Filling the void
 

From a human perspective, we fill up in so many ways of life, especially during times where the void encroaches us, in some way. When the void tells us we are alone, we seek out company of others, friends, family or a companion to help relieve that feeling.

We distract ourselves and fill up with stuff that is regulated from an outside perspective. We miss a vital part of understanding ourselves without any of that in place.


For many, the void is often a place that is feared. To enter fully into the void of yourself, it requires you to be present with all of you. With everything you feel, with everything that arises in you as you experience yourself in this way. In many ways, I liken the void as the place where you no longer control what seeks to be known. You allow without control, without distraction or external projections to move you away from you.

Life itself in our choices to participate and indulge, often reflects back to us, our ability to sit fully with ourselves or not. Our humanness decides through those choices, how long, how far and how much we indulge, the balance within ourselves will resolve itself and consistently call you back to yourself, in any way, your not willing to know you and listen to your inner processors.

‘Know thyself’ - if you are here, existing as a whole being, regardless of your ignorance, your lack or your avoidance, you cannot dismiss any part of you. All of you matters. All of you counts. All of you is living in this body experiencing itself.

One beautiful aspect of your being/my being is compassionate loving kindness. When we are hard on ourselves, fight with ourselves or life around us, when we push too hard and just don’t know the way to be any different, your compassionate self is the gift to be kind and gentle, loving and supportive to you. To forgive and let go. To let yourself move deep into the void, where emptiness gives rise to freedom, to loving kindness and compassionate living.

The void becomes your friend.

The movements from this place no longer misses, no longer fills up with unnecessary baggage, but allows for the complimentary unified energies to be grounded in you, for you, for all life.

When you acknowledge the void as your best friend, when you sit in a place where everything of you is allowed to be, the void expands into the beautiful gift you are to you.

No longer do you project from a place of lack, no longer do you try to fill up thus connection that us you, but you honour all of you into a deeply grounded state of being.

People often say, they feel a calling. A calling that often projects outwardly into the world. When you omit to become the call, to listen to the call, as the call to yourself, you’ll will find yourself in those choices, in all those creations you use to evade the true calling.

Coming home to yourself, coming home to the void is often met with a meeting of sorts. Where you and reality come face to face. Where you have given too much to the external and neglected the inner calling and what that means as you. Like all new beginnings, the destruction of such times, can be very traumatic, a deep struggle depending on your balance within. Depending upon how much of you you’ve listened too.

Entering the void is recognition that your entering the unknown. A place that this life experience, slowly but surely awakens you to see.

Letting go of everything you believe you are, letting go of everything you think you need to be doing, letting go of everything and simply noticing, becoming aware of what your inner world is calling you back too notice.

When we think our way into being, our mind dominating the totality of our body, the mind avoiding the fullness of its own relationship.

Our being in its own time and process will eventually call you back to stop thinking yourself into being. Stop the mental notes you tell yourself everyday.

It will tell you, to stop, drop into your being and breathe.

What you do from there, will become a whole new way of living and a whole new story you’ll tell yourself.

If 2023 becomes your year of deeper contemplation and less avoidance, embrace the call.

Embrace it as you.

What follows, is what leads.. ❤️

I like this idea.

For me the Void, or emptyness, is what confronts me when I am feeling really bored. Sometimes I distract myself with games, the internet or other activities. But when I am feeling more positive I stay with the boredom and let it teach me it's message.

I tell myself that boredom is good. That boredom is a pathway to enlightenment. That boredom is my friend. Thai I love my boredom.

I thank the boredom, the Void, and I find that there is a bliss within the boredom.

Very true, the void is a beautiful place!

For those interested the Kabbalah presents the concept of tzimtzum. The world that we know exists in the void that God created within himself. Everything in this void is a distraction. In this sense we need to escape the void in order to enter the fullness of God. I have no real wish to expound on this but anyone can Google tzimtzum………

I did google it.
I can see how this works now.

The void as I see it, once escaped creates your world/reality. When you re enter the void without that creation your in fact creating a new world/new story each and every time. I think for those who are not content with their current story or life, it’s an opportunity to acknowledge themselves more complete by entering this space of self.

Being present without any story or identified idea of yourself allows for transcendence.

I found this little snippet

https://www.chabad.org/library/artic...h/Tsimtsum.htm
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Thank You for sharing that! My journey has taken me to many places, I wish I had came here a long time ago. Love you all!

Your just full of love, just love, I’m glad your feeling connected here.

Thanks charly for your input.
In stillness and quiet contemplation, I think it’s an opportunity to really notice things you’ve patterned in your mind/body and simply don’t give a second thought about.

Some of our deeper ingrained patterns are not recognisable until we stop..

If you can be present in that state of emptiness as I like to call it, what arises through that kind of practice is the ability to really notice things you might just skim over, not be supported by differently.

One of my new awareness’s is using the sun as my healing bath at six am. then eating my first meal around eight am sitting in the sun. I’ve always a avoided the sunlight because I am fair, but a little nudge in my centre guided me to look at the sunlight with new eyes.

JustBe,

So glad of your effort to examine tzimtzum…..and that was certainly a good and informative website that you provide. Knowledge of this concept has made a lasting impression for me….thanks..

You're welcome.

That sounds very good.

Re Justbe #5

Hey thanks for that article re Tsimtsum. Never heard of that before.

It’s funny that I chose to read that just at this time as I was sitting here feeling totally bored!!!!!!

I really really wish I could do what you do. The Void sounds wonderful.

I am able to control my thoughts, or rather I’ve learnt to just watch them come and go but I have never entered this state. How I envy you.

Any tips lol

I think knowing who I am lessened the void… I just have the void or amnesia… being pushed into existence rather than coming in to existence on my own terms..

Wether it’s a straight line to being that risen monster- and taking the person that’s responsible for creating me to his/her tether..

But my dreams came to regardless of being created.. I was created again in a chance that saw me having everything I asked at deaths door given to me as a token of this life’s facts.. while my dreams were facts - I still experienced twin flames, soulmates and it would be a long time before reunion would occur,I know just had the void of pain&death : it could be overcome but it would cost me greatly—- I had to think like I was(in hindsight it was a fact) I was spending money on new body’s to live through reincarnation and it was very expensive- manifesting images and living a new life just to die and be in a days work(which was the hardest part of reincarnation,the hard work and patience that death took)

But throughout meditation and belonging in a way I couldn’t lose anything: I came to the conclusion that : that void of pain hardwork and patience… I would be gaining self control and control of the situation, at least a muster of its strength…

Reincarnation is the hardest part about living.. you must die , death follows you until it’s time.. but it’s all existing in this void.. I mean you could use a algorithm to determine how your going to die but be prepared for the majority of deaths and stand in unison with the soul..

The utter hardwork and ignorance of that compared to death it’s self- is evident that a reward or silver lining will be achieved..

So I’m thankful for the void. In it is victory’s.. one’s I could never determine without it’s clutch in my life..

Lol to the tips.

Here’s ten dollars, is that enough? Hehe

All jokes aside.

What’s your biggest issue with going deeper into the mind body?

Don’t know. Will have to think about that one.

JustBe,

This is an excellent departure place for us. I return to the concept of tzimtzum. That postulates that in order to create the world that we know, in which we move and have our being, that God created a void WITHIN himself to allow this creation because nothing can exist outside of God. The proof of this is that we have been given free will. The fact that it is within God means that it has definite boundaries….it is finite. Finite in both resources and life….finite life means death. Our tool for survival in this world is the ego….our pursuit of resources to live guarantees the death of both resources and fellow human beings. The ego can be understood as the thing that separates from God.

In order to reconnect with our Creator reverse engineering is required on our part. This is where the void truly becomes our friend. In essence we must create a void within ourselves to escape this void that we live in. It is a paradox…..the ego is our friend in this void that we live in(allowing us to survive) but is our enemy in escaping this finite world. There are remedies that allow us to escape this seemingly Catch 22 situation. Meditation is a means for us to create this void of escape. It is the being ‘still’ that allows us to both know God and even more importantly be known by God. In other words it allows and invites God to work on us. Think ‘born again’……being born of the Spirit. In my own experience I consider a meditation successful whenever I have lost all sense of time…..this absence of time makes you realize that you had an experience of eternity…..where time no longer exists.

Thank you molearner, that’s very interesting to read and makes perfect sense.

It reminds me of those differences of expression where some say, god works through them. Spontaneous nudges and prompts, not coming from you, but through you.

JustBe,

Thanks for your words of affirmation…..I think of our spontaneous tears of love which come most unexpectedly. Our spirits are touched and the tears flow unbidden. As I have said elsewhere we are but conduits for love whose original source is God. Other things that give life have their source in God…..namely the air that we breathe….the blood that flows thru our veins….the rain that brings life…and ultimately the Spirit. Yes, God works through us in ways that we fail to acknowledge at times……

Hearing the lyrics…..Knocking on Heaven’s Door by Bob Dylan…..my memory is basically the chorus. But the opening verse has spiritual meaning for me:

Mama, take this badge off of me
I can’t use it any more
It’s gettin’ dark, too dark to see
I feel like I’m knockin’ on heaven’s door

The ‘badge’ can be the ego ? All that we have sensed or been distracted by ?
The ‘dark’=the void we were speaking about ?
Heaven’s door….our introduction to enlightenment, etc ?
Everyone can fill in the blanks….interpret it as you will….:)

The impetus for what I just shared was from the website that JustMe shared about tsimtsum where it spoke of creating a parable for the student…..it is worth going back to read that again……:)

knocking on heavens door... trying to get to the void, or the dark as you also called it? If we are knocking on it it seems like we haven't found the way to open it...

when i read about tzimtzum it didn't seem to me from the description like god 'created' a space so much as he 'removed' what was already there so there would be room for something else... well that is the way i view it. it seems to me like a subtle yet important distinction.

FWIW the sabbath seems to me to be more of the same, commanded not to do the things we do on all the other days. And don't even move about very much if i recall correctly. Rather than be continuing to 'do' things nonstop...

Theoretically speaking I think darkness is also an absence of light, rather than a presence of the dark... the void you guys are talking about would be more of the same... not a 'presence' of a void but instead an 'absence' of something else...

i wonder sometimes if I'm not supposed to 'get' that the way home isn't through obtaining some nifty neeto thing that gets me home... but rather in doing a variation of this tzimtzum thing and giving up things I've got and maybe even cherish so that I can quit encouraging myself to be everywhere but home? Certainly a case could be made for that through the life and teachings of christ, at least I think so.

FallingLeaves,

Thanks for the response…..:). The subtle distinction does not work for me. This is my reasoning: If God is infinite, space is not a problem….to remove something to create space would seem to imply that God’s realm is finite rather than infinite. Tzimtzum supposes that the space is necessary to allow free will. God’s kingdom is not of this world…..”may thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”. In heaven God’s will is done..there can be no competing wills…:)

Back to the song as parable: ‘Mama’ could just as easily be a metaphor for God. Your mother ushers you into this world and the lyrics are imploring Mama to usher the writer out of this world. Mother has an accepted connotation of love and protector. We can ascribe these same attributes to God.

im honestly not sure how what I said has anything to do with the topic of whether or not god is limited, but if you want to buy into the limitation that it does have fun!

FallingLeaves,

It revolves around your intended meaning of ‘removed’…..either to move to a different place or to obliterate part of creation ? The concept represents the creation of a void within Himself since nothing can exist outside of God. This void is a universe only partly connected to God. Different universes have different rules.

we know from physics that simple motion from one 'place' to another 'place' isn't the only possibility... for example in the general case putting pressure on something makes it 'contract' and cooling something does as well... which would be a way to make a 'space' where none existed before. and from a very practical standpoint, in our 'material' portion of reality you can't put one thing in a place when another thing already exists there... and god did say as above so below... And then there are black holes... unfortunately I don't know much beyond basic physics but it does beg the question as to what else there might be that I don't know about? And even, what might be beyond physics, in the realm of God?

Meanwhile I have enough experience with meditation to be questioning the notion that creating new things is all there is to god's creation...

Perhaps science will answer your questions……..

Molearner, I love what you said about “mama”. I think God and mama go together much better and seems more relevant than always saying “HE”.

I also like Miss H term “the power”.

just because people are involved in vainglorious misrepresentations of reality, doesn't mean they have nothing at all to offer.

A nice view. I say here why such space is needed.

Say, There is only Infinite God's Love everywhere. But, suddenly there arises a "Free will to be away from such Love". As the God's Love is Infinitely everywhere, there is a need of "space" where one can be "free from such Love as a free will to play around". And so this "space" (Kingdom of Thought) is manifested as a "finite" to fulfill our "infinite dreams free from God's Love".

Where there is God's Love Infinite (Kingdom of Heaven), there cannot be a Free will to be free from such Love (Kingdom of Thought) and vice versa.

And so, Ending of Thought is "Kingdom of Heaven everywhere".

O K,

This is precisely right. A clarifying extension of logic which remains available to us in this world……thanks….:)