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Miss Hepburn
29-12-2015, 04:22 PM
Since I get private messages often on things ( God, faith, LOA, prayer, happiness)
my words often only go to ONE person! Hahahaha.... :tongue:
So I thought for those interested I would...expound a little on this "how to get your prayers answered" thing. :smile:
Why listen to anything I have to say?
Because until last year I have not had one single prayer not answered.
The one not answered, I am very honest about;
I understand perfectly there were factors out of my control...as in the person's core belief system,
external influences countering the prayer, and possibly the person's own life plan or her soul's blueprint to die...and so she did!
This is something you must be aware of...other forces or influences.
Unconscious forces, too...within yourself you don't even realize...aaaannnd that is why they are called unconscious. :D
Lol!
I could write so much on this subject, but to just get the ball rolling:
(For those interested.)
1. You really must know deep in your core that you deserve to receive all that your heart desires.
A chapter could be written on this...and eventually I may say more.
2. You must believe nothing is impossible.
3. Faith in God, of any name, any concept will not be enough if in your
subconscious mind you do not believe you are worthy or do not deserve what you are asking for.
"I have faith and believe God can move mountains...but, not for me..."
4. You must do the work...the research, the study of the subject matter.
You must put in the time ...just as you would if you desired to lose weight or get a certain job.
5. And what is the subject? God, the Creator and Sustainer, the Essence within everything...and
how this Universe works...the
System in which it works with...always.
6. Know things could take an hour or a month.
NEVER have any doubt...ever...never.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I will talk about IF anyone shows interest is what works for me.
Other 'techniques' may work well for others.
But, as I said...only one thing in my life have I not 'gotten'...
but, there were many other factors involved, oh well.
Will some think this is egotistical, sure.
But all the gratitude and acknowledgment goes to God, the Only One,
the Divine, that
we live, move and have our being in.
The 2 book recommendations to start: "Answered Prayer Guaranteed!"
by Dr. Frederick Price and
"Ask And It Is Given" by Ester Hicks and Abraham, her first book.
Read and apply those and you wouldn't have to read this thread! :wink:
knightofalbion
29-12-2015, 05:12 PM
One could argue that not answering is answering i.e. either it wasn't your due or it was wrong for your spiritual development.
Spirit always knows best.
So many want life to be all sunshine and roses! We wouldn't learn much if it was!
To find yourself in the occasional battle square will, in the long run, serve you well.
naturesflow
29-12-2015, 05:24 PM
We receive what we need.
We prayer for it because we think we have too. (Sometimes it can pertain to lack of trust or desire to have and thinking we control that space) It gives hope in situations where hope is lost.
But ultimately as we move and want, create and need, the cycles of change in life in every way of life coming our way, is just life moving itself and us seeing change as nature intended and as per our own nature as a whole unfolding in this life.
We try so hard to make life happen.
Yet life is happening in everyway and we only have to meet it and be willing to meet ourselves in everyway to see this.
Being ourselves.
Trust in our life and all life does help.
Life is process, prayer doesn't take away process, it just supports process to build trust in process.
Sarian
30-12-2015, 02:00 PM
Thanks, Miss Hepburn! I look forward to reading more.:hug:
Thank you Miss Hepburn. This is most interesting.
Once, someone I loved very much was struck suddenly with massive internal bleeding. This came unexpectedly. The diagnosis was not hopeful. It was a terminal condition.
They lay there 'dying' that night. I went in the garden and prayed with all the love and energy I had in me to please Lord, give them a few more days. We are not ready yet.
Neither of us were 'ready' for that transition. Whatever it was heard me, knew that. Knew our limitations, loved us anyway.
I thought that prayer would go unanswered. But I was given a very vivid dream how to help them. I felt such Love.
They recovered (though obviously still ill.) But the crisis passed and they were given 6 days of a very happy and peaceful time.
I know the prayer was answered, and bowed my head and Heart with the feeling of that Grace.
Miss Hepburn
30-12-2015, 07:31 PM
For anyone interested in how I have all my prayers answered and
things manifest and appear and come all the time....things
people can't even believe...I myself drop my mouth...
But mainly how 'He' hears all my thoughts and loves me that much ... :hug3:
If I repeat myself, excuse me...I glanced back at my first post...it's too much to remember not to repeat something. Lol!
I'm going to say what 'works for me'...
To me this is a must, to others they might say it is not.
I will say 'I' instead of 'You must'...I must keep a direct connection with
God (replace another word there, Lord, Krishna, the Absolute, I dunno how each person relates to their Creator.)
I must love, acknowledge, recognize God in all that is around me.
I talk with Him...laugh to Him...thank Him...I have a personal relationship with Him.
I know beyond any shadow of a doubt He adores me as any Father.
In fact there is a story Jesus tells to give an example to us...goes something like :
If you ask your earthly father for bread would he give you a stone?
No.
So imagine what your heavenly Father would give you with all of His riches.
In James it says, You do not have because you do not ask.
If a person has any concept, for whatever reason, that we
are here to not be happy...this will stop the flow of your prayers
being answered.
How does a person understand what God wants for them?
How does one begin to know the Mind of God?
How do they begin to know that all He wants for anyone is pure happiness and abundance, health and joy...
and finally to merge with who they really are...to come Home to
Heaven...to Him where He dwells...where we are destined to be?
Well, I can only say what I did a few years ago when my life took
to a new direction after reading Jeremiah 9 something...
'..know and understand me. So saith the Lord." What? You mean we can?!Huh?
...and that was research; in the Gita, the Bible, the mystics, the Sikh poets, the Catholic saints, the
yogis and teachers, and then...
practicing a few things.
Take one maybe 3 things a Master has said to do...that you
will notice no one actually does, ha, lol...
I can say what 'I did' one day looking up from what I was reading,
for the first time in 2006...it was realizing a theme that Jesus was saying...:sign13:
The recurring theme was:
Do not worry.
Give me your burdens
Seek the Kingdom of Heaven first
Cast your cares....and so on
Be not afraid
Be anxious for nothing, but in prayer...Phil 4:6
Believe
Take 2 of those and practice them 100% for 2 weeks...see what happens.
More later, I guess....for those that are interested..even if it's one person!
Miss Hepburn
30-12-2015, 07:53 PM
Great experience, Tobi.
Thank you.
Hi Sarian, bet you got some snow finally! Haha, thought of you. :wink:
knightofalbion
30-12-2015, 08:29 PM
Prayer, yes, it's wonderful. A source of strength and comfort and hope.
Dear Miss H, spreader of joy and happiness! May your wisdom find its mark.
Belle
30-12-2015, 09:06 PM
I find this so interesting as it I'm so conscious of my unconscious. I'm aware of a raging resistance and I can't put my finger on the nub of it.
Why, in my unconscious, do I choose a lesser path? Sure, I have a good enough job and good enough life but there is so much more waiting there and I know I'm resisting. It drives me potty.
Miss Hepburn
31-12-2015, 12:04 AM
I find this so interesting as it I'm so conscious of my unconscious.
I'm aware of a raging resistance and I can't put my finger on the nub of it.
I wonder myself...I think there can be many reasons...a therapist
could ask you the right questions, hopefully, to help you discover why.
Just know it is not 'you' keeping you from more...it is the egoic mind...that is it's job!
(Christians call it satan or the devil.)
The 'real you' wants you to have limitless, boundless joy....all the time.
It's bag of tricks to keep you from that is any kind of a 100 distractions...laziness, anger,
jealousy, pride, indignation, worry...anything to keep you from the true happiness that is inside
you when your mind is still and peaceful enough to feel it.
Our family dynamics can be a source of all sorts of programming.
Like the way our mother reacted to things or things she said....
Example: "Money doesn't grow on trees".
So our unconscious gets programmed with the belief we have to
work hard for money.
"You're so silly." So, we devalue our creativity....and so on.
See what I mean? The answer is always in us...somewhere,
then, we have to RE-program our minds....
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough. And doggone it people like me."
-Stuart Smalley, LOL! :tongue:
Hi there, Knight! :smile:
TheGlow
31-12-2015, 12:37 AM
For anyone interested in how I have all my prayers answered and
things manifest and appear and come all the time....things
people can't even believe...I myself drop my mouth...
But mainly how 'He' hears all my thoughts and loves me that much ... :hug3:
If I repeat myself, excuse me...I glanced back at my first post...it's too much to remember not to repeat something. Lol!
I'm going to say what 'works for me'...
To me this is a must, to others they might say it is not.
I will say 'I' instead of 'You must'...I must keep a direct connection with
God (replace another word there, Lord, Krishna, the Absolute, I dunno how each person relates to their Creator.)
I must love, acknowledge, recognize God in all that is around me.
I talk with Him...laugh to Him...thank Him...I have a personal relationship with Him.
I know beyond any shadow of a doubt He adores me as any Father.
In fact there is a story Jesus tells to give an example to us...goes something like :
If you ask your earthly father for bread would he give you a stone?
No.
So imagine what your heavenly Father would give you with all of His riches.
In James it says, You do not have because you do not ask.
If a person has any concept, for whatever reason, that we
are here to not be happy...this will stop the flow of your prayers
being answered.
How does a person understand what God wants for them?
How does one begin to know the Mind of God?
How do they begin to know that all He wants for anyone is pure happiness and abundance, health and joy...
and finally to merge with who they really are...to come Home to
Heaven...to Him where He dwells...where we are destined to be?
Well, I can only say what I did a few years ago when my life took
to a new direction after reading Jeremiah 9 something...
'..know and understand me. So saith the Lord." What? You mean we can?!Huh?
...and that was research; in the Gita, the Bible, the mystics, the Sikh poets, the Catholic saints, the
yogis and teachers, and then...
practicing a few things.
Take one maybe 3 things a Master has said to do...that you
will notice no one actually does, ha, lol...
I can say what 'I did' one day looking up from what I was reading,
for the first time in 2006...it was realizing a theme that Jesus was saying...:sign13:
The recurring theme was:
Do not worry.
Give me your burdens
Seek the Kingdom of Heaven first
Cast your cares....and so on
Be not afraid
Be anxious for nothing, but in prayer...Phil 4:6
Believe
Take 2 of those and practice them 100% for 2 weeks...see what happens.
More later, I guess....for those that are interested..even if it's one person!
Good stuff!
Moonglow
31-12-2015, 12:39 AM
Hi Miss Hepburn,
Just popping in to say enjoy what you present.
Two things come to mind at the moment.
To have no doubt. This to me is so important. For if something is sent out with doubt, then what is doubted by me, will also be doubted by God or whoever takes the message.:smile: So, I see it.
It's like saying "I'm not sure I'm worthy" Lacks faith, don't you think?
Another, thought is wanting to control things. If "let go and let God", this to me can be at times a little scary. Again, could be a faith thing, a trust thing. To believe in oneself and ones own abilities and gifts can be a challenge for me at times. Work in progress.
So, thanks for the words of encouragement.:smile:
btw.lol, on the Stuart Smalley quote
Miss Hepburn
31-12-2015, 12:57 PM
Take up one idea.
Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it,
live on that idea.
Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body,
be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone.
This is the way to success. (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .brainyquote.com%252Fquotes%252Fquotes%252Fs%252Fs wamivivek213397.html)
-Swami Vivekananda (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .brainyquote.com%252Fquotes%252Fquotes%252Fs%252Fs wamivivek213397.html)
Haha, can't get rid of the underlining.
Sarian
31-12-2015, 01:39 PM
I wonder myself...I think there can be many reasons...a therapist
could ask you the right questions, hopefully, to help you discover why.
Just know it is not 'you' keeping you from more...it is the egoic mind...that is it's job!
(Christians call it satan or the devil.)
The 'real you' wants you to have limitless, boundless joy....all the time.
It's bag of tricks to keep you from that is any kind of a 100 distractions...laziness, anger,
jealousy, pride, indignation, worry...anything to keep you from the true happiness that is inside
you when your mind is still and peaceful enough to feel it.
Our family dynamics can be a source of all sorts of programming.
Like the way our mother reacted to things or things she said....
Example: "Money doesn't grow on trees".
So our unconscious gets programmed with the belief we have to
work hard for money.
"You're so silly." So, we devalue our creativity....and so on.
See what I mean? The answer is always in us...somewhere,
then, we have to RE-program our minds....
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough. And doggone it people like me."
-Stuart Smalley, LOL! :tongue:
Hi there, Knight! :smile:
Just the other day I heard someone who was extremely religious and he was saying that he was nothing special because in the eye of the lord, he was nothing but a filthy rag. ??? I've heard that SO many times growing up by others or people in the pulpit telling the congregation that very thing. Makes me think of the damage done.
I used to think of myself lowly and a misfit and one day I actually realized I liked myself very much and loved who I am! Things started changing FAST.
I love this thread and all that I've been reading of yours. I've got something going on next week that can get me all in knots but that challenge you posted on the first page, I think...get at least three, I'm working that one LOL
(I got a little bit of snow just before I got the snow tires on....but mostly I was freezing rain! Some areas got a bit!)
Miss Hepburn
31-12-2015, 01:39 PM
To have no doubt. This to me is so important. For if something is sent out with doubt, then what is doubted by me,
will also be doubted by God or whoever takes the message....
Yes, I follow your thinking. :smile:
Did you know it says in James or Peter...A double minded man can expect nothing...lol.....paraphrase.
So here were are, "Lord, would you help me land this great job?
Thank you. Amen."
While our thoughts fork off in another direction, "I'll never get this job there are 150 applicants interviewing!":icon_frown:
We are sending unclear, confusing messages out...so what happens?
Nothing...it's as if the angels' hands are tied...
we just blocked the whole flow.
It's like saying "I'm not sure I'm worthy"
Lacks faith, don't you think?
If "let go and let God", this to me can be at times a little scary.
Again, could be a faith thing, a trust thing.
To believe in oneself and ones own abilities and gifts can be a challenge for me at times. Couple things here, if I may. :smile:
I'm not worthy...this lacks knowledge.
We must know who we are. (''Ye are Gods!'')
If a person is a Christian, for example, he must know he has just inherited Jesus' last Will and Testament...as in,
he is an heir in Christ, as it says.
And what does an heir have to do?
Go to the attorney's office, reach out his hand and now accept or
take his gift of the inheritance freely given to him out of simple/pure/uncomplicated love.
If a person thinks to ''let God'...that is excellent!
However, there is a catch...hahahaha ! :tongue:
You must know what God's Will is.
This is not a place to speculate, guess or project any
human made up ideas from the fearful, treacherous lower ego thoughts.
You must know what it is He wants, His intentions, and very Nature of Him...you must know His Mind.
That being, He wants to shower you with all things good....if you can accept His Love...
there is no 'punishment' or huge trials that are not of each person's own design.
(God is not a 'He', of course.)
As far as 'one's abilities'...you have none. :tongue:
Every single solitary thing that you are is only because of
God, this Being that is breathing you right now and growing your fingernails as you sleep and go throughout your day.
(If anyone felt a little uppity or indignation from that sentence...
welcome, you have just met the ego mind.)
All the strength that you have within you is because of 'Him'.
When one recognizes this...the power, the confidence the clarity, the peace and
love that infills your being is Him...
the Creator, our Source....ego steps aside, self identification of
this 'self' and limited personality that struggles and has
to work hard to achieve whatever it is
now has a new Captain at the helm.
Scary..?.. only to the ego...there is no fear of any kind in God, the Holy Spirit, your Higher True Self...or
the indwelling Spirit of God within each of us.
Aaaand, this is the point or the Goal...to become aware of what already is...the Divine in us.
Miss Hepburn
31-12-2015, 01:43 PM
Hahaha, Sarian....I laugh :tongue:...one time I sat with a Christian friend in my yard...
he spouted that nonsense that he was a 'filthy rag'...(Is 64:6)
I laughed and said,
"Awww, that's too bad...because I'm a princess...
the daughter of a King." :hug3:
Sarian
31-12-2015, 02:34 PM
Good one, MH.
I actually feel like I'm in a class in some ways and getting all A's or close to it. lol. I remember taking Anatomy & Physiology in College and I thought this it too daunting and hard but I challenged myself and the A's started rolling in. With every A I got I was jolted off my seat with joy. Now I'm feeling that same joy with everything that comes.
I went for a walk/jog/run the other day and I was just filling myself up with positives and thankfulness and then I was struck down. I mean I literally fell down in a weeping heap but it was joy. I was totally consumed with joy and thankfulness to the point it stopped me in my tracks. I got very emotional. lol
....and I loved it.
Clover
31-12-2015, 02:39 PM
Refreshing post, Miss. H. :hello:
Good one, MH.
I went for a walk/jog/run the other day and I was just filling myself up with positives and thankfulness and then I was struck down. I mean I literally fell down in a weeping heap but it was joy. I was totally consumed with joy and thankfulness to the point it stopped me in my tracks. I got very emotional. lol
....and I loved it.
Ah how wonderful. Running is a powerful experience on it's own. I can see how that it can happen. :smile:
kralaro
31-12-2015, 07:37 PM
Miss Hepburn, you must have typed all this yourself, right? Why did you make the effort instead of praying to God to type this all for you?
"can't get rid of the underlining"
Why didn't you pray to God to remove the underlining for you?
Regarding understanding God:
God is the controller of maya, right? Why is he influencing my thinking with his maya? I want to be free from maya.
"If you ask your earthly father for bread would he give you a stone?"
Do earthly fathers tie their children with ropes? Why has God tied me with maya?
Miss Hepburn
31-12-2015, 07:45 PM
... I was just filling myself up with positives and thankfulness and then I was struck down.
I mean I literally fell down in a weeping heap but it was joy.
I was totally consumed with joy and thankfulness to the point it stopped me in my tracks.
I got very emotional. lol
....and I loved it.
Consumed with Joy and Thankfulness :hug3:
I swear it is The Quickening.
Miss Hepburn
31-12-2015, 08:09 PM
Regarding understanding God:
God is the controller of maya, right? Why is he influencing my thinking with his maya?
I want to be free from maya.
"If you ask your earthly father for bread would he give you a stone?"
Do earthly fathers tie their children with ropes?
Why has God tied me with maya?God the controller of maya...
You know, in all the scriptures and all the books I have
read I have never heard that phrase written by anyone.
You are missing a key word in "If you ask your earthly father..." Matt 7:9
What do you think the key word is?
I personally do not think God is the controller of maya,
(or this illusion or dream, for those that are not totally familiar with that word.)
Say, I deliberately drive into a tree...I dunno, maybe I want insurance money...was God in control of that? No.
Was God in control of the thought that made me think to do it? No.
Ha, was God even in control of me needing more money? :tongue:
As far as to 'why' has God tied you to maya...there is much more to understand.
Who is tied...who is untied...who is actually doing the tying?
Why is there even maya or this 3D creation at all?
Why is there individuation at ALL!?
Why didn't this Superior Being, Brahman, Atman stay alone and singular in the Void?
So many questions to be answered and contemplated.
And the answers are all inside you...reading Meher Baba, Adyashanti,
Gangaji, Ramana Maharshi, Nigsargadatta
and many other yogis that have spent many years in deep meditation would be helpful. :icon_study:
ArtisticAthlete
31-12-2015, 11:58 PM
Hi Miss H,
Thank you for starting this thread! It's been really helpful...
I have a few questions: how do we phrase our "wants"? You've been really successful when it comes to manifesting-- is there a specific way you state things?
I know you've suggested we state what we want out loud, but the only phrase I can think of is "God give me _____." but that sounds a bit pushy. Lol. I also know we're supposed to state things as if it's already happened, so I was just wondering if you could share your maniesting wisdom with us? Which phrase do you consider the most powerful?
Thank you for your help!
Miss Hepburn
01-01-2016, 12:38 AM
I know you've suggested we state what we want out loud, but the only phrase I
can think of is "God give me _____." but that sounds a bit pushy. Lol.
I also know we're supposed to state things as if it's already happened, so .... which phrase do you consider the most powerful. You know...no way is ever 'wrong', exactly.
BUT, have you ever heard the voice of Paramahansa Yogananda?
Whoa...he demands....commands....what it is he wants. I mean ...
it is quite shocking.
One thing is ...never be wishy washy, haha.
Always be simple, clear and direct.
~~~~~~~~~~~~`
"I need this job by Friday. So Be It. Thank you."
"I am getting this job Friday."
"This job is mine by Friday."
Say all THREE! I do...write it out...burn it as you are
saying all 3 again!
That was quite amazing one time! (Against seemingly impossible odds!)
TELL the Universe, your guides, your angels, God Himself...
"This is what I need...this is going to happen by next year....I AM moving
successfully to NY. That's it, done deal...So Be It."
~~~~~~
One time I simply 'thought', maybe I did a little whisper...because I was near the ICU desk...
"Heal her....top to bottom....totally and completely...
none of this vegetable stuff. Thank you....So Be it...amen."
With a powerful sweep of my hand...I remember the moment ...I was VERY direct talking to the Holy Spirit and no one else.
As you may know, this dying , brain dead person, on machines keeping her alive, in a coma woman ...was
sitting, smiling and talking... off all machines the next morning.
She is still fine....because that was what I demanded ( asked? sorta)
Total recovery.
(I was asked to do this.)
~~~~~~~~~~~
It is very imp to understand what Jesus explained..."Say to this mountain..."
He didn't say...ask the Father to move the mountain...he didn't say ...Imagine the mountain moved and have positive thoughts.
The main message was ...'say to'...and it will be done. See?
So... power ...the power of conviction is very important.
But how can you have conviction if you don't know your position in the Universe.
With all the 'we a sinners' rhetoric...it's a wonder we can brush our teeth with confidence....let alone
accept the statement like, Ye are Gods!
"Oh Lord, Please cure my mom of cancer."
Is that wrong? No. Does it work sometimes, yes.
Is it more powerful to talk directly to the cancer and say , "GO!...
Leave her....NOW!" I think so. :smile:
"Say to the mountain...."
~~~~~~~~
Now did the Creator think or ask with positivity, lol...'Hmm, Light...
I think Light would be great.' No....He said,
"Let there Be Light!!" Voila....and what was it backed with ?
Complete conviction, power and belief and 100% faith.
We are made in His image...this is very imp to understand and get.
:smile: Good question!
Miss Hepburn
01-01-2016, 12:46 AM
Ok, but, now I have to add...once you are in love with God...and
you have an ongoing conversation with Him ...you two are like 'this'...:hug:
You can just think something...
and He will present it in front of you within the hour or less....
'impossible things'....wild things...crazy, esoteric things.
"Gosh, it would be nice to have coconut ice cream."
And a friend will come over paying you the money they owe
or dropping off your dog...
with a quart of Coconut ice cream....this is what I mean.
It becomes natural...you see that there is really nothing
'supernatural' anymore. :smile:
All this is One Divine Being, One Mind experiencing Itself....we are just individuations of the Whole.
ArtisticAthlete
01-01-2016, 01:26 AM
Great, informative response! Thank you. :)
kralaro
01-01-2016, 05:09 AM
Thank you for replying to me.
Background 1:
The primary reason I'm conversing with you over these topics is because I want to:
1. Converse with the supreme controller right now.
2. Become free from influence of maya right now.
If I get these two then my following conversation may be unnecessary.
By maya I mean lust, anger etc.
Background 2:
I've noticed that some people consider arguing as bad; I don't. I'm a fan of arguing and like to argue with people from whom I think I can learn.
Now,
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About God being controller of maya:
Prabhupada's quote : Source
"Although māyā is false or temporary, the background of māyā is the supreme magician, the Personality of Godhead, who is Maheśvara, the supreme controller." : http://asitis.com/7/14.html
"Kṛṣṇa, being the Lord of illusory energy, can order this insurmountable energy to release the conditioned soul." : http://asitis.com/7/14.html
"Supreme Lord is the controller of māyā" : http://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/4/28/62
etc.
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Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad 4.10:
"Know then that Prakriti (nature) is Maya, and the great God is the Lord of Maya. This whole world is pervaded by beings who are His parts."
(Source: sivanandaonline.org/public_html/?cmd=displaysection§ion_id=590 )
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You are missing a key word in [I]"If you ask your earthly father..." Matt 7:9
What do you think the key word is?
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I think you're pointing to "ask". I'm not sure what you're saying here.
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"Heal her....top to bottom....totally and completely...
none of this vegetable stuff. Thank you....So Be it...amen."
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Why only her? How about you doing this right now for every being on Earth? There was a time in my life when I had power of words and thoughts that I could shape future (mine and others') just by thinking how I want things to be but actually I was just thinking how I want, it was a greater controller who was doing the work. I don't know that at that time why didn't I acquire greater things. I don't know that at that time why did I use my power just to acquire and give small toys (metaphorically) instead of things that matter more. My power was giving 100% results. Maybe if someone would have suggested me then I would have been more ambitious. I don't know what reply I would have given if someone would have suggested me. So that's what I'm doing with you. How about healing everyone right now? Or how about asking God to answer your questions right now (if you've any)? Or how about asking God to make you omniscient right now? Like that.
Belle
01-01-2016, 10:24 AM
I have moments when I can align myself with the highest. When I truly believe and want the highest things. I was in my little 2-bed rented flat and I felt myself in a large warm and cosy and airy house. i couldn't see it, i felt it. And I knew I deserved it.
Interestingly enough, there was no sense of "entitlement" behind it.
Anyways. This space felt good. It felt calm and peaceful.
Miss Hepburn
01-01-2016, 05:31 PM
Thank you for replying to me.
Background 1:
The primary reason I'm conversing with you over these topics is because I want to:
1. Converse with the supreme controller right now.
2. Become free from influence of maya right now.
If I get these two then my following conversation may be unnecessary.
By maya I mean lust, anger etc.
Background 2:
I've noticed that some people consider arguing as bad; I don't.
I'm a fan of arguing and like to argue with people from whom I think I can learn.
That is much more specific, kralaro, thank you, it helps me understand better. :smile:
How wonderful to want # 1 and #2!
It would be incredible if everyone wanted these 2 things!
Consciously seeking and deliberately applying themselves to these 2! :angel3:
Arguing is not cool.
Discussing and asking questions is very cool.
About God being controller of maya:
Prabhupada's quote:
"Although māyā [illusion] is false or temporary, the background of māyā is
the supreme magician, the Personality of Godhead...
"Supreme Lord is the controller of māyā".
Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad 4.10:
"Know then that... (nature) is Maya, and the great God is the Lord of Maya.
This whole world is pervaded by beings who are His parts."
Very good. I would explain it this way.
The Lord Supreme decides Himself when to 'step in'.
So though He has control...He does not control.
It could be compared to the landlord/renter relationship.
He owns the property, but it is leased to the renter...by law He is not allowed
to simply come in the front door...however,
if the renter invited the Landlord in...then He can enter.
Creation is like the Supreme One throwing dice and seeing how they fall.
Or a child that has an ant farm with glass walls, right?
He doesn't interfere...he watches and learns.
He may even introduce 'problems' to watch them figure out the solution.
What fun would it be if we were simply puppets or robots...He was brilliant
in giving us free will.
I think you're pointing to "ask".
I'm not sure what you're saying here.Yes, 'ask'.
Why only her? How about you doing this right now for every being on Earth? If I had a dime for every time someone asks that! :biggrin:
I will counter that to you, kralaro...Why do you not?
And there you have it.
There was a time in my life when I had power of words and thoughts that I could shape future (mine and others')
just by thinking how I want things to be but actually I was just thinking how I want,
it was a greater controller who was doing the work.
I don't know that at that time why didn't I acquire greater things.
I don't know that at that time why did I use my power just to acquire and give small toys (metaphorically) instead of things that matter more. My power was giving 100% results.
Maybe if someone would have suggested me then I would have been more ambitious.
I don't know what reply I would have given if someone would have suggested me.
So that's what I'm doing with you.
How about healing everyone right now?
Or how about asking God to answer your questions right now (if you've any)?
Or how about asking God to make you omniscient right now? Like that. I see. I can respect that. It doesn't sound confrontational when you
explain it that way.
I will answer that this way, I suppose...I'm no saint...I do what I do.
When I am asked, and I am often to help with things I always do.
Being asked is big; there is an openness in the person...a belief and a need.
I know of a class in Denver on healing...based on John G. Lake from the 1940's? After awhile they are sent
to Walmart parking lots or something.
When they see someone limping or in a wheelchair they (my friend did this) go to the person gently and ask,
"I see you are in a wheelchair, Would you mind if I (or would you allow me or something) to pray for you."
Apparently, this doesn't put people off...They actually say, Sure, Yes, Yeah, go ahead! Haha.
Is this something I am compelled to do...no.
I am no Kathryn Kuhlman...not yet, anyway.
Is it my mission or path to become a public speaker like Smith Wigglesworth healing people under tents left and right?
Not yet, anyway.
kralaro
01-01-2016, 10:23 PM
Thank you Miss Hepburn for your kind words and the reply.
Very good. I would explain it this way.
The Lord Supreme decides Himself when to 'step in'.
So though He has control...He does not control.
It could be compared to the landlord/renter relationship.
He owns the property, but it is leased to the renter...by law He is not allowed
to simply come in the front door...however,
if the renter invited the Landlord in...then He can enter.I'm thinking that it may be true. I love it when anyone shows me a different perspective like you did, that's why I like to argue, but I also get that you said "Arguing is not cool".
Why do you not?Right now I don't think I have the power. When I had the power of words & thoughts, I don't know why at that time I didn't manifest greater things, maybe I used to feel that my power is limited.
When I had the power, someone asked me to manifest something for her and I just declared in front of her that it would happen and it did. If she wouldn't have asked me then she may have missed what she wanted. Now I want to utilize the possible opportunity: In James it says, You do not have because you do not ask.Yes, 'ask'.I ask you Miss Hepburn, please give me these two:
1. I converse with the supreme controller right now.
2. I become free from influence of maya right now.
Miss Hepburn
01-01-2016, 10:49 PM
Now I want to utilize the possible opportunity:
I ask you Miss Hepburn, please give me these two:
1. I converse with the supreme controller right now.
2. I become free from influence of maya right now. Haha....don't ask ME, silly!
And I think you are confusing the word argue with simply asking questions...debate possibly...
a back and forth discussion.
One thing for you to remember and plant this in your mind, so your
subconscious mind can really get it at it's core...where it becomes simply unshakeable ....
You can be and do anything you want.
You can reach or go to any place in this creation of many dimensions.
You can feel the depths and the heights and the breadth of love and wisdom...it is all there for you.
Everything you have ever wanted or dreamed of is there ...now.
Any limitations you place on yourself at any given second..have been placed there only by you.
They are paper chains, my spiritual buddy....paper chains...
complete illusions.
Still your mind...become aware of Reality...all around you and in you.
Do what it takes to be who you really are. :wink:
And thank you for being you, giving me this opportunity to
talk to another beautiful soul, not into this Maya...you probably know how rare this is.
Miss Hepburn
04-01-2016, 01:45 PM
Well, I'm still getting private messages regarding prayer and getting
prayers answered.
That's ok :smile:...maybe they don't see this thread or want to keep private...
But , it means I type things again.
Some advice...
There is a saying ... A cup that is filled with something ...can not be filled again with something else.
A cup has to be empty to be filled...is the point.
SO...if we are filled, if our cup is filled with anxiety or begging or
depression over our lack....well, that cup is already full.
Ask, believe, receive....I would add ...be still, patient and know
your prayer is being answered.
Example: You pick up the phone and tell your broker to "Sell" your stock.
At that moment, your stock is sold....you have your money, it is a done deal. Ok?
BUT, is the $$ actually in your hands...not yet...there is a process
before it actually is deposited in your account...and you go
to the bank to get it in your hot little hands!
BUT, the moment you said 'Sell"...it was yours and on it's way to you.
I hope that makes sense to you...this is why Jesus said...Believe you have already received it.
Because you have ...it may take a bit before it works it's way into the material from the spiritual realms.
Maybe this could help some people...this is one of the most powerful statements in the Bible, in my opinion.
"This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we
ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
And if we know that he hears us - whatever we ask - we know
that we have what we asked of him."
-1 John 5:14-15
:icon_cheers:
According to His will means...we don't ask to be successful in robbing a bank, ok?...hahahaha!
knightofalbion
04-01-2016, 01:48 PM
Hee, hee! You've started something with this thread, dear Miss H!
The demand for instant gratification!
No wonder God is a recluse!
Miss Hepburn
04-01-2016, 01:56 PM
The demand for instant gratification!
Hahah...you know...after awhile...you don't even need to pray.
Think it...and there it is!
I don't think this happens overnight, however...I'm dunno. :tongue:
knightofalbion
04-01-2016, 02:05 PM
Hahah...you know...after awhile...you don't even need to pray.
Think it...and there it is!
I don't think this happens overnight, however...I'm dunno. :tongue:
I'm going to post you all my utility bills!
knightofalbion
04-01-2016, 02:10 PM
Seriously, Spirit knows what we want - and what we need. The pull of the heart, as you might say, will attract whatever one is longing for, though perhaps not always in the guise expected ...
Miss Hepburn
04-01-2016, 07:04 PM
I'm going to post you all my utility bills!
You know, I never asked...but always 'knew' I would never be
burdened by my 'pesty' mortgage....each month as the economy
went into a slump (I am self employed)...I never had any worry
or doubt that my Heavenly Father would take of things, paying
my $1000 each month...and then,
one day, someone gave me $100,000 to pay off my mortgage. No strings.
Was I surprised...No.
I was hugely grateful and happy, though.
This is what I would love to get across to people...believe, have no doubt.
Trust and 100% rely on God, the Universe, Source or Krishna...whatever Name. But! it can't be 98%.
:wink:
Belle
04-01-2016, 08:04 PM
I love this thread. Something changed within me. I found my higher self, my soul, whatever you want to call it and there was that moment when I thought "it's you" as I realised I had met myself. I had the sense of potential, of opportunity.
What I don't have is the sense of "unlimited" in terms of potential, opportunity, abundance or anything. For example, I am pathologically lazy. I could happily spend all day every day in my PJs. And not leave my flat. Should I win the lotto, I would have £££££££ but would probably pile on lbs and lbs as I ordered pizza and ate nachos and cheese and pontificated in my flat.
Your $100k windfall from a friend is a case in point. It was sufficient for you to pay off the mortgage and not worry but you still have to work.
That sort of windfall for me, would be fantastic but a lotto win, no. It's about what is best for the individual. Some people would thrive with a lotto win and do all sorts of great things.
I have a talent as a secretary. I'm not the greatest that has ever walked the street as a secretary but I'm pretty good. I enjoy it. I enjoy the office banter (mostly).
I would like to work part time to have more time to myself - there is part of me that wants unlimited abundance but I don't think that's my highest ideal. Does that make sense, to ask for a limited abundance? To have the opportunity to work part time for fantastic people who make me flourish and that the work sets me free to really stretch my wings and fly?
Moonglow
04-01-2016, 10:27 PM
Hello,
Nice to enter a thread with such positive energy.
Further expressing some thoughts here.
Patience is a big one. Some things just take time to work out and the key for me is not to give up.
Sometimes though will get "Well what are you going to do about?" At which time it is up to me to do the work.
Prayer for me refocuses the ol' brain box to be creative and take notice of what is offered and what can be used.
Interesting that may not get what I thought I wanted, but get what I need. So, prayer helps in focusing in on what's important and the Spirits guide and not so much on petty wants that seem to pass on by anyways.
It connects with being of God and/or Creator or whatever that moves life along.:smile:
Miss Hepburn
05-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Great post you guys...thank you. :hug3:
Yes, prayer helps us focus.
I am still a believer in boundless, unlimited, over flowing abundance
(I ref John 10:10).
Not in physical only...but in happiness and knowledge....wisdom and love...success in all
aspects of our beings.
I depends on what you want.
I do believe that is why Jesus came, as he said when asked,
to show us...Look I am pure light as bright as the sun....to James,
John and Peter....the Transfiguration as it is called....raising the dead including himself, materializing
fish and wine out of water...nothing is what it seems!
See? Water isn't even water...nothing is what it appears...you can even
walk on it...
and your belief
is the power that will take you to all the secrets and powers of creation.
Why should anyone be limited spiritually...thinking the mysteries
of the universe are only for a few yogis and gurus from the East?
Why?
If the fervor of your desire and the pointedness of your mind is laser focused on that which
you desire...you can have a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g.
And it says it in Psalm 37:4...how? This is a key...
"Delight in the Lord and He will give you the desires of your heart."
Period.
kralaro
05-01-2016, 06:37 PM
And thank you for being you, giving me this opportunity to
talk to another beautiful soul, not into this Maya...you probably know how rare this is.Thanks :) You're like my mother. Also thanks for the suggestions in the post.
Haha....don't ask ME, silly!What can I do, your these words inspired me to ask you:When I am asked, and I am often to help with things I always do.
Being asked is big; there is an openness in the person...a belief and a need.These words are looking to me as if you're hinting me to ask you :D
You gave the coconut ice cream example, but I doubt that if you ask God to give you coconut ice cream right now within 10 seconds then if your prayer would be answered, or asking God for a basketball sized diamond ball within a minute. My this doubt is strengthened seeing that you've been ignoring my similar questions on this thread. I do believe that you've experienced your prayers getting answered, but maybe your those answered prayers required less/lesser miracle.
naturesflow
05-01-2016, 09:17 PM
You gave the coconut ice cream example, but I doubt that if you ask God to give you coconut ice cream right now within 10 seconds then if your prayer would be answered, or asking God for a basketball sized diamond ball within a minute. My this doubt is strengthened seeing that you've been ignoring my similar questions on this thread. I do believe that you've experienced your prayers getting answered, but maybe your those answered prayers required less/lesser miracle.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to interrupt your flow with Miss H, but I felt inspired by both your curiosity and asking to explore deeper this experience shared by another and to share some of my own thoughts here.
Manifestation of your reality in the way described by Miss H is really about how the flow of life can be as you live in harmony with your true nature and life as one source, but their is also the nature of human cycles and suffering that is very real and plays out as one with all we might break free from and live by in our own reality. You become what you are and you receive and give what you are as an individual, but also as the greater reality is as one source, so your life becomes part of a greater process.
If we look at the lives of those who have suffered greatly in our world who in their suffering have overcome much adversity, this reveals to me the purpose of life beyond just manifesting all that we want that make us feel happy, we manifest it all into being as we are as humans in everyway. The world shows us this view. In what I receive as my own individual piece and what I create, the consideration of all this in myself becomes part of the receiving. Nothing is left out. So as I may open and see wonderful things for myself, its important to remember it is an inclusive state for all beings together in this way. It will naturally seek to share itself with others in this way as you are.
SO as an example, what you have to experience and myself is unavoidable. Our journey and process will be what it will be. The path although not set, is a difficult one to change immediately, because we land into the hands of others that is already their created reality, already, set and programmed one way or another through our role models. So immediately this sets in motion a life and process that we can break free from, but often the whole process serves the whole anyway to understand, enrich and deepen our awareness of all life and how life can be. SO the whole process does become somewhat an unfolding through a whole host of connections. There is no one way through so each process is unique to the life itself.
When you start to see and *Feel* the change of receiving what you need in positive ways and more abundantly, meaning, when I ask I receive and manifest things faster, you tend to think it is something profound and new and magical. Yet it is simply showing you the shifting cycles, what has always been, that you have awakened and opened in yourself and are now creating, more intently with awareness of yourself in this way. Yet when you can look back at your life through suffering or pain, the down times, it was always there, just we couldn't see that it was or feel it in self. Even as I didn't ask and was trapped in conditioning and fears the joy and love was their in me, but my pain body took over, but it was all there, because we are it, I was receiving as I was, as I believed and was conditioned in believing I was and couldn't see past that over riding conditioned state. But as I shared, it was all there, as I was created, but I couldn't access it while my other process was in its cycle of learning. It was unavoidable and I had to walk it all through to change the whole in myself.
So fast forward to miracles and prayer, you have what is a changing view of yourself as you let go of your old conditioned ways in every way you are. You begin to see yourself attract life in new ways, compared to the old way where you may not have felt the same way or viewed life in this way.
The miracle and prayer is you yourself. Changing and moving through a process, a whole process. You become what you are, so if you believe its prayer creating this in this moment then it is. But it is not prayer alone, it is you and what you are and what you are using to bring to you. If you are in the cycle of opening deeper to receiving and opening deeper in feeling to this space then you will enter this cycle when your ready. Their is process within the readiness, so receiving ice creams for one might be receiving a heartbreak for another. Its not the thing that you receive that builds the awareness, it is the feelings you are awakening and opening too that is the important aspect of you being both in yourself. We receive on both sides of life in everyway.
It has always been this way and like all life it balances out as we integrate the extremes in ourselves.
The opening in ways where we are learning to receive can be quiet profound as I learned. The surface receiving came with some deeper levels of understanding and awareness and letting go. So even as we might receive the little things, the bigger things, with this comes a level of personal responsibility to become aware of all life as it is, as it is in process and as it can be in sameness and differences together.
We are what we co create and your are unique to what you ask for and receive and need.
I feel its important to be aware of this even as I might believe what can be.
We each have a process and journey that we do have to walk through, to build deeper and continual ongoing awareness of all life.
We are in this together as a shared greater space one with all the little things are the bigger things. So how we receive is really about the whole in us in everyway.
We can be the miracle that life created us to be, but we also have a life that life creates in us to be aware of as part of that miracle in all life that may still be in a process not as we are. In this way no amount of prayer will change process but the one walking through their own process and becoming the prayer in themselves.
Miss Hepburn
06-01-2016, 02:45 PM
Kralaro...ask me again....what are the ques I am not answering?
Sorry.
Miss Hepburn
06-01-2016, 06:52 PM
More to understand about prayers
and God..from an ongoing conversation
I am having elsewhere...edited to fit here.
We must have the insight within ourselves
that God is not to blame for anything, first...before expecting
His Presence.
This may be hard for some to understand...but God comes to those
that make a place for Him in their hearts...:love9:
This is why the Holy Spirit in the New Testament is depicted symbolically as a dove.
Unlike other birds or it's cousin the pigeon...
it is the shyest of animals.
Picture a city building with pigeons on the stone window sill outside...you could come right
up to the closed window and shout...and they would stay there.
One glimpse of you in the room and a dove flies away.
God is a lover...'He' adores you and wants the very best for you...situations are
in your life because you have attracted them to you...we all do....unconsciously**...all these things are our doing.
Or in a previous life we agreed to have this hardship for a reason.
God is nothing but pure love.
If He is invited...He is a Guest as Spirit in our hearts... or when He visits us in meditation or in a room...
And like a guest or a girlfriend that you want to come to visit...
you must set up a space...flowers, clean sheets and towels...you know...
she must be welcomed with love.
Same with God...our cup must be empty for the direct communication
you wish for.
Prepare the heart for this Guest.
** This is why it is very important to consciously control our thoughts...
what we think and believe is what is drawn to us.
God is never to blame.
kralaro
06-01-2016, 10:49 PM
Thank you Naturesflow for your post, I read it completely but I couldn't understand it.
kralaro
06-01-2016, 10:51 PM
Kralaro...ask me again....what are the ques I am not answering?
Sorry.It's okay :) these questions:
"Why didn't you pray to God to remove the underlining for you?"
"Or how about asking God to answer your questions right now (if you've any)? Or how about asking God to make you omniscient right now? Like that."
========================
Miss Hepburn, do you think that if you ask God for a basketball sized diamond ball within a minute then if your prayer would be fulfilled? I do believe that you've experienced your prayers getting answered, but maybe your those answered prayers required less/lesser miracle.
naturesflow
06-01-2016, 11:52 PM
Thank you Naturesflow for your post, I read it completely but I couldn't understand it.
Understanding is either sought or not.
Going deeper into the nature of what appears to be in/with us right now, often has so much more to explore. If we want to explore deeper of course.
Your welcome, I enjoyed writing it out.
naturesflow
06-01-2016, 11:59 PM
More to understand about prayers
and God..from an ongoing conversation
I am having elsewhere...edited to fit here.
We must have the insight within ourselves
that God is not to blame for anything, first...before expecting
His Presence.
This may be hard for some to understand...but God comes to those
that make a place for Him in their hearts...:love9:
This is why the Holy Spirit in the New Testament is depicted symbolically as a dove.
Unlike other birds or it's cousin the pigeon...
it is the shyest of animals.
Picture a city building with pigeons on the stone window sill outside...you could come right
up to the closed window and shout...and they would stay there.
One glimpse of you in the room and a dove flies away.
God is a lover...'He' adores you and wants the very best for you...situations are
in your life because you have attracted them to you...we all do....unconsciously**...all these things are our doing.
Or in a previous life we agreed to have this hardship for a reason.
God is nothing but pure love.
If He is invited...He is a Guest as Spirit in our hearts... or when He visits us in meditation or in a room...
And like a guest or a girlfriend that you want to come to visit...
you must set up a space...flowers, clean sheets and towels...you know...
she must be welcomed with love.
Same with God...our cup must be empty for the direct communication
you wish for.
Prepare the heart for this Guest.
** This is why it is very important to consciously control our thoughts...
what we think and believe is what is drawn to us.
God is never to blame.
Or perhaps god wants us to acknowledge our thoughts and let go of control? Thoughts will often linger until they are acknowledged in some way.
So if a cup must be empty do you believe that every person in this world can suddenly manifest this emptiness without process in the way you model?
That as you, at your age have come to this realization, through your own process and journey and have reached a point and can suddenly share how it is NOW for you in this way, that took you this long in your life to realize, that all beings can skip process and just be here?
Or do you believe that life is a journey and process unfolding in this life as a manifestation of all life as one, and each ripple that affects the individual consciousness is also affected by the greater consciousness as one source?
And that we are all a vessel in some form serving the whole right where we are in this moment of life as it is?
So even as I may overcome my own adversity or your own and attract to us more of the other side of life beyond painbody, the nature of others lives and their greater inflictions, may still have to walk through process and their journey as they need to be to learn and build their awareness of how it can be in balance of receiving and being more in harmony with life?
Miss Hepburn
07-01-2016, 01:56 AM
It's okay :) these questions:
"Why didn't you pray to God to remove the underlining for you?"
"Or how about asking God to answer your questions right now (if you've any)?
Or how about asking God to make you omniscient right now?
Like that."
========================
Miss Hepburn, do you think that if you ask God for a basketball sized diamond ball within a minute then if your prayer would be fulfilled?
I do believe that you've experienced your prayers getting answered, but maybe your those answered prayers required less/lesser miracle. Oh, I do remember those questions.
All I can say is why would I ask for those?
You ask for them if they are desires of yours.
To an infinite, magnificent Being that has all of creation
within 'Him'...do you think 'He' sees a difference between cancerous tumors
and the perfect white linen blouse for me?
I don't.
What I'm saying is ...lesser or bigger?
A miracle is a miracle.
Are there really miracles, per se...of course, not.
Is the supernatural really supernatural...no.
These are just labels people place on things they don't understand...
don't fit into the scientific brain...yet....and are amazing things.:smile:
kralaro
07-01-2016, 03:13 AM
Miss Hepburn,
Another similar question I forgot to mention which you didn't answer:
"Miss Hepburn, you must have typed all this yourself, right? Why did you make the effort instead of praying to God to type this all for you?"
All I can say is why would I ask for those?You said "can't get rid of the underlining" so from that I understand that you had desire for removing the underlining. How I'm seeing is:
1) You desired something.
2) You didn't ask God to do it.
I'm seeing contradiction between 1) and 2). What's your opinion?
Do you think that suppose if you ask God for a basketball sized diamond ball within a minute then if your prayer would be fulfilled?
Miss Hepburn
07-01-2016, 03:29 AM
Miss Hepburn,
Another similar question I forgot to mention which you didn't answer:
"Miss Hepburn, you must have typed all this yourself, right?
Why did you make the effort instead of praying to God to type this all for you?"
You said "can't get rid of the underlining" so from that I understand that you had desire
for removing the underlining. How I'm seeing is:
1) You desired something.
2) You didn't ask God to do it.
I'm seeing contradiction between 1) and 2). What's your opinion?
Do you think that suppose if you ask God for a basketball sized diamond ball within
a minute then if your prayer would be fulfilled? Kralaro, I love ya...but don't you think these questions are a bit frivolous?
I do...so I am going to move on from them.
I will say...
I suppose one day I could attain the clarity to do what the
Masters of the Far East do...( books by Baird Spaulding)...they
would be in remote places and demonstrate to the British scientists
how, with their minds, they could boil water and food would manifest out of nothing for them to eat.
BUT, it isn't anything I'm personally interested in at the moment.
Parlor tricks.
Right now what I have been asking for
is happening...but that is not for this thread...some things are personal.
naturesflow
07-01-2016, 05:29 AM
Kralaro, I love ya...but don't you think these questions are a bit frivolous?
I do...so I am going to move on from them.
I will say...
I suppose one day I could attain the clarity to do what the
Masters of the Far East do...( books by Baird Spaulding)...they
would be in remote places and demonstrate to the British scientists
how, with their minds, they could boil water and food would manifest out of nothing for them to eat.
BUT, it isn't anything I'm personally interested in at the moment.
Parlor tricks.
Right now what I have been asking for
is happening...but that is not for this thread...some things are personal.
Throughout your explanations you make the complex sound so simple which in turn I feel it leaves open all these gaps that I am questioning through your view, myself, which is why I am asking you what I have asked. YOu haven't responded which is fine, its your choice.
kralaro
07-01-2016, 08:22 AM
Kralaro, I love ya...but don't you think these questions are a bit frivolous?When typing that post, I too thought that my those questions are frivolous but one of the reasons I'm conversing with you because I enjoy conversing with you. When typing that post I thought to put this line (one of the reasons ... conversing with you). Also, I'm getting an opportunity to converse with a person who has connection to God.
I suppose one day I could attain the clarity to do what the
Masters of the Far East doI think this answers my questions. Thanks.
Thanks a lot for your time.
:notworthy:
ashwink
13-01-2016, 05:10 AM
God the controller of maya...
You know, in all the scriptures and all the books I have
read I have never heard that phrase written by anyone.
You are missing a key word in "If you ask your earthly father..." Matt 7:9
What do you think the key word is?
I personally do not think God is the controller of maya,
(or this illusion or dream, for those that are not totally familiar with that word.)
Say, I deliberately drive into a tree...I dunno, maybe I want insurance money...was God in control of that? No.
Was God in control of the thought that made me think to do it? No.
Ha, was God even in control of me needing more money? :tongue:
As far as to 'why' has God tied you to maya...there is much more to understand.
Who is tied...who is untied...who is actually doing the tying?
Why is there even maya or this 3D creation at all?
Why is there individuation at ALL!?
Why didn't this Superior Being, Brahman, Atman stay alone and singular in the Void?
So many questions to be answered and contemplated.
And the answers are all inside you...reading Meher Baba, Adyashanti,
Gangaji, Ramana Maharshi, Nigsargadatta
and many other yogis that have spent many years in deep meditation would be helpful. :icon_study:
In scriptures,it is said the supreme goddess is called as 'Mahamaya' means the controller as well as the illusion itself.
Miss Hepburn
13-01-2016, 05:42 AM
In scriptures,it is said the supreme goddess is called as 'Mahamaya' means
the controller as well as the illusion itself..
also Ramakrshna Paramahamsa teachings tells the same Oh, yes, Mahamaya!
A true seductress, I know her well.
A warm thank you, ashwink
And, so sorry, kralaro...just saw your post from way back 5 days ago. xxoo
I have this in the background...thought you might like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP02sgYrHsw
ashwink
13-01-2016, 06:24 AM
God the controller of maya...
You know, in all the scriptures and all the books I have
read I have never heard that phrase written by anyone.
You are missing a key word in "If you ask your earthly father..." Matt 7:9
What do you think the key word is?
I personally do not think God is the controller of maya,
(or this illusion or dream, for those that are not totally familiar with that word.)
Say, I deliberately drive into a tree...I dunno, maybe I want insurance money...was God in control of that? No.
Was God in control of the thought that made me think to do it? No.
Ha, was God even in control of me needing more money? :tongue:
As far as to 'why' has God tied you to maya...there is much more to understand.
Who is tied...who is untied...who is actually doing the tying?
Why is there even maya or this 3D creation at all?
Why is there individuation at ALL!?
Why didn't this Superior Being, Brahman, Atman stay alone and singular in the Void?
So many questions to be answered and contemplated.
And the answers are all inside you...reading Meher Baba, Adyashanti,
Gangaji, Ramana Maharshi, Nigsargadatta
and many other yogis that have spent many years in deep meditation would be helpful. :icon_study:
RAMAKRISHNA PARAMAHAMSA ON FREE WILL:-
Vaidyanath: “Sir, I have a doubt. People speak of free will. They say that a man can do either good or evil according to his free will. Is it true?
Are we really free to do whatever we like?”
Master: “Everything depends on the will of God. The world is Her play. She has created all these different things—great and small, strong and weak,
good and bad, virtuous and vicious. This is all Her maya, Her sport. You must have observed that all the trees in a garden are not of the same
kind.
“As long as a man has not realized God, he thinks he is free. It is God Himself who keeps this error in man. Otherwise sin would have multiplied.
Man would not have been afraid of sin, and there would have been no punishment for it.
“But do you know the attitude of one who has realized God? He feels: ‘I am the machine, and Thou, O Lord, art the Operator. I am the house and Thou
art the Indweller. I am the chariot and Thou art the Driver. I move as Thou movest me; I speak as Thou makest me speak.’
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Srî Râmakrishna, smiling: Oh, the mother sports with the world, Her toy, under various aspects and names. Now She is the God Unconditioned,
Absolute, Formless. The Primal Divine Energy, is both within and without this phenomenal world. Having given birth to the world, She lives within
it. In the Vedas we find the illustration of a spider and its web. Divine Mother, the material and the instrumental cause.She is the spider and the
world is the web that She has woven. The spider brings the phenomenal web out of herself and then lives on it. My Mother is both the Container and
the Contained. Bondage and freedom, of both She is the maker. Through Her inscrutable power of Mâyâ a man of the world becomes bound. Again,
through Her grace he becomes free. She breaks all fetters and takes Her children across the ocean of the world; and the Bhagavân sang in His divine
voice:
The Divine Mother and the Liberated Soul
O Mother, Thou art flying the paper kite (of the human being) in the market-place of this world.
It flies on the wind of hope, tied to the string of Mâyâ.
Ribs, nerves and bones make up its frame,
Of Thine own qualities hast Thou made the Kite, to display Thine art.
Thou hast rubbed the string with the Mânjâ (paste with powdered glass) of worldliness, and it has become sharp.
Among hundred thousand Kites one or two have their strings cut, and are freed;
Then with a laugh Thou clappest Thy hands.
Prasâd says, The Kite thus set free will fly swiftly on fair winds and drop beyond the ocean of this world.
Srî Râmakrishna continuing: My Divine Mother is playful. The world indeed is Her sport. She does what She will and is blissful. It is Her pleasure
to give freedom to one among a hundred thousand of Her children.
A Brâhmo: Sir, She can, if She pleases, set every body free. Why is it then that She has bound us hand and foot with the chains of the world?
Srî Râmakrishna: Well, I suppose, it is Her pleasure. It is Her pleasure to go on with Her sport with all these beings that She has brought into
existence. In the game of Hide-and-Seek, whoever touches the Grand-dame is out. He no longer runs about.The others who have not touched the goal
must run about and play to the great delight of the Grand-dame. If all the players touch the Grand-dame at the same time, how can there be any game? The Grand-dame would not like it; for she is pleased to have the play go on.
~ Gospel Of Sri Ramakrshna
kralaro
13-01-2016, 09:25 AM
I think Ramakrshna's mother and Mahamaya are different. Ramakrshna used to see God as mother. Mahamaya as I've read is God's external potency.
Ashwink, seeing your post I'm reminded of this:
From "Essence of Yoga" by Sivananda ( www.dlshq.org/download/essence_yoga.htm ):Q: What is the purpose of God creating the world?
A: This is a transcendental question or Atiprasna. You will know the purpose when you attain Self-realisation or Brahma Jnana. The finite mind that is conditioned in time, space and causation cannot get an answer to a question that relates to transcendental matters.
kralaro
13-01-2016, 09:35 AM
I know her well.How you know Mahamaya?
kralaro
13-01-2016, 09:57 AM
I wanted to read further from what Ashwink posted and found these:
who repeats again and again, "I am bound, I am bound," remains in bondage.When bitten by a snake, if you assert with firmness, "There is no venom in me," you will be cured. In the same way, he who asserts with strong conviction "I am not bound, I am free," becomes free.
ashwink
15-01-2016, 03:27 PM
I think Ramakrshna's mother and Mahamaya are different. Ramakrshna used to see God as mother. Mahamaya as I've read is God's external potency.
Ashwink, seeing your post I'm reminded of this:
From "Essence of Yoga" by Sivananda:
Both mahamaya and divine mother are same.
In own Ramakrshnas words :-
The Master continued: "One must propitiate the Divine Mother, the Primal Energy, in order to obtain God's grace. God Herself is Mahamaya, who deludes the world with Her illusion and conjures up the magic of creation, preservation, and destruction. She has spread this veil of ignorance before our eyes. We can go into the inner chamber only when She lets us pass through the door. Living outside, we see only outer objects, but not that Eternal Being, Existence-Knowledge-Bliss Absolute.
Since I get private messages often on things ( God, faith, LOA, prayer, happiness)
my words often only go to ONE person! Hahahaha.... :tongue:
So I thought for those interested I would...expound a little on this "how to get your prayers answered" thing. :smile:
Why listen to anything I have to say?
Because until last year I have not had one single prayer not answered.
The one not answered, I am very honest about;
I understand perfectly there were factors out of my control...as in the person's core belief system,
external influences countering the prayer, and possibly the person's own life plan or her soul's blueprint to die...and so she did!
This is something you must be aware of...other forces or influences.
Unconscious forces, too...within yourself you don't even realize...aaaannnd that is why they are called unconscious. :D
Lol!
I could write so much on this subject, but to just get the ball rolling:
(For those interested.)
1. You really must know deep in your core that you deserve to receive all that your heart desires.
A chapter could be written on this...and eventually I may say more.
2. You must believe nothing is impossible.
3. Faith in God, of any name, any concept will not be enough if in your
subconscious mind you do not believe you are worthy or do not deserve what you are asking for.
"I have faith and believe God can move mountains...but, not for me..."
4. You must do the work...the research, the study of the subject matter.
You must put in the time ...just as you would if you desired to lose weight or get a certain job.
5. And what is the subject? God, the Creator and Sustainer, the Essence within everything...and
how this Universe works...the
System in which it works with...always.
6. Know things could take an hour or a month.
NEVER have any doubt...ever...never.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I will talk about IF anyone shows interest is what works for me.
Other 'techniques' may work well for others.
But, as I said...only one thing in my life have I not 'gotten'...
but, there were many other factors involved, oh well.
Will some think this is egotistical, sure.
But all the gratitude and acknowledgment goes to God, the Only One,
the Divine, that
we live, move and have our being in.
The 2 book recommendations to start: "Answered Prayer Guaranteed!"
by Dr. Frederick Price and
"Ask And It Is Given" by Ester Hicks and Abraham, her first book.
Read and apply those and you wouldn't have to read this thread! :wink:
Thank you sweet friend for sharing this! I believe this, and KNOW this deep in my soul.. but sometimes doubt, ugly doubt overshadow this and leave me feeling, fear, and anxiety.
Thank you again!
Miss Hepburn
15-01-2016, 04:42 PM
How you know Mahamaya?
Another name for the great Illusion...I sometimes call The Trap!
Hahahaha:tongue:
Miss Hepburn
15-01-2016, 04:46 PM
Both mahamaya and divine mother are same.
In own Ramakrshnas words :-
The Master continued: "One must propitiate the Divine Mother, the Primal Energy, in order to obtain God's grace.
God Herself is Mahamaya, who deludes the world with Her illusion and conjures up the magic of creation, preservation, and destruction.
She has spread this veil of ignorance before our eyes.
We can go into the inner chamber only when She lets us pass through the door.
Living outside, we see only outer objects, but not that Eternal Being, Existence-Knowledge-Bliss Absolute.
OMGosh this is heavenly to me...please continue with these explanations!
:hug2:
More quotes, please...:smile:
Miss Hepburn
15-01-2016, 05:05 PM
I believe this, and KNOW this deep in my soul.. but sometimes doubt, ugly doubt overshadow
this and leave me feeling, fear, and anxiety.
Thank you again! Oh, that DOUBT!
I know...it is the enemy, period! Creates all sorts of other things...
fear, stress...you name it.
This is why we must 'know' what we are dealing with.
Know the enemy.
This is a simple formula...anything that makes you feel ickky...is of
the Egoic Mind, the Ego Thought System...or as Christians say, the devil...
I refuse to ever cap devil or satan...learned that from Christian authors.
Anything that feels good, right, kind, loving, compassionate....would
never hurt is of the Holy Spirit or is from a Godly perspective or Thought System.
Sorry, but this is what we all will have to do one day or the other...
and that is to be like a Sentry at their post....shoot down or say, No, to each and every
silly thought that takes you away from happiness, peace, love, contentment.
These are ''of God''.
Helps me anyway...ickky feeling, Uh-oh...ego.
Kind feeling or thought? Holy Spirit or Higher Self, if one prefers. :wink:
Hope this helps any others I didn't get to, sorry.
This actually is very simple...this whole life is...the ego-mind asks
many questions...remember man was not given a spirit of confusion...
Clarity and simplicity is our true natural state...when we feel confused remember
all the clarity and all the clear answers lay within us. :hug3:
He will keep him in perfect peace who stays his mind on him. Isaiah 26:3
This is to be taken literally...as is Col 3:2...focus on the things above and not
the things on the earth.
These and Seek the Kingdom of Heaven first (not only, rem, just 1st)are the biggest clues to happiness here on earth, and answered prayers!
:wink:
Sarian
03-02-2016, 06:15 PM
This was the thread I was looking for...!
Miss Hepburn
04-02-2016, 02:12 AM
Alright, Sarian! I even forgot about this thread!
Anything that inspires us to be in that place we
are supposed to be in...happiness...connection is
from the Higher Self or the Holy Spirit.
This is what we need more of ...things that bring us back to where we want to be...where we
are supposed to be...strong, enthusiastic....confident and clear.
This is our natural state.
I loved when Abraham said, We are standing in the center of a hurricane of Well-Being. :hug3:
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