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SkyeSpitfire
11-08-2014, 10:14 PM
I was curious to know your thoughts about determining a real lightworker from, say, someone who merely comes across as kind and helpful purely for show?

I met someone once who had all the 'qualities' of a Lightworker (she would go out of her way to prove what a 'good' person she believed she was) but from the get-go I had a bad feeling about her. As time went on, it transpired she wasn't what she appeared on the outside.

Anyone can call themselves a Lightworker but this doesn't mean they truly are. Also, from my experience, a Lightworker can also be someone who appears 'dark' but in reality they have entered the darkness in order to battle it.

I guess it may seem a silly question because maybe the only answer is by following your intuition..

LadyMay
11-08-2014, 10:28 PM
There are a lot that claim to be Lightworkers.. a lot of these tend to deceive people. And then there are those Lightworkers who are unconscious and in the dark as you say and are totally unaware to what they're here to do.

But you've already given yourself the answer. You got a bad vibe from this lady which means her vibration was not up to scratch and she was putting on a show.

People who use the term 'Lightworker' to reinforce a sense of self are not likely to be legitimate.

Rah nam
11-08-2014, 11:07 PM
Skye I would agree with you in regards to the silliness of the question.
How would you see the one who questions someone else attempt to serve?

SkyeSpitfire
12-08-2014, 03:49 AM
Easily, Rah Nam. If the attempt was marred by deceit, dishonesty, treachery and the like, then I think I'm well within my rights to question how others themselves would differentiate between knowing the real thing and the false thing.

That's providing I understood your question correctly because it didn't really make sense. Unless you want to rephrase it.

My alluding to it being 'silly' was more directed towards myself as I can only use my intuition; however, I'm clueless as to what others use to make the distinction.

Nameless
12-08-2014, 05:11 AM
I'm not exactly sure what a lightworker is either. The closest definition I can come up with is from Orin, channeled by Sanaya Roman. He calls himself a Being of Light. Her book, Soul Love, explains who and what he is and how to share in the Light - pretty amazing reading.

I posted this in the channeled section today. I ran across it in my bookmarks - don't know where I got it from - maybe someone here, but I just read it - and it seems to fit here. I found it full of loving energy - it felt really good. It is from about 1995 or 1996, and some of it has come to pass, and some didn't, but got a lot out of it.

http://world.std.com/~snet/metatron.htm

Metatron on the Ascension - as I understand it, Metatron is like the King of the Angels.

sarek
02-09-2014, 11:28 AM
What matters mostly to me in the definition is that you have to have not only a sense of service but that you also have a clear sense within you about why you are doing what you do. This mostly manifests as a desire for 'a better world' and indeed even an ingrained notion that such a better world is possible, but you do not always necessarily know how to work towards it.

Most drives and urges within a person are egoic. The sense of mission however, feels more like it is "in your blood"

Many are lost and wandering even now. But sooner or later for all lightworkers their mission and purpose will become clear.

At the very least, when considering yourself a lightworker, it is essential that you continuously, relentlessly work on self awareness with an aim toward continuous personal improvement. A lightworker never considers theirself as a finished product.

Megamedes
06-09-2014, 05:03 PM
As well as light can blind you so can darkness enlighten you.

Lightworking is about lightening the world not bring light into it. Light is a force of both life and destruction and it dances on a thin line. Without darkness it cannot balance. Light is the force of good and evil (read duality), darkness is something that balances duality; the way sound without silence is just noise. I have to say that just because you do not agree with her reasons or way of helping others does not mean what she does is not lightworking. I once helped one by completely wrapping her in dark energy while she slept; this did amazing things that no amount of light energy could have done.

LilMariposa85
14-09-2014, 06:52 PM
Yeah. You pretty much answered your own question. It all comes down to intuition. I have met some and thought, "POSER!" and I have met others and thought, "That's the real deal right there."

LilMariposa85
14-09-2014, 06:54 PM
As well as light can blind you so can darkness enlighten you.

Lightworking is about lightening the world not bring light into it. Light is a force of both life and destruction and it dances on a thin line. Without darkness it cannot balance. Light is the force of good and evil (read duality), darkness is something that balances duality; the way sound without silence is just noise. I have to say that just because you do not agree with her reasons or way of helping others does not mean what she does is not lightworking. I once helped one by completely wrapping her in dark energy while she slept; this did amazing things that no amount of light energy could have done.

For starters..........Lightworking IS about bring light to the world. Thats what lightworkers are. Beacons of light. And secondly, wrapping someone in dark energy while they sleep doesn't help them at all.

Megamedes
14-09-2014, 07:59 PM
For starters..........Lightworking IS about bring light to the world. Thats what lightworkers are. Beacons of light.

Shine upon the path that is unlit; close the drapes from the light that blinds you. To me it is all about balance which comes from a point of being unconditional in ones expression. I have that in me, though these days it seem to shine less than it once did, yet brighter than it ever did.

And secondly, wrapping someone in dark energy while they sleep doesn't help them at all.

On this I like to differ for one simple reason and that is: it helped :hug2:

Blue Cat
09-11-2014, 08:37 AM
The actions of a light worker define them. An extreme example, would be a German fellow who had volunteered his time to work with the lepers in Calcutta. He was mentioned in a book that I read (not sure if I'm allowed to mention the book). The author was amazed that this gruff fellow was even here because as far as he could tell he wasn't a member of any religion, he was just there to help. When the author, began to learn from this gruff German fellow how to change the bandages of the lepers, one of them said, "namaste." He had never heard that term before. But it was explained to him that they honor the creator inside him. But it was his act of love that made them recognize it in him. Namaste

Blue Cat
10-11-2014, 12:19 AM
I am by no means a religious expert. I am pretty knowledgeable in the bible and protestant christianity. But I have been exposed to other religions through college and just asking others about their religion out of fasination.

One of the many many universal spiritual concepts that I have come across. Is that when you perform acts of kindness for someone in need, for the sake of the fact that it just needed to be done. You are rewarding yourself in the afterlife.

A lightworker would be surprised to be labeled a "lightworker". It takes someone else to see that fruit of their labor. They helped because the need was there. They would even feel awkward if a news crew wanted to interview them for the deed.

There is a danger, or a consequence. If someone performs acts of kindness for the sake of getting recognition in this world, then that is the only reward that they get. It is in the bible, but also in the teachings of Buddha (releasing attachments to this world, and therefore suffering), Wicca, the Tora, the Quaran.

I am not saying that people are evil for wanting the recognition for good deeds. That is not even realistic. God/The Universe/Brahman/The Source, is nurturing and does not give up on your growth as a lightworker/Agape practitioner/searcher for enlightenment. :angel4:

Badbody6
02-12-2014, 06:21 PM
Hi, your intuition will always tell you the truth, but remember as lightworkers we are in a human body and always subject to experiences.

venturer
03-12-2014, 07:12 AM
You may want to read THE JESHUA CHANNELINGS: Christ consciousness in a new era by Pamela Kribbe. It explains clearly what the characteristics of a lightworker are, why they feel the need to help humanity and the stages that lightworkers go through. I never considered myself to be a lightworker until I read the book. Basically, a lightworker is different from others in they have a long relationship with humanity and not always as a human. They are now, and have been for a log time, reincarnating as a human as they feel they owe it to humanity to help bring them back to the light after contributing to pull them/us down into the dark for such a long time.

Everly
08-12-2014, 06:58 AM
http://world.std.com/~snet/metatron.htm


Wow. Thank you for posting the link! As I read it, I recalled reading it many years ago. I agree that it's interesting.

Metatron is tough to channel. For the genuine Metatron channelers, it's easy to trip over the technical, time and event issues. (I'm taking some heat here for my belief that not all who claim to channel are actually channeling.)

Ezisme
11-12-2014, 07:05 AM
Hey Skye
Never silly to ask as one way or another you still got your answer :)
Its all about intuition/feeling the truth because if you are relying on external projections they more often than not tend to be misleading. You had a bad vibe about this person and it is a sign that they are not meant to be someone that you work with. This doesn't always mean that they are 'bad' as such, simply that they may have their own things to learn and cannot be of assistance to you on your path. In saying that, yes - some people give the appearance of a 'light-worker' or related label, but have a energy vampire nature. If you feel drained for no reason, have headaches when they contact you or related symptoms it is possible that this is the case and you need to cleanse your energy and work at guarding yourself from their effects.
Hope that helped. :)

Feathers
04-01-2015, 07:56 AM
If someone says they are of light, but you feel their energy is different, then the best you can do is leave them to their journey. We have to stop judging others and work on our own paths. You cannot change others you can only light your own way and hope that light helps others to see.....my thoughts... feathers

jonesboy
23-04-2015, 04:04 PM
The light body is also known as the illusory body in Buddhism. It is achieved after someone has opened all of there chakras.

It truly is light that radiates from them. The light effects all those around them. Hitting and removing obstructions. Sometimes the light hitting on others obstructions can be to much and can cause issues for those around a being of light.

Someone will know if they are light :) it is a very advanced stage. It is truly the beginning of spirtuality if you ask me. Many things and siddhis are possible once the light body is realized.

Hope this helps.

jonesboy
23-04-2015, 04:35 PM
Here (http://community.livingunbound.net/index.php/topic/396-questions-from-the-road/) is a question and answer of me and my guru talking about the process of going light.

Hi Tom,



Happy to chat with you...

You have talked about how people can transmit light. What does that mean?

I tend to say transmit, but I more sort of mean that the light (beyond energy) flow through. After the seven main chakra all open, they then begin to kind of integrate into more of a unified field. That unified field is often also called the beginning of the "light body". In mystical Christianity, it would be called the realization of the soul. In buddhism, it is the realization of "emptiness of self". I also sometimes call it beginning to perceive beyond local body-mind.

Are there any prerequisites for someone to be able to do so? i.e. open chakras, etc..

There are not really prerequisites, but there is always the balancing component in the energy body. Kind of like two sides of the same coin. Hence, a light body is like a refined chakra body, this is also why traditions like in taoism describe the process as refining energy to higher levels.

Are there any references in the various religions?

Yes, as with the examples above, there are many. While they do not all necessarily describe the same thing, they all do sort of head in same direction (just with different words).

Once one is able to do this, is it's continuation dependent on the guru?

A true guru is more like someone who helps opens the door, or puts a crack in the local body-mind "wall". Realizing the "light" is to "know" that the wall was never really there. Ones view was just obstructed...

Once one starts to "transmit light" many have reported having dreams or that they can feel it flowing from them. Is this a common experience?

Everything that is "experienced" happens at both a conscious and subconscious level. Things are also happening at infinitely deeper levels than what are normally noticed. When we sleep, one often drops down into the subconscious aspects. So when we start to radiate "light" it is common to first notice it in a dream (or subconsciously) before the clarity is such that we notice it at a normal conscious level.

I have heard that there is a male energy and a female energy to the light. Can you explain what that means?

Light itself is neither male or female, but all energy or light has both transmission and reception. Like polarities, transmission is often translated at a human mind level as male, and reception as female. While our perceived physical form may be either male or female, at deeper levels in consciousness (or at the soul level) we are all both male and female

When working with the energy or light. Does it help with removing ones obstructions or helping with the removing of others obstructions?

When one works with energy or light, rather than feeling or noticing the flow, they are actually noticing the flow sort of "hitting" issues and obstructions. That hitting brings issues and fears into the conscious mind so that they can potentially be faced and let go (or dropped). At higher levels, one also radiates that energy/light which can "hit" their issue and fears.

But, the important part is actually letting things go, otherwise that increased flow can lead to some headaches

As one starts upon the path there seems to be a progression of the male and female energies towards union, of realization that there is only light. Can you go into more detail on the male (transmission) and female (reception) attributes?

Light can be a tough word to use/define. Often people confuse it with visible concepts of light in mind, it may be better to say that as one breaks beyond the perception of local body-mind, they first hits sort of a "universal human" layer. This is also sometimes called realizing the "soul" or sometimes "emptiness of self". At this "light level", one can begin to differentiate both male and female energies/components. All form/energy has sort of two polarities... transmission and reception. Most commonly transmission is associated with male and reception & return (or creation) with female. At that "level" we are both male and female (or neither), but we tend to lean more one direction or another which leads to our manifest physical forms.

Can you explain what happens, what it may feel like when working with the transmission and reception attributes of the light?

When working with someone at a light transmission level, it is kind of like overlapping concentric circles with an energy/light loop created at the "form" layer. Light and energy flow, but often at a level of mind beyond most peoples conscious perception. Hence it can feel like flowing energy, tingles or vibrations in the body. Some people also often naturally translate the flows in their mind into visual aspects. Early on this may be like bright lights, but with greater discrimination one can actually see and feel sort mental translations of the perceived energy bodies. The greater the trust and intimacy, the greater the perceived intimacy of the imagery. Often the dropping of these mental barriers can be seen in shifts in the clothing of the other party.


Would you classify this as a tantric practice?

You could definitely call the male-female loop a tantric practice as the mind often translates it into it at an energy level. But, in the purest sense of the word, it is more of a hybrid process. Tantric usually means "energy" practice, the loop that you are asking about is more of a "draw" with a return, rather than the direct sharing of energy with something like Shaktipat.

Bramble
24-04-2015, 08:59 PM
I've been told many times that I am a lightworker but I am really struggling with this! And this is because I totally agree with what you have said before. My mission on this planet is clearly to spread love. I have been here many times and it seems that in this life my ability to do this has developed much further than I have ever imagined. The last 3 years have been a roller coaster journey, this year alone has presented so many challenges, so much learning, so much insight. Being extremely introvert certainly puts a barrier to going out of my way to help people. Trust and confidence are real issues for me. The Angels keep telling me confidence confidence confidence, and I know 100% that I can trust them to support me. I get the feeling that once I sort out this trust issue everything else will fall into place, and I will be able to do what I am here to do.
Love
Bramble

Bramble
24-04-2015, 10:11 PM
I've been told many times that I am a lightworker but I am really struggling with this! And this is because I totally agree with what you have said before. My mission on this planet is clearly to spread love. I have been here many times and it seems that in this life my ability to do this has developed much further than I have ever imagined. The last 3 years have been a roller coaster journey, this year alone has presented so many challenges, so much learning, so much insight. Being extremely introvert certainly puts a barrier to going out of my way to help people. Trust and confidence are real issues for me. The Angels keep telling me confidence confidence confidence, and I know 100% that I can trust them to support me. I get the feeling that once I sort out this trust issue everything else will fall into place, and I will be able to do what I am here to do.
Love
Bramble

Neville
24-04-2015, 10:31 PM
I questioned this, particularly as altruism feeds a person..selfless then or selfish ?..The decision to pursue the path of the Lightworker has it's motivations, presumably..Most decisions are made for a reason...

This lends itself to another question.. those that are naturally, innately lightworkers may well indeed be taken to be Lightworkers..where as personal choice did not, never enter the matter, as philanthropic pursuits are mostly just that . a means to a kind of personal fulfillment, therefore not so selfless.

Tobi
24-04-2015, 11:24 PM
I feel that many things we do are not purely selfless, even the most loving acts of kindness. Even when they are intended to be such, and there is no reflecting on any 'good deeds'.
These acts all shine through the Heart of the one who initiates them, and the one who works with them partakes of them. I don't think that can be helped or should even be avoided. There is maybe no harm in that at all? Maybe it's a part of realising "All is One"?
Spiritual pride, of course, being a different matter.

blackraven
22-05-2015, 01:10 PM
I was curious to know your thoughts about determining a real lightworker from, say, someone who merely comes across as kind and helpful purely for show?

I met someone once who had all the 'qualities' of a Lightworker (she would go out of her way to prove what a 'good' person she believed she was) but from the get-go I had a bad feeling about her. As time went on, it transpired she wasn't what she appeared on the outside.

Anyone can call themselves a Lightworker but this doesn't mean they truly are. Also, from my experience, a Lightworker can also be someone who appears 'dark' but in reality they have entered the darkness in order to battle it.

I guess it may seem a silly question because maybe the only answer is by following your intuition..

SkyeSpitfire - Several years ago I was in quite a distraught place and the only thing I thought would help me was someone other than myself, what I thought was a gifted person. I found an add advertising a lightworker in my town so with a money gift that I received I spent it on a session with her. From the outside of her house everything seemed positive with lots of wind chimes, flowers and a quaint stone path leading to her door. I didn't know what to expect. The woman was very short and stout and had an extremely high pitched voice, almost like she inhaled helium. Inside were large crystals and angel figurines placed throughout the living room. She had me lie down on her couch and she interviewed me from an easy chair. She asked a lot of person questions and then when she started a reading on me she regurgitated information that I had already given her, all except she said "you might want to watch your right hip because I see future problems with that."

Anyway, half way through the session I got a very bad feeling about being there in this strangers house, paying her money and being so gullible. But things really took an odd turn when she asked me who my soul mate was and when I answered I heard a very loud and deep (almost demonic) voice say in my ear "Nooooooooo". After that I just wanted to get out of there and felt I had been tricked into trusting someone that called themself a lightworker. I asked if I could use her bathroom. When I came out, I told her I had to leave because I had some place to be. She said, "You are a lightworker and you have a portal in your attic that you are attracting the spirit world through." I just paid her and left.

After being back home and carrying on with my life, for several weeks I felt uneasy about work, home life, family, my purpose and became depressed and anxious. I started having nightmares and the paranormal activity picked up in my house.

To this day I don't know who or what that woman was, but I trust my instincts and when those instincts told me to cut ties with her immediately, I did.

I can't say that I know what a lightworker is. Some say earthbound angels and others say just really good people that like to help others. But there are those in the world that find a means to make money off of people in vulnerable states. If she was all that all-knowing she wouldn't have had to interview me and get so many details about my life before doing a reading only to regurgitate what I had told her.

Well that's my story.

Badbody6
30-06-2015, 01:04 PM
Being a light worker, is being, you cant help it. It is who you are, body and soul. Even light workers go through and experience the dark side. It is a part of learning who they are, and why they are here.

Floydflow
21-07-2015, 05:02 PM
Hi, I personaly am a light worker and a follower of the teachings of Lee Carroll... And his Channeling's... And to me, a light worker is someone who always tries to help bring spiritual light to those who may not see what is already there...its a LIGHTHOUSE thing....and there are as many ways to the light as there are days of the year......... We fight the darkness...who BTW are loosing the cosmic war... absolute darkness cannot exist in the presence of a single tiny flame