Well it refers to the experience you are having, in context with the first part which you left off: with "no imagination or verbalisation".

Not to mention the wider context of the post I replied to - and my agreement "yep"... and even though the snippet itself is fairly specific, given the context from which it was taken, the meaning wouild clear to anyone, and if it weren't clearly understood, a reasonable person would simply ask for an explanation. Given what was said to me, was said, I'm not sure if what I imply is going to be inferred.

You do realize that isn’t a goal in Buddhism?

Imagination isn’t bad. The Buddha used it a lot to tell stories people could relate to.

Also what does verbalization have to do with anything?

The quote is about being that was referenced. It is a being that one realizes not a thought, concept, etc.

What is as it is with total silence is not nirvana.

What is as it is can mean a million different things. Even the understanding of the quote you referenced means something different to me than you.

As it is to me is the Primordial State, perfect clarity and beyond duality. If you are not at that realization you are far from as it is.

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Ah! The penny drops! Tell us more :smile:

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Or nothing since no words or thoughts are present. Wait..... both anything and nothing are words! Throw them both away. It can be a bit like that, notice, gone, notice, gone...eventually one may go, ah ha, and see the way out. It really is a fascinating exercise to pursue. What does it have to do with Buddhism? It is the path to liberation. It is the core of meditation, mindfulness, nirvana, whatever one calls it. It is the experience of that, and of myself, as it is under what one is normally paying attention to which is the verbalizations.

Ram Dass sometimes referred to it as "Yum Yum!"

Seems to me anybody who is interested in what it is like can see for themselves. Just be here now without letting ones attention go into verbalization within. That Buddhist monk and teacher I quoted talks about it. But Buddhism is a belief system made up of individuals. Not every Buddhist will have an interest in non-verbal experience.

Henepola Gunaratana, a Sri Lankan Theravada Buddhist monk, ordained a Buddhist monk at age 12 said, "When we train ourselves by constant practice to stop verbalizing, the brain can experience things as they are."

Readers probably did not catch this, but my quote here from Buddha - SUTTA-NIPATA, VV. 143-152 is about non-verbal experience to me.

But when he has no trafficking with views,
Is virtuous, and has perfected seeing,
And purges greed for sensual desires,
He surely comes no more to any womb.
Buddha - SUTTA-NIPATA, VV. 143-152

No trafficking with views - no relationship with the ideas in our heads, no verbalization present. My interpretation of Buddha's Sutta anyway.

It can be bad, or it can be good, depends how one uses it and what it leads to. That is probably true of everything.

And it can be skillful or non-skillful but this requires Wisdom to know the difference.

Imagination is very much part of Buddhism.

The purpose of Visualization / Imagination is to erase the duality between you and The Buddha.
TNH.

Not saying that is my realization but anything other than the Primordial State is obscured and therefore not how things truly are.