View Full Version : How we treat others is how we treat ourselves
Timeless
28-11-2015, 03:59 AM
I guess it's karma. If you do good, good will come back around. Imagine a circle. You respect and have love toward someone, and the cycle will continue. Whatever positive energy you emit will transform into peace. What keeps the cycle going is perhaps love?
So you can either carry around a bitterness with you, or grow and appreciate the existence of others and allow them to give you life. We're all connected to the same source of thought and functioning. Everything that has resulted in this world was caused by the interaction of us a whole.
Deepsoul
28-11-2015, 07:58 AM
I love that Thankyou Timeless.
Lorelyen
28-11-2015, 08:05 AM
Certainly I reckon people should treat others as they'd like to be treated themselves.
It's disturbing when meeting someone who carries around bitterness but it's also understandable at times. Something goes wrong affecting the person deeply, let's say trauma, and as they aren't in touch with their emotions enough they never resolve whatever-it-was. The sad bit is that if it festers enough it'll change their emotions permanently.
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Inika
29-11-2015, 04:26 AM
If we view others as extensions of our self yes. How we treat our self is how we treat others.
Miss Hepburn
29-11-2015, 03:18 PM
That's funny. I started a thread on ...''When we talk to others we are talking to ourselves''.
When I even think a nice thought about someone, wishing them well,
I really am saying that to me...truly like saying it to a mirror.
I experience this deeply...it's not just some 'idea' for me....used to be, tho.
lemex
29-11-2015, 05:33 PM
Certainly I reckon people should treat others as they'd like to be treated themselves.
It's disturbing when meeting someone who carries around bitterness but it's also understandable at times. Something goes wrong affecting the person deeply, let's say trauma, and as they aren't in touch with their emotions enough they never resolve whatever-it-was. The sad bit is that if it festers enough it'll change their emotions permanently.
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Does such experience have to be permanent. In a way yes but one can continue experience that become knowledge. I myself, have come to treat experience as knowledge. Maybe this mirrors what others talk about here. I continue to move along the path of it. Knowledge givers.
Timeless talks of a cycle of resonance that is going on maybe. Awareness. The op may show unconditional energy which can change or motivate if shown. Know thyself.
Here's an example small and common as it is. Being in contact with another I can treat them as I am experiencing our interaction. Someone is rude and short to me and I am the same, someone is nice to me and I am nice. But I have learned to be nice consciously when others are rude and one day I noticed change in them. At first I didn't want to. I found I tended to act in a predestined way and is what the op is aware of. I have come to practice what I call being unconditional to include not exclude others experience. Guess I just don't give up
Lucyan28
01-12-2015, 04:50 PM
I have come to practice what I call being unconditional to include not exclude others experience. Guess I just don't give up
This is fabulous Lemex, I really like it !
Lucyan28
01-12-2015, 04:51 PM
Somebody gave me this advice a loooong time ago, if you are on a date, watch carefully how they treat the waiter/waitress, it will tell you a lot of that person ;)
Mr Interesting
01-12-2015, 06:39 PM
What comes to mind with me is when, in the past, I would see the right way forward as in how to have a situation work out best for all involved and what was tricky was a kind of fore knowledge that while what might be done would benefit others in the short term, almost with me sacrificing myself, but that in the long run the benefits would turn hugely towards me.
And in those past times I would question this all quite seriously as if there was somehow a way to not realise the benefits to me, that It was somehow wrong because even though I was supposedly helping others this fore knowledge told me I was actually helping myself.
But over time I realised that such meritorious behaviours, even with the knowledge of me benefiting immensely later on, actually came with responsibilities and it was this that the fore knowledge was mostly about.
So while indeed this treating others and how we treat ourselves is a good starting point there is an essentiality underlying this about each person coming into their lightest and most efficient place amongst others which while on the surface it could be seen to be applied to those needs as most present at the particular time that there is also an underlying motivation towards unearthing unregarded talents even the people we might be helping don't know they as yet have.
It's then less about what might be on the surface of ones own needs and others needs and possibly more about the needs of the whole and how specific people can engender those talents within themselves as a part of the whole.
Miss Hepburn
01-12-2015, 06:44 PM
Somebody gave me this advice a loooong time ago, if you are on a date, watch carefully
how they treat the waiter/waitress, it will tell you a lot of that person ;) I've seen others kinda fall in love with me by watching me with others...
you are correct. :wink: Men and women with crushes.
knightofalbion
01-12-2015, 08:37 PM
Somebody gave me this advice a loooong time ago, if you are on a date, watch carefully how they treat the waiter/waitress, it will tell you a lot of that person ;)
Good advice. People put on pretences to impress and put themselves in a better light. How they treat staff - also animals - is worth noting because that exposes their inner nature (and ultimately how they'll end up treating you)
Patience, kindness and respect, you're on to a winner.
Lucyan28
01-12-2015, 08:43 PM
Good advice. People put on pretences to impress and put themselves in a better light. How they treat staff - also animals - is worth noting because that exposes their inner nature (and ultimately how they'll end up treating you)
Patience, kindness and respect, you're on to a winner.
Exactly Knight :hug2: it is important that you included animals in this analogy, when a person does not like animals for no reason, definitely something weird is going on, Red Flag !
I like the paradoxical commandments
http://www.paradoxicalcommandments.com/
because they remind me to love unconditionally.
also
“Be kind to everyone on the way up; you’ll meet the same people on the way down.“ Wilson Miznor
keokutah
01-12-2015, 09:13 PM
I've always wanted to believe that but I don't think it's true.
Whenever I do good things for people, bad things happen to me. And when I decide to just not do anything to help people, good things happen to me.
Everywhere I look I see jerks who get all the good things coming to them, and the nicest people ever never get anything good coming to them.
I see people who deserve goodness all the time, and they have the worst luck in the world and people around them constantly treat them terribly, despite how well they treat others.
keokutah
01-12-2015, 09:18 PM
Somebody gave me this advice a loooong time ago, if you are on a date, watch carefully how they treat the waiter/waitress, it will tell you a lot of that person ;)
I imagine the only thing it would tell you is what kind of mood they are in currently, because people don't always react in the same way.
I've seen people who are normally really friendly to strangers act rudely to waiters and vice versa, just depending on the situation and what mood they are in currently so I'm not sure that would really be a good judge of character.
Lucyan28
01-12-2015, 09:50 PM
I imagine the only thing it would tell you is what kind of mood they are in currently, because people don't always react in the same way.
I've seen people who are normally really friendly to strangers act rudely to waiters and vice versa, just depending on the situation and what mood they are in currently so I'm not sure that would really be a good judge of character.
Hi keokutah, I still believe it is a good way to know the person, you can know their education and personality just by noticing how they treat the staff (even if they're in a good mood or in a bad mood)
There are people that are not rude to anyone, no matter the circumstances or the mood they are :redface:
A human Being
02-12-2015, 12:57 AM
I've always wanted to believe that but I don't think it's true.
Whenever I do good things for people, bad things happen to me. And when I decide to just not do anything to help people, good things happen to me.
Everywhere I look I see jerks who get all the good things coming to them, and the nicest people ever never get anything good coming to them.
I see people who deserve goodness all the time, and they have the worst luck in the world and people around them constantly treat them terribly, despite how well they treat others.
Intention is everything, imo. Many people who appear to always be trying to do good deeds are often doing so for ultimately self-centred reasons, imo - trying to curry favour, looking for love and validation, seeking a favour in return, or maybe just trying to avoid confrontation. I feel your intention has to be purely loving and selfless, with no thought for what you can gain through 'good' deeds; and then, 'as you give, so shall you receive.' :smile:
keokutah
02-12-2015, 01:30 AM
Intention is everything, imo. Many people who appear to always be trying to do good deeds are often doing so for ultimately self-centred reasons, imo - trying to curry favour, looking for love and validation, seeking a favour in return, or maybe just trying to avoid confrontation. I feel your intention has to be purely loving and selfless, with no thought for what you can gain through 'good' deeds; and then, 'as you give, so shall you receive.' :smile:
I've know the most selfless people who still end up having terrible luck and bad things happen to them. And same for me too, I can literally just help people because it's what I love to do and bad things happen still. And I can be a complete jerk and great things will come to me.
In my teenage years I was quite a rebel and broke the law a lot, and I sought for punishment to get attention, and it never happened. People just rewarded me for being bad and let me do whatever I wanted to do.
I do not believe that rule at all. If it were true then good things would never happen to bad people and bad things would never happen to good people, but they do all the time.
I honestly don't think there is any evil force punishing us. You can do something bad and be forgiven, which I think is probably a better rule, even though most of us would rather see bad people being punished for their badness. Every time I see someone do something bad, I want karma to exist, but in my experience, it never does.
Edit: I do believe in the law of attraction but it's not the same principle, because I have seen bad people use the law of attraction to get whatever they want too.
keokutah
02-12-2015, 01:34 AM
Hi keokutah, I still believe it is a good way to know the person, you can know their education and personality just by noticing how they treat the staff (even if they're in a good mood or in a bad mood)
There are people that are not rude to anyone, no matter the circumstances or the mood they are :redface:
Yeah I guess it depends on what someones definition of rude is also because even a saint is going to be in a bad mood sometimes and won't feel like being very talkative. I've met really kind people who are still assertive enough to tell a waiter that the food was not to their liking lol.
I just don't like judging people in general, let alone based on how they treat another person only once.
A human Being
02-12-2015, 02:11 AM
I've know the most selfless people who still end up having terrible luck and bad things happen to them. And same for me too, I can literally just help people because it's what I love to do and bad things happen still. And I can be a complete jerk and great things will come to me.
In my teenage years I was quite a rebel and broke the law a lot, and I sought for punishment to get attention, and it never happened. People just rewarded me for being bad and let me do whatever I wanted to do.
I do not believe that rule at all. If it were true then good things would never happen to bad people and bad things would never happen to good people, but they do all the time.
I honestly don't think there is any evil force punishing us. You can do something bad and be forgiven, which I think is probably a better rule, even though most of us would rather see bad people being punished for their badness. Every time I see someone do something bad, I want karma to exist, but in my experience, it never does.
Edit: I do believe in the law of attraction but it's not the same principle, because I have seen bad people use the law of attraction to get whatever they want too.
Maybe it depends upon your definition of good and bad. Maybe it also depends upon your definition of selfless, too; I think that term can get confused with self-sacrifice, but to me that isn't what the term means. To me, to be selfless is to literally be without self, without any concept of self whatsoever. There is no self, and hence there is no 'other,' and therefore all distinctions are illusory.
RedEmbers
02-12-2015, 07:38 AM
I have social anxiety and I am introverted HA HA HA HA HA HA
Often the way I treat others is in total disharmony with the way I feel about them.
I can feel great love and appreciation for others in private but in public my anxiety can get the better of me and there is a total mismatch...
Perhaps I am too sensitive and thus go on the defensive too much.
Not sure what that is all about.
There is probably a "But" in here somewhere.
Serenity69
02-12-2015, 09:38 AM
We are interconnected with each other and God
We are one drop in the vast ocean(God)
Be positive | Be Love | Be God
We are interconnected with each other and God
We are one drop in the vast ocean(God)
Be positive | Be Love | Be God
Yes!!!!!!!!!
Lucyan28
02-12-2015, 05:43 PM
Yeah I guess it depends on what someones definition of rude is also because even a saint is going to be in a bad mood sometimes and won't feel like being very talkative. I've met really kind people who are still assertive enough to tell a waiter that the food was not to their liking lol.
I just don't like judging people in general, let alone based on how they treat another person only once.
Hi Keokutah, yes you're right, we must not judge a person just for one bad moment, that's so right :hug2:
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