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umbridge
27-10-2015, 06:28 PM
I always searched love from others..... and its so painful when I have had a few soul connections and all these guys are spiritually advanced...and they cut me off because they think I should learn ... and focus on myself....

I am going crazy because I my heart is dying to feel that love energy..love connection..you know its like an exctasy...:hug3:

And I am just alone....people are around me but I feel alone and I can't fill myself with love because I am so broken????


Please help me with it... please....

Rokon
27-10-2015, 06:49 PM
Hello Umbridge, hang in there. It is a very difficult time right now for heart spirits to exist and it can be very challenging just to stay present, but without heart holding space on this planet it would be much worse. There is a metamorphosis going on right now and full heart is the goal. Its a rough ride right now but just know that this is a transition time. The meek "will" inherit the Earth. :hug3:

umbridge
27-10-2015, 07:01 PM
Thanks, Rokon!!! You are very right.

higherpower
27-10-2015, 07:10 PM
:hug3: :hug2: :hug:

umbridge
27-10-2015, 07:26 PM
thank you, higherpower...you gave me exactly what I needed...HUGS!!! :)

Shinsoo
27-10-2015, 07:46 PM
Umbridge, I feel you on wanting to feel that Love. It's been quite absent from my ride too. I know it's there, I believe wholeheartedly that Spirit is good. But I have yet to feel it fully. For some, the spiritual path is simply tougher, and guiltily enough, I feel a little better that there is another person out there who isn't ashamed to admit that their spiritual ride has been lacking in the all-encompassing love department.

umbridge
27-10-2015, 07:58 PM
I found teacher/ healer who could help me to develop a deeper connection with myself. So glad!!!

Shinsoo
27-10-2015, 08:00 PM
I found teacher/ healer who could help me to develop a deeper connection with myself. So glad!!!

I'm glad to hear it! Best of luck to you. :)

knightofalbion
27-10-2015, 08:39 PM
Good for you! And I'm glad to see you back!

Internet forums are okay, but sometimes, as I think is your case, what is needed is personal contact. Perhaps going to your local spiritualist church would help, or joining esoteric interest groups in your area, or joining a spiritual dating agency, to maybe find your soul mate?

wolfgaze
27-10-2015, 08:52 PM
Why do you feel that you are 'broken'?

The Back Seat
28-10-2015, 11:04 PM
Great idea to finding a spiritual teacher. Focusing on yourself is exactly what I would recommend. Once we learn to love ourselves, we begin attracting the love of others. If you can learn to love yourself and be happy while not in a relationship, others will see this and be attracted to you. I recently come to understand this in my own life, and it definitely worked for me.

Try not to dwell on your past relationships and try not to focus on finding love in a new relationship at this moment. Do activities you enjoy to feed the love for yourself, give and receive love from family and friends. If you don't already do meditations, I recommend breathing and heart meditation to relax the mind and bring focus to the heart. Sometimes we can get caught in thought loops in the mind that can drive us to a negative setting, so becoming aware of our thoughts is important.

kayfaei
29-10-2015, 12:20 AM
I think that it's wonderful that you found a teacher/ healer. I really hope I can find one to I'm just not even sure where to begin. I feel like there is so much I need to repair within myself and grow my love for myself, I know for a fact that's one of my biggest blockages in my advancement.

That and I am also looking for love but sadly they always end up in the wrong places

7luminaries
30-10-2015, 02:54 PM
Great idea to finding a spiritual teacher. Focusing on yourself is exactly what I would recommend. Once we learn to love ourselves, we begin attracting the love of others. If you can learn to love yourself and be happy while not in a relationship, others will see this and be attracted to you. I recently come to understand this in my own life, and it definitely worked for me.

Try not to dwell on your past relationships and try not to focus on finding love in a new relationship at this moment. Do activities you enjoy to feed the love for yourself, give and receive love from family and friends. If you don't already do meditations, I recommend breathing and heart meditation to relax the mind and bring focus to the heart. Sometimes we can get caught in thought loops in the mind that can drive us to a negative setting, so becoming aware of our thoughts is important.

I know you mean well...and so do many others along these lines...but IMO the part about once we love ourselves, then others will become attracted to us is really such poor advice for so many reasons. Whilst all the rest of it is great, I don't think this bit is helpful.

Why?
Because the vast majority of those who become attracted to us are, given this realm and this culture, largely attracted for superficial reasons UNLESS they have got to know us very slowly, over time, and have allowed for friendship and love of the other as a person to come to the fore.

Although it is true that once we love ourselves more fully, we may seem even more attractive initially to all those who lack that same love of self, or who see in us things they lack or desire to have for themselves.

But none of this sort of immediate or initial "magnetic" type of attraction is authentic love, and therefore none of this is a healthy attraction. Even the initial magnetism of souls and energies is not a true and authentic love.

Love is best known and understood as a verb...i.e., to love, to do love, doing love, and loving. These are actions, expressed and grounded in word and deed. Love is based on an experiential, fluid, active depth of knowing and does not rest on any initial attraction or magnetism. Often, it does not even grow from a soul attraction because it finds no expression or grounding in our day-to-day existence. It is then merely a seed that could have flourished but did not...where it never germinated or took root.

To the OP...Umbridge, I am sorry for your pain...I hope that you can care and nurture yourself now and in future, and that you continue to seek and enjoy the company of worthy and beloved friends and family...and that you can mutually share kindness and love amongst yourselves.

-Love of one's self is its own reward.
-Consciously seeking the beloved friendship of fellow travellers is its own reward.
-Finding them is its own reward.
-Finding a partner love of souls with someone who loves you authentically as a beloved friend and person first and foremost -- who seeks your highest good equally to their own -- is its own reward.

A true and beloved friendship with one's self and with others are the only things worth seeking here...alongside seeking to align ourselves ever more closely with spirit. And these things are worth seeking purely for themselves and on their own merit. But they also are particularly relevant if one ever might want to consider a worthy life partner. In fact they are really the primary relevant items to consider in that regard, IMO.

None of these things are quick or are based on any sort of initial or surface attraction in the usual sense. They are all based on a long, slow, lifetime of knowing and growing and discovering.

Peace & blessings all,
7L

The Back Seat
30-10-2015, 03:09 PM
I know you mean well...and so do many others along these lines...but IMO the part about once we love ourselves, then others will become attracted to us is really such poor advice for so many reasons. Whilst all the rest of it is great, I don't think this bit is helpful.

Why?
Because the vast majority of those who become attracted to us are, given this realm and this culture, largely attracted for superficial reasons UNLESS they have got to know us very slowly, over time, and have allowed for friendship and love of the other as a person to come to the fore.

Although it is true that once we love ourselves more fully, we may seem even more attractive initially to all those who lack that same love of self, or who see in us things they lack or desire to have for themselves.

But none of this sort of immediate or initial "magnetic" type of attraction is authentic love, and therefore none of this is a healthy attraction. Even the initial magnetism of souls and energies is not a true and authentic love.

Love is best known and understood as a verb...i.e., to love, to do love, doing love, and loving. These are actions, expressed and grounded in word and deed. Love is based on an experiential, fluid, active depth of knowing and does not rest on any initial attraction or magnetism. Often, it does not even grow from a soul attraction because it finds no expression or grounding in our day-to-day existence. It is then merely a seed that could have flourished but did not...where it never germinated or took root.

Love of one's self is its own reward. Consciously seeking the beloved friendship of fellow travellers is its own reward. Finding them is its own reward. Finding a partner love of souls with someone who loves you authentically as a beloved friend and person first and foremost -- who seeks your highest good equally to their own -- is its own reward.

But none of these things are quick or are based on any sort of initial or surface attraction in the usual sense. They are all based on a long, slow, lifetime of knowing and growing and discovering.

Peace & blessings all,
7L

Be the change you want is what I think. If one hates themselves they will likely be surrounded by those that hate themselves as well. If one loves themselves they will likely be surrounded by those who love themselves as well. People that feel love for life in general (including themselves) tend to be attracted to others that feel the same way. Whether you feel love for life, yourself, or a significant other, it is all the same feeling. So until someone understands how to feel unconditional love for life in general, any love someone thinks they feel for someone else is most likely superficial.

We don't find love in others, we find it in ourselves and then share it. If we spend our lives searching for love in others, we will fail because we must give in order to receive. Love is mutual and must be given and taken, not just given. My point is, we must find love in ourselves before we can share it. Otherwise relationships won't be stable, because one person will only be giving and the other only receiving. It's the same reason why socialistic governmenrlts are not stable, because you cant only have some as takers and some as receivers.

So until umbridge finds love within herself, she will have none to share with future relationships. Her relationships will continue to end with the other telling her to "find herself".

7luminaries
30-10-2015, 03:38 PM
Be the change you want is what I think. If one hates themselves they will likely be surrounded by those that hate themselves as well. If one loves themselves they will likely be surrounded by those who love themselves as well. People that feel love for life in general (including themselves) tend to be attracted to others that feel the same way. Whether you feel love for life, yourself, or a significant other, it is all the same feeling. So until someone understands how to feel unconditional love for life in general, any love someone thinks they feel for someone else is most likely superficial.

We don't find love in others, we find it in ourselves and then share it. If we spend our lives searching for love in others, we will fail because we must give in order to receive. Love is mutual and must be given and taken, not just given. My point is, we must find love in ourselves before we can share it. Otherwise relationships won't be stable, because one person will only be giving and the other only receiving. It's the same reason why socialistic governmenrlts are not stable, because you cant only have some as takers and some as receivers.

So until umbridge finds love within herself, she will have none to share with future relationships. Her relationships will continue to end with the other telling her to "find herself".

Hello Backseat! I agree with all that you've said above. I think the key is stressing beloved friendship with one's self and with others first and foremost.

To discuss spiritual growth and healing using the terms attraction, magnetism, and relationship IMO simply requires a LOT of clarification.
Because to many today, attraction simply means a superficial or immediate attraction, or both. And relationship to many simply means a sexual relationship, to which many either naively attach or cynically dismiss any deeper emotional component. Often largely unfounded and to which one or both partners is variously incapable of delivering.

As you've also noted most accurately, authentic love amongst souls is always mutual and reciprocal between people and between friends -- in whatever ways are appropriate to express kindness and compassion -- and regardless of whether it's physically intimate or sexual.

This is precisely what is lacking in most (sexual/"romantic") "relationships" -- specifically, an authentic love of persons and friends, seeking the higher good of one another equally to one's self. Where authentic love and friendship is first and foremost, and where emotional and spiritual love and intimacy are not confined strictly to those with whom we are sexually involved. For many, they have no or few friends of the opposite sex because this is the only or primary way they can relate to the opposite sex...as sexual objects or as ego bolsters. This is limiting and dehumanising.

And it is why the term "relationship" is fairly useless without qualification and clarification in any discussion of authentic love of self and others.

It is also why most "romantic" or sexual "relationships" will not ever deliver the authentic love the OP and much of the rest of spiritual world generally seeks to give and receive. Because a vast majority of the time in today's world, it has not been founded on a solid basis of love and respect and friendship, built slowly over time. And so a "romantic" sexual "relationship" built on superficials is the LAST place I would generally point anyone seeking growth, balance, and healing.

Those are the main points I wanted to clarify and you've also provided wonderful clarification in your above post as well :hug3:

Peace & blessings,
7L