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naturesflow
14-12-2015, 08:08 PM
Life can feel
Both inactive and active
Moving and unmoving
Doing and non doing
Living and not living
You being life in everyway of living your life as it feels for you.
Actively engaged in yourself and your life is reflected through you as you are actively engaged from within. How you feel, what you think, what you seek and what you intend for yourself. You being you in everyway of you. A whole host of you coming into the action of you in so many forms of you participating in life.
Whether we are actively participating with our bodies on the physical level, where we can see the results, through the physical awareness and movements and notice our growth and change in this way, or if we are not physically moving, being more still and present with ourselves, it can feel like there is no movement or growth occurring. We become so used to building the awareness of change and shifting in movement of our physical bodies that within the non doing, we can feel stagnant and not moving at all.
In the silent unmoving awareness of you just being, you are still participating in life in this way. This process is part of you being actively engaged from within, for your process and life. This opens us to learn to be still, to be in the non doing space of life and process as it calls us to be. To be ok doing nothing.
This is part of both, building our own strong foundation as well as opening to be aware of how life calls us to move and not move in our physical bodies. It teaches us to slow down, listen deeper to self, take care of our most subtle, more quiet needs, to let go of the world for a time and just be with ourselves.
We are the seasons too. We hold both the obvious and less noticeable aspect of change and awareness in us.
Being alive in everyway of our own action and non action. Being active and being still.
Opens up the nature of being you in everyway of you.
Taking care of you in everyway of you being you.
Lorelyen
15-12-2015, 05:21 PM
If fact, I can't see how one can evolve along any axis without active participation in your terms. Even one's view of "spirituality" (and what it is) (let alone the "youness" about you) changes through active participation. What was once thought as being spiritual turns into a spiritual life where one isn't constantly concerned about the issue because it's there. One's relationship with everything. One becomes a spiritually inspired spirit on the Earth.
Many here and elsewhere want to "be spiritual". Perhaps their upbringing prevents them from seeing the answer before their eyes. For some, their participative reckoning with their environment and expectations of them, sets them on a path. To me it's about questioning and evaluating.
Otherwise one will remain one of the sheeple, a robot, zombi maybe, passed to and fro between the agencies of the intelligentsia who, with magick of the lightest touch, know how to get what they want from sheeple for their own aggrandisement. Sheeple who seek others to make decisions for them, who believe the propaganda about choices and freedoms they have. The easiest con in the world is to find some naïve person and convince them that what they believe came from themselves.
Only some escape that....which is perhaps a good thing.
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Mr Interesting
15-12-2015, 06:38 PM
This reminds me of when I used to see my active role in regard to timing. It was almost as if I could see a time coming where I would be on time. So I would work almost faster and faster and it would become easier and easier and the timing, as it was, would then reach that point of coming together and then even before I drew another breath I would again be way out front... It was weird but also kinda comforting that work required could be almost so simple, hard as in taxing physically, but then I always seemed to get long luxuriant times after to just bask in doing nothing and that this prevailing calmness would somehow keep it all together but at the same time be breaking in the new ground to come.
Now it's different again. It's almost as if the world understands me even better than I do myself. As if the world has come to appreciate less the need to finish and prove an existence and has made room for just the space of innovation and that's appealing too because I can move the holiday time into that so that in a sense the activity includes much more inactivity and vice versa to the extent that I would suppose those differences eventually no longer have markings as different.
Seems to me it is what Zen is all about but then again I don't really know what Zen is... now and zen I do, maybe.
naturesflow
16-12-2015, 04:30 AM
[QUOTE=Lorelyen]If fact, I can't see how one can evolve along any axis without active participation in your terms. Even one's view of "spirituality" (and what it is) (let alone the "youness" about you) changes through active participation. What was once thought as being spiritual turns into a spiritual life where one isn't constantly concerned about the issue because it's there. One's relationship with everything. One becomes a spiritually inspired spirit on the Earth.
Yes spiritually inspired spirit on earth. I like that. This shows me that in what I shared when we awaken through all the spiritual awareness that is in part, part of our own self building, selt destruction, what transpires is to integrate all that into living it as life. So for me its not really about spirituality (which for me is just a term we use associated to another aspect of life process, we walk through one with all life walking) Its about honouring life in us in everyway of us being that life.
Many here and elsewhere want to "be spiritual". Perhaps their upbringing prevents them from seeing the answer before their eyes. For some, their participative reckoning with their environment and expectations of them, sets them on a path. To me it's about questioning and evaluating.
Yes many do want to be spiritual, but in that seeking they are often unaware they are seeking themselves into being that they do not know. Change moves us through everything we think we are and want to be, constantly opening us and supporting us to let go of what was and what wants to become in change. We are reaching for an aspect of ourselves which is really important in the whole knowing of self but its constantly integrating in so many ways of life and experience and change.
Otherwise one will remain one of the sheeple, a robot, zombi maybe, passed to and fro between the agencies of the intelligentsia who, with magick of the lightest touch, know how to get what they want from sheeple for their own aggrandisement. Sheeple who seek others to make decisions for them, who believe the propaganda about choices and freedoms they have. The easiest con in the world is to find some naïve person and convince them that what they believe came from themselves.
Do you wonder if that choice is part of their life for them in this way? Because ultimately, if you do feel this then one cannot rush the process of growth that they have to walk through their own way and process..I am not sheepish to ask you this..:wink:
Only some escape that....which is perhaps a good thing.
Yes this is true, some do, some continue in this way and some don't know or have a choice in the process of their unknown yet perhaps?
naturesflow
16-12-2015, 04:33 AM
This reminds me of when I used to see my active role in regard to timing. It was almost as if I could see a time coming where I would be on time. So I would work almost faster and faster and it would become easier and easier and the timing, as it was, would then reach that point of coming together and then even before I drew another breath I would again be way out front... It was weird but also kinda comforting that work required could be almost so simple, hard as in taxing physically, but then I always seemed to get long luxuriant times after to just bask in doing nothing and that this prevailing calmness would somehow keep it all together but at the same time be breaking in the new ground to come.
Now it's different again. It's almost as if the world understands me even better than I do myself. As if the world has come to appreciate less the need to finish and prove an existence and has made room for just the space of innovation and that's appealing too because I can move the holiday time into that so that in a sense the activity includes much more inactivity and vice versa to the extent that I would suppose those differences eventually no longer have markings as different.
Seems to me it is what Zen is all about but then again I don't really know what Zen is... now and zen I do, maybe.
Zen words of yours lead me to lead with Zen again..
It seems like a good Zen practice to me..
Lorelyen
17-12-2015, 10:21 AM
Otherwise one will remain one of the sheeple, a robot, zombi maybe, passed to and fro between the agencies of the intelligentsia who, with magick of the lightest touch, know how to get what they want from sheeple for their own aggrandisement. Sheeple who seek others to make decisions for them, who believe the propaganda about choices and freedoms they have. The easiest con in the world is to find some naïve person and convince them that what they believe came from themselves.
Do you wonder if that choice is part of their life for them in this way? Because ultimately, if you do feel this then one cannot rush the process of growth that they have to walk through their own way and process..I am not sheepish to ask you this..:wink:
In most cases, no. People are prisoners of their early and formative years when they are programmed. It's when something happens to make them question that programming that they awake to altetnatives. Then it's a choice. It's easier to go with the pre-programmed flow than step aside into the more interesting paths in the jungle, sort of thing. Some probably reach this point but decide to stick to the programme.
It's difficult. People are obliged to work within the system to survive unless they want to follow some (usually) criminal activity, are resourceful enough to live outside it (buy an allotment, build shelter etc), or have a rich benefactor. But it is an awakening to become aware of that system - seeing oneself as robotic, how one is manipulated - and learning how to pay "expectations" lip-service while driving ones own life. In fact, it's a big step, an enlightenment, if it leads them to deeper contemplation and shucking off materialism, developing a love of self and so on.
Not that the "system" is all bad. Christendom put the facilities there for people to meet and enjoy each other, to share experiences, to become, to survive with a degree of comfort if they were happy to work within it. Downside: It also commandeered responsibility for their spirituality, the most obvious symptom of which is people's lack of awareness let alone control or channelling of their emotions - in fact much emotional baggage exists because spirit has been split off from their workaday lives (along with constraints on how emotions can be expressed). If they awaken to something like this and seek to reintegrate it, they've chosen spiritual development....active participation to use your words....
...as I see it.......... though my vision is often bleary at this time of year :D
I hope what I've said makes sense. You're far more articulate than I... that's the problem: I have to think to respond to your commentary. Woe is me!!!
I'm in danger of having too much blood in my alcohol stream...
Um...wait a minute....
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