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Dream Angel
26-01-2011, 03:10 PM
I have heard that one must ask their pendulum a question correctly, to receive an answer. I have also heard there are many ways to ask the same question...

in regards to this, then I would think the answers to all the questions, even if re-worded, should be the same ?

I will give an example ~

1 ~ I asked if it was a good idea if I spoke on the phone with a certain someone ~ YES
2 ~ I asked if I should talk on the phone with this same person ~ YES
3 ~ I asked if I should ask this person to talk on the phone with me ~ NO

I can see that the first two questions are similar, and this might explain why I get the YES answer

then, I am wondering since it IS a good idea if I speak on the phone with a certain someone and since I SHOULD talk on the phone with this same person

then WHY am I getting NO for an answer, when I am asking if I should ask this person to talk on the phone to me ?

Aren't these conflicting answers ?

Just out of curiosity, I am wondering if anyone would like to do a similar experiment, reword a question 3 times and see if you get the same answers or conflicting answers?

thank you,
Dream Angel xx

Selenphina
26-01-2011, 04:12 PM
I don't know... maybe the other person is meant to contact you. Or perhaps just because something is a good idea, does that mean the time is right to act on that idea? just throwing some ideas out there. But when using my pendulum, I typically only ask something once. You bring up a great point, though, how important the wording of the question is.

SoaringSpirit
26-01-2011, 04:19 PM
The way you phrase a question is very important - eg: If you asked "Is it raining outside" you may very well get a YES, even though its bright sunshine outside you house. the reason you would get a yes, is because you were not being specific enough, it obviously was raining outside somewhere in the world.

With regard to asking the same question three different ways, personally I don't like to do that cause it seems rude. If you were asking a person a question, would you continue to ask them the same question in three different ways if they had already answered you the first time??? If someone did that to me, I'd probably also give a stupid answer by the third time LOL

AngelBreeze
27-01-2011, 12:23 AM
Warm and Special Greetings Dream Angel!

Concerning your question, the reason why your third try produced a "no" response from your pendulum is that a question should never be asked more than once. Whenever a question is asked more than once you can certainly run into the type of situation you have encountered where there will be conflicts.

The pendulum works with sympathetic vibrations and once it has given an answer, to retest the pendulum again and yet again, (and no offense to you because many others do the same thing) is redundancy. If the pendulum senses, through your SVs, that you do not accept the first answer given, it perceives that you want a different outcome thus, may very well give you one, in part due to your own thoughts that can bring this about! Therefore, once an answer is given, that is the answer given. Finis. To continue to ask again is the equivalent of asking your boss if you can get a day off and being told that you can, but you ask another time, and receive the same answer, and then you ask yet another time until the person who gave you the original answer gets tired of you asking and gives you a negative response. So you now see what can happen!

It is not necessary to ask more than once. Asking once should truly suffice. If the answer is however not clear the first time or you get a conditional response that you may not understand, then you might ask to have the answer clarified by asking once more but be sure to reword your question. If the answer is still not clear, do not continue to ask again. Simply wait until another time.

Sorry that I cannot participate in your experiment as requested since I know to ask only once thus I'm sure you understand.

Thank you for this question. It is a very good one!

Many light-filled blessings to you!
AngelBreeze

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When one lovingly shares with benevolent people of like mind, something great is bound to happen! -- AngelBreeze

Dream Angel
27-01-2011, 12:35 AM
Thank you Selenphina, SoaringSpirit and AngelBreeze ~ 3 answers basically the same, only ask 1 question !

I guess I was just looking for confirmation, I never thought about the things you all mentioned. I didn't mean to sound like I was doubting the first answer given, but I guess that is what I was doing. I was just wanting to make sure.

AngelBreeze you do give such excellent examples in answering my questions, using non spiritual related experiences. Just wondering, have you thought about writing a book - something along the lines of Pendulum Guidelines ? I would be in line to purchase a copy !

Experiment cancelled, lol ~ due to 3 excellent replies ! Thank you all ! :hug3:

blessings of light,
Dream Angel xx

Spiritlite
27-01-2011, 01:49 AM
I ask a yes or no question that's obvious so I know what is yes or no.
THen I ask the question only once going into detail such as "should I talk to Tony Brown, will it be beneficial for me" then it answers yes, then I ask "is that the correct answer" then it says yes I stop if it says no I reask.
I don't ask the same question in different ways over and over as I feel this causes confusion.
Spiritlite.

Dream Angel
27-01-2011, 08:48 AM
Now that you mention it Spiritlite, I have heard of the same thing, asking if this is the correct answer. Interesting the different ways questions are asked of our pendulums.

blessings,
Dream Angel xx

innerlight
27-01-2011, 01:17 PM
It may be possible that there was confusion in the wording of the question. Or you were not clear in your request. I find in those situations to ask a second, or third time, to see if the answer stays the same.

Answers can also change depending on when you ask them. If you asked the first two questions on Monday, and then on Tuesday asked the 3 question. You may get a different answer. As our lives are always changing so what may of been true one day, can waiver to something else another day.

Dream Angel
27-01-2011, 01:40 PM
hi Inner,

After reading your reply, I am thinking maybe I wasn't quite clear in my request. And in trying to be, I ended up with the 3 questions. I wonder, if I asked you to ask the question for me, would you get a different answer than if I asked the question ?

Interesting thought on the answers changing ~ that idea never crossed my mind. I'd like to check out this idea with you, we could come up with one question each, then both ask it on different days and see what happens ?

Dream Angel xx

innerlight
27-01-2011, 01:52 PM
I got yes, for all the questions. It depends on what the question is there may not be a change in the answer. I have noticed some stay the same, but some change. I suppose it's all a matter of how flexible the answer could of been.

I still haven't ruled out that the pendulum is not just telling me what I want to hear.

Dream Angel
27-01-2011, 01:54 PM
It could also be that what you want to hear, is what is ~

innerlight
27-01-2011, 02:02 PM
It could also be that what you want to hear, is what is ~

If that was always the case then the answers wouldn't waiver.

Dream Angel
27-01-2011, 03:47 PM
If that was always the case then the answers wouldn't waiver.

picky, picky :tongue: I didn't say it was always the case :hug:

LightFilledHeart
27-01-2011, 04:13 PM
Concerning your question, the reason why your third try produced a "no" response from your pendulum is that a question should never be asked more than once. Whenever a question is asked more than once you can certainly run into the type of situation you have encountered where there will be conflicts.

The pendulum works with sympathetic vibrations and once it has given an answer, to retest the pendulum again and yet again, (and no offense to you because many others do the same thing) is redundancy. If the pendulum senses, through your SVs, that you do not accept the first answer given, it perceives that you want a different outcome thus, may very well give you one, in part due to your own thoughts that can bring this about! Therefore, once an answer is given, that is the answer given. Finis. To continue to ask again is the equivalent of asking your boss if you can get a day off and being told that you can, but you ask another time, and receive the same answer, and then you ask yet another time until the person who gave you the original answer gets tired of you asking and gives you a negative response. So you now see what can happen!

It is not necessary to ask more than once. Asking once should truly suffice. If the answer is however not clear the first time or you get a conditional response that you may not understand, then you might ask to have the answer clarified by asking once more but be sure to reword your question. If the answer is still not clear, do not continue to ask again. Simply wait until another time.

It seems to me if the method is accurate it should work every time. Spirit is not impatient, nor is the Higher Self. Changing answers indicates capreciousness and inaccuracy in the method IMO.

AngelBreeze
27-01-2011, 04:13 PM
Thank you Selenphina, SoaringSpirit and AngelBreeze ~ 3 answers basically the same, only ask 1 question !

I guess I was just looking for confirmation, I never thought about the things you all mentioned. I didn't mean to sound like I was doubting the first answer given, but I guess that is what I was doing. I was just wanting to make sure.

AngelBreeze you do give such excellent examples in answering my questions, using non spiritual related experiences. Just wondering, have you thought about writing a book - something along the lines of Pendulum Guidelines ? I would be in line to purchase a copy !

Experiment cancelled, lol ~ due to 3 excellent replies ! Thank you all ! :hug3:

blessings of light,
Dream Angel xx

Good morning Dream Angel!

Thank you for your lovely comments on my work! It is truly appreciated. For some years now I have studied material and attended formal classes, conducted research, spoken with other pendulists, and continue to do my own work with the pendulum as well as receive inspired material from Spiritual sources. About writing a book, I have thought about that and certainly have enough material collected, due to my own experiments and work with the pendulum that I'm sure it would be well received. Thanks for the encouragement, it is good food for thought!

I thought you'd also like to know that there was a very famous church figure in the late 1800's to early 1900's who used the pendulum years ago in his work. The technical term for this is Radiesthesia. His name was Abbé Alexis Mermet. He was a priest who was French and a Catholic. Incidentally, the term "radiesthesia" is the technical term used to indicate pendulum work since the pendulum basically works with radiations or vibrations.

It is good to know we can all discuss things here concerning this fascinating work!

More Blessings To You and To All! <3
AngelBreeze

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When one lovingly shares with benevolent people of like mind, something great is bound to happen! -- AngelBreeze

innerlight
27-01-2011, 04:18 PM
Concerning your question, the reason why your third try produced a "no" response from your pendulum is that a question should never be asked more than once. Whenever a question is asked more than once you can certainly run into the type of situation you have encountered where there will be conflicts.

The pendulum works with sympathetic vibrations and once it has given an answer, to retest the pendulum again and yet again, (and no offense to you because many others do the same thing) is redundancy. If the pendulum senses, through your SVs, that you do not accept the first answer given, it perceives that you want a different outcome thus, may very well give you one, in part due to your own thoughts that can bring this about! Therefore, once an answer is given, that is the answer given. Finis. To continue to ask again is the equivalent of asking your boss if you can get a day off and being told that you can, but you ask another time, and receive the same answer, and then you ask yet another time until the person who gave you the original answer gets tired of you asking and gives you a negative response. So you now see what can happen!

It is not necessary to ask more than once. Asking once should truly suffice. If the answer is however not clear the first time or you get a conditional response that you may not understand, then you might ask to have the answer clarified by asking once more but be sure to reword your question. If the answer is still not clear, do not continue to ask again. Simply wait until another time.

It seems to me if the method is accurate it should work every time. Spirit is not impatient, nor is the Higher Self. Changing answers indicates capreciousness and inaccuracy in the method IMO.

You know that makes a lot of sense, and I never really thought of it that way. That continued questions could be construed as badgering, or wanting a different answer.

Should we then accept that answer or move on? But what if the answer was not correct, or worded wrong?

Dream Angel
27-01-2011, 04:46 PM
Good morning AngelBreeze !

Wow, impressive on the pendulum credentials. I am finding all this more and more fascinating. I would love to take a class about pendulums.

Excellent, " food for thought " on the book idea. Put me down as first on your " want to purchase a copy list " ! oh, and if it is not asking too much, I would like an autographed copy. :smile:

Looks like I need to find out more about this French/Catholic monk & Radiesthesia. Sounds most interesting ! now how did they come up with a name like Radiesthesia ? one does wonder :D

It is good to know we can all discuss things here concerning this fascinating work!

AngelBreeze, you are most welcome to talk about anything related to pendulums in this thread if you wish ! I am most interested as I am sure others are, to learn more about such an interesting divination tool . Looking forward to hearing more from you !

:hug3: Dream Angel xx

AngelBreeze
28-01-2011, 04:08 AM
Good morning AngelBreeze !

Wow, impressive on the pendulum credentials. I am finding all this more and more fascinating. I would love to take a class about pendulums.

Excellent, " food for thought " on the book idea. Put me down as first on your " want to purchase a copy list " ! oh, and if it is not asking too much, I would like an autographed copy. :smile:

Looks like I need to find out more about this French/Catholic monk & Radiesthesia. Sounds most interesting ! now how did they come up with a name like Radiesthesia ? one does wonder :D



AngelBreeze, you are most welcome to talk about anything related to pendulums in this thread if you wish ! I am most interested as I am sure others are, to learn more about such an interesting divination tool . Looking forward to hearing more from you !

:hug3: Dream Angel xx

Greetings and Kind Salutations, Dream Angel!

Great to hear from you! Thank you for your awesome comments! Yes, pendulum work is very fascinating and it seems like there is always something new to discover each time work is done in that regard.

Oh, you are such a neat little angel! You say the nicest things about me and my work. And of course I would autograph a copy of my book for you! It goes without saying that I would! Thanks for the encouragement!

You ask about radiesthesia and its origins. Perhaps this excellent website will help with that. There are many great things there including societies, etc. dealing with pendulum (radiesthetic) work!

http://www.radiesthesia.co.uk/

Thanks again for the comments and for just being you!!

With light and love in heart always and many blessings,
(\o/) AngelBreeze (\o/)

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When one lovingly shares with benevolent people of like mind, something great is bound to happen! -- AngelBreeze

Spiritlite
28-01-2011, 03:48 PM
Someone mentioned you can influence an answer by getting the answer you want, I find that to be true, so I usually just go in with a very clean slate and I just don't care what answer I get either way.....
Spiritlite.

Dream Angel
28-01-2011, 04:24 PM
Good morning AngelBreeze ! :hug3:

I hope your day is wonderful and continues to be so !

Just saying it like I see it, as regards your knowledge on the pendulums. I do find it so interesting and I thank you for your insights and of course the links, and other info you share with me. I will be sure to look into the excellent info on the link you listed, I just took a quick glance for the moment. I can get soo distracted with experiencing and learning new things, I just want to focus on them and forget everything else. There just aren't enough hours in the day sometimes, lol !

oh and thank you ! :hug3:

blessings from the heart,
Dream Angel xx

*Amanda*
28-01-2011, 04:43 PM
I always ask a straight foward question. Yes or No.... and I never ask a question more then just the one time. I've also found that if I take a piece of paper and write down the question and repeat it to myself to make sure that is how I want the question asked before I ask the pendulum that I always get a straight foward answer in return.

I keep a note book of tarot card readings and pendulum questions just so if anything comes to mind I can make sure that I haven't asked something the same ... you half to have trust in the pendulum....

AngelBreeze
28-01-2011, 04:51 PM
Good morning AngelBreeze ! :hug3:

I hope your day is wonderful and continues to be so !

Just saying it like I see it, as regards your knowledge on the pendulums. I do find it so interesting and I thank you for your insights and of course the links, and other info you share with me. I will be sure to look into the excellent info on the link you listed, I just took a quick glance for the moment. I can get soo distracted with experiencing and learning new things, I just want to focus on them and forget everything else. There just aren't enough hours in the day sometimes, lol !

oh and thank you ! :hug3:

blessings from the heart,
Dream Angel xx

Good morning, Dream Angel! (Many Hugs to you too!)

I know with your wonderful Spirit and Light, this day can't be anything but wonderful for you!

I hope you find the links and information interesting and informative as I have. Learning about the pendulum is indeed a process of just getting down to doing it and experimenting with different ways of working with it. Application to the cause is key! There is lots to learn and more information that is disseminated all the time from the higher realms.

Please always remember to give thanks to God for each and every day and His many blessings, as I do!

Many blessings with Light and Love from the heart to you! (More hugs!)
(\o/) AngelBreeze (\o/)

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When one lovingly shares with benevolent people of like mind, something great is bound to happen! -- AngelBreeze

dogninja
28-01-2011, 05:24 PM
I don't use pendulums, but have you ever had any confirmation on questions you are asking?

AngelBreeze
29-01-2011, 09:03 PM
I don't use pendulums, but have you ever had any confirmation on questions you are asking?

I'm not exactly sure whom you are addressing but if your question is 'open' to whomever wishes to respond, let me say that I have received great confirmations on my use of the pendulum many of which later proved to be the correct ones!

I discuss this further in the pendulum section in response to Dream Angel's question.

Thanks and have a Wonderful day!

(\o/) AngelBreeze (\o/)
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When one lovingly shares with benevolent people of like mind, something great is bound to happen! -- AngelBreeze

sapphire97
30-01-2011, 05:53 AM
never tried.

Dream Angel
30-01-2011, 01:46 PM
Good morning AngelBreeze !

Yes, I am finding the links you gave me interesting and informative ! Now I just have to practice, and think of more questions to ask the pendulum.

And speaking of blessings, I do give thanks to God for my blessings each day, a wonderful way to start out the day !

I hope you are enjoying a blessings filled weekend !

blessings from the heart,
Dream Angel xx

shifty123
30-01-2011, 07:20 PM
Warm and Special Greetings Dream Angel!

Concerning your question, the reason why your third try produced a "no" response from your pendulum is that a question should never be asked more than once. Whenever a question is asked more than once you can certainly run into the type of situation you have encountered where there will be conflicts.

The pendulum works with sympathetic vibrations and once it has given an answer, to retest the pendulum again and yet again, (and no offense to you because many others do the same thing) is redundancy. If the pendulum senses, through your SVs, that you do not accept the first answer given, it perceives that you want a different outcome thus, may very well give you one, in part due to your own thoughts that can bring this about! Therefore, once an answer is given, that is the answer given. Finis. To continue to ask again is the equivalent of asking your boss if you can get a day off and being told that you can, but you ask another time, and receive the same answer, and then you ask yet another time until the person who gave you the original answer gets tired of you asking and gives you a negative response. So you now see what can happen!

It is not necessary to ask more than once. Asking once should truly suffice. If the answer is however not clear the first time or you get a conditional response that you may not understand, then you might ask to have the answer clarified by asking once more but be sure to reword your question. If the answer is still not clear, do not continue to ask again. Simply wait until another time.

Sorry that I cannot participate in your experiment as requested since I know to ask only once thus I'm sure you understand.

Thank you for this question. It is a very good one!

Many light-filled blessings to you!
AngelBreeze

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When one lovingly shares with benevolent people of like mind, something great is bound to happen! -- AngelBreeze


Very true, it's a lot like self doubt or when you take a test in school. If you are guessig the answer. The first answerthat comes to your mind is usually the correct answer.

Now I havea question for anglebreeze. I like youravatarname by the way.

Anyways when I'm using my pendulum sometimes I have to lengthen it to get an energy flow. Sometimes I can use it in its shorter length form why is that so?

Dream Angel
02-02-2011, 08:33 AM
Now I havea question for anglebreeze. I like youravatarname by the way.

Anyways when I'm using my pendulum sometimes I have to lengthen it to get an energy flow. Sometimes I can use it in its shorter length form why is that so?

Good question on the length of the chain, string ... just bringing it up for AngelBreeze.

shifty123
04-02-2011, 09:19 PM
On the length of chain. Some people claim the longer the chain the longer it takes to get a answer. To me if the answer is accurate who cares. J

Medium_Laura
04-02-2011, 09:42 PM
4 inches is what I've heard in my studies. Also holding it parallel to the heart chakra.

The other thing is this :

Things that can Cause an Incorrect Response from the Pendulum:

Poor communication. (inaccurate phrasing) The most important thing is how you phrase the question. For example, don't just ask "Is this water good for me"?" Be more accurate: Good in what way? The water may have both good and bad aspects. For example, you may be extremely thirsty, so the water is good for replenishing your body fluids, but the water could be tainted and later give you diarrhea. So state the question more clearly such as "Will this water serve my highest and greatest good?"
Asking questions that are too general: Don't ask general questions such as "Is Mary healthy?" Rather ask specific questions such as "Is Mary's diet causing her health problems?"
Being tired.
Forcing the situation. Using the pendulum even though the time or circumstances may not be right.
Being off Center: Feeling mentally or emotionally out of balance. You need to be in the right frame of mind.
Focusing too heavily on the pendulum itself, and not enough on the information inside you.
Being too close to high frequency electrical equipment (operate at least 3 ft from a TV or computer screen).

courtesy of http://www.lovesedona.com

Dream Angel
04-02-2011, 11:49 PM
On the length of chain. Some people claim the longer the chain the longer it takes to get a answer. To me if the answer is accurate who cares. J

now really, how much longer is an inch or two going to make when it comes to answer time ? :D

Medium Laura ~ 4 inches is about the length I use, just by chance- just feels right.

Thanks for sharing the list of "Things that can Cause an Incorrect Response from the Pendulum". Good to know these things !

Dream Angel xx

bornagain
05-02-2011, 02:23 AM
Warm and Special Greetings Dream Angel!

Concerning your question, the reason why your third try produced a "no" response from your pendulum is that a question should never be asked more than once. Whenever a question is asked more than once you can certainly run into the type of situation you have encountered where there will be conflicts.

The pendulum works with sympathetic vibrations and once it has given an answer, to retest the pendulum again and yet again, (and no offense to you because many others do the same thing) is redundancy. If the pendulum senses, through your SVs, that you do not accept the first answer given, it perceives that you want a different outcome thus, may very well give you one, in part due to your own thoughts that can bring this about! Therefore, once an answer is given, that is the answer given. Finis. To continue to ask again is the equivalent of asking your boss if you can get a day off and being told that you can, but you ask another time, and receive the same answer, and then you ask yet another time until the person who gave you the original answer gets tired of you asking and gives you a negative response. So you now see what can happen!

It is not necessary to ask more than once. Asking once should truly suffice. If the answer is however not clear the first time or you get a conditional response that you may not understand, then you might ask to have the answer clarified by asking once more but be sure to reword your question. If the answer is still not clear, do not continue to ask again. Simply wait until another time.

Sorry that I cannot participate in your experiment as requested since I know to ask only once thus I'm sure you understand.

Thank you for this question. It is a very good one!

Many light-filled blessings to you!
AngelBreeze

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When one lovingly shares with benevolent people of like mind, something great is bound to happen! -- AngelBreeze

very informative. ty for sharing :)