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05-01-2011, 06:53 PM
I've mentioned this in the thread on the Flu...but I figured I'd start a thread on it as I don't know how many people (at least here in the US) have used this or know about its properties.

What got me started on this was when I had read in my Republic of Tea magazine about Sea Buckthorn Green Tea - it is consumed by Germans and others living in the Baltic area (a place where I spent much of my life!...and even my Finnish lifetime!).

I went to try to find the 'fruit' oil, not just the seed oil. I managed to get some of the dried fruit encapsulated via Vitacost's site, but they ran out when I had wanted to get a refill this month.

I just went back again and instead purchased something a bit more - it is the fruit and seed oil encapsulated in a soft-gel form.

This year was the first year I've used the Sea Buckthorn and compared even to the Eleuthero/Siberian Ginseng that I used to use - for me this works far better concerning cold/flu protection.

What I bought from Vitacost was:

Balanceuticals Sea Buckthorn Oil - 120 softgels

Ingredients: Made of wild seabuckthorn Oil (seed and fruit oil), this product cotains more than 160 nutrients including essential fatty acids including linolenic acid (Omega 3), linoleic acid (Omega 6), palmitoleic acid (Omega 7) and oleic acid (Omega 9), carotenoids, flavonoids, phytosterols, vitamins A, C, E, B1, B2, K, P, trace elements, etc.
Here is the Wiki link for it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea-buckthorn (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FSea-buckthorn)

The common sea-buckthorn (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FHippophae_rhamnoides) (Hippophae rhamnoides) is by far the most widespread of the species in the genus, with the ranges of its eight subspecies extending from the Atlantic coasts of Europe right across to northwestern China. In western Europe, it is largely confined to sea coasts where salt spray off the sea prevents other larger plants from out-competing it, but in central Asia it is more widespread in dry semi-desert sites where other plants cannot survive the dry conditions. In central Europe and Asia it also occurs as a subalpine shrub above tree line (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FTree_line) in mountains, and other sunny areas such as river banks. They are tolerant of salt (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FSodium_chloride) in the air and soil, but demand full sunlight for good growth and do not tolerate shady conditions near larger trees. They typically occur in dry, sandy areas.
On a side note - there are jams made with this too...different types of foods:


05-01-2011, 07:03 PM
I'm so happy that you put the pictures, I then recognized it as tyrni, a very valued plant in Finland. In the resent years many farmers have started cultivating it because the demand is much greater than the supply.
My grandfather (who used to walk 10 km every morning when he woke up, and only then enjoy his milk, porridge and coffee) collected sap from the birch trees in spring time and froze it into ice cubes for wintertime.
Here's info of birch sap:

05-01-2011, 07:07 PM
Hey Sira :)

Cool! Yes when I was a Finnish sailor way back in the 19th century - I remember the plant too. That's good news to hear about the cultivation of it!

Birch sap - I've heard of that, but I have never tried it. There are Birch trees where I live (the White Birch ones)...but unfortunately it's only been Sugar Maple sap (rendered into syrup) that I've had.

I do miss those things...those connections to the land there (the Baltic region) that I had...

05-01-2011, 07:09 PM
I do miss those things...those connections to the land there (the Baltic region) that I had...
You know, it is and will always be your land... it carries your light, too. :hug2:

05-01-2011, 07:13 PM
Awww...*happy tear*

I just can't relate to the American culture and way of life...not that it's wrong or bad, etc. but I can't relate to it. I wasn't born here...I didn't grow up here.

Even during my lifetime when I lived in Germany I visited Finland, but I can't remember what for...:redface:

05-01-2011, 07:28 PM
I remember one life in Germany, thousands of years ago. I was a hunter and our family group would move with the game.
I had a very strong dream where I was also in Germany, I was standing in a forest at the river bank. Then I saw huge mallard ducks, human size, sleeping in the forest. While I was watching, they turned into humans, much like American Indians. The leader, an old man, walked to me, did not say a word, but blew air in my mouth. The message was, "you have hurt enough of the nature now, it is your time to start loving it". And slowly the group started moving deeper into the forest. Their presence felt... holy.
There is some bond between Germans and Finns, it feels like there has always been. Even the old Hakkapeliitta went to Germany to steal women to Finland! And Finland fought with Germany in the WWII. :cool:

05-01-2011, 07:35 PM
Oh yeah that's cool. :)

When I was a sailor I had been from Rauma - and I had read some, my name was Jukka, and that came to me in a dream. I knew it was Finnish too before I even looked it up.

What I read of Rauma was there was a dialect that was a blend of German, Swedish and Finnish - but it's not really spoken anymore.

I do know about the WWII connections - on the one reenacting forum I visit there's folks that do WWII Finnish impressions and there are 'units' too.

I had even thought of putting together a WWII Finnish impression - just for walking out (no rifle or anything)...but I don't think it would be easy...and then the cost on top of that.

So - I keep two Finnish coins for now. Been trying to think of some other things I can do...

05-01-2011, 07:42 PM
Now that I'm already totally off-topic, just this more. My favourite Finnish march (hmmm, feels like there's some release work to be done in this subject):

05-01-2011, 07:44 PM
Cool! ...I recorded Sibelius' 'Finlandia' off of YouTube (I've managed to figure out how to record music from YouTube hee hee)

05-01-2011, 07:47 PM
At 1.44 in the video - are those women Lottas?

05-01-2011, 07:53 PM
Oh, yes, lottas. =)
And by the way, there is a release going on. I am listening to that march over and over again, while crying and feeling the deepest gratitude towards our grandparents... <3

05-01-2011, 07:55 PM
Oh wow! :)

Yep I read about them on the reenacting forum (it's Axis - all countries Axis) - that is a cool march! Thanks for sharing it! :)

and also...thanks for cheering me up too...made my day with your comment. *hug*

05-01-2011, 07:57 PM
I think at this point of time we are here for each other... *hugs* <3

05-01-2011, 08:04 PM
Thankfully...man...I've been having a really rough time with my life lately...and really feeling disconnected...just like a speck of dust floating around...trying to find some direction in my life.

Feel free to email me if you like. *hugs back*

Oh - and it's nice to talk about history with you too. :)

05-01-2011, 08:09 PM
Yeah, this awakening process makes us so vulnerable, the rawness of the humankind just peels everything away, not to mention the disconnection from everything. And still I believe everything will be alright. By the way, I had a nasty poltergeist spirit with me a couple of years, really trying to scare me in many ways. I started studying him and found out that he had died in a battle of Kollaa and got stuck at Earth plane. When I realized that he was still in the energy of the war, I was able to help him out and get a release from here. His name was Mikko and he was quite a handful, lol! Blessings to him wherever he is now... :hug3:

05-01-2011, 08:17 PM
Yeah that's what happens to me - I'm quite vulnerable in more ways than one and many of my vulnerabilities I don't think people stop to really understand or think about - which, I can understand to an extent...

I've been clearing out so much lately - I'm using Homeopathic remedies, and will be using essences - that...as someone put it years ago...like an egg without a shell. I guess when I become more like this - I also turn into an urchin with its spikes sticking out...to keep people at a distance.

And I hate this...but I have a tendency to feel peoples' energy via the internet too...I hate it...I don't even like bringing it up...but sometimes I can just 'tell' or 'see' without even consciously trying to...peoples' true intentions. My one friend calls it a '** Detector'...and I hate it....

So I got all that going on with being so danged isolated...I don't have my true family since I didn't reincarnate by birth...I'm stuck in a country that I really can't relate to...in a time period that I can't relate to...I hate it...I hate this isolation.

I think there are many 'earthbounds' due to war trauma...the shock from dying so suddenly...you don't realize you're dead.

05-01-2011, 08:27 PM
Exactly. There is so much terror in war, I understand Kollaa was a really tricky place to die, that... you don't get to prepare to die. All the dead people that I was involved with in the first two and a half years had experienced a sudden death. I am so grateful to the people who are helping them out. Those 2.5 years really exhausted me to the point when I decided that I have done my share, others will continue.
I also feel people's energies over Internet and I want to share this with you, because I learnt the hard way. A being can wear a shield that projects your Light and Love back at you, and you think that you have found something beautiful. I was sending my Love to many people wearing this shield (I actually think that they are a cult) and was amazed at how wonderfully shiny they were, until I woke up from a state of being literally a zombie. I had let my guards down and they were able to draw my energies while I was not paying attention. This took away my faith to people for some weeks, when I realized that I cannot continue in total separation, and found this site. I am still not fully the Light I was before, but I work to get back there.
I know you shield yourself, because you have been through a lot. But I see you and you are beautiful.

05-01-2011, 09:00 PM
I had to look up Kollaa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kollaa) - I've thought, as I said about putting together a WWII Finnish impression, but then I thought to myself, "Where the heck would I even start?" I wouldn't know where to begin with research or anything...I wouldn't know what rank to be at the age of 30 (I'll be 31 this year). But I will read about Kollaa.

I have had some terrible experiences with the internet and people...horrible...the worst was when I was on a spiritual board (now defunct I might add) where I met someone and this person turned out to not only do ID theft to me on my credit cards, but was also a con artist. I was very vulnerable then because I was very ill with so many problems...and she got away with it. I had even gone to the police and nothing was done really...so I had to file bankruptcy. It embarrasses me to say it - but it happened. I can't undo that sort of thing.

I've also had a terrible time on MySpace 4 years ago...horrible wicked woman made an imposter profile of me and thankfully one of my WWII reenacting buddies informed me - as this happened over night and I woke up to deal with a good 2-3 days of hell. She had sent me a very vile message saying something along the lines of 'it's only a computer it doesn't have feelings'...just really cold hearted stuff...and also saying on the imposter profile that I go around befriending people and then breaking their hearts. *sighs*

I'm glad you're able to see beyond the 'dark shield' I guess you could say that I keep...not many can - they just see someone who is probably violent, evil, likes to see things suffer, etc.

But they don't know me...

I'm glad to have met you. *hugs*