit and Eve etc. It wasn't so much that. It was a closing off while something else opened up. Everything in life is a blessing and a curse. But in Jesus' act on the Cross it was a reopening for Souls on Earth to the most intimate, unconditional, truest aspect dimension of God- Love, Mercy, and Forgiveness; the Christ Consciousness.

I hope that all made sense ... lol


what I mostly heard is "i dont like other peoples ideas, here are mine"

Inika 20-01-2018 09:08 PM

hahaha omg this forum! good for giggles.

Nowayout 21-01-2018 02:11 AM

When spiritual insights come to me sometimes it makes me laugh, it's so beautifully simple in its execution, so hard to get.

Then I forget what it was that made me laugh and I go back to work.

I pray, God help me... it calms my nerves anyway you look at it, and then I feel better.

Cheers... Love you all when I'm smiling and even when I'm not.

But then I can get snarly you must know what I mean about that.

Amilius777, I liked your observations..

Jesus' incarnation was an act of Grace. It was to remind the human species of something we had long forgotten. Our ancestors opened the door to complete free will with no strings attached. The result of course was an advancement but a loss of innocence and "oneness" with the Creator and Creative Spirit-Force. It was two steps forward, one step back. New doors were opened, but the door to oneness in the "physical" dimension with God was closed for over several 10,000s of years.

Jesus came as a "new Adam" to reopen a Door that was closed. Sadly Christians called that our damnation with the fruit and Eve etc. It wasn't so much that. It was a closing off while something else opened up. Everything in life is a blessing and a curse. But in Jesus' act on the Cross it was a reopening for Souls on Earth to the most intimate, unconditional, truest aspect dimension of God- Love, Mercy, and Forgiveness; the Christ Consciousness.



I like this, the act of Gods Grace. Jesus with us, something went wrong, Jesus came back to make it right.
A blessing and a curse is life, true enough.

The truth is Love, Mercy, Forgiveness, and freedom from damnation!

Christ Consiousness in spades.

Miss Hepburn 31-01-2018 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Imzadi
In my experience, meditation is simply being present with Presence Itself. Another way I put it is meditation is like conscious immersion with God. So meditation can be described as simply focusing on God and being Conscious. I imagine someone like Jesus Christ would consistently be in holy communion with God thus would be in a clear Conscious state all of the time. However, this doesn't mean that it is not also spiritually edifying for him to spend some time alone and quietly immerse in His own Divinity in what people might see as a meditative/prayerful practice. :)

This is my favorite post, thank you.


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