Am I being punished?
 

First of all, I hope I posted this in the right section. Because it's mainly about death and the afterlife but it also involves some stuff regarding past lives and my health at the moment.


Okay so when I was 15, I had this heart disease which could've easily killed me but it didn't. And it took me about 2-3 years to overcome this. But now I'm 23 years old and I'm really ill again. Like I'm in so much pain every single day and this has been going on for a month now. This disease seems to target my muscles and nerves all over my body. The doctors thought of multiple sclerosis but all of my scans and tests were fine. So basically they have no clue what's going on. And it made me wonder, am I somehow being punished? Maybe for being bad in a past life? Maybe this is karma?

I've heard people say that overcoming illnesses makes you stronger and all that. But I don't see how? I had a good life before this. I mean I had friends, I went to uni, did my homework. And now I was forced to cancel all of my upcoming exams, I can't even go out anymore. The only thing I do is sleep as much as I possible can so I don't have to deal with the pain. I feel so desperate that I even prayed to God and asked for advice from any of my spirit guides. I'm a lucid dreamer, so it's easy for me to remember my dreams. But so far, none of my dreams were about my illness. So it looks like I'm not getting any signs.

Or could this illness be a spiritual sign to let me know that it's my time to go and to end it all? I know I can hold on for a few more days or maybe a few weeks but not months or even the rest of my life. The pain just seems to get worse as days go by. :(

I just want some answers as to why this is happening to me. Because I know a lot of you guys know much more than me when it comes to life and the afterlife.

Hello BringMeTheHorizon.

:hug2: I extend love and light to you, my friend.

You are not being punished by anyone outside of you. Yes, we all have karma, for karma is simply the interplay between cause and effect, yet it is not about punishment. In truth, when we worry excessively, this is a form of "unconscious" self-punishment.

In your extreme situation, concerning yourself with a question such as "Am I being punished?" is not a very helpful action. That is, the more you intellectualize your situation, the more it brings discomfort, because the intellectual thought process--when not placed under the supervision of higher consciousness (the "Higher Self")--creates stress (mental/emotional/physical stress).

In other words, if you began affirming within yourself something like,

"My main objective now is to make the best of my current situation, through making myself as comfortable as possible. I will be easier on myself. The past really doesn't matter, for my true focus is in the here and now. I will let my actions be guided by love, as best as I can,"

then such an attitude would be less stressful than where you are currently focused. It would be an attitude that is more conducive to promoting well-being on all levels. You may actually use lucid dreaming to help in healing yourself. This too is a tool that you have that you may use to promote healing. You could, for example, while lucid in a dream, use this as a platform to contact your Higher Self, spirit guides, as well as manifest a more healthy body.

You could use lucid dreaming to confront and heal an issue. Quite simply, you can use it to promote well-being for yourself, mentally, emotionally and physically.

The real reason why your situation is happening to you is simply because you have some debilitating beliefs (some unhealthy thought patterns) that are in alignment with physical pain. That is the core of it. It is not really about past karma or past actions, it is about your CURRENT psychological state, which does indeed affect the body.

I suggest not thinking too much about the details of your situation and the details of your past, as best as you can. You really want well-being, this is certain. Well-being is not about receiving intellectual answers so that you can feel better, it is about FIRST allowing oneself to ease up, allowing oneself to focus more on appreciating the life that one has. True clarity is about allowing oneself to feel joy. Your core problem is that you are not really appreciating yourself nor your life experience enough. There are people who have gone through more "hell" than you, and even more physical pain, who have managed to discover some degree of inner peace within themselves. This is a fact.

Therefore, I suggest that you see these words that I am offering you here as not what is really being offered: You are being offered love, compassion and an opportunity to connect deeper with the Life Force within you. That is really what I am offering you here, not an intellectual answer. It is a reminder to look more at the bright side of your life as a whole.

You receive signs all the time! It is just that you think that a sign must come in a certain form, or something spectacular. Well, what about a sunny day? Is that not a sign, a symbol of love and hope? There are endless signs, yet you must learn to stop rejecting them.

All experiences make the soul stronger, this is certain.

Best Wishes, I extend you. :hug3:

As far as I know, physical illness can even precede a spiritual transformation, and plenty of people who had deep spiritual insight were very ill when they were young (*), so in my opinion there is no reason to assume that illness is a punishment.

(*) I'm sorry but no names come to mind right now, perhaps other members can fill in. I tried googling, and some pages were reflecting my assumption that there can be a relation between spiritual transformation and (unexplained) physical illness.

I have some additional thoughts that you may find helpful:

That you physically survived heart disease at age 15 can be seen by you as empowering, if you so choose, and this can be used as incentive to feel more positive about your current situation.

Although there is much about the body/mind connection that modern medical science doesn't account for, for in truth it is still a baby science, there are still some specialists in the overall healthcare field that can be of great assistance to you, in particular those who are open to unconventional approaches that have worked for others who have been in a similar situation as yourself.

In addition to any medicines you may be taking, keeping the body hydrated would be helpful, if you are not already doing so, as this also helps to reduce discomfort and pain in the body, as well as oxygenating the body fairly often, through deep breathing exercises. Much human dis-ease is related to a lack of proper oxygenation (although this is not the root cause).

In all cases of muscle and nerve conditions, there is also mental/emotional tension involved. This is true in all cases, even when a condition has been medically diagnosed. You have perhaps heard of medical cases where the patient has had--or has developed--such a strong religious or spiritual faith that they applied their metaphysical beliefs to their situations and had spectacular results, even when medical science may not have seemed to have worked well for them.

In many of these cases it is noted that the reduction of psychological stress is a "key factor." (It is more than just a key factor, however, since there can be no true cure for any condition without psychological well-being also being present.) Therefore, whatever traditional approaches you may be taking, and whatever medical advice and treatment you may receive, keep in mind as best as you can the great importance of your psychological well-being as well.

I myself have had a condition (not diagnosed) of sore muscles throughout my body that has flared up on a number of conditions. I have no primary physician nor medical insurance, by the way. However, due to developing some strong self-healing beliefs over the years, I was able--and am able--to alter the condition/situation through first not allowing worry and fear to prevent me from having clear perception. In addition to noticing and acknowledging inner tensions and a negative thought pattern of feeling stagnant, on many occasions I have used a very simple self-healing visualization where I imagined White Light pouring into my spine from all directions, building up in my spine and then releasing out into all areas of my body.

My friend, I tell you, using this very simple visualization has been highly effective for reducing pain, increasing my energy levels and giving me a stronger immune system, as well as promoting well-being in general, mental/emotional/physical. However, the efficacy of such tools as visualization and affirmation is such that we receive the highest results the more we are in tune with the flow of energy in the physical body. This is where deep breathing exercises can be very helpful, or simply remembering to take a few deep breaths now and then.

Everything is energy, and energy is really consciousness, and with this understanding one can perform many miracles of love, when one allows oneself to be guided by the force of Divine Love that is within.

Although this is the "Death & The Afterlife" forum, I felt it more appropriate to address what I felt was more practical to the here-and-now experience that you are having. I do not recommend considering "ending it all" (as you had mentioned this in your post), for this would not solve anything in itself. Suicide is a type of karma that perpetuates cowardice, guilt, a victim mindset and it can sometimes greatly slow down spiritual growth, depending upon the person's beliefs and level of maturity, and also how the person reacts to his/her own suicide in the spirit realms.

I wish you well, BringMeTheHorizon.

The reality (in my eyes) is both harsh and a relief. What is happening to you has nothing to do with karma or past lives and there may not be any reason for it at all because life can be completely pointless, not to mention unfair and cruel. But at the same time that also means that you aren't being punished for anything. It's just bad luck I suppose. Some useless idiots who live like parasites and spend their entire lives causing misery to others may live up to a hundred years old, so ask yourself if karma exists why aren't they being punished, but why are you? Because there simply is no such thing as karma. But about the afterlife nothing can be said by any of us who haven't had a NDE yet. Many NDE's and afterlife stories share contradictions so it's pretty much impossible to know what happens after death.

That being said, I wish you the best dude.

I'm sorry to hear that you had heart disease at 15. Thats tough, and thats a long time to struggle with it.

When people say that struggling with something makes them stronger they don't mean when they are in the middle of struggling with it. They mean later, after they've gotten through it. You are in pain. Its not time for you to be feeling or doing anything but the basics in taking care of yourself right now. I would advise you to find out what is causing the problem as soon as you can and also let your parents (if they are not clear on it) and the doctors know that you are in a lot of pain. Pain wears on people. Especially the pain you are talking about. From my point of view reading what you wrote it would be a good idea to get it in control as soon as you can, however they best advise that.

I don't know why you are going through what you are. I don't know why I went through what I did. I do know that I was watching a woman ask a guru one time why her child committed suicide. She said to him "was it something I did wrong? Was it something I should have seen?" He said to her, "you will never be able to understand the answer from where you are looking at it." I'm not sure if what I'm saying is making sense or not - but what I mean is that there are a lot of things that could be said right now, but right now, I'm reading that you feel really terribly bad, I guess what I mean is that sometimes we aren't in the place to understand, it doesn't mean we will always be there-

I will tell you for sure that so much will make sense that does not right now. and maybe I am totally not helping one bit. If I could tell you my life-

the illness is not a spiritual sign to let go and to end it all.

I do not believe life works that way.

Can you reach out to a councellor? More doctors?

Hang in there for now. If I could give advice, keep on pushing to find out what is wrong so you can get back getting healthier. You deserve to be healthy and happy. Don't give up.
Take good care of you in the meantime, make sure to eat well, keep your body as strong as you can, sleep well.
Wishing you the best, Marie

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I came across this very inspiring video, and I think it you will find it helpful (it's about hypnosis, the influence of the mind on the healing process, and about the relationship between spirituality and disease)

https://youtu.be/7j87HelFMoQ?list=PL...IK-n6wrIzr&t=3

BringMeTheHorizon, I urge you to skip through the argumentative posts and concentrate on getting better physically and mentally. In your case, my recommendation would be to see a good hypnotist, who can help you with your pain problems.

You are certainly not being punished. The Universe gives us freedom to choose, however. So it is all too easy to make wrong choices during our time here. We also have to deal with the harsh realities of the uncertainty and unpredictability of this physical world.

My suggestion would be for you to find a good hypnotist, who could firstly help you with your physical pain issues. It doesn't matter whether they are caused by physical or mental issues, or both, in any event s/he could help you in relieving the symptoms. If you do some research, you will see that even major hospital operations have been done under deep hypnosis without anaesthetic.

As for the cause of your problems, that can be dealt with also by hypnosis, but preferably after you are out of physical pain. Yes, logic might seem to dictate that the cause should be dealt with before the symptom, but it will be difficult for you to concentrate on finding any cause whilst in pain. Hence my suggestion.

Every best wish to you! Get well soon! Feel free to contact me by PM if you feel the need.

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Really sorry for your predicament!

You wrote you're a lucid dreamer. To get the answers you need, it's better to actively ask direct questions, instead of passively waiting for signs.

During your next lucid dream / astral projection, launch a direct question (e.g. "what is causing this (specific) pain?", or "who can tell me why I'm sick now?", etc.), and pay attention to the first word that comes immediately into your mind, without rationalizing neither what you get, nor what you believe you should get.

You should succeed from the first try, then ponder on it until it makes sense to you.

If you don't succeed you can try again next time, maybe you weren't "deep" enough, or maybe at this point in your life you aren't ripe to be told more. Try to ask your question in a different way, so that you can receive a very short answer.

Good luck, and good health!

That sounds like very good advice, BringMeTheHorizon. Physical pain brings anyone right down. It is extremely difficult to focus on anything whilst enduring body pain. My kindest wishes to you.

I don't know if you are being punished, and if you are...I would put my best bet that it is you unconsciously doing this. However, I wonder if you have some nervous system issues from your heart disease that were doormat, or stem from depression, or just in general. I'm just going to throw out my opinion, however revelant or not. I'm not a doctor.

I do think there is a correleation between ones physical body and their spirit/and or soul.

If you are suffering from depression, worry, nervousness, etc....it could very well overstimulate, and even cause nerve tension and nerve pain. I notice quite often that I get nerve pain....and it causes me to have muscle pain too. Sometimes it's so extreme, that I try to lay in the bathtub, or take pain killers. Sometimes I just cry...it gets that bad.

I only know of one other person, who has similiar issues as mine....and she was diagnosed with fibromyalgia.

I do think there is a link between the heart and nervous system. They are directly related and affect each other. That doesn't mean that your heart is directly responsible for your problems....it could be that your nervous system is being affected more so...which would also cause muscle pain since your nerves run right along side your muscular system.

I notice mine gets worse when it's real humid, right before it rains. I can often tell when, if, and how bad a storm is going to be by the pain I experience before it actually gets here. I also germracing thoughts at this time.

While I'm not sure if your experiencing the exact same thing, or similiar....it could be on a much more higher scale. I would address any depression, anxiety, worry with a professional. From there I would assess any nervous system issues....your doctor can get you set up with a neurologist. Just to see what they have to say.

Each doctor specializes in different parts of the body....so a Pulmonary Cardiologist wouldn't catch a nervous system issue. An I wouldn't stop looking for help, because doctors can make you believe it's in your head, or think their job is done...because you didn't press the issue with them. Unfortunantly, most patients don't know better...and so they don't.

I'm getting the feeling it's your nervous system you need to get checked out...and how it's affecting your muscular system....which might lead back to some of your hearts condition...or your heart disease when you were younger, might have caused some other issues that were not caught and doormat at that time.

My advice would is to go back to your doctor, and then ask for a referral out to see a Neurological Specialist. Let them know everything you have told us....a neurologist would know better what to check(than a cardiologist) with what you are describing here. Especially if your heart disease is in check, and their not seeing anything wrong there.

Some things you can do to help your mind heal your pain for the moment is...take epsom salt baths, meditation, pray, light inscence, put on some headphones, go to YouTube or your fav. Music channel and listen to uplifting music, prayers, mediations. Your job, and only job at this time is to seek out a professional....but is to bring your vibrational frequency up...your job is to focus positively to happy, healing, healthy thoughts.

Because everything starts with the mind and thoughts. Everything.

Pay attention to the weather....is it humid, raining a lot, etc? The pain usually subsides after it rains, and is worst right before. Pay close attention to when the pain is the worst. Get a referral from your doctor if he or she can't address it. Don't let it go....press them until they find out what is causing this pain.

I can relate to what you feel, for me....it's the worst kind of pain. I've broken bones, and not had that kind of pain. Nervous system pain....is the worst! It feels like somebody close to you has just died....it's the kind of pain the engulfs you when you are grieving heavily....except their is no reason for it. Heavy depression, stress, worry, anxiety also might be at the root of this. So make sure you see your regular doctor first to address those issues....then ask for a referral out to see a specialist.

Good luck and God bless.

P.S.....mine has gotten better since I moved to the west. The air is more dry here, and not as many thunderstorms or humidity. I use to live in the Midwest, and South...where the humidity was horrible. It wreaked havoc on my nervous system...I thought of dying all the time. It was that bad. Now it's only once in awhile.

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Reward/Punishment Is In The Light & Important Nutritional Information
 

Hello All...

I come from the perspective of being a metaphysical teacher and spiritual medium of many years, and also a lay nutritionist.

Corporeal existence is inherently painful, unstable, and dangerous. Generally speaking, punishment and reward are not to be found in our bodies but after we return to the Primary Reality of Spirit; when we expand our consciousness (to the extent of our spiritual evolution) with the non-living Light of God.

So don't feel that you are being punished. Living a spiritual life in a body is considered by The Light to be heroic - which you will feel when you return to the Other Side.

I have experience in the vitamin industry, the education given thereof (online courses), and abundant personal experience. I am going to give you some very specific information.

Cardiac and muscular disorders are largely treated (and also prevented) with the right supplements, as well as a healthy diet. Horrendous diseases are often caused from a massive vitamin deficiency with possible genetic causes as well. Granted, we cannot offset the Second Law of Thermodynamics, that of entropy (i.e., that the energy of the universe is ultimately geared to run down) but we can definitely delay our physical decline a great deal.

First off, seek professional help. DO NOT go to a Doctor of Integrative Medicine. Instead, go to a Naturopathic Doctor who will actually prescribe the right supplements following an examination. He or she will confirm much of what I am espousing.

GMO stands for genetically modified organism. Only consume Non-GMO and Organic foods; if it doesn't have an Organic or Non-GMO label: avoid it completely. We are constantly being poisoned by GMO foods that contain cancer-causing chemicals and weird genetic manipulations. Monsanto produces GMO corn commonly found in supermarkets that has been found to cause rampant tumors in mice.

Read labels meticulously. If you find ingredients like monosodium glutamate (MSG), sodium benzoate, and other harmful preservatives, do not consume that product. At one of the healthfood stores I worked at, the father of the assistant manger had died of cancer. Before he passed, he had a big tumor in his neck. When they analyzed what was in the tumor they found that it contained sodium benzoate.

So here's my hypothesis:

When the body cannot rid itself of harmful chemicals and preservatives, it builds a storage container called a tumor. :icon_eek:

Avoid beer and hard liquor but feel free to indulge in red wine (not white) in moderation. It has been found that red wine contains polyphenols that are good for the heart and increase longevity. I like to indulge in a good Sangria - like the kind they sell inexpensively at Whole Foods Market.

As to supplements, I suggest looking into the following:

(Google Vitacost and also Swanson Vitamins for discount prices.)

1. Upscale/Molecularly Distilled Fish Oil. Essential for heart, brain, eye, joint, muscle, and neurological health, and also a strong anti-inflammatory.

DO NOT use the brand called Nature Made, as it is low quality. Instead, go with brands like Life Extension, Nordic Naturals, and Carlton. Avoid Krill Oil; it is overrated and not as effective as upscale fish oil. Whenever you look at a fish oil product, always check to see if the label has a breakdown of the EPA and the DHA. If it does not, it is an inferior fish oil product! Recent studies point to all heart problems stemming from inflammation. EPA is your heart vitamin, as it serves as a strong anti-inflammatory for all your muscles, joints, etc. It also promotes skin health. DHA is for your brain, eyes, and neurological health.

Go with the suggested dosage on the label.

2. Vitamin D3 Mini Gels (never tablets). Inexpensive. Vitamin D3 (better than regular Vitamin D) significantly reduces the risk of getting influenza and boosts the immune system. It also works in conjunction with magnesium and calcium for the heart, bones and muscles in the body. Additionally, it is a natural anti-depressant and reduces the risk of cancer (e.g., lung cancer). It enables calcium to be absorbed correctly and efficiently. Go with between 2,000 and 5,000 I.U. a day.

3. Ubiquinol Co-Enzyme Q-10. It boosts the immune system and is excellent for heart and gum health. Just one a day. Ubiquinol is the most effective form of Co-Q10 and it costs more. Start with a low dosage, e.g., 100 mgs.

4. Magnesium in vegetarian capsules. Inexpensive. Also important for heart health and it reduces stress and inflammation. Also works wonders when one has a muscle cramp - like getting rid of it immediately. It works in conjunction with calcium for heart health, muscle health, with myriad other functions in the body. Go with the suggested dosage on the label.

5. Schiff Super Calcium. Inexpensive. For the teeth, bones, and heart (the body uses calcium to regulate the heartbeat). A natural stress reducer that works in conjunction with magnesium for heart health, muscle health, with myriad other functions in the body. Go with the suggested dosage on the label.

Many ailments attributed to aging are prevented from a daily intake of Calcium, D3, Fish Oil, Mangosteen and Magnesium!

6. Futurebiotics Antioxidant Superfood. Inexpensive. The main ingredient is Mangosteen. This is the best Mangosteen supplement in pill form that I have found. Solaray has their own version but it is less potent. Avoid caffeine as it lessens the effectiveness of Mangosteen. Avoid taking more than one at a time and not more than three a day - which is in accordance with the suggested dosage on the label.

Mangosteen is called the Queen of Fruits because of its immense nutritional properties. Mangosteen has 200 plus benefits and one chiropractic physician espouses that it strengthens every organ in the body. For example, it serves to balance blood pressure, balance blood sugar, prevent periodontal disease, prevent cancer, is a strong antioxidant, is a strong anti-inflammatory, naturally and safely raises libido (testosterone) levels (anti-aging), and is also anti-fatigue and anti-obesity. I have also noticed that it shortens recovery time between work outs - a confirmation from a recent article in a muscle building magazine which cited a recent study about that finding. But perhaps the most important benefit is that it is a natural mood enhancer. Never take more than one capsule at a time and limit your intake to three a day, keeping in mind that it has a cumulative effect on one's body and emotions.

Here I quote the conclusions about Garcinia Mangostana (Mangosteen) that were conducted by the National Institutes of Health (NIH):

"This fruit is an abundant source of xanthones...and is largely responsible for its biological activities including anti-cancer activity. Herein we describe the anti-cancer activity and mechanisms of mangosteen...against breast cancer and prostate cancer....Further work is required to understand its potential for health promotion and potential drug discovery for prostate and breast cancer chemoprevention."

"The anticarcinogenic properties of garcinol appear to be moderated via its antioxidative, anti-inflammatory, antiangiogenic, and proapoptotic activities. In addition, garcinol displays effective epigenetic influence by inhibiting histone acetyltransferases (HAT 300) and by possible posttranscriptional modulation by mi RNA profiles involved in carcinogenesis. In vitro as well as some in vivo studies have shown the potential of this compound against several cancers types including breast, colon, pancreatic, and leukemia. Although this is a promising molecule in terms of its anticancer properties, investigations in relevant animal models, and subsequent human trials are warranted in order to fully appreciate and confirm its chemopreventative and/or therapeutic potential."

7. Extra Virgin Coconut Oil (capsules - not cooking oil). According to a study cited in Life Extension Magazine, coconut oil not only improves cognitive function but it is also being used to treat mild forms of Alzheimer's Disease - which they now also refer to as Type 3 Diabetes due to the sugar component. Coconut oil is also an anti-inflammatory, serves to improve digestive as well as cardiovascular health, and is naturally slimming.

8. Moringa Leaf Powder. One of the most potent multivitamins in existence. The World Health Organization (WHO) has gone to impoverished villages and planted Moringa trees so that the native population could harvest the leaves and boost their immune systems and overall nutritional levels. When working at The Vitamin Shoppe I also learned that it also treats Lyme Disease. Always go with the Organic version.

Don't forget to see a Naturopathic Doctor!

If you live in the Washington, DC area I can recommend one.

Cheers!

I can totally understand that you would perceived all the pain and suffering you are enduring as punishment for past misdeeds. It's difficult to live with so much pain and we naturally want to point at something, blame something for all our suffering. I've had my share of pain, physical and emotional and it can create a lot of confusion about our self and our worth. But you are not being punished for past sins. Our soul doesn't perceive anything that we have done in the past as a sin. That is a human perception. Everything we have ever done or experienced in this life or another is simply a learning experience. Some good some bad but none of it wrong. The idea that you have sinned in the past could be partly the source of your pain. But whatever is the source, what I have learned is that pain is merely a signal that something within us has not been addressed and is looking for attention.

Our human self gets caught up in the whole story of being human and what society says our life is supposed to look like and what we are supposed to be doing with our lives but sometimes our soul has other agendas, not because we are less deserving than others or are being punished for past sins. Mainly because the issues we struggle to heal within us have basically gotten us to a point of being stuck unable to move forward until they have been confronted and healed. so though I can't say why you are in pain or what your soul had in store for you this life I so suspect it isn't to merely cause you suffering. Your soul chose a very difficult life, that is for sure, but the main goal is to heal the things that cause you the pain.

I would not necessarily discount your dreams as not being helpful. The content of the dreams may be pointing to the source of the pain even if they aren't directly giving you answers to why you have pain. I would keep trying to work with the dreams since you seem to have a good access to lucid dreaming. Maybe try and ask to be shown what you need to know to heal this situation. I know for my pain I had to work through a lot of layers to get to the root of it all so not all my questions were answered directly or immediately but I did get access to what I needed to know at the time. I suspect when we aren't given the answers we are looking for we may need more information first so I would myself, just keep asking for help and guidance and look at everything that came through because we never know what might shed light on things for us.

In any event, I personally see all of life as symbolic, not just dream content. The heart is related to love and unhealed issues in this area are generally focused on self love. This could indicate an issue with how you relate to yourself. Maybe some underlying self hatred or feeling unloved. Muscles are related to strength and power. They help us move about the world. so this issue may be robbing you of standing up for yourself or being able to move about the world. So it is very possible, despite your human goals that you have set for your life, your soul may be looking to work on other things. Now here is the thing. It is also possible that your life lessons are intertwined with other people. Sometimes we take on difficult lives of suffering so as to be of assistance to others in their life lessons and nothing more. Regardless, what is happening isn't because you are being punished. Your soul definitely has some challenging plans this life but it isn't because you deserve any of it. It is a sign that you are strong enough to handle it. It may not feel that way to you but you are.

I do hope that you can get to the source of your pain and get a diagnosis for your illness. I send you love and support. :hug3:

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Avadar, that's amazing info you have!

I'm not a doctor, but would like to give you more things to try, in addition to the advice which others have posted here.

I empathise with you so much -- I had a headache for 34 years. Extremely hard to deal with. Had other chronic conditions that came and went over the years too. Some I had to figure out psychically what was wrong, some not.

I think Colorado mentioned fibromyalgia -- symptoms of widespread pain in the muscles and nerves. My mom had that. When I started getting it too, my mom said it matched her symptoms. I've never been diagnosed by a doctor for that, but my body would heat up and hurt really bad all over.

Sylvia Brown (a psychic who's transitioned to the other side), once told someone who she was giving a psychic reading to, that for fibromyalgia eat a high protein diet.

High protein, of course, is meat, chicken (I'm not sure if fish will do it). I experimented and ate a lot of beef and chicken. It worked. The pain went away. Though a high protein diet isn't good for your body long term, I still do it anyway because it takes away the pain. Now, when the pain comes once in a blue moon, it's always because I've forgotten to eat a lot of meat that day.

I don't want to stop you from going to a doctor, but if it sounds like something you want to try out for a few days at least -- the size/portion of meat I eat is about the equivalent of a double-burger for lunch and dinner (total is 2 double-burgers per day). Sometimes more, sometimes less. It's a lot of meat, but it keeps the pain away. And of course it's good to eat a balanced diet, you know like including salad (I read that salad cleanses the blood).

Also, you might want to get tested for Lyme Disease.

Reiki energy might be something you could look into too, for the pain. If you're interested there's probably a Reiki practitioner nearby you, and if you feel comfortable talking with him/her over the phone, you might like to make an appointment to get some Reiki treatments.

If you like the Reiki treatments, you could take a class where you'll get 4 attunements to Reiki. Those attunements gives you Reiki for the rest of your life. You don't have to study hard or anything to get the attunements. You just sit there and the Reiki Master (and angels) will place the Reiki energy into your hand chakras. You really don't have to do anything -- though it's good to learn how to use it -- I'm just saying you don't have to go through a ton of studying.

Some Reiki Masters teach very involved ways to give Reiki treatments. Some aren't as involved. But if you're not feeling good, all you really have to do is put your palms anywhere on your body, keep them there, and after an hour, Reiki will have spread through your whole body. Example, I'll put my palms on my chest in a comfortable position. After an hour, I know Reiki's gotten through my whole body.

There are also medical intuitives that might be able to help. They could give intuitive readings for you. It's always good if you can get a recommendation for any of these alternatives, because for psychic readings, you can get someone who's great, or not. I've wasted a lot of money on the ones who are "not." But have also had some great readings.

You could also keep asking whoever you feel comfortable with, like your Guardian Angel or your spirit guides and teachers, for dreams to show you how to heal yourself, and ask them to make sure you remember all the details of the dream when you wake up.

Please hang in there!

Health Tips & Advanced Radiance Conflicting With Reiki Energies
 

Hi Klaatu24!

I am not seriously ill at present. Just some relatively minor issues for my 56 years, and I am not on any medication whatsoever.

Thanks. :smile:

Before she passed, I heard through a Spiritualist Church up in New York State, that I briefly visited, that she tended not to treat her clients very well - along with extravagant fees. Some not too nice things were said about her.

Regardless, Sylvia did once say something very significant on television:

Most people on the Other Side are not devoted to The Light.

In all my years of metaphysical investigation, I have found this to be a very important spiritual truth.

I remember learning that, especially as one gets older, protein should be part of every meal. I would say that the protein, as in meat and chicken, would have to be hormone free, e.g., Organic. There are also a number of vegetarian alternatives, e.g., soy. But men have to limit their intake of soy, as too much of it can be unhealthy.
I agree. :wink:

On a related note, found online...

Parsley and cilantro work together to help detox our bodies and purge any aluminum, mercury, nickel or lead in our bloodstream and organs.

A number of places online espouse that Moringa Leaf powder treats Lyme Disease. I recall relaying that information to a customer when I worked at a health food store years ago. I have often used Moringa Leaf, even recently, as a multivitamin and to boost the immune system.

I never had a tick on me for twenty-four hours, which can lead to Lyme Disease. Its been many years since I even had a tick on me at all. Minor spider and other insect bites are the only thing, none of which have proved to be serious.

As we age, fatigue and brain fog become more important issues, both of which I treat effectively with supplements, eating right when I can, and exercise.
I actually use a form of Qigong (Chi-Gong) energy healing. And the palming you describe is a good method also for relaxing and nurturing the eyes.

Back in 1998 I went to an introductory seminar on Reiki/Seichem in Vienna, Virginia. It was conducted by two women. I went with two older women, one of which had her nephew with her. Afterwards I learned that the nephew, while in attendance, had a vision of me fighting evil with a Star Wars light saber. This proved to be good symbolism.

Purportedly, a Japanese man decades ago wanted to emulate the energy healing of Jesus. So he went on a vision quest and eventually channeled the symbols which became the foundation of Reiki energy healing. Those energies had and have the characteristic yellow energy, which reflects the plane they come from, the fourth in the well-known seven plane/heaven paradigm.

Jesus/Issa/Yuz Asaf channeled a very large, fourth plane, yellow-energy discarnate community or Group Entity. These spirits, combined in The Light, granted him his various Gifts of the Spirit which were more powerful than that of the other prophets and sorcerers of his day.

Back then, I was a very strong proponent of Yuz Asaf/Jesus/Issa because I was led (along with many others) by that same yellow-energy Group Entity into believing that Yuz Asaf was the Son of God. In truth, he was just an over-inflated prophet who was made to appear divine by the Gifts of the Spirit he channeled. I learned the truth in The Light after being turned in by the Jews to the Romans, then eventually beheaded. For centuries I lived with the humiliation of unwittingly promoting a false god. Today I preach a much more accurate spiritual paradigm, called Solist Mysticism.

I am the soul of Paul of Tarsus (sic).

Since 1981 I have been emulating the approach of The Original Creator - who has yet to come (just as the Deists espouse) - that of Heart Chakra Radiance. The whole point of using HCR is that one can evolve to the point of being able to produce telekinesis and energy healing - better than any fourth or fifth plane Group Entity - on an individual basis when one is ascended into The Light.

All these years later, I have still yet to ascend and actualize my abilities in The Light, but I still work on HCR regularly regardless.

(Click on the link in my signature for more.)

So there I was at that Reiki seminar in 1998, the antithesis of the group think mindset of that yellow-energy Reiki Group Entity. They saw that my aura and energy were much different, they knew what I represented, and consequently astrally attacked. Having had much experience with astral attacks from Group Entities, I immediately knew what was happening and decided to leave the seminar early, which was a wise move.

Stemming back centuries, the yellow energies and I simply don't get along. However, I have channeled and worked with the violet energies of the smaller number of fifth plane Group Entities. They are very good at energy healing as well. :smile:

The medical intuitive suggestion is a good one. If you can give a reference for one on the East Coast, preferably in the Virginia-Maryland-Washington DC area, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
As a spiritual medium of many years, I do this regularly.

Thanks for all your advice. It is of benefit to many, not just to me.

Dear BringMeTheHorizon
First “end it all? ", it is not what happens, because you know that after the death of our body (which is only a garment for our spirit), your spirit will continue its long evolutionary journey, passing through other tests and learnings.
Know the real cause is not the problem here, you must be sure, you are not alone, God is looking for you. God is truly merciful and just, your suffering has a genuine cause that justify your situation and above all was allowed to happen to you!
After this introduction, we can speculate on you case, repeat speculate a probable cause since only the future will tell YOU the reason for this situation.
Cause from past live, in this item we have 2 possible causes: you made something bad and in order to redeem yourself you asked to come and suffer what you cased to others… don’t think it is your case. Second is you made something bad and you regret what you did but those who suffered from acts seeks for revenge, most probably it your case.
Other issue that supports this is a lack of diagnostics from our medicine for your condition, so is not material your problem, it is spiritual.
Here comes the problem how to treat this spiritual cause. How do you convince your enemy that you are not anymore that person who fought in the past! You must change your behavior, your aptitudes proving that you are no more that old person. You must do charity, must help others, help the poors, do a volunteer job etc… You must replace all defects and vices for virtues… You must pray a lot for this/those spirits asking for forgiveness, telling that you are no longer that person. Prey for your spiritual guide to help you pass through this situation, be patient.
As I told you in the beginning, this could be one cause, but only you will know/fell if this is the real deal.
I would recommend to look after a spiritist center near you for spiritual treatment:
You may find in below link some:
http://www.ssbaltimore.org/spiritist_centers.html
Also study the books from Allan Kardec will help you have a better understanding of your situation.
Good study!

Hi Avadar!

That's interesting about Sylvia Brown -- I hope those were rumors? Maybe not. At least she helped with fibromyalgia info. She did seem kinda mad when giving readings -- but wasn't sure if that was due to focusing hard. That's sad to think about. I really like a lot of her books.

Thanks too for the diet/nutrition info. Sadly, my body doesn't coordinate with soy. I'm definitely going to try the parsley and cilantro for detoxing (have been trying to find foods/herbs for this recently). Moringa Leaf sounds amazing -- I'll definitely try that too!


<< Afterwards I learned that the nephew, while in attendance, had a vision of me fighting evil with a Star Wars light saber. This proved to be good symbolism. >>

What a great vision! I LOVE Star Wars!


<< So there I was at that Reiki seminar in 1998, the antithesis of the group think mindset of that yellow-energy Reiki Group Entity. They saw that my aura and energy were much different, they knew what I represented, and consequently astrally attacked. Having had much experience with astral attacks from Group Entities, I immediately knew what was happening and decided to leave the seminar early, which was a wise move. >>

Gosh, I've never heard that before. Sorry you went through that. :icon_frown:


<< The medical intuitive suggestion is a good one. If you can give a reference for one on the East Coast, preferably in the Virginia-Maryland-Washington DC area, I would appreciate it. Thanks. >>

I don't know any, but might know "someone who knows someone." I'll PM you, ok?

Thanks again for your very interesting post.

Hi Klaatu24!

Regarding Sylvia Browne, that information came from a Spiritualist minister who knew someone who had a bad experience surrounding that psychic.

PM me your e-mail address and I will provide you with a list of 'tried and true' supplements.

<< Afterwards I learned that the nephew, while in attendance, had a vision of me fighting evil with a Star Wars light saber. This proved to be good symbolism. >>

As do I.

<< So there I was at that Reiki seminar in 1998, the antithesis of the group think mindset of that yellow-energy Reiki Group Entity. They saw that my aura and energy were much different, they knew what I represented, and consequently astrally attacked. Having had much experience with astral attacks from Group Entities, I immediately knew what was happening and decided to leave the seminar early, which was a wise move. >>

It was more revealing than traumatizing and is a great, true story to share.

<< The medical intuitive suggestion is a good one. If you can give a reference for one on the East Coast, preferably in the Virginia-Maryland-Washington DC area, I would appreciate it. Thanks. >>

The suggestion you made for a medical intuitive in your PM will be followed up on. Thanks.
You're most welcome!

Hey Avadar!

<< Regarding Sylvia Browne, that information came from a Spiritualist minister who knew someone who had a bad experience surrounding that psychic. >>

Gosh, sure seems true. :icon_frown: At least I'll always be grateful for her words about taking the pain away from fibromyalgia.


[Re: Reiki encounter] << It was more revealing than traumatizing and is a great, true story to share. >>

Gosh, I'm really so sorry that happened to you.


<< The suggestion you made for a medical intuitive in your PM will be followed up on. Thanks. >>

You're so welcome! I hope she helps!

Have fun!

<< I read that salad cleanses the blood. >>


Oops -- meant to say: ...lettuce cleanses the blood.

Sorry about that! (Years ago someone said her salads consisted of tomatoes and cucumbers. So, just wanted to correct the words, above.)

Crime and Karma??
 

Crime and Punishment is one interpretation of Karma. Another (which I prefer) is more like trial and error or the school of hard knocks. We incarnate to learn and gain wisdom through direct experience, unfortunately, that direct experience is often difficult and painful. If often feels like life is dumping on me for no particular reason, but eventually I see the value in the experiences I have gone through. Perhaps the deeper bits of wisdom require more than one life to acquire and come with a higher price tag.

As far as the "good life" goes, we all say we want it, but when we get it, it is not long before we get bored with it. Life seems to need a plot with adversity to push against. Many people will say the point of life is to be happy... I am not so sure... perhaps once we find happiness, life has no point and we stop with the masochism.

I've tried so many different things but none of them worked. I went to a physiotherapist for like two months, I've tried taking fish oil, calcium tablets, vitamins, I even tried to eat more healthy but for the past 9 months I've been in pain every single day. :( Also my GP tried giving me antidepressants cause it could supposedly help with muscle pains, but it made everything so much worse. Like I was nauseous all the time, I had constant panic attacks and it even felt like I was losing my mind?

I also went to a fortune teller/psychic but regarding my illness he said that there's nothing wrong with my muscles, he just said that I need to get more exercise done and I'll be fine.

And now I'm seeing an osteopath/chiropractor. According to him I have a blockage in my pelvis, which explains the pain I feel in my lower back/groin. But after two appointments there's still no improvement. But that's not my only problem, cause I get pains in my fingers, hands, elbows, knees, legs and feet? And to be fair, I don't feel comfortable around him so maybe I should just stop going.

So I really don't know what more I can do. Maybe I'm overthinking things but I got this muscle pain around the same time my stepmum got pregnant. At first it didn't even cross my mind but my stepmum has had a bleeding in her brain so her baby was born two months early and she's been in a coma for a few weeks. Could this be somewhat related or is it just a complete coincidence? The baby is doing fine though but the doctors told us they still have no idea how bad the bleeding damaged her brain.

Idk I just hate the fact that I'm so ill, because all I wanna do is just go back to uni, be there for my dad and my little brother. But I can't. And now my dad has to worry about me as well and he's already worried enough about his wife, his kid and his own company? So he doesn't need any more of this.

I'm sorry for this long rant but I'm just so desperate. Sometimes the pain gets so bad in my lower back/groin, it makes me want to end it all. But I know I can't because my dad wouldn't be able to cope with another disaster. I don't know if it's just anxiety but sometimes I feel like I have a deadly disease like cancer, cause it really does feel like my body is giving up on me and I'm trapped here. I just don't get it. I see people who are 90 years old walking around, riding their bike without having any problems. And I'm only 23 years old and all I do is lay in bed most of the time because moving hurts.

Isn't there a way I could get a sign or information on what I should do from spirit guides in the afterlife?

You are not alone I to am in constant pain and it does drag down.i have got osteoarthritis fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis, with chronic fatigue .i don't see it as punishment its just one of those things,
Have you thought of going to see a spiritual healer? counseling would also help. there is a saying that pain is caused by blocked emotions . this is where the counselor would come in
I have been told of people going through this .would benefit from regression
some unfinished buisness from the past, i have had regression done but not for pain. these are just some things you can try.
I wish you the best

Namaste

I hate giving advice any more because my advice sounds so foolish... but the trick is to interact with it and learn about it, if you want some relief from something like this. And at first the only way you are going to know how to interact with it is to consciously will it to get worse. Then you watch what happens and learn as you go.

But that path is long and not for the faint of heart, you won't immediately get relief and on that path it may be hard to find any experience that others would value. Because of that you probably won't even want to be on it long enough to eke out the rewards. But still, it is a path that can be taken.

BTW it isn't a punishment in and of itself... in some sense it may be a blessing. You are getting a chance here to see something many others will never get. What makes it so punishing is the distance you are from other people and the kind of lives people are 'supposed' to live.

I can offer you healing through connections with the universe. And when you're healed all you do is thanking God.
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