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Honza 31-03-2012 07:46 PM

I think Yahveh may be coming back.
 
This is very strange. Life on earth these days is very profane. It is cold and unspiritual. I AM seems to preoccupy everybodies mind. So why do I think that Yahveh is coming back?

Through the gloom and profanity I suddenly keep getting insights into Gods being. Into His purpose and into His compassion. These insights lead me to believe that ALL is God. The earth and the people are an extension of Gods being. They are His creation.

God seems to imply that everything was as it was meant to be. The coldness was intentional because He was away. He went away so that humanity could say I AM. But the limits of I AM have been reached. Any more and it would be dangerous.

So God is coming back to set the balance right. His intention is to slowly integrate all of us back into His self. Which will take many hundreds of years.

Is this all a dream? Or am I sensing something real? I don't know. But it excites me. I dream of Yahveh and His Kingdom. Christ seems like a puppet compared to Him.

Nothing compares to God! Amen.

Animus27 31-03-2012 08:29 PM

Coming back from where? I might be mistaken, but I think many Jews see God as always being with man, it's merely man's behavior that separates him from God.

Xan 31-03-2012 08:56 PM

God "comes back" as we become more aware of God's silent presence, deep within ourselves where it has always been.


Xan

Honza 31-03-2012 11:55 PM

To me it seems as though God is in exile. He has been driven away by the profanity of the earth.

God is gentle and kind and the earth is cold and hostile. This keeps God away.

But He can be strong. He can diminish the fear. It is all in a muddle in my head, but I keep getting the feeling that He is near....

Xan 01-04-2012 12:23 AM

Yes... nearer than your own breath.


Xan

Yamah 02-04-2012 05:20 PM

Honza, you have tapped into a deeper idea than you probably thought you were doing.

In Judaism we have many names for God. Kabbalistically speaking these are all different perceptions of the same Unified Oneness. Practically we can treat the names as separate forces (mitzideinu - from our perspective) even though there is no difference whatsoever (mitzido - from His perspective).

It is written in Kabbalistic texts that when the Jews were exiled a Revach (Rift) was created between the Shechinah (God's imminent presence and one of Her female aspects) and the tetragrammaton (the name you used). The Shechinah remained with us but HaShem became distant and disconnected.

One of the few practical activities that kabbalists engage in is called 'Yichudim' (Unifications), where they attempt to reconsile these two names and speed along the bridging of the rift and the birth of the messianic age.

Nowadays many of the prophecies for the birth of the messianic age, most notably the Jews returning to The Land of Israel, are beginning to be fulfilled... which is coinciding with the elevation of global consciousness.

Amen Selah (Faithfully, to the end of time).

sbjazzman 04-04-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamah
Honza, you have tapped into a deeper idea than you probably thought you were doing.

In Judaism we have many names for God. Kabbalistically speaking these are all different perceptions of the same Unified Oneness. Practically we can treat the names as separate forces (mitzideinu - from our perspective) even though there is no difference whatsoever (mitzido - from His perspective).

It is written in Kabbalistic texts that when the Jews were exiled a Revach (Rift) was created between the Shechinah (God's imminent presence and one of Her female aspects) and the tetragrammaton (the name you used). The Shechinah remained with us but HaShem became distant and disconnected.

One of the few practical activities that kabbalists engage in is called 'Yichudim' (Unifications), where they attempt to reconsile these two names and speed along the bridging of the rift and the birth of the messianic age.

Nowadays many of the prophecies for the birth of the messianic age, most notably the Jews returning to The Land of Israel, are beginning to be fulfilled... which is coinciding with the elevation of global consciousness.

Amen Selah (Faithfully, to the end of time).


I have to disagree Yamah in only that I think it's the Shekinah that's been in exile and is returning now. She represents all the Goddess energy we're encountering. We've all been under Paternal institutions and religions for the last several thousand years. She represents God's Presence in a spiritual way. She is the latter I AM of I Am that I AM imo.

Xan 05-04-2012 12:32 AM

As I see it, the only ones in exile have been us.

God is ever present, Shekinah / HolySpirit is always with us.

We are the ones who ran off into external sensory involvement, small fixed identities and too much thinking.

Letting go of those, we find the divine couldn't possibly come and go but is right here where it's always been.


Xan

Honza 05-04-2012 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Xan
As I see it, the only ones in exile have been us.

God is ever present, Shekinah / HolySpirit is always with us.

We are the ones who ran off into external sensory involvement, small fixed identities and too much thinking.

Letting go of those, we find the divine couldn't possibly come and go but is right here where it's always been.


Xan


However much I'd like to believe that is true I get the horrible feeling that it is not that simple.

Xan 05-04-2012 12:51 AM

Well, Honza, your horrible feeling is wrong... probably from doubt or fear of the unknown. It really is that simple.

Besides, I wouldn't let emotions control me but go ahead and investigate for myself.


Xan

Honza 05-04-2012 01:03 AM

I do plenty of investigating. Too much probably. Which leads to all manner of grisly discoveries. As well as good ones of course.

Xan 05-04-2012 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Honza
I do plenty of investigating. Too much probably. Which leads to all manner of grisly discoveries. As well as good ones of course.


Honza... I'm not talking about investigating by thinking or reading... but in the quiet open space within yourself.


Xan

Honza 05-04-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Xan
Honza... I'm not talking about investigating by thinking or reading... but in the quiet open space within yourself.
Xan


The quiet space within myself seems soooo far away that it would takes ages for me to reach it. Not only that, I'm not sure if trying to reach it is the best thing to do.

krishna 05-04-2012 10:05 AM

Honza,
With respect God is indeed back on earth as an Avatar.
In pure light and truth.
Krishna.

Xan 05-04-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Honza
The quiet space within myself seems soooo far away that it would takes ages for me to reach it. Not only that, I'm not sure if trying to reach it is the best thing to do.


Maybe later some time you'll feel more up to it. :smile:


Xan

Honza 05-04-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by krishna
Honza,
With respect God is indeed back on earth as an Avatar.
In pure light and truth.
Krishna.


Hello,

That is not what I meant. I did not mean an incarnated God. There are plenty of those. I meant a God who could spiritually warm up the whole reality.

The God who is all of us and who is between all of us. You probably don't believe in such a being....

Xan 05-04-2012 06:33 PM

Who or what do you think is keeping the whole reality alive and warm now?


Xan

Dreamer_love 06-04-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan
Who or what do you think is keeping the whole reality alive and warm now?


Xan

You are adonai,

Bow

larty35 07-04-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Honza
Hello,

That is not what I meant. I did not mean an incarnated God. There are plenty of those. I meant a God who could spiritually warm up the whole reality.

The God who is all of us and who is between all of us. You probably don't believe in such a being....



Hello Honza,

What do you believe those incarnated gods are here to do?

Larty

Yamah 07-04-2012 05:06 PM

"I have to disagree Yamah in only that I think it's the Shekinah that's been in exile and is returning now. She represents all the Goddess energy we're encountering. We've all been under Paternal institutions and religions for the last several thousand years. She represents God's Presence in a spiritual way. She is the latter I AM of I Am that I AM imo."

Interesting idea. I'm not quoting my own notions and ideas though, I'm quoting volumes and volumes of kabbalistic literature. Also keep in mind that the 'paternal institutions' were all man-made.

"We are the ones who ran off into external sensory involvement, small fixed identities and too much thinking.
Letting go of those, we find the divine couldn't possibly come and go but is right here where it's always been."
Beautiful words Xan, as always.


"The quiet space within myself seems soooo far away that it would takes ages for me to reach it. Not only that, I'm not sure if trying to reach it is the best thing to do."
In a complicated world, the most complicated thing is finding simplicity. Furthermore, we must walk for miles before realizing that everything was right here all along. The realization cannot occur without the journey and simplicity cannot be reached so easily.

Xan 07-04-2012 05:40 PM

In a complicated world, the most complicated thing is finding simplicity.
Furthermore, we must walk for miles before realizing that everything was right here all along.
The realization cannot occur without the journey and simplicity cannot be reached so easily.


Well said, Yamah.


~ ~

sbjazzman 08-04-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamah
"I have to disagree Yamah in only that I think it's the Shekinah that's been in exile and is returning now. She represents all the Goddess energy we're encountering. We've all been under Paternal institutions and religions for the last several thousand years. She represents God's Presence in a spiritual way. She is the latter I AM of I Am that I AM imo."

Interesting idea. I'm not quoting my own notions and ideas though, I'm quoting volumes and volumes of kabbalistic literature. Also keep in mind that the 'paternal institutions' were all man-made.

"We are the ones who ran off into external sensory involvement, small fixed identities and too much thinking.
Letting go of those, we find the divine couldn't possibly come and go but is right here where it's always been."
Beautiful words Xan, as always.


"The quiet space within myself seems soooo far away that it would takes ages for me to reach it. Not only that, I'm not sure if trying to reach it is the best thing to do."
In a complicated world, the most complicated thing is finding simplicity. Furthermore, we must walk for miles before realizing that everything was right here all along. The realization cannot occur without the journey and simplicity cannot be reached so easily.


My introduction to Kabbalah came personally from this man at a retreat several years ago called "The Return of the Shekinah" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDj2U...eature=related

sbjazzman 08-04-2012 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sbjazzman
My introduction to Kabbalah came personally from this man at a retreat several years called "The Return of the Shekinah" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDj2U...eature=related


More on the Shekinah here http://www.adishakti.org/_/shekinah_..._of_wisdom.htm

""There were different schools of Kabbalah. Some saw the Shekinah as separated from the godhead, in voluntary exile on earth, describing her as a daughter cut off from her mother, and as a widow, until she is able to return to the divine ground, having gathered to herself all the elements or sparks of her light that had been scattered throughout creation during the process of emanation. The blackness of the Shekinah's robe, inherited perhaps from the black robe or veil of Isis (who was also called "The Widow" during her search for Osiris), is the darkness of the mystery that hides the hidden glory of her Light.".....

Xan 08-04-2012 12:41 AM

I find it impossible to conceive that any expression of the divine is really 'cut off' from any other.

That illusion of separation is exclusive to the human mind, which tends to project its limited notions onto pure dimensions of being where they don't exist.

In rediscovering our own divinity this becomes clear.


Xan

sbjazzman 08-04-2012 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan
I find it impossible to conceive that any expression of the divine is really 'cut off' from any other.

That illusion of separation is exclusive to the human mind, which tends to project its limited notions onto pure dimensions of being where they don't exist.

In rediscovering our own divinity this becomes clear.


Xan


We play hide and seek. That's the game we chose.

Xan 08-04-2012 12:57 AM

Yes, that's so. It's we humans who have been hiding from our true nature, not the divine in any form.


Xan

sbjazzman 08-04-2012 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Xan
Yes, that's so. It's we humans who have been hiding from our true nature, not the divine in any form.


Xan


We are in complete agreement.

Yamah 08-04-2012 04:18 AM

Ah, here's the confusion...

When you say 'the shekhinah was exiled' remember that the Jewish People were exiled too... the Shekhinah came with us.

sbjazzman 08-04-2012 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Yamah
Ah, here's the confusion...

When you say 'the shekhinah was exiled' remember that the Jewish People were exiled too... the Shekhinah came with us.


Yes but it was complicated. http://www.uriel.com/knowledge/artic...of%20God.pd f

tone0728 28-09-2012 06:39 PM

I love you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Honza
To me it seems as though God is in exile. He has been driven away by the profanity of the earth.

God is gentle and kind and the earth is cold and hostile. This keeps God away.

But He can be strong. He can diminish the fear. It is all in a muddle in my head, but I keep getting the feeling that He is near....


Do you know the qualities you see in God, are also in you? When you say "But He can be strong. He can diminish the fear." Do you not see that you can be strong, you can diminish the fear. Because God is not just near, God is you. You are in a state of seperation. The earth is not cold and hostile, your heart is. That's what keeps God away from your knowing him. You are projecting your fears into the world you see. A godless, cold, hostile world. Try softening your gaze, look at the world with the kind and gentle eyes that you attribute to God, but that are also in you. Then you may see what God sees and peace will come to your heart. Start by letting go of your dominating judgement of others. It is most true that the way we see others is the way we see ourself. Purposefully seek out the good in the world and it will come to you. But if you purposefully see only hostility it will come to you as well. And your mind will forever trouble your heart. Do not let your heart be troubled by your own mind. Best of luck, love you.

psychoslice 28-09-2012 09:22 PM

It would be great if it was possible for him to come back, then he could fix all the mistakes he made before when he was here lol.

Occultist 29-09-2012 09:58 PM

He wont return until the Temple is rebuilt. It is not yet..

psychoslice 29-09-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Occultist
He wont return until the Temple is rebuilt. It is not yet..

That is just a meterphor, when we build our true inner Being and realize our true Christ Self, this is when the so called God appears, its and inner Awakening, or Enlightenment, it has nothing to do with a future God or Savior coming to rescue us.

Occultist 30-09-2012 01:21 AM

I was meaning that for the people who follow the prophecy
The Third Temple, or Ezekiel's Temple (Hebrew: בית המקדש השלישי‎: Beit ha Mikdash hashalisi), is the future Jewish Holy Temple architecturally described in the Book of Ezekiel, a house of prayer for all people with a sacrificial service. It is noted by Ezekiel as an eternal edifice and permanent dwelling place of the God of Israel on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Currently where the dome of the rock is.
I know about Christianity beliefs also Psych but I wasnt in no way meaning a metaphore but i can see where that might get confusing.
But yes I am fully aware of Christian beliefs on the matter and the various beliefs within the Christian religion itself.
But I personally believe if that is the prophecy about there Temple being built then I have to respect that and agree that it has to be built.

Amilius777 02-10-2012 05:01 PM

I believe in what psycholice is saying but I also believe Christ as a person-Jesus will return. He might reincarnate through the process of birth and such or he may materialize at will. Who knows. He is a Master and knows how to transcend time and space. And on top of it he is God- The Christ. So I don't know what way or mode he is doing it. But I don't believe Jesus is coming back to kill the antichrist and save the physical world. That is just stupid! If there is an antichrist or another Hitler we humans can deal with him and kill him off ourselves before he wreaks the planet. Besides, the level of where Jesus is, he would not come back to kill anyone. This is out of character. But yes psycholice is right. The true Temple is ourselves. Jesus was trying to get his disciples to understand that the Temple they worshiped at was a great vessel and a place to worship God with others but the deeper temple is Man's body and self. And Jesus even predicted that the new temple is Man's own body. The Temple of Jerusalem is destroyed.

I bet once the world has evolved enough to allow the Christ Spirit to enter our being, I think there will be a literal Third Temple in Israel. I think life is synchronization and everything works in a circle. But we shouldn't wait for a physical third Temple to be complete.

I believe the Second Coming is both our attunement to the Christ Spirit, or Holy Ghost- whatever and the return of the personage Jesus Christ as he ushers in a newer and enlightened age. I don't think Jesus is going to return to make a perfect Earth. Such a thing is wrong. Free will and this planet's evolution is up to us. But once in a while God would send a prophet to uplift our energy to the next level. I think Christ's return will be an upliftment to the next level of consciousness, not the perfection of this world. Example- He will come and go and life will go on. People will still celebrate Christmas, people will still fight each other, people will still eat, drink, be merry, divorce, marry, etc but with a high level of consciousness. That is all. And if there is any evil force trying to stop it, we are the ones that can stop it by not allowing it to exist.

Occultist 03-10-2012 05:57 AM

God of the Bible has asked for many wars blessed his children in wars.
jesus himself wrecked a temple that was selling sacrafices and temple needs.
Samson and Galiath-King David and war-Samson killed
About 3000 at the time of his death, Judges 16:30, 1000 with a jawbone of an donkey, Judges 15:15 ...
God blessed him with this strenth to do so.
War-death-plagues is very much a part of the biblical God and or Jesus.

Scattered Sheep 03-05-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honza
This is very strange. Life on earth these days is very profane. It is cold and unspiritual. I AM seems to preoccupy everybodies mind. So why do I think that Yahveh is coming back?

Through the gloom and profanity I suddenly keep getting insights into Gods being. Into His purpose and into His compassion. These insights lead me to believe that ALL is God. The earth and the people are an extension of Gods being. They are His creation.

God seems to imply that everything was as it was meant to be. The coldness was intentional because He was away. He went away so that humanity could say I AM. But the limits of I AM have been reached. Any more and it would be dangerous.

So God is coming back to set the balance right. His intention is to slowly integrate all of us back into His self. Which will take many hundreds of years.

Is this all a dream? Or am I sensing something real? I don't know. But it excites me. I dream of Yahveh and His Kingdom. Christ seems like a puppet compared to Him.

Nothing compares to God! Amen.



Hi, you may be more right than you know, times are much darker than many are aware and a great evil is about to profane the Holy of Holies, keep your eye's open, something is about to happen, indeed YHWH is revealing Himself, again...watch...pray....and look up my friend..Shalom.

Scattered Sheep 21-05-2013 11:32 PM

Here is a good video about YHWH's name http://youtu.be/Im4AsYBjwFk

Honza 18-09-2013 12:51 AM

This feeling of Yahveh coming back has dissipated and been crushed by heavy I AM stomping around. Putting out Gods life. I cannot seem to have faith and life with God without help and so I am contemplating Christ again.

Yamah 18-09-2013 03:13 AM

I'm sorry to hear that, Honza. There are many other ways to reach God than through christ. If you'd like I can recommend a few books that may help you out instead.


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