All my astral projections are with a man
 

Every single astral projection I've ever had involves lying in my bed and then a man comes in and either spoons me or embraces me in some way. Sometimes I'll see him, sometimes I won't. This most recent one involved him walking around my room while I was AP-ing and had sleep paralysis. He laughed at something and I sternly told him, "It's not funny." Then he came around to my side of the bed and caressed my face. I ended up hugging his arm to my chest. None of it's scary or anything... It's just very bizarre. And I wake up the next day kind of lost in my thoughts about it, because it feels very real. I feel the warmth of his skin and everything. There was like a while string of these astral projections a few months ago and I got very angry with him because he just comes and goes like it's nothing, but the process it takes to get me to AP is a huge pain in the neck for me. I get very irritable about it. I don't know...

I tried to talk to him about it once because he admitted he likes to mess with me and joke around, but he's also sensitive and hates being called out on it. He's just using me to get his kicks it seems and it's kind of annoying. Like, why get into my bed and do intimate things like cuddle with me and hold my hand? It's ridiculous. I feel like I live a double life. I've got my real life where I have zero interest in sharing my bed and then I've got this dream/meditation life where this guy acts like the awkward shy kid who doesn't know how to treat girls so he just kind of insults them. I get super real with him about it and he gets all pouty and clingy. He lied to me so many times that I stopped believing anything he says and he'll respond by dragging me into astral and doing something like caressing my face or holding my hand... like that at all makes up for the times he's been rude to me.

I just needed to vent. I don't know how to feel about it. I'm not a super warm, cuddly person. I'm kind of affection-avoidant because it makes me feel smothered but he's been showing up for like two years so we've formed some kind of bond, if you could call it that. He used to cause me a lot of problems, but it seems like I've found a balance in the past two to three months with how to deal with the unseen versus the seen world. He's not a negative entity, and if he was, I must've become stronger or something because nothing out there seems to affect me physically or psychically. I went through a really tough time in the past year with negative entities and worked really hard on myself to the point where I don't get attacked anymore and my life is going really well. So, I don't know who or what he is... If anyone has suggestions or ideas, let me know. Thanks for reading. :smile:

Honestly this is always the same story. It starts out seeming harmless and almost very well intended like a very loving and sensual thing, but over time the beings behind these experiences begin to reveal their truth - I think they can't help but do it. It's almost like they want us to know what they are and accept it. And they do it in layers like an onion because if they revealed it all at once we would want nothing to do with them. But it's sort of like indoctrination and programming. Basically they slowly push the boundaries of what you view as acceptable a very little each time until eventually they are full-blown raping you against your will. I know that sounds harsh and I probably sound like a fear monger but it is the truth and they have been doing it already anyways while you're not conscious to your astral body. The reason he gets irritated when you question him is because questioning him will reveal the truth. Free-will plays a huge role in this and so if he lies to you about some things it removes the law of free-will. Do not get me wrong because at some point in time they will completely destroy what you think is your free-will if this goes on long enough and they will certainly lie to you. But there is a weird fine line that they seem to teeter on between you allowing this to happen and them doing what they want. And by questioning him you are using your free-will to find out the hidden truth and that angers them. They also get irritated because they know that will likely lead to you not asking anymore questions. Either that or they will refuse to answer your questions, but their silence is your answer. They really do have us Humans and our way of thinking down to a science and they can play us like a finely tuned instrument to the point where we think we're the ones in control, when in reality it's quite the opposite and we're just playing into their hands. Although they do lack some key emotions such as real compassion toward others, love, honesty, and so forth although their emulations of them can be done very believably over single and shorter experiences. But over time you can't help but notice how hollow those emotions are with them - they are extremely fake.

If you want to see the truth about this being keep asking questions even when he's irritated and his actions and words will show you the truth that has been hiding underneath what once seemed like mischievous playfulness. Or when you can see him say to yourself something along the lines of "God show me the entire truth that hides behind the illusions." You could even ask him to show you what he really looks like. He has obviously developed a taste for you and as part of the indoctrination they will usually show you a less-human form of themselves more so based in reality than the Human illusions. Although they probably won't show you their true image but they will change their color of skin, or their eyes, or something along those lines. And then your gut will tell you what you're dealing with. Which is an incubus, vampire, djinn, demonic spirit, reptilian, call them whatever you want. They are likely all one in the same. These are the only type of beings involved in this activity and it always starts out friendly and sensual and caring. Where it ends is somewhere you don't want to go so you need to resist it now as strongly as you can. It's going to lead to more suffering and a huge backlash from him because you've been giving yourself to him willingly for some time, but the deeper you go the worse it gets. So back out while you still can... That is my deepest advice speaking from personal experience.

This is interesting, what you say about manipulating the idea of free will, because I've found it is very much about control and distraction. Over the course of two years, I've had many experiences - positive and negative. The more questions one asks, the more irritated they become. I have seen/experienced it all, to be honest. I've been astrally raped, psychically attacked, and so on and so on. At one point, I rebelled against it so much that he said he was trying to see how much stress he could place on me before I'd go insane, but when you think of it like this: that it is just a projection - It's a simulated experience and the lies are there just for the purpose of control - then it changes the game and they lose power.

When I was newer to all of this, it would physically and emotionally effect me. I experienced fatigue, depression, anxiety. The attacks caused a mild case of PTSD. So, I worked hard on making myself stronger, healing, opening back up again, letting my emotional walls I'd built up back down, and went through huge changes. I found that the more honest I was with myself and the more I focused on myself, the less power any of the lies had on me. The less it controlled me. The astral projections still occur but they don't disrupt my waking life at this point. He got so resentful when I made this turning point, this shift in inner strength. He would give me the finger and mope about it, try to resurrect old lies and false beliefs, but I just kept saying, "No, I know you're lying. It's not going to work." And then I'd shift my thoughts and be completely fine. Still, he lingers, telling me he's staying with me because I'm "magic". I've gone through the worst of it. He says now that some people just never break and that I'm strong. I once considered he was evil, then I thought maybe he was crazy. Now, I just think he's observing me and my progress, taking an opportunity every once in awhile to try and mess with my head again. I believe that I am stronger than him, though. Ultimately, it's thoughts and beliefs that determine the level of control, in my opinion. I've gained so much by not listening to him or feeding into it.

My guess is your avoidance of real-life affection has caused your sub-conscious to animate this inner aspect of yourself that appears to you in semi-conscious states. Essentially it's to fill a void that you've been consciously neglecting.

Another possibility is this person is not a construct of yours but an astral teacher. If that is the case he's teaching you about compassion and intimacy through these experiences. Not all teachers are written and memory teachers, some teach through giving experiences and letting people create their own lessons.

Your experiences are par on with mine. Everything you said is 100% true in my experience as well. Even down to the way they act/react to certain changes and situations. As you mentioned about it being simulated experiences that is very true. They will create these huge experiences where in one they will be the good guy, in another the bad guy, etc. First they will play the good guy mostly or only play the bad guy when they take another form. They take multiple forms but will build our trust in the main form they take by simulating experiences of us being chased, attacked, assaulted, etc. and then they will come and save the day. Keep in mind they are the sick individuals who planned it all and the other beings attacking us are their friends. But that helps bring down our emotional and mental barriers and let them in and once in that is when things slowly start to change. But it's weird because it's not necessarily a constant progression sometimes they will be extremely friendly and then one random night they will be horrible. If you've studied MK Ultra at all this is actually a huge tactic they use in it which is not by coincidence. The people behind those types of government secret dealings hold heavy occult knowledge and know how strong the link is between our physical dimension and the spiritual dimensions and how they both affect one another. That is why they are constantly brainwashing us with movies, tv shows, books, etc. that are actually based in the spiritual dimensions where beings can fly, use magic, have superpowers, there are mystical creatures, etc. Almost all of this stuff is based in the spiritual dimensions and exists in them in one form or another. Although they brainwash us into thinking it's harmless and fun which it isn't necessarily. Because they want us to emulate it into our dreams which is essentially black magic and the left-hand path, they are tricking us through it all into becoming like these dark-beings willingly.

They always compliment us and try and make us feel like we're special but honestly all we are to them is energy, thoughts, and astral fluids. They use us for all of those mostly while we're non-conscious but the thoughts they prefer while we're conscious and actively thinking. Have you ever noticed how these beings are constantly holding onto us? How they are constantly touching your hands and feet? It's because our hands and feet are like outlets for our thoughts, experiences, etc. and by touching us and hands and feet specifically they are plugging into and can directly access them and take great pleasure out of it. They also drain us of astral fluids which are also encoded with all of those as well.

A astral teacher that rapes you? That is an interesting notion, I wonder what they're teaching? You can be as philosophical as you want about it but it's really much more simple than you'd think. Some of our non-physical bodies exist in dimensions these beings have access to and they feed off of our energy, thoughts, and astral fluids and take great pleasure out of it. Sure it's not as magical and appealing as your theory but unfortunately it is the truth. And in the process they want to make us become more like them by simulating experiences that make us feel like powerful magicians, Man-gods, superheroes, etc. Because even if you're using astral magic to defend yourself it is black magic and the left-hand path. Any magic that creates something is black magic and that is coming from a black magician who knows what he is talking about (not me).

I've experienced this a few times but I always viewed him as a wandering spirit trying to eat my energy..only he realized their was an attraction so he decides to tap it instead. It's probably not healthy at all but it feels so much better than fighting them

Sometimes I'm able to win fairly easily by just ignoring him. And sometimes I lose my cool and end up beating him up in my imagination. Violence isn't the answer, but considering what he is, I think my morals can be suspended if it means I'm being harmed or harassed, you know? Fighting back kind of staves him off until the next round. It's still annoying to deal with, though.

Rape is a physical act. I'm not sure astral rape is even a thing, but nice job being offended by hypothetical things.

magical? MAGICAL? appealing? Just stop dude. 1. I wasn't even addressing you. 2. I don't want to converse with you.

The sensation of unwanted sexual contact on an astral level can be just as intense as the act in physical reality. This has happened to me, so it is a real thing. I just don't think many people would want to admit that. I've told people and some will say, "Oh, it's all in your head" or "Your own subconscious is attacking you. You're fine" so I don't usually talk about it. But... It does happen, unfortunately.

So now anything that appears real in our imagination is a real thing?


I just can't talk with you. sorry.

If only closed minds came with closed mouths.

Then your mind would stay closed forever. Be careful what you wish for

How does that make any sense? Lol, you're the one who dismisses my experience as false and imagined. You're unwilling to consider the idea that it's not in my imagination and it's coming from outside of myself? You must have it ALL figured out, then - the way the unseen world operates and everything! Wow, good for you!

I suggested an alternate possibility. You drew the other conclusions about why I did but you could have asked and avoided blowing up.

Wow... I never blew up, I was just being sarcastic. Looks like someone's projecting, considering that's kind of hypocritical to say after you first negated anything Astral Explorer had to add to the conversation, inferring that his viewpoint was invalid because it didn't align with your beliefs. And now you're doing the same with not only my viewpoint, but also my personal experiences. I find that pretty immature. It was supposed to be a discussion, not an opportunity to play Devil's advocate. You tried to help, I guess, but I disagree with what you had to say. Sorry. Let's just agree to disagree. :wink:

Oh so you blew up and repressed it?

Looks like the both of us can throw around psychology terms in an insulting way!!

This isn't helpful. I created this thread to get other people's advice, and now you're just trolling me. I'd appreciate it if you'd stop.

If anyone else would like to share advice, experiences, I'm open to that.

This is what New Age programmed people do when they don't like your experiences. They act like they can judge your experiences better than you can. And then when that doesn't work they go on a tangent with some unoriginal New Age philosophy that they have been programmed into believing is the only truth. Most of them don't even have enough experience to judge their own experiences let alone others but they read some book, have a couple lucid dreams or projections, and then become experts on everything. And when their philosophy fails they either reject your experiences in fears they will somehow influence theirs, or they look for some ridiculous explanation that fits into their programming. Cause God forbid anyone has a real experience that falls outside of what they've been programmed into believing. All the imaginary walls would come tumbling down and they would realize that false sense of security wasn't real to begin with.

So you see the self-defensive mechanisms coming into play out of nowhere, protecting this belief based on a lack of experience to begin with? Totally agreeing with you. It's not all sunshine and butterflies out there on the astral plane. But that's how it begins, and you're right - You're made to feel special or invincible and protected and told the negative things only happen to people who are "attracting" the same energy frequencies because there "must be something wrong with them". It's not true at all. Over time, if one digs deep enough, one notices what's called "this and that" - negative versus positive interactions. The positive experiences lead you further on, the negative is to confuse you, and they're both forms of control and distraction to prevent you from finding your spiritual truths, your higher mind (however you want to define personal spiritual growth and development). They don't like me because I make waves and I'm outspoken. Honestly, it's a small price to pay in order to be my authentic self at this particular point in my life because I love who I am and wouldn't change for anybody. That is something worth fighting for.

Hello Gaia,

Thank you for opening this thread, I had the same experience that in a span of 3 years there have been so many paranoia but logic and self control really plays a big role to regain oneself.

The role plays, dramas they played were planned to convince the victim by accompanying it with artificial thoughts, feelings and projections.

That is why for 2 years now, I blocked good or bad sensations, thoughts so I will not get affected by them. In my view, the bad are experimenting on us but I am not generalizing because there are really kind hearted ones experienced by other people.


Hello Astral Explorer,

I agree with you, anything like this should be stopped by the victim right away before addiction sets in and becoming a slave of these bad entities.



This is what I thought too.
Do you think the other beings knew that they are participating?
Aren't other beings participating being manipulated or enslaved to do so?

shivatar...I don't quite know how you view "The Astral" ...?
I don't want to assume anything about your views on that. But I will just say that the Astral is a very very tangible place/state/situation.
When on the Astral, you feel things just as you can do physically....sometimes even worse.
Sometimes -depending on what area of the Astral you are in, those things are exceedingly beautiful and fine....but I digress.

The Astral is not the same as "Oh it was all just a dream".
Many years ago, I was raped on the Astral and it was no fun believe me. It was the most horrendous experience of my life. The pain of being electrocuted....well I won't say any more about that because it was just too graphic for these pages.
And let me tell you, it was a very physical pain. And I was fully awake, aware and just about as responsive emotionally as one can get under such circumstances. And that was just the "physical-sensation" side of it. When I came back to body I still felt the pain.

So good for you that you don't 'believe' in it! May God protect you from ever having to believe in it. I hope that continues.

Hi Tobi,

As I was reading your post, I found myself crying, I remembered the worst thing happened to me when I was 4 months pregnant, they pulled my baby out, feeling the pain mentally, emotionally and physically while projecting it and my womb flattened at the time, fighting for my baby, regenerating him everytime and felt was successful and a feeling of relief that time.

Bless you, and my kind thoughts for your complete healing from that experience. It's amazing how tough those little babies can be. My kindest thoughts to him too. I hope he is well and happy. :hug:

Thank you Tobi, my little guy is ok except for speech problem.

We have to be tougher when the going gets tough. I learned things the hard way though people here see us as a role model family but deep inside I was crushed. I can't let my children see that Mommy is faltering, I don't want them to worry so we continue to go on..

I have had experiences, much like yours, involving a male entity. My experience started out as astral. I had no clue what astral projection was, at the time. After waking up, in the middle of the night, I heard a voice say, " I'm going to send a spirit to you. Do you trust me?" After a couple of minutes I saw an entity sort of swoop down from or through the ceiling and end up beside me, on my bed. Something strange was happening and I felt an energy that kept moving up and down my body. I wasn't afraid and I just kept thinking that I was being healed. Later, as I started researching things, I learned about chakras and I now believe my chakras were being cleansed or unblocked.

In my case, after the initial astral contact, I was in telepathic contact with this spirit while awake and I could literally feel his presence, a lot. I did not question things enough and trusted, blindly. Long story, shorter-It resulted in me, quitting a job where I had worked for 13 years, with no notice and donating EVERYTHING I owned, except for the clothes I was wearing and the furniture too big for me to put in my car. I went through a dark night of the soul, for a couple of months, following that. As I came out of it, I got a better job and I am not angry or regretted what happened because it was all part of a spiritual awakening.

Here's my take on my experience, which had a lot of similarities to yours. I believe in spirit guides, now. I feel like it was a spirit guide, who sent the other spirit to me. i believe he sent what or who I needed, to set me free from the materialistic prison that I was living in. I think it was a trickster spirit. I went through hell and I was so mad during my those months following the day I gave everything away, but it led to a more spiritual path and raised level of conscientious and for that, I am thankful, every day!

I have never been very protective of myself and I believe that learning the importance of that, was one of the lessons I was meant to learn during all of that. Another lesson, had to do with following,blindly and getting involved with narcissists. My relationship with the trickster energy could definitely be compared to my relationships with narcissists. Ask yourself if you have any issues, like that.

I have had a few occasions when I have heard or felt that presence again, but I do not engage it, anymore. This started in 2012 and I still have so many questions, but more than anything, I am thankful that I was awakened. The hardest part, for me, is that i can't shake the feeling that it happened for a reason and that there is something that I meant to do. I don't know what, though. Be cautious and protect yourself I don't believe this spirit means harm, but like I said, I have questions and I'm no expert. Just someone who believes what you have written because I have experienced it.

If you want to see the truth about this being keep asking questions even when he's irritated and his actions and words will show you the truth that has been hiding underneath what once seemed like mischievous playfulness.

I'd like to reiterate those who've said to ask questions. It is very revealing. Basically you don't want to work with any being who projects negative emotions - it will not help you evolve and can be harmful. You have worked hard to get where you are, don't let them peck at you and wear down your higher vibrations so they can get in again.

The second thing I'd like to suggest is to be very aware of your frequency, stay away from things, people and electronics which bring your frequency down. Get selfish. Be protective. Set affirmations every day for good things to happen, look around and be Present - see the goodness, the beautiful day, the painted clouds stokes across the shy, the children laughing , the birds singing - drink deeply of it all and Appreciate it - feel gratitude rippling through you. Dance, listen to joyful music - love life, love You loving life.
Feel love for everything you can. This will shift your vibration upwards more so it is harder for him to make contact with you.

Additionally develop a cleansing and purifying routine, keep yourself energetically free of chaotic vibrations, low frequency's and stagnant energy, shield and cut cords regularly. Monitor your thinking, when you notice low frequency thoughts just stop them and replace them with a happier thought. Be vigilant - don't let your mind control you - control it.

You can control who can access you by controlling the frequency/vibration of your life and experiences.
Yours seems to be a Journey of learning to take control of your experience and you are doing well, this being is reminding you though that you are not fully in control yet. So step it up another notch. You got this!

hey can i ask a favor because iv been trying to see my past lfe for some time,could you next time you astral project,look into my past life or at least try to my name is chad id will realy help thanks