Heart-Science
 

Science was always meant to be highly benevolent, bringing great benefit to humanity, but in the 20th century it became increasingly heartless and materialistic. To fulfill its true purpose, science needs to be wedded to spirituality in a balanced partnership, thus creating Heart-Science.
In order to progress benevolently, a civilisation needs to have 3 sciences working together in balance and harmony:

Spiritual science,
Social science,
Material science.

When Spiritual science and Social science (human relationships) work in harmony with Material science, the latter becomes an expression of Love, thus becoming Heart-Science. Albert Einstein once said that the missing link in science was the energy of Love.
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I very much agree with these ideas, Explorer21. There are a number of people today who are advancing the understanding of how consciousness affects the world. These, in my mind, are the true pioneers, scientists and serious thinkers who research the potentials within human consciousness.

There is a long list of such scientists, though most every one of them has been argued with and ignored by the old paradigm of science which just builds on what is already known. Much of what science knows is limited by the kind of minds that apply it.

Some scientists I find cutting edge are Gregg Braden and Nassim Haramein. Both have shown profound power in the way we may view reality by looking at things in new patterns of unity. Our unified heartfield is the center of all human consciousness and it is connected by infinite space to the center of the galaxy. :icon_flower:

Hello Explorer 21. On the same sort of track that you suggest-- Objective analysis, observation etc. are great tools for understanding from a viewpoint separated from that which is being analysed, observed etc. but in the case of analysis, observation of that of which the observer is an inseparable part, from within the whole, does this present a limitation to the ability of objective analysis to be comprehensive in such a case? If so, then some way of understanding from within the whole may be useful in augmenting the traditional scientific method.

Understanding within the whole is a lot like empathy, which in turn is part of loving--Imo. petex

Thanks, Starflower. I greatly admire the way Nassim Haramein communicates cosmic concepts, expanding scientific knowledge beyond the narrow bounds of rigid orthodoxy. He represents the future of science because he puts Heart and Soul into it. I love what you say about the unified heartfield of humanity.

We are unity, thanks for your thoughtful and interesting comments. I like what you said about understanding within the whole.
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THE INFECTION OF SCIENCE

In Robert Shapiro's book SHINING THE LIGHT 4, it says, "Most people today believe that the Nazis were defeated in World War 2 by the Allied forces, but in point of fact, you don't defeat an idea. You might defeat the forces who hold that idea, but the problem was that the National Socialists (Nazis) had taken polarized negative science (science without heart) to the extreme. They had done things in the camps that developed such advanced knowledge (from a scientific point of view) that many of these scientists who were a portion of the Nazi party were coveted by various governments (at least their work was coveted). The Nazi party was able to perpetuate its ideas and ideals through the creation of this technology.

It was the Nazi party that began and really insidiously infected science as you know it today with the polarization toward heartlessness. Look back; read scientific documents around the turn of the century (the beginning of the 20th century). Without exception, they were full of heart and regarded science as something that would uplift humankind and save it from whatever horrible affliction that that particular branch of science was interested in. It was actually something quite uplifting and fairly well connected with the Creator (God) even then. It had lots of heart.

It was really the Nazis who managed to create a branch of science that was heartless, perpetuated after the war because of their influence. Because of the pursuit of expanding the intellect (especially after WW2), this heartless science has affected many other things----not the least of which is selling technology. Whatever you're selling---whether it's an idea, product, service---heartless science needs to be changed. You can't get rid of science; you just need to add heart to it."

This is interesting and explains what seems quite incomprehensible. Heartlessness seems very self-defeating ultimately.

In the book, The Dancing Wu-Li Masters: An Overview of the New Physics by Gary Zukav, I first encountered a discussion about why separation from nature had become so ingrained in science. It was seen as a fundamental misinterpretation of "I think, therefore I am", a famous tenet of Rene Descartes and Cartesian Philosophy of Reason out of which "the scientific method" evolved. In this way of expressing, thought is given ascendancy. He might have said, I feel, therefore I am, but feelings are not easily measurable, and of course he expressed his own state of self-understanding. Science has used this to discredit many intuitive leaps and undermine them philosophically rather than investigate further. There is research today from Gregg Braden, the people of HeartMath, and others which says that our hearts have a "brain" and this is what coordinates the human body. Heart intelligence is intuitive and magnetic, very inclusive rather than analytical. :sunny:

I would like to share further thoughts on this topic, but may only be able to do so in short separate posts as I have trouble submitting longer posts--when it comes to trying to submit longer posts the site tells me I am not logged in and cannot submit that post. petex

Thoughts as follows:-
Evolution has provided for all species varying abilities and attributes which enable species to survive in the conditions for which those abilities and attributes have evolved thus enabling species to survive. petex

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In the case of our species, one of those attributes is to have evolved an amazing toolbox of sensory equipment which function quite specifically across the physical divide between what we think of as "ourselves" and all else which is. petex

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So great is our reliance upon this toolbox, so great a characteristic of our species, that this great reliance has the effect of making this physical divide such an overwhelming reality of everyday existence that the possible existence of a real--but not physical-- connection between "ourselves" and all else which is has become a more peripheral consideration, and not viewed as an evolutionary requirement. petex

Starflower, heartlessness truly is self-defeating, as you said, because that which strives against Universal Law---in other words, the Laws of Nature---ultimately destroys itself from within; it is simply a matter of time.
You make a very important point about the misinterpretation of the saying, "I think, therefore I am." Ascended master El Morya says that Thought reigns supreme in the universe, but his concept of thought is a far cry from the narrow meaning assigned to it by orthodox science. To him, true thought is Feeling-Thought which incorporates the feelings and intuition of the Heart, and therefore he would fully resonate with what you wisely said, that "I feel, therefore I am." I would also say, "I AM, therefore I think."

Gregg Braden sounds like an interesting fellow; I shall read about him shortly. Today I was in a Kuala Lumpur bookshop looking for any books by Nassim Haramein, but I found none. Does he write scientific books?
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I like the term, Feeling-Thought very much, Explorer21. El Morya has my deep respect.

I’m glad you are interested in Nassim Haramein, too. I came to learn about him by watching lectures he gave at conferences. These are on youtube. I learned today though, that he has written an e- book titled, The Decoded Universe or The Theory of Unification. Here is a link to his website and the Resonance Science Foundation which is his research group.

https://resonance.is/about-haramein/

These quotes by him are favorites of mine:
“If we were to extract even a small percentage of all the energy held within the vibrations present in the space inside your little finger, it would represent enough energy to supply the world’s needs for hundreds of years.”
“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking inside a radio for the announcer.”
Nassim Haramein
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Starflower, thanks for the link to Nassim's website. I love the name of his research group which makes me think of the power that propels planets, stars and spacecraft----RESONATING ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD. His quotes are awesomely insightful.
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An interesting thread, but at the end of the day no new concept of science and spirituality, whatever they are.
I've read countless books and listened to many Youtube lectures and it is the same old, same old. Everybody seems to be just repeating what others have said but dressing it up in different finery.
I may be a little unfair here but it seems very few if any can think outside the box.
Scientists are very good at finding the dots, but not necessarily good at joining the dots or realising their importance. Spiritually minded people are not good at joining the dots, because of having fixed ideas, consequently we still get many who can't see the wood for the trees because they can't change their approach.

Hello there.

For a few months now, I have been totally and spiritually stuck in a 'Dark Night of the Soul' and way out of my heart-space.

The bliss I once felt was no longer there...and no amount of monkey-faced orchids, inverted rainbows, luminescent algae or lenticular cloud formations was 'doing it' for me...I was just cold and dead inside.

So, with an interest in ancient anthropology, pre-deluvian geography and dead hieroglyph languages, I set about doing what I gave up on a while ago...trying to decipher the Indus Valley Manuscript.

Whilst I was doing so, I noticed that the symbols from the Mojendro Daro site in Pakistan were very similar (almost the same) as an ancient oceanic language called Rongorongo, which is only to be found on Easter Island and I used that as my 'Rosetta Stone'...but yeah, how did a language get from Pakistan to Easter Island some 7,000 - 10,000 years ago?

From between 2,000 BC to about 1200 AD, pyramids and temples dedicated to the worship of Lord Shiva (my own personal deity) began springing up all over the globe...from Pakistan to Vietnam...from Cambodia to Guatemala and all were totally identical in every way, shape and form...and they all were associated with a now extinct race called 'The Champa' of which the Khmer people are the living descendants and they were also responsible for the megolithic structures of Borobudur Temple in Java and the Angkor Wat facility in Cambodia, along with the MySon temple in Vietnam.

And so, I started studying the Tantric floor-plans of all these ancient temples and pyramids all over the globe....found they were all representational of the Shri Yantra (my avatar) in three dimensions and also found that the height to base measurements all represented the Golden Ratio of 1.618 and the increment of height represented the Fibonacci sequence. After that, I went into the whole mathematics of sacred geometry and pyramid/temple design...which also represented the distance from the Earth to the Sun in miles....the full precession of the equinox in years...the distance from the Earth to Galactic Central Base in Light Years...Ten times the solar year of Saturn...

Before long, I was shifting through dimensions without knowing it, with Nikola Tesla taking my hand whilst I found myself in a Torsion Field riding on Scalar Waves in the 7th dimension, which eventually led me to the sun-temple pyramid in Bosnia.

After that, I saw how the intonation of "OM" at the Schumann Resonance of 36hz produced a Shri Yantra on the etheric field which was measured by the Tonoscope and I saw two dimensional images on a flat surface immediately morph into composite incremental dimensions...first 3, then 5, then 7, ending up with my whole consciousness in full-blown 11th Dimensional awareness.



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Then, after delving into all the mathematical equations behind quantum tunneling...after seeing how beautiful it was to create natural wormholes from 11 dimensional merkabah shapes powered by Zero-Point energy along certain locations in the earth's magnetic field (Ley Lines)...something started happening to me...my heart started fully opening to all the beautiful and glorious energies of the universe, all working together in scientific and mathematical precision...I had found my 'emotion switch' and it was pure quantum physics and Vedic knowledge...and I attained the immersion in bliss once more that I had missed for oh so long.

Thank you for reading.

Hope your switch stays switched on SD

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a looming problem for us is that those who ARE good at connecting the dots generally get mistreated emotionally and/or physically... and so are slowly catching on to the idea that maybe it is not a good idea to feed the monster. Because what is the use in having your hand bitten off? Again, and Again? And yet, without an influx of new things, what is the point to all this?

I agree wholeheartedly. As soon as one finds the courage to stand up for what they know, what they understand, what they believe in, they are shot down in flames by everybody else, which does sort of lead to the presumption or eventuality of 'why do I bother?' and so, the ignorant wish to remain that way....that's cool.

What was revealed to me last night, is that mankind does this out of fear and to highlight their own insecurities under a grandiose sense of being or purpose.

I was on youtube, looking at information surrounding the Bosnian pyramids...I saw videos of the person who discovered them, who supported all the geological surveys and archaeological digs...and his videos were all open for comment.

Then, I had a look at all those 'debunkers' and all of those who sought to deny and discredit him...and what do you know? lo and behold, their videos were all closed for comment. :rolleyes:

Then, I noticed all of the comments made by people who disagreed with others on Youtube..."what drug are you on, you effing fag?" and "you are a stupid effing idiot if you expect others to believe you" and "photoshop moar please...why did I waste my time?" and "eff off our internets with this rubbish"...

Those people wouldn't know the truth if it came along and punched them in the face.

I learned something very special and important by doing that whole exercise.

I quite agree that at times its disheartening, but there is a saying that if you don't succeed try, try, try, again.
Mankind has to break out of the rut it is in and it can only be done by those who do not give up.

It is also worth remembering that even those who try to "join the dots" and build a better understanding may not be fully correct in their conclusions.
It is not a bad thing to get criticised as long as it done constructively. Nobody is perfect and we can all learn from our mistakes.