Your opinions on meeting people from this life in the afterlife
 

The other day I was thinking about some of my exes, specifically a couple of the briefer affairs from 15, 20, even 25 years ago. My dramatic and ultimately tortured involvement with them changed me and the course of my life. I began thinking of friends who have fallen out of my life. I thought about someone who I had the most painful unrequited, years long crush on in my 30s, who nobody has ever measured up to since, and probably never will. I thought of my nan who died 13 years ago. We didn't really get along, but if she were alive now then I'd love her much more than I did when I was younger and more selfish. I thought of my best friend at school, who I've briefly seen once or twice in the 30 years since leaving school, who still comes into my dreams when I'm asleep, as if we're both teenagers again. I liked him a lot and have many happy memories getting upto mischief. I thought of many people from my life who had an effect, or who I was connected with in some meaningful way, all of who have either died, or disappeared.

I then thought how lovely it would be if, when when my body dies, I could meet them all again, on the astral plane, or spirit world, or whatever it is, however it is. The desire from my side is certainly there. I'm not sure if desire to meet is required from both parties once our bodies die.

Which is why I'm interested in peoples opinions on whether we can and do meet people who, though not our most loved ones, though might not have been the ones we are or were most entangled with, we meet them again, somehow, somewhere. There are a few people who, were it not for meeting them, would have meant an entirely different path for me. So in effect they indirectly, but profoundly shaped me, unbeknown to them. This makes them important in my opinion, and I am curious about whether we see them again. And I don't mean in a life review, but an actual conscious meeting of two distinct, agentic, conscious, non-physical entities, who are entirely aware of each other and of the meeting.

This is not about our partners, children, parents, grandparents, lifelong best friend, etc. It's about lost friends, old work colleagues, past crushes and flings, strangers that helped you one time in a moment of need, who you never saw again, but you always remembered, old house-mates you used to drink with and watch films but parted ways when life changed direction, and you wished you'd stayed in touch, a kind neighbour from your childhood who you last saw when you were 10 years old etc, etc.

Michael Newton in his books on life between lives states that we are each part of a Soul group, a number of Souls who have a deep connection, some of whom will incarnate during a particular period and play a part in each other's lives. This may be a short-term or a long-term involvement, and the nature of this involvement is agreed before incarnating. Then after physical death we reconnect with our Soul group and share the lessons learned.

So in regards to your above comment, these people who had a significant effect on your life may well have been part of your Soul group, and you will meet up with them again. And supposedly the after-death reunion is a joyful occasion, like meeting our best friends after a long period of separation.

And if these various people were not part of your Soul group then there is still no reason why you cannot meet them on some astral level if there is some kind of harmonic resonance.

Again from the literature, some people may spend years together on Earth and then have no further contact afterwards. They may be at different stages of development, their interests may be too far apart, there is nothing to attract them to each other in the afterlife. They may be in completely different astral realms. But where there is some kind of connection then time and distance are no obstacle on the astral.

Like you, I sometimes wonder who I will meet again after discarding this body. It is all interesting.

Peace

I am speaking from personal Experiences and from messages I have given to others.
We can reconnect with lost family friends partners etc. if we wish to but we don't have to
I gave a message to a guy once that wanted to know how his wife crossed over thought of his second wife.
She was pleased for him and she thought that his second wife was good for him.
There is no jealousy Hate or bitterness in the spirit world.


Namaste

Thank you for your reply iamthat. I've heard of soul groups before, and am fascinated by the idea.

To quote you:


I wonder if it is still possible to meet them again though.

I also wonder if it would be possible to meet, for example, my favourite poet, who, though clearly not part of my soul group, and having died 40 years ago, feels like a close friend when I read his poetry late at night - it resonates so much. Someone whose writings have brought me much joy, sadness, and epiphanies about life.

I suppose my deeper question is how open is the astral? And what are the possibilities?

Native Spirit, yes, I've often felt that ego is relinquished when entering the spirit world. The man's first wife appears to send blessings from a place of pure and true love. I am whole-heatedly on board with that understanding.

On your first point, I wonder if a desire to meet needs to be mutual. I suppose it does, much like this earthly plane.

I suspect that anything is possible. But as you say in your next post, any desire to meet may need to be mutual. On Earth we may not be able to avoid contact with certain people. The astral realms seemed to be governed by vibrations. Supposedly we find ourselves among others of similar vibrations, and two people of very different vibrations are unlikely to be in the same space.

We also have to consider the possibility that some people we might like to meet have progressed to a level we cannot follow. It seems to be an astral law that those on a higher level can descend to a lower level for particular purposes, but those on a lower level are prevented from accessing higher levels until they are ready.

And there is also the possibility that those we might like to meet have already taken on another human birth.

The whole scheme seems to be quite vast, and we are only given glimpses of all the possibilities.

Peace

Bluto, on the astral plane the possibilities are endless, what you think can instantly manifest, including loved ones, even if they have taken a rebirth their spirit can appear to you while they are sleeping in their new body. They can appear to you as you once knew them to be. Lots of souls travel to the astral plane while their body is sleeping here on Earth.

But otherwise I do feel it has to be mutual. Lessons can be learned while we sleep here on earth, or in the afterlife when we drop our physical body. It is widely believed that we are spirit groups, as iamthat mentioned. In that belief it is said we all agree to meet here on Earth and interact in some way. That group may include our parents, siblings, lovers, etc. But this is all speculation on my part.

A detailed look at Soul Groups, from Sparrow:

https://spiritguidesparrow.wordpress...01/soul-group/

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For those that seldom click onto links...this is so worth it. :smile:

I agree with Starman ---meeting another on the Other Side is a mutual thing...it will happen when both are ready. :)

I feel this in my gut, deeply.
I had a serious talk with God and all that were listening ...that was:
I do not want to be incarnated again with my sister....maybe in a few lifetimes when she learns more. God bless her.
I can't be around 'stuck', stubborn people that don't have ANY interest in growing.
Why bother - let God lead them on their Path to Him.

(She even tosses any self-help books out from friends that want so much to help her...they all love her,
but she is SO stubborn in her beliefs that are mega 'wacky'; making her unhappy is the point.)

Which does raise the question of why we choose to incarnate with such people who will be so closely involved with our lives but with whom we seem to have so little connection.

Is it that we choose our parents for certain reasons which means that we also get the whole family whether we want them or not?

Or is it that these family members still have something to teach us, even if it is only patience!!?

Peace

We've had many past lives together, drawn to the same parents and there is a lot of love...
I need a break from her stubbornness re learning things now.

Or perhaps she needs repeated exposure to your growth and flexibility. Perhaps before each incarnation together you agree on repeated incarnations so she learns something, and one of your main purposes is to impress and coach her, out of soul-love, much in the same way we repeatedly teach our children the same lessons until one day they get it, out of true love. In the next life she might have that ah-ha moment, and your work is done :smile:

Yes, that's what a smart and sane person would say, Bluto...Wish you knew her, tho! LOL! :D

The noted astral traveler Jurgen Ziewe relates how he found his mother in the afterlife on several occasions, and mentioned how she became younger looking and more vivacious with each succeeding visit. When asked about his father, his mother mentioned that he had already taken another life, to experience having a different type of family experience than he had when he was Jurgen's father.

I highly recommend Jurgen's work, he is quite prolific on YouTube, and his books are inspiring and extremely informative. He has rightly been designated as a modern day Emanuel Swedenborg, and he also has a website and FB page featuring his visionary art.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WatsbABALcg

I will listen to J. Ziewe on Buddha At the Gas Pump, thanks :smile:
I found him to be a slow talker ... so if someone gets bored - jump to 1 hr 36....I'd say.

Your opinions on meeting people from this life in the afterlife

I don't know but what I do know is that this is the first (and perhaps only) life I've had with my Mother.

Please don't assume that , because I know full well that sometimes the ones closest to us are with us over and over in each life .
Maybe in different forms but with us regardless
For example, my beautiful auntie and her daughter , my lovely cousin were so very close , but they learnt that in their previous life it was vice versa. Still together , but last time my cousin was the mum and my auntie was the daughter.
Some bonds are just too strong to ever break .
Both are deceased now from this life. My aunt used to visit me often when her daughter was still with us , and I valued her presence ....
But since the un- timely death of my cousin they ALWAYS visit together . It's like it's impossible to seperate them .

No AngelBlue,I know this is true in my case as I remember the whole process.As I returned here from a different Galaxy.(But we are all different).

Oh I see. Sorry, I thought you just assumed !!! Have you written about this ??
Wow ...makes me feel "simple" .

I wrote about it ages ago angelBlue,when I was a master before leaving this site and coming back:biggrin: ,you may have to search through previous posts.
Here's a snifter:biggrin: I was forceps delivery and when i felt the forceps either side of my head, I pictured a Green being with a long triangular head, rectangular body and thin legs.
See, that's what I imagined folk to look like.A triangular head,rectangle shaped body and thin green legs.I'm not asking anyone to believe me but the main fact is I KNOW it's true.:smile:

PS............I know you used to be Elfin and you have passed an exit point.:biggrin:

God you've just described me :icon_eek:
But being serious I don't doubt you for one second .
If you say it happened and this is your experience then I ( or anyone ) can never dispute that.
Oh gosh... I'll try and trawl through !!!!! And yes, I DO of course remember you from before.
( And yes me Elfin LOL...
Those were the days when I thought you were too sensible to be bothered with me ! Heehee )

:icon_eek: Me,sensible,that's the first I've heard of it.:biggrin:

Thanks to modern medicine,you're still with us:wink:

LOL, but you DID seem very sensible and "proper" and that you would flick away the likes of me like an annoying fly ( I know I CAN be annoying )

Haha, as for me there's no medicine , modern or otherwise.
No cure , no treatment , but hey ho that's life ( or death , depends what way you look at it LOL..)...

You know the old saying.............*Where there's life, there's hope*.:smile:

Very true :hug3:

I suppose if it's been meaningful then you'll meet again.
But the examples you gave are not always meaningful, nor are feelings of a crush or a work relationship necessarily mutual.

Jurgen Ziewe has also created a couple of 30 minute binaural beats meditation tracks - Deep Meditation and Far Countries. Worth using if you are into brainwave entrainment.

https://www.multidimensionalman.com/...ral_Beats.html

Ah, I forgot to mention that these downloads are available free.

Peace

Thank you! That is kind. A note to the interested: If I may, I suggest the accompanying descriptions and explanations of the meditation on the website be avoided until after one has done the meditation download at least once, before projecting conceptual frameworks for the experience induced by the material.

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WOW! Thank you very much for sharing this good quality binaural beat meditation. I haven't meditated to these sounds for about 10 months, and you've just sparked my interest again. This one is particularly powerful and helpful. Thanks again.

Glad you liked it. I hadn't used these for a while (I've been experimenting with other products (iAwake and Sacred Acoustics)) but having mentioned these I listened to them this morning. They are rather good.

Peace