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Heart
15-10-2015, 12:10 AM
I express enlightenment as.........
one step at a time.....
Each step is a leap of faith into the unknown, yet knowing each step will take you to a whole new world of expression. The path is endless so each step has no particular ending or purpose other than to express itself.... infinatly
focusing so much on each step the world just passes you by
Heart
15-10-2015, 12:14 AM
a posible solution for finding enlightenment......
I would then liken the ‘search for enlightenment’ as a very small needle in a giant haystack. The needle represents what it is you are searching for and the haystack being everything you think, speak and do including life’s foibles and the body
The term ‘looking for a needle in a haystack’ depicts an impossible task, as you rumble around the straw the needle just gets more and more hidden, this would be similar to fumbling around a heap of thoughts words and deeds that wont go away because they are still in a heap you are fumbling around in,
It would be a very hard task to do, I know….. but it will not be impossible….
Pick up each straw/thought and declare that it is not a needle/enlightenment
Eventually you will reach the needle
What are you presently seeking for first, The needle or the straw?
You can apply this method for just about anything you wish
naturesflow
15-10-2015, 12:39 AM
Its just a name made up by someone for something they relate too.
I didn't make it up.
Naturally when I read posts like this I want to say this.
What is enlightenment? I don't really know.
Life is just life as it is presenting things to me in a continuous flow, for me to experience myself as I know and don't know myself to be by moving through it all as I choose too move..
Heart
15-10-2015, 01:20 AM
Its just a name made up by someone for something they relate too.
I didn't make it up.
Naturally when I read posts like this I want to say this.
What is enlightenment? I don't really know.
Life is just life as it is presenting things to me in a continuous flow, for me to experience myself as I know and don't know myself to be by moving through it all as I choose too move..
I am using words to describe something that does not exsist, yet in essence there is something to wonder about, otherwise words are signposts to something that is not seen by the mind and incomprehensible with the sences
lol its a paradox
naturesflow
15-10-2015, 02:16 AM
[QUOTE=heart]I am using words to describe something that does not exsist, yet in essence there is something to wonder about, otherwise words are signposts to something that is not seen by the mind and incomprehensible with the sense.
You can wonder about anything in anyway of itself. Words give meaning to experiences to articulate itself as itself knows itself to be in the experience, and of course life goes on and new experiences come by to bring new words and new meanings, bridging old words and old meanings, bringing new you old you as one you, newly revamped, stamped, stomped on you know what you know, then you know more or less and it gets tricky and interesting..
I wonder what the meaning of life is?
lol its a paradox
Is it a laughing paradox? Or did you mean Lay off listening? :wink:
cho ku rei..ay?
BlueSky
15-10-2015, 02:19 AM
If there were no words, there would be nothing beyond words.
So in essence the words and what is beyond them imply each other, support each other, bring into existence each other.
ocean breeze
15-10-2015, 02:51 AM
If i were awake i would express it in everything i do.
Deepsoul
15-10-2015, 04:03 AM
Confushus say ,enlightenment happen when you least expect.....No really I said that.......feeling a bit crazy today...If Im able to connect with myself and the divine and then peacefully see or be shown where change is needed or that its all cruising along fine,thats great , but also even though its good not to judge and keep peaceful etc etc ,our emotions cant be ignored as eventually they will need honoring ,but usually I try to be strong and good and finally burst in tears from the stress of this or that, just builds up and the enlightenment there is that thats ok,,,Im getting better at being strong again but a good cry can be very cathartic...:sad7:
running
15-10-2015, 07:53 AM
For me the process has to do with opening myself up to spirit. Then it becoming me. What happens simply is that the spirit works its way through the body. And then it begins to feed you through the nervous system. The depth of it may be endless. I dont know? But its very real and easy to identify when it begins to happen. That would be along the lines of an energetic awakening.
Physcological enlightement or awakening i believe could be what ever ones mind conjurs up. Its perhaps endless to. For me i venture towards the energetic. But philosophy is not left out for me. Its just not where my focus is so much.
Deepsoul
15-10-2015, 08:08 AM
Love that running ,that really is it when that spirit of love is flowing through you its so much easier and everything falls into place thoughts are perfect and aligned and you are in a different space ,really cruisin, Jesus does it for me ,we are fully connected ,I think Jesus is so much more than we understand he like has the link to the light and love and goodness and I just have to think about Him and things start going good but funnily enough I fall away too but that seems to be a part of the process ,its like I can really see the difference in me when I try go alone and all manner of bad habits and unresolved issues start playing out but thats ok we need a little of that so we then return to source and be healed..and know its supernatural power...:color:
WhiteWarrior
15-10-2015, 11:57 AM
Enlightenment is...
...realizing that there was something that was unknown to you just a little while ago, but which you have learned now.
Then realizing that in just a little time ahead, you will learn something new that changes what you know now.
naturesflow
15-10-2015, 12:08 PM
Enlightenment is...
...realizing that there was something that was unknown to you just a little while ago, but which you have learned now.
Then realizing that in just a little time ahead, you will learn something new that changes what you know now.
That could be classified as clarity, or awareness or realization though..
Ravenspirit
15-10-2015, 12:24 PM
Being in the moment and being content with that, with just Being. Chasing it I think it's likely you will never find it. Most of my life I felt like a rodent running on an exercise wheel. Running and running, but never getting anywhere. It wasn't until one day I just said "Enough!" and jumped down off the wheel and sat down that I finally felt at peace.
Whatever journey I am on I'm not going to get there any faster by chasing enlightenment or whatever you want to call that experience and I'm at the point where that is not even a goal because I just don't see the point to making it one. If the journey is never ending so what? I'm cool with that. I'm fine with going where I want, taking my time, and maybe never arriving at a destination. Look down at my sig line. I think that quote says it all....
knightofalbion
15-10-2015, 01:04 PM
What is enlightenment?
Recognising Universal Spirit, though that is merely the beginning ...
Quickly followed by humility at one's past ignorance and acknowledgement of one's present ignorance and awe at the heights to be scaled - but resolve to scale them all the same.
Miss Hepburn
15-10-2015, 01:11 PM
I wouldn't...enlightenment now has as many concepts and baggage
with the word as God does.
Molearner
15-10-2015, 01:59 PM
What is enlightenment?
Recognising Universal Spirit, though that is merely the beginning ...
Quickly followed by humility at one's past ignorance and acknowledgement of one's present ignorance and awe at the heights to be scaled - but resolve to scale them all the same.
knightofalbion,
This is a definition...an explanation.......that totally resonates with me. I appreciate that it is concise and does not confuse itself(or us) with needless detail.
Jyotir
15-10-2015, 02:14 PM
Hi heart,
Enlightenment by its very nature directs its own expression.
~ J
Deepsoul
15-10-2015, 09:02 PM
:hug3: Good one Knighto...:hug3:
Heart
15-10-2015, 10:42 PM
Thank you all for your response, I would respond to individual posts here and each one is awsome... I will respond with one posting here as I see a patern arising in this thread
It is very hard to define enlightenment as each and every one of us has a perception of something that may or may not exsist.
yet I read each and every response and get the feeling that something is a knowing living presence just beyond the veils of our sences
as Pluto once said "you will never come into the form of man if you have never seen the truth"
so there is something that the heart and soul in each and every one of us that searches for something we may never know with our words or thinking
thank you
naturesflow
15-10-2015, 11:12 PM
[QUOTE=heart]Thank you all for your response, I would respond to individual posts here and each one is awsome... I will respond with one posting here as I see a patern arising in this thread
It is very hard to define enlightenment as each and every one of us has a perception of something that may or may not exsist.
Its nothing or anything you want it to be..like everything in life that you create meaning from. We are life..
yet I read each and every response and get the feeling that something is a knowing living presence just beyond the veils of our sences
Its all here and now. The veil is your creation. It is both the knowing and unknown of life in creation of itself...You, me them, they, we, those, him, her are life as the living presence..(sense is spelt this way by the way:wink: )
SilentLegend
16-10-2015, 02:36 AM
I think I would express it as being so totally secure in yourself that you are in a permanent state of fearlessness and authenticity.
It would be impossible for you to ever act out of deceit or envy, because you will never fear judgement/embarrassment/shame from others.
I would think of it as being comfortable in your own skin x 100000000000000000000000.
I don't know if this is what enlightenment actually is, but this is all I would ever want.
Timeless
16-10-2015, 04:28 AM
Enlightenment is more so an act than anything else. You are just simply allowing everything to be, and in the meantime you have this tremendous energy that comes along. It's not really knowledge. Yes you need knowledge perhaps to reach enlightenment, but that's not what it is. You can know everything in the world, but if you never cease to think or just simply be...how can you ever be enlightened? Enlightenment is emptiness. And also a sense of ease with this emptiness.
Enlightenment comes with trust in the self, which goes hand in hand with trust in nature. You allow things to just happen, and not force anything. You do not try to play the role of God. A lot of surrendering must take place for true enlightenment to happen.
naturesflow
16-10-2015, 05:17 AM
Enlightenment is more so an act than anything else. You are just simply allowing everything to be, and in the meantime you have this tremendous energy that comes along. It's not really knowledge. Yes you need knowledge perhaps to reach enlightenment, but that's not what it is. You can know everything in the world, but if you never cease to think or just simply be...how can you ever be enlightened? Enlightenment is emptiness. And also a sense of ease with this emptiness.
Enlightenment comes with trust in the self, which goes hand in hand with trust in nature. You allow things to just happen, and not force anything. You do not try to play the role of God. A lot of surrendering must take place for true enlightenment to happen.
Yes when another says "you do not" my feelers go up and reflect through this and then I wonder...
Is that allowing or speaking a conditioned idea?
Lucyan28
16-10-2015, 03:28 PM
For me pure Love is enlightenment (the truth, the answer)
Feeling pure Love is like returning back to home, warm, in perfect peace, nothing else is necessary, and somehow an expansion of consciousness occurs, it's like being connected and merged with everything, that's the purpose of existence.. I guess... :D
I really don't know if enlightenment is something different from Love, you know like super-powers or incredible wisdom or becoming a god... but for me Love is everything, I would happily expend all the eternities of all the universes feeling and sharing this pure Love :love2: :love2:
running
16-10-2015, 07:37 PM
Love that running ,that really is it when that spirit of love is flowing through you its so much easier and everything falls into place thoughts are perfect and aligned and you are in a different space ,really cruisin, Jesus does it for me ,we are fully connected ,I think Jesus is so much more than we understand he like has the link to the light and love and goodness and I just have to think about Him and things start going good but funnily enough I fall away too but that seems to be a part of the process ,its like I can really see the difference in me when I try go alone and all manner of bad habits and unresolved issues start playing out but thats ok we need a little of that so we then return to source and be healed..and know its supernatural power...:color:
Thanks and for sharing your experience with Jesus
ocean breeze
16-10-2015, 07:39 PM
Seems like most are answering "what is enlightenment?" rather than "how would you express it?"
Mr Interesting
16-10-2015, 07:53 PM
It's like the espresso coffee thing which is well endowed in our world view and maybe even in years to come the humble peasant will also take his long black through this esteem-able Italian invention.
But like the coffee guru said it's the beans that count. It's having a grinder ready to break out that inner magnificence and not have it tainted long by the airs of storing, keeping back, and that then it is only a matter of heat; not to boiling as it'll burn the fragile aromas but a sure 91 degrees and no more.
Lucyan28
16-10-2015, 08:02 PM
Seems like most are answering "what is enlightenment?" rather than "how would you express it?"
So True ! Well I love you guys :love2: there that's how I express it !
ocean breeze
17-10-2015, 08:17 AM
So True ! Well I love you guys :love2: there that's how I express it !
So you're saying your enlightened? Or that's how you would express it if you were enlightened? By just saying, "i love guys."
Free1
17-10-2015, 09:07 AM
It is expressed always, but you do not express it. ;)
https://i.imgflip.com/sols5.jpg
Serenity69
19-10-2015, 09:06 AM
http://www.newworldlibrary.com/ArticleDetails/tabid/230/ArticleID/29/Default.aspx#.ViSyYOnwvcs
Lucyan28
19-10-2015, 01:49 PM
So you're saying your enlightened? Or that's how you would express it if you were enlightened? By just saying, "i love guys."
Hi ocean, we all are :wink:
The light is always within us, always! Pure Love is the universe core energy and we all are manifestations of the whole, so whenever we're feeling Love we could say we're in the enlightenment state.
Nettles
19-10-2015, 06:21 PM
For me it comes in moments, happiness is the same. So many strive for happiness, I strive for contentment, it is a much more achievable goal in the day to day mundane world.
I think that enlightenment comes in moments or brief periods of time, like happiness, these moments are meant to be cherished, learned from and cherished again. Sure, it would be groovy to feel enlightened all the time but we don't live in that kind of a world. In the world we live in it would be exhausting to be in a perpetually enlightened state.
The best we can do is "Be Here Now" as Ram Dass is fond of saying.
Also, enlightenment is not a goal, it is a lifestyle, it's ongoing. One doesn't reach enlightenment and say, "OK, I'm done." LoL- Of course I doubt I need to clarify that.....if that were the case the end result would be stagnation.
Iamfree
20-10-2015, 07:42 PM
Knowing what you are, knowing the Self. When you know your Self you are enlightened.
Very few people can say that they know what their Self is. i'm not talking about a theoretical level here, that's believing, but actually KNOWING.
linen53
20-10-2015, 08:37 PM
How would I express enlightenment?
Understanding the tapestry from the underside of the piece, not the top.
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