Starman............Good advice.
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I remember being very (to say the least!) angry and hateful (i.e. 'evil' :smile:) and so 'indulging' in feelings and reveling in anger and hate based fantasies towards my ex-wife (for a whole number of justifiable 'reasons') for instance, until I consciously chose to stop doing so and started wishing and treating her 'well' because I 'saw' (i.e. understood, believed, thought and felt) my/our child would be better off if her mother was in the best possible 'health'. In due course, of course :smile:, because that led to my becoming a more wholistically loving and joyful person such a decision redounded to my benefit as well. From my treatise which presents my philosophy pertaining what incarnating gives us the opportunity to 'learn' (and so choose') which the above 'episode' was a 'lesson' in: What this means is that, analogous to the way it takes many years of ‘schooling’ wherein initially ignorant and unskilled novices are tasked with learning and given the opportunity to master increasingly complex ‘lessons’ and thereby, upon ‘passing’ greater adeptitude-demanding ‘tests’, progress through a series of ‘grade’ levels to the point where they finally ‘graduate’ from vocational training programs and schools of knowledge, it takes numerous physical lifetimes for ‘young’ souls to become masterfully adept at deploying their ‘inner’ Love and Joy ‘program’ in relation to Life and others in it in the context of the infinite psychospiritual possibility containing ‘stream’ of sometimes mind-n-spirit sparking opportunities and sometimes mind-n-spirit daunting challenges that are encountered in the course of living in a matrixially multi-layered, complexly interwoven physiosocial system such as ours. |
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This takes insightful awareness, like what you had with the anger towards your ex-wife. Often people get stuck, polarized, we see a lot of that today, and they are not willing to compromise, negotiate, or find a more amiable position. Anger and hate while taxing, is easier for some than compromise, or trying to see things from the other persons' perspective. Anger and hate can become habitual and infectious to others, just like joy and love can become habitual and infectious to others. Changing one's attitude often takes a lot of work, depending on how stuck a person might be. Attitude often directs a person's life and allows them to see what they see, or don't see. It is said that our attitude determines our altitude. What we give our attention to, for brtter or worst, grows. |
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Thanks Starman, my work depresses me a little, spending most of my time and energy on that. I wish I could do other things but have people to feed. I agree that it’s the moments when we are love that is our most nourishing and joyful times. Jl |
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GREAT POINTS! I suspect you do not buy into the evil scenario, I do not. |
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GOOD POINT Evil might exist, but not in the way most people use the word. I suspect evil is an individualized thought form created by ones who believe in it and constantly feed it. |
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Perhaps we need the wisdom of Rumi here.... the other Rumi. "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones" Donald Rumsfeld Life is a journey in which the soul goes for a ride with the mind and ego in the drivers side. Perhaps one can boot them out and take over the wheel, but then the journey will be necessarily different. Not wrong, but not necessarily better, just different. GPS vs an old fashioned road trip. Astray can be one of the best places to go, but of course there are those dangerous neighborhoods to think about getting lost in as well. |
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Not sure what is really being said, but it does seem interesting. What I got out of it was that some things can be predicted. For example, when there is another mass shooting, I try to find answers as to why the person did what they did. What were some of the triggers, etc. that caused the person to do what they did. Can some of these disasters be predicted? I would say "Yes" if people get more familiar with the perpetrator. Some claim the person is evil but the more I look at the background of the person, the person appears to be a result of their environment, childhood, lack of taking their meds or being prescribed the wrong meds. |
There was a time when the problem of evil would be raised, as to why God permits it to exist if He is loving and omnipotent. Atheists often like to get bogged down in this spurious argument, in their attempt to make God out to seem nonexistent, perhaps not realizing that they are entering into a somewhat intricate, theological debate which they are simply not adequately versed in enough to offer sound and persuasive reasoning. At least these atheists are lucid enough in their thinking to acknowledge the reality of objective evil, something which is seemingly beyond the grasp of those who in theory claim to make no distinction between good and bad, right and wrong, yet are in practice far removed from psychopaths who, coincidentally, think in the same warped manner.
If evil is a negative sounding word that is only because life has its negative aspects alongside its positive ones. One may dislike the term but banishing the word from one’s active vocabulary does not nothing to remove its existence from consensus reality, no matter how sandy one’s hair may be. If one has ever studied sociopathy or criminology, one cannot help but come to the conclusion that there is certainly something within certain human beings that compels them to commit heinous deeds, other than factors within the psychology of the deranged individual that might be traced back to arrant parenting. A naturalist might chalk up such depraved activity to either insanity or some quasi-mysterious psychological remnant of our primal ancestors (the atavistic view), but never to diabolical forces. It is the fashionable thing nowadays for some people to question the very existence of evil, primarily because we live in a world that generally believes and teaches a non-spiritual worldview and where worldly success is often attained at the expense of any virtues and values one might have had at the outset of his ambitious pursuit. A psychopath is one who lacks a strong concience, or any one at all, who feels little or no pity, compassion, or remorse. Psychologists who have studied this particular mentality have wondered whether the psychopath is, at least in part, a product of his evolutionary minded and dog-eat-dog social environment, where even in business and politics, although no violent crimes are committed, one nevertheless often finds the same sociopathic spirit in practice, in the form of ruthless business practices. In other words, would wickedness exist at the lower rungs in a society if it were not for the existence of corruption or outright evil in high places? If the answer to that is no or not very likely, one might then rule out the psychological/biological perspective in favor of a sociological or even supernatural explanation. Save for extreme examples, as in the case of outright bad seeds and nefarious dictators, I don’t think there is any one definitive answer that can satisfactorily account for the behavior of evildoers as a whole, whether that be the influence of the reptilian brain or Reptilian string-pullers. It might very well be a combination of causes. In the Bible, the most malefic being of all that is said to exist is referred to as the Evil One, with power over the entire world. This holy tome teaches that man may be so inherently corrupt so as to be unqualified to live independent of divine direction, but it doesn’t help matters when, elsewhere it’s mentioned, the Earth is littered with machinators, quite possibly influencing global affairs and playing one side off the other. |
Evil is anything that is marked by sin or controlled by the devil and his demons. It is anything that doesn't align to who Jesus is and his will. That is why the world can be full of all kinds of evil, while also being full of all kinds of good. Both the devil and God are very active in the earth. But in the end evil will lose because Jesus is coming back to conquer all things as the one true king of the universe!!
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