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Baile 06-06-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by norseman
I think the fact that kills this discussion

The rotting meat thing killed my appetite, that's for sure.

Gem 06-06-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by knightofalbion
The core issue is spiritual evolution.

As we grow in wisdom, love and understanding things which 'we' once viewed as 'acceptable', 'we' come to see as error and unacceptable and 'we' abandon them for a better and higher way of living.


I guess people who live in harsher climates are lesser evolved, according to this theory.

Baile 06-06-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gem
I guess people who live in harsher climates are lesser evolved, according to this theory.

Exactly why I say I rather than We when this topic is discussed.

Ecthalion 06-06-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gem
I guess people who live in harsher climates are lesser evolved, according to this theory.

Maybe so, unless they migrate?
If you lived in a land where cannibalism was the order of the day would you partake?

knightofalbion 06-06-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gem
I guess people who live in harsher climates are lesser evolved, according to this theory.


I recall you raised this same point a while back about the Gilbert Islands and I remember I pointed out that the Gilbert Islands have been known as Kiribati since 1979 and that they have an obesity problem to the consumption of too much processed foods.

The Inuit, whom I presume you are alluding to no longer live in igloos but in settlement houses, so even for them it is not impossible.

Mathew James 06-06-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Baile
I see now, the Bible was written to turn people into vegetarians. After reading that.


Is fish considered a meat for vegies? There was alot of fish around Jesus.

mj

innerlight 06-06-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by knightofalbion
The core issue is spiritual evolution.

As we grow in wisdom, love and understanding things which 'we' once viewed as 'acceptable', 'we' come to see as error and unacceptable and 'we' abandon them for a better and higher way of living.



Jesus ate fish. Would that make him lacking in love, wisdom, understanding and compassion by doing such a thing?

Not everyone can eat the same as everyone else. That doesn't mean they are any less loving, evolved, understanding or compassionate.

knightofalbion 06-06-2014 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by innerlight
Jesus ate fish. Would that make him lacking in love, wisdom, understanding and compassion by doing such a thing?

Not everyone can eat the same as everyone else. That doesn't mean they are any less loving, evolved, understanding or compassionate.


No he didn't.

The Bible was written, compiled and corrupted by man and it says what the the Roman Catholic Church wanted it to say. (Which is how slavery came to be condoned in the Bible) They wanted their creed to appeal to the masses and the anti-meat, anti-blood sports, anti- strong drink, honouring of women true Christian philosophy didn't fit the bill.

There is dispute over wheter the Feeding of the 5000 happened that way (bread and grapes, instead of bread and fish) or that it even happened at all i.e. that it is a gematrical allegory.

The catching of 153 fish in a net was 'borrowed' directly from Pythagoras. 153 is a sacred gematric number in the Pythagorean tradition.

knightofalbion 06-06-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by innerlight

Not everyone can eat the same as everyone else. That doesn't mean they are any less loving, evolved, understanding or compassionate.



You are putting words in my mouth.

200 years ago slavery was legal.
100 years ago women weren't to be trusted with the vote.
50 years ago there was still racial segregation in America.

Humanity evolves, comes to see things differently. What was once acceptable, seen in a different light and understanding, becomes unacceptable. That is what I'm saying.

innerlight 06-06-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by knightofalbion
No he didn't.

The Bible was written, compiled and corrupted by man and it says what the the Roman Catholic Church wanted it to say. (Which is how slavery came to be condoned in the Bible) They wanted their creed to appeal to the masses and the anti-meat, anti-blood sports, anti- strong drink, honouring of women true Christian philosophy didn't fit the bill.

There is dispute over wheter the Feeding of the 5000 happened that way (bread and grapes, instead of bread and fish) or that it even happened at all i.e. that it is a gematrical allegory.

The catching of 153 fish in a net was 'borrowed' directly from Pythagoras. 153 is a sacred gematric number in the Pythagorean tradition.


He said to them, “Have you anything here to eat?” 42 They gave Him a piece of a broiled fish; 43 and He took it and ate it before them.

It's pretty clear that he had eaten fish... Now if we are to say this verse is not true, and was added to sell an agenda at the time.. We now have to say that about everything. Even that Jesus existed, that he performed any miracles. That he died and that he rose from the dead. As any and all stories/testimonies were written by humans and could have been corrupted as what you said.

I would find it a little fishy to have been an exaggeration to sell their meat eating agenda. All they needed to say was that he ate a piece of bread. The point would have still been that he ate food. Whether it was fish or bread.


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