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Although the personage of Jesus was, in no doubt, a historical figure of great importance and significance, the title of being "the Christ" refers to the "Annointed One" blessed by the Lord's Grace which is through the whole "Baptism of Fire" and by now, you can probably tell where I am going to go with this.. The "Father" is that which descends, while the "Mother" is that which arises, both meeting within the heart..within the sacred fire pit of Bhairava. The energy of the Father, of Shiva comes in through the Crown Chakra and is instilled as Krystos..as ambrosia within the sacred Pineal gland..and like Jacob, we need to climb the ladder of 33 steps (the vertebrae in the human spinal column and the years that Lord Jesus walked the earth) to access the key to immortality. Who does this "climbing"? It is not the mind, ego nor personal will, but the Goddess within....pretty much the only Goddess there is.. Kundalini Shakti. Every other external manifestation of the Goddess is merely a symbolic representation OF Her. So when the Shakti ascends to meet the Grace of Shiva, they both descend from the Crown, down into the Heart Chakra where the third force is awakened which transcends both...known as Sadashiva..Brahman..that aspect of God which is absolute and not relative. I could go into this in a lot more depth, but then I will lose everyone more than I have already done. lol |
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Again, you are describing the Hindu perspective. Here are some teachings from Mystical Christianity. Quote:
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I agree that the mother ascends and the father descends but IME they meet in the head and stay there, and produce this ‘third force’. Mother Earth and Father sky in the old traditions maybe, and they produce something at the line where they meet. I’ll have to look into ‘Brahman’, see if that resonates with me. |
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LOKOTA PRAYER You provided the transliterated version. The English version of what you provided is: "My Father, Great Spirit, Who send'est the wind and the White Snow from the north, To make thy creation clean and pure, Father, make me clean and pure within my heart, That I may be accepted in thy sight and judgement." The second part, which you did not provide is: "Father, Great Spirit To the east from whence cometh the rising of the sun, and all thy living creation, Thou hast added another day to my life, for which I give thee Thanks with all my heart." |
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You correct on all accounts, except the version you provided is the transliterated version from the Lakota language. Plus I was noticing how this first part of this prayer could easily be interchanged with a Christian prayer. It is ironic that Native Ways can except and adopt many christian ways easily. But not many Christians can except Native ways and may even call them evil and down grade The People as savages. I would say that many Native ways have Mothers and Fathers in balance. Many Christian ways have stripped out many feminine references in scripture and practices. Many of the Christian ways I know about see raping the Mother of resources as a blessing from the Father. |
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Depends on the Christian Tradition. The Greek Orthodox has some good stuff. From St. Symeon The New Theologian “By what boundless mercy, my Savior, have you allowed me to become a member of your body? Me, the unclean, the defiled, the prodigal. How is it that you have clothed me in the brilliant garment, radiant with the splendor of immortality, that turns all my members into light? Your body, immaculate and divine, is all radiant with the fire of your divinity, with which it is ineffably joined and combined. This is the gift you have given me, my God: that this mortal and shabby frame has become one with your immaculate body and that my blood has mingled with your blood.” (8) “I thank you that you have become one spirit with me, without confusion, without mutation, without transformation, you the God of all; and that you have become everything for me, inexpressible and perfectly gratuitous nourishment, which ever flows to the lips of my soul and gushes out into the fountain of my heart, dazzling garment which burns the demons, purification which bathes me with these imperishable and holy tears, that your presence brings to those whom you visit. I give you thanks that for me you have become unsetting light and non-declining sun…” (9) 8. Johannes Koder: Hymnes; Vol 156 (1-15), 1969; Vol 174 (16-40), 1971; Vol 196 (41-58), 1973 9. Saint Symeon the New Theologian And Orthodox Tradition, by Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev, Oxford University Press 2000 |
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Yes, I agree it depends. I was careful to say Many, and many christian ways I know. Here in America we have many Christian traditions that evolved out of the Catholic traditions and influences. I would say that the Catholic church weaponized Christianity to conquer and control peoples and tribes across Europe that Lived from and with the land.They then continued that practice here. In Europe you can read of the killing of female witches as a way to rid groups of the feminine use of the powers and goodness of the earth/Mother. Then subjugate through a Father like punishing God. And making people dependent on the church as an intercessor instead of people being able to speak/commune with Masculine Gods and Feminine Goddesses. |
My mother has her little collection of Mary statues, and there are Marian priests, in the end people will find what they need it seems, anyway the Catholic Church left the door wide open when in his Ineffabilis Deus in 1854, Pope Pius IX wrote:
“Let all the children of the Catholic Church, who are so very dear to us, hear these words of ours. With a still more ardent zeal for piety, religion and love, let them continue to venerate, invoke and pray to the most Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, conceived without original sin. Let them fly with utter confidence to this most sweet Mother of mercy and grace in all dangers, difficulties, needs, doubts and fears. Under her guidance, under her patronage, under her kindness and protection, nothing is to be feared; nothing is hopeless. Because, while bearing toward us a truly motherly affection and having in her care the work of our salvation, she is solicitous about the whole human race. And since she has been appointed by God to be the Queen of heaven and earth, and is exalted above all the choirs of angels and saints, and even stands at the right hand of her only-begotten Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, she presents our petitions in a most efficacious manner. What she asks, she obtains. Her pleas can never be unheard.“ |
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Do you know if Mary represents the Earth Mother, the Mother of all living life forms? |
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She is considered to be queen of heaven and all of earth because she was the mother of God, but I don’t think she is considered to be the earth mother in the sense of mother of all living things. |
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