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naturesflow
22-10-2015, 09:55 PM
Once upon a time I use to strive for many things
Everything actually.
Part of me felt the need to push out to gain, set the fire alight and burn baby burn so to speak.
I strived, I fell, I pushed and I burned too in all that.
I gained in totality of experiences even so.
I gained but I didn't gain, well that is how it feels in me.
Its strange how we strive to chase something that is nothing, but something or anything really.
Anything we make it to be, see value in to strive for, then of course we dance in all that and feel at a home, for a little while at least or even a long while.
Change in striving. Yes that comes too.
To settle into a place where striving ceases to be.
When being allows, accepts and lets things unfold naturally.
Life unfolding, gesturing you in ways where striving no longer has a need.
Just being and listening and knowing exactly what the call of life wants of you.
I strived to die I suppose.
Die in every way of my old self.
I am still slowly letting go die once again, but I don't strive now.
I just live my life.
Its peaceful in this way now.
And I have no reason to control it.
I did once though
But then, when I think about control. It served me well until it no longer served me.
Then of course something else arrived to serve me. Or I am serving it?
Who knows?
I have no idea really. Even when I listen.
Mr Interesting
23-10-2015, 04:45 AM
I liked something that Mr S G Sparrow related in the common questions thread about the systems in various parts of the more enlightened universe, or multiverse, which don't revolve around money or currency. That it is simply ones ability to provide service which is the defining gesture or... do what you're good at with what's available and don't worry 'bout nothing else.
It's tuning too. Lot's of effort might go into bringing a semi taunt string up to pitch but once you're within range as much effort will take you right past being in tune so as we come up to pitch we listen closer and drop the effort part... fine tuning.
Dinner now... later (there was something else.)
naturesflow
23-10-2015, 04:51 AM
I liked something that Mr S G Sparrow related in the common questions thread about the systems in various parts of the more enlightened universe, or multiverse, which don't revolve around money or currency. That it is simply ones ability to provide service which is the defining gesture or... do what you're good at with what's available and don't worry 'bout nothing else.
It's tuning too. Lot's of effort might go into bringing a semi taunt string up to pitch but once you're within range as much effort will take you right past being in tune so as we come up to pitch we listen closer and drop the effort part... fine tuning.
Dinner now... later (there was something else.)
I like this.
Effortless effort, but its not really effort if that makes sense? :D
yeshee camar
08-11-2015, 10:28 PM
( a got good. a go on-al. yall. peace bigs. make yourself good. )
that an what do you love you for, repeated, passing on sort outs.
that what make sense to you truely, trying it on see if you like it, coming up its fronts.
an say and a do, what really clicks, to making sure it happen.
'that whats mind on - a are we really, progressee, loving it.'
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I think try as hard as possible, otherwise it's just half um... baked.
naturesflow
09-11-2015, 04:21 AM
I think try as hard as possible, otherwise it's just half um... baked.
You mean like my sometime cakes that are raw in the centre...:wink:
One day I will get it right..lol
I think the effortless effort part in this way, is about being more particular, taking more time in doing those things that we can sometimes rush through. Well that is how it feels for me. When I am immersed in something I love or enjoy the trying hard part tends to be effortless. Its those things that you have to do in this world that you might not like doing, but you do have to put effort into them or try in some form to get it done..
naturesflow
09-11-2015, 04:23 AM
( a got good. a go on-al. yall. peace bigs. make yourself good. )
that an what do you love you for, repeated, passing on sort outs.
that what make sense to you truely, trying it on see if you like it, coming up its fronts.
an say and a do, what really clicks, to making sure it happen.
'that whats mind on - a are we really, progressee, loving it.'
: : : : : :
= = = = = = =
Thanks yeshee, I like the point you made about trying it on see if you like it..I think that fits this too. Giving your all, trying hard in that way..I guess this helps you decide how to be the next time and opens up your explorer self and nature to have a go I suppose.
You mean like my sometime cakes that are raw in the centre...:wink:
One day I will get it right..lol
I think the effortless effort part in this way, is about being more particular, taking more time in doing those things that we can sometimes rush through. Well that is how it feels for me. When I am immersed in something I love or enjoy the trying hard part tends to be effortless. Its those things that you have to do in this world that you might not like doing, but you do have to put effort into them or try in some form to get it done..
For me it was like, I have really try as hard as I can to get the sound just right, otherwise I can't get in that groove, so I suggest, always make best efforts, and will feel so much better about all you do.
Deepsoul
09-11-2015, 08:28 AM
This duality stuff is just pumping at the moment does anyone else think? My beautiful Grandad said to me as we cleaned old glass milk bottles together when I was
5yrs old ,If your going to do a job do it well ,never forget that, this cfs thing slows you down so much ,i know it has a spiritual component as it just stops you ,just
came off a massive adrenaline attack, and finally cutting up some meat for kids dinner and I affirmationed I love life its so enjoyable and recieved a eyes flashing then as exhausted
from my adrenaline overload the meat got harder to cut ,so i picked up my determination and i crashed, when i should of valued listening to my bodies signals..
yeshee camar
09-11-2015, 02:06 PM
naturesflow, let me tell you something, as if you have been chosen by light, and obviosly you are..
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Mr Interesting
09-11-2015, 06:09 PM
There is the end product which will be at the end whether we decide it has to be a certain way, as we start, or we let it define itself as we go towards it.
My understanding of striving is almost that argumentative process whereby in setting out we have to reach a specific destination and the plan to get there must be followed which is therefore about having reality conform to those expectations.
And it does work but is somehow pointless as all it ever proves is that which is thought of can come into existence but it is only pointless after it has been tried and made fruitful in the sense that it is proven to work and then that space within the defining of where and how to go becomes almost a waste of time because it empties of significance beside the beginning and the end and so whomever is doing such things realises that boredom within striving and starts to look closer and be closer to what it is that might actually be occurring between those defined beginnings and endings to the extent that eventually the beginnings and endings become meaningless and it is the being within the doing that actually fills out life and makes it meaningful.
MIND POWER
09-11-2015, 07:07 PM
To strive sometimes is to resist something, and its like swimming up stream. Some men and women, kind of like the feeling of this resistance and challenge, so they will always be striving for something (But sometimes what people strive can haunt them and eventually kill them! you see this sometimes with athletes who fall into depression! when they retire! and sometimes commit suicide! and then you have those exhibitionist/stunt men who sometimes die during their challenges! haha #verydramaticpost but its this tinkering with death and failure which makes such prestige an attraction)..........potentially that could be me, how exciting.
But maybe in afew million years when heaven has come to earth, i doubt......i could just sit back and chill! i would probably want to work part time, slaying demons and tormenting evil like batman Nature flows.
Have you got that...? haha.
naturesflow
09-11-2015, 08:26 PM
[QUOTE=yeshee camar]naturesflow, let me tell you something, as if you have been chosen by light, and obviosly you are..
I guess I relate being chosen, as the choice of both my parents and the greater providing a space for me to be born. What and how I live this life, I suppose comes through all those things-
We are all chosen in some way into life if I take this view.
It is what and how I manage the affects of my earth landing and life from that moment of being born, is all.... this might have it appear I or another has been chosen specifically for a purpose of light, but is it really about light? Or is it about taking value in the darkness I was born into, when I couldn't see? I guess we can look at purpose of being in anyway we want too... Anyway, for me it just feels normal and living more open and more fully, as I am and can be.
But thankyou all the same.
naturesflow
09-11-2015, 08:33 PM
To Mr I. (I wiped out your first paragraph)
Yes strive at all costs, to have that end result as we intend it to be in everyway of that result- come hell and high water perhaps, but I guess if we choose that path it still gets us to where we are needed to be anyway, just we choose our own process to get there...:wink:
And it does work but is somehow pointless as all it ever proves is that which is thought of can come into existence but it is only pointless after it has been tried and made fruitful in the sense that it is proven to work and then that space within the defining of where and how to go becomes almost a waste of time because it empties of significance beside the beginning and the end and so whomever is doing such things realises that boredom within striving and starts to look closer and be closer to what it is that might actually be occurring between those defined beginnings and endings to the extent that eventually the beginnings and endings become meaningless and it is the being within the doing that actually fills out life and makes it meaningful.
That is like a peter piper picked a pickled pepper tongue twister to read..lol But I get it..:wink:
naturesflow
09-11-2015, 08:41 PM
To strive sometimes is to resist something, and its like swimming up stream. Some men and women, kind of like the feeling of this resistance and challenge, so they will always be striving for something (But sometimes what people strive can haunt them and eventually kill them! you see this sometimes with athletes who fall into depression! when they retire! and sometimes commit suicide! and then you have those exhibitionist/stunt men who sometimes die during their challenges! haha #verydramaticpost but its this tinkering with death and failure which makes such prestige an attraction)..........potentially that could be me, how exciting.
Geez you should write a dark novel, your good..:wink:
But maybe in afew million years when heaven has come to earth, i doubt......i could just sit back and chill! i would probably want to work part time, slaying demons and tormenting evil like batman Nature flows.
Isn't heaven here and now? Get with the times mate..:tongue:
You can be batman I can be robin then!
Have you got that...? haha.[/QUOTE]
naturesflow
09-11-2015, 08:43 PM
For me it was like, I have really try as hard as I can to get the sound just right, otherwise I can't get in that groove, so I suggest, always make best efforts, and will feel so much better about all you do.
Ok I see.
Kind of like fine tuning as the trying to tune in more so.
Sounds like good suggestion too.
7luminaries
09-11-2015, 09:36 PM
It is about the being within the doing.
For many, or at least for some, setting one's intention is what they actually mean when they think of striving at rest, or even when they perceive themselves striving in action. To me, when I conceive of "striving", it is always regarding striving to better align with spirit. And it's not so much a conscious striving so much as a conscious intention, acceptance, and space-holding.
Because as soon as we realise it is about the being within the doing, we realise it is equally about the doing within the being. It really doesn't matter which perspective we take or embody in any moment, as long as they all have their moment :biggrin:
Peace & blessings,
7L
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