well there is two sides of that. the heard also gets broken up because of religion too. lol.

interestingly since you mention community - i read an article the other day that suggested religion was actually the cause of civilisation. they found a temple that suggested that hunter gatherers had built as one of the first structures.

personally i think i will stick to thinking farming was the casue of civilsation as its far more practical.

nice hat :D

The Consciousness or God Mind that's responsible for the creation... how about that for starters? What do you think we're tapping into when we meditate, or when we have a divine inspiration? What do you think is the consciousness source that's responsible for the daily miracles, both small and large, we encounter in life?

I’m enjoying your posts. But just to keep us on the same page, I never said religious types were not spiritual. I think we all are. It’s just that some of us are more aware and more accepting of that fact.

You keep posting and I’ll keep reading. :smile:

*pokes eagle with a stick*

When did we grow up?! Lol Great post. Either we have rubbed off on eachother, or the apocalypse is upon us...

I have nothing of value to add lol

Blame the Sumerians' Annunaki for civilisation and religion, they started it:-) It wouldn't surprise me though if the first temple was built by hunter/gatherers considering they would want to grow and catch more to feed themselves and their families.


Or some have this concept that they are more Spiritual because they meditate or try to be like the gurus. I think we are all Spiritual after own own fashion, perhaps the big test is seeing the Spirituality where there is none immediately apparent.

Spiritual or religious, find Spirituality in your religion or follow your Spirituality religiously. Be neither Spiritual nor religious. Follow the herd or walk your own Path. What are the differences? Only the ones we choose to make.

If we are Spirit on a human Journey, how much more Spiritual can you get regardless of what you think of Spirituality or religion? We resonate at this 3D frequency or however else you describe it to learn the lessons/gain experience/whatever else. Isn't that a practical side to our Spirituality? If 'We Are One' and we argue over who is more Spiritual than the other, doesn't that perpetuate Separation? And isn't Separation supposed to be a bad thing?

Is it just me, or are there just too many contradictions being created when really there are none?

well to be honest i concede the point - as i believe that the universe is concious at a basic level and that it is responsible for creating the universe in the first place - but that is still technically an "Earthly conciousness" as the Earth is part of phsycial reality.


the quick answer for the above from my beliefs would be - self and us. the link may explain my viewpoint a bit more.

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ad.php?t=21323

perhaps you would like to describe a miracle you mention? :smile:

i have never "rubbed off" on you thank you very much! i am married my dear! lol

apocalypse pah! bring it on!



life in general - or just for this thread???

hugs lol :hug2:

you are right - i apologise.

i dont think some are more "aware" though. perhaps a langauge game again - i view it as we have the same awareness but direct our thoughts along paths that lead different places. you cant be fully aware of the other places unless you are there.

if that makes sense. lol. :D

Very nice.........I enjoyed that! :smile:

Ha-ha! I was wondering if you were going to come back with that. Of course, everything is interrelated, and human consciousness is part of that everything. On the other hand, from a hermetic perspective, there's truth in every opposite idea. So it's just as correct to say when we meditate, we tap into energy and consciousness that is uniquely different than human or earthly consciousness. I certainly don't have the consciousness to pull off creation, do you? So there you go: regardless of whether one cares to recognize other forms of consciousness, the fact is there IS something related to "higher" forms of consciousness, awareness and creative action. And sleepy mortals like myself and everyone else on this forum are simply not there yet.