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skeptical
27-07-2014, 02:13 AM
The following was inspired by a chat I had with Silent Whisper:

Chained to the Sky
Focus there
Seeing everything
the grandeaur and wisdom
never noticing the ground is
part of the sky
life abounding all
around energy
as one

What chains one to the sky?
Why look there and not to the ones
that bind us from
the rest?

The quest goes on


Let this lead you where it may!

silent whisper
27-07-2014, 02:24 AM
I am glad you posted your poem, I will be back later on to share some thoughts about our discussion and your sharing here...

:)

somnium
27-07-2014, 02:31 AM
chained to the sky
as I stand on the ground
I wonder why
what it is that makes the sound
I focus within and see inside
the knowledge I have grounded
presents the picture in my eye
i shift my gaze to another position
i am then astounded
and no longer in submission
the chains fall away
up up and away
to form the skies of the new day
from the 'ground' up
just as the darkness covers what is known
allowing something new to be shown

skeptical
27-07-2014, 02:46 AM
Lovely somnium!

The question comes to mind, where does the sky reside?

Ivy
27-07-2014, 09:56 AM
What a beautiful title. Beautiful because it challenges the common symbolism associated with sky. To the human eye (as such a grounded creature) the sky = freedom, sky = a wider view, sky = vastness, sky = apparent power.

But sky only represents one element of many. So to be chained to sky is to never feel deep beneath the ground, to never feel the life of an ocean, or to move as fire. How can one be chained to the sky?

somnium
27-07-2014, 09:01 PM
Lovely somnium!

The question comes to mind, where does the sky reside?

My answer - in my awareness.

skeptical
27-07-2014, 10:03 PM
What a beautiful title. Beautiful because it challenges the common symbolism associated with sky. To the human eye (as such a grounded creature) the sky = freedom, sky = a wider view, sky = vastness, sky = apparent power.

But sky only represents one element of many. So to be chained to sky is to never feel deep beneath the ground, to never feel the life of an ocean, or to move as fire. How can one be chained to the sky?

I'm glad you liked the title; I was inspired by that line to write the poem; it's Silent Whisper's and quite poetic.

It refers to the chains of our focus and the inner issues that bind us... Yes, you did catch the irony of it.

silent whisper
27-07-2014, 11:14 PM
The following was inspired by a chat I had with Silent Whisper:

Chained to the Sky
Focus there
Seeing everything
the grandeaur and wisdom
never noticing the ground is
part of the sky
life abounding all
around energy
as one

What chains one to the sky?

Perhaps in the mindset and experience as one, those that chain themselves any where within the spectrum of their potential of expanded state, hold a belief that they cannot be experiencing an abundance through the nature of the whole experience of the sky that you show here.

In some ways the nature of the sky, the perceived source where our expanded state may reside, without the essence of mother earth integrated into the whole as one, can bring about an isolation feeling, or disconnected feeling within self. This feeling is what often people are unwilling to step into to bridge the space between the two elements..Sometimes having known the expanded connected self at one time of ones experience, (be it as a child or a past life knowing)and then losing that feeling and connection, can in fact draw you to the space you miss and chain yourself in that way. Where as releasing that chain and allowing all the energy, through the earth and sky as one allows you to let go of what is missing and awaken to feel in wholeness of being connected once more.

And of course naturally you will be drawn into the space where others open that missing space up in you.



Why look there and not to the ones
that bind us from
the rest?

More often than not it is the feeling that one may not wish to walk through to integrate the abundance of being through the whole. The place one yearns is where one places their yearning.

In many ways I think desires and wants versus needs come into this picture. That yearning of what was and no longer is can awaken the real need in that desire and sometimes buckling up and chaining can have people hold that want so strongly in place. The opening to allow in what can be as a whole is bound by their own chain. Themselves.

Perhaps if you have known something and now it is unknown it can bring about a feeling of being lost in a world that then becomes a space of grief...To know and to feel connected is the key in bridging this loss. To open to feel how it all feels. But then for some this can be hard to do, so the binds keep their world in some kind of order and design that they are no willing to forgo.

To lose once can be hard enough, to risk losing it all again can be quite overwhelming to many I suspect.

The quest goes on


Let this lead you where it may!


The quest continues for sure..:)

RedEmbers
27-07-2014, 11:31 PM
Interesting ideas here :D

I wrote something which was sort of a flow on from the original poem...
mine I called 'earth bound'.

CHAINED TO THE SKY. .. made me think about how earth bound I often feel.

RedEmbers
27-07-2014, 11:33 PM
I'm glad you liked the title; I was inspired by that line to write the poem; it's Silent Whisper's and quite poetic.

It refers to the chains of our focus and the inner issues that bind us... Yes, you did catch the irony of it.


Hehe..............

silent whisper
27-07-2014, 11:35 PM
Interesting ideas here :D

I wrote something which was sort of a flow on from the original poem...
mine I called 'earth bound'.

CHAINED TO THE SKY. .. made me think about how earth bound I often feel.

hehe..

Why doesn't that surprise me..:D

Where are you wings to fly one with it all?

Now I am inspired to write a poem about The fallen ones..:wink:

RedEmbers
27-07-2014, 11:40 PM
hehe..

Why doesn't that surprise me..:D

Where are you wings to fly one with it all?

Now I am inspired to write a poem about The fallen ones..:wink:


Go you good thing! Write away on the flight of inspiration, or something :D

silent whisper
27-07-2014, 11:43 PM
The fallen ones
who perceive their home
is way out there
can feel so alone....

I yearn to fly
not be bound to this chain
on earth with no wings
to fly and remain

Connected to it all
to earth and to the sky
to all that awakens
to all that transpires

When my feet are firmly planted
on earth as one with source
the expanded nature
of the universe
is all in me of course...

To know the binds of earth
to know the binds we hold
to block our own expansion
as one with all in the fold
is a chain that breaks
the fallen ones
is a chain that holds our wings
in isolated captivity
and not fly the world and sing..:)

silent whisper
27-07-2014, 11:44 PM
Go you good thing! Write away on the flight of inspiration, or something :D

Your turn colourful one..:D

RedEmbers
27-07-2014, 11:49 PM
Wow! I am very impressed at the speed your words fly, holy guacamole!

Is there a Improv poetry smash competition anywhere? You would be strong competition that is for sure!

I may need some pondering time...

The mystery seed has been planted... I will see what mystertree (hehe terrible pun) will sprout

silent whisper
27-07-2014, 11:53 PM
Wow! I am very impressed at the speed your words fly, holy guacamole!

Yes intuitive flow can fly pretty fast when its unimpeded by chains..:D

Is there a Improv poetry smash competition anywhere? You would be strong competition that is for sure!

Haha now that could be fun for sure..

I may need some pondering time...

The mystery seed has been planted... I will see what mystertree (hehe terrible pun) will sprout


I await your *shecanfly* prose moment...:tongue:

RedEmbers
28-07-2014, 12:13 AM
Well... having read through this thread and also some of the 48 page plus thread entitled 'do you shrink yourself' (gosh there are some interesting things going on in this place at the moment)...
I came to the conclusion that some of us feel that we need to shrink ourselves and many feel that we cannot allow ourselves to expand into our potential, I would be a member of column b.

From the source
There is one
There is all...
I walk tall on the earth
Yet in the great scheme, I feel so small.

Where are my wings?
They are chained to the sky!
When I was packing my bag for earth
I must have left them behind
I jump as high as I can and
Spring off my feet
Great dreams inspire me to take great leaps... to reach them, my wings!

With a childlike simplicity
I play in the dirt...
Creating big dreams... as I shape the earth
Into mini mountains and streams...
And with all my human might
I can move those mini mountains...
Reshape them, destroy them and re-create them...
Yet still I can't fly
For I am so tiny and my wings are so far up and
Chained to the sky!

RedEmbers
28-07-2014, 12:24 AM
Now that I have bowled that one down... I can let the ball roll its unhindered way to freedom... lol
Release the chains! :D

silent whisper
28-07-2014, 12:34 AM
Well... having read through this thread and also some of the 48 page plus thread entitled 'do you shrink yourself' (gosh there are some interesting things going on in this place at the moment)...

haha don't you love the new wave of energy flowing through, its exciting to see..:)
I came to the conclusion that some of us feel that we need to shrink ourselves and many feel that we cannot allow ourselves to expand into our potential, I would be a member of column b.

Yes often I notice a lot of people when words like gurus, teachers, leaders, spiritual prophets or whatever else comes through the flow of words, those that still bind themselves to this as not being *allowed* it can in some ways doesn't allow themselves permission to be themselves as they are. Binding others up in their own ego issues around opening to be you no matter what you want to be.. Sometimes I feel people focus on the label of a person's idea of themselves because they cant give themselves permission to be ok with how that feels in relation to their own issues.....Conditioned ideas about being egotistical when in fact authentic self is open and flowing through the whole of being whatever you wish to be. Its the binds that will stop your own flow in judgement, attachment, limitations in this way sadly. So taking out the ideas around what role the person perceives themselves to be playing and just listening to what they are actually sharing can open up pockets in self to flow beyond that bind..

From the source
There is one
There is all...
I walk tall on the earth
Yet in the great scheme, I feel so small.

Where are my wings?
They are chained to the sky!
When I was packing my bag for earth
I must have left them behind
I jump as high as I can and
Spring off my feet
Great dreams inspire me to take great leaps... to reach them, my wings!

With a childlike simplicity
I play in the dirt...
Creating big dreams... as I shape the earth
Into mini mountains and streams...
And with all my human might
I can move those mini mountains...
Reshape them, destroy them and re-create them...
Yet still I can't fly
For I am so tiny and my wings are so far up and
Chained to the sky!f


Beautiful and honest reflection colourful lady..:)
You flowed beautifully and fast too..x

RedEmbers
28-07-2014, 01:02 AM
Where will the wind carry us?
I don’t know…
But I let go of resistance and let the wings of freedom
Surrender to the flow.

When I return to nest upon the earth
I will bring with me the wisdom of the air.

When I soar over oceans
I will listen and learn from the wisdom of the water.

When my home is torn from the firestorm
I will learn from the knowledge of the ashes.

When I grow too big for my wings and lose my form
I will return to the earth, to the ashes, to the water and to the air.

When I rein all the elements back in
The chains will fall and I will know chains no more…

I nurture these gifts
As they have been given
And when the moment of existence (as we know it) calls for release…
These gifts will flow freely…
The chains binding freedom will cease to exist.

skeptical
28-07-2014, 01:11 AM
The fallen ones
who perceive their home
is way out there
can feel so alone....

I yearn to fly
not be bound to this chain
on earth with no wings
to fly and remain

Connected to it all
to earth and to the sky
to all that awakens
to all that transpires

When my feet are firmly planted
on earth as one with source
the expanded nature
of the universe
is all in me of course...

To know the binds of earth
to know the binds we hold
to block our own expansion
as one with all in the fold
is a chain that breaks
the fallen ones
is a chain that holds our wings
in isolated captivity
and not fly the world and sing..:)

Where will the wind carry us?
I don’t know…
But I let go of resistance and let the wings of freedom
Surrender to the flow.

When I return to nest upon the earth
I will bring with me the wisdom of the air.

When I soar over oceans
I will listen and learn from the wisdom of the water.

When my home is torn from the firestorm
I will learn from the knowledge of the ashes.

When I grow too big for my wings and lose my form
I will return to the earth, to the ashes, to the water and to the air.

When I rein all the elements back in
The chains will fall and I will know chains no more…

I nurture these gifts
As they have been given
And when the moment of existence (as we know it) calls for release…
These gifts will flow freely…
The chains binding freedom will cease to exist.

I love them; both perfect additions to my original poem, an expansion of what it has to say! :hug3: :love5:

I wrote mine on the spot too, it just flowed from me.

somnium
28-07-2014, 01:38 AM
I fly I soar
into the sky and beyond it
why?
because i see above me
infinitely
the wings of a black eagle
that stretch to ever corner of creation
where chains aren't legal
no more narration
and freedom is the sky here
a hip hip and a hooray
a cheer
no more chains left to fear

skeptical
28-07-2014, 01:52 AM
I fly I soar
into the sky and beyond it
why?
because i see above me
infinitely
the wings of a black eagle
that stretch to ever corner of creation
where chains aren't legal
no more narration
and freedom is the sky here
a hip hip and a hooray
a cheer
no more chains left to fear

For infinity without
infinity within
when infinity is both
without and within
cease to be
it's just infinity

somnium
28-07-2014, 01:56 AM
For infinity without
infinity within
when infinity is both
without and within
cease to be
it's just infinity

the chains that divide
create every other way
aside
from what is within us
the chains that hide
every other way
are not to stay
and the fragments of infinities greatness
unite and collide
merging as one
and all becomes known
under the Sun

skeptical
28-07-2014, 02:03 AM
the chains that divide
create every other way
aside
from what is within us
the chains that hide
every other way
are not to stay
and the broken fragments of infinities greatness
unite and collide
merging as one
and all becomes known
under the Sun

An infinity made of chain bits,
infinitely confining?

True, eventually chains cannot contain the infinity that we are....

RedEmbers
28-07-2014, 02:13 AM
Ohhh...
I like where this is going :hug3:

Expanding into the air... without wings
To a place
Beyond flight...
You and I... once were here
Now, we can no longer be seen...
Does that mean...
That we no longer exist?

And the same can be said
For all the rest... for magic does exist...
Just because we don't see it... doesn't mean it isn't there
In a reality where we don't resist... just because we haven't witnessed it... or we don't quite resonate with it yet
doesn't mean that we can't ever create it...
Doesn't mean the paint from the realm of miracles will never set.

somnium
28-07-2014, 02:14 AM
An infinity made of chain bits,
infinitely confining?

True, eventually chains cannot contain the infinity that we are....

infinity perpetuates every single way
every division,
every possibility manifest
with exact precision
while one way is not the same as another
infinity creates division
so not to smother, one way in favor of another
so all ways can be
separately
while never really apart (omnipresently)
from the division, the source, the start
making one way into all ways
simultaneously connected
and ever resurrected
immortal and eternal
everlasting life
never-ending potential
infinity, my wife
companion
birthing my life
omnipotent
and gentle
the champion
the mantle
a servant and master
a giver and a taker (a collector)
always growing
birthing
and ever knowing

skeptical
28-07-2014, 03:05 AM
infinity perpetuates every single way
every division,
every possibility manifest
with exact precision
while one way is not the same as another
infinity creates division
so not to smother, one way in favor of another
so all ways can be
separately
while never really apart (omnipresently)
from the division, the source, the start
making one way into all ways
simultaneously connected
and ever resurrected
immortal and eternal
everlasting life
never-ending potential
infinity, my wife
companion
birthing my life
omnipotent
and gentle
the champion
the mantle
a servant and master
a giver and a taker (a collector)
always growing
birthing
and ever knowing

beneath infinity is yet a larger one
and beneath that a larger one still
and so on to infinity again
each layer is made up of the infinity beneath
what do you fill your box with?

somnium
28-07-2014, 03:13 AM
beneath infinity is yet a larger one
and beneath that a larger one still
and so on to infinity again
each layer is made up of the infinity beneath
what do you fill your box with?


Two schools of thought
regarding the totality of infinity
one says you can while the other can not
add to an omnipresent and unlimited vicinity?
because it is already all things and all ways have been brought
all moons and all days, every realization and thought
yet on the other hand being without any limit
unbounded, and is ever perpetuating, isn't it?
and so who is to claim what you can and can not
add to infinity, an eternity of new things to be sought?

skeptical
28-07-2014, 03:34 AM
Two schools of thought
regarding the totality of infinity
one says you can while the other can not
add to an omnipresent and unlimited vicinity?
because it is already all things and all ways have been brought
all moons and all days, every realization and thought
yet on the other hand being without any limit
unbounded, and is ever perpetuating, isn't it?
and so who is to claim what you can and can not
add to infinity, an eternity of new things to be sought?

Sorry, that last line should have read "what will you fill your box of infinity with?"

I had some experiences of the space beneath this universe, the space from which universes are made. I also had some experiences of visiting other people's created ones, and how different they all are. We truly do create our own realities, quite literally.

somnium
28-07-2014, 03:55 AM
Sorry, that last line should have read "what will you fill your box of infinity with?"

I had some experiences of the space beneath this universe, the space from which universes are made. I also had some experiences of visiting other people's created ones, and how different they all are. We truly do create our own realities, quite literally.

yes I know, and I see your question indeed, i didn't mean to ignore you, or from the question to flee. However your response did indicate to me, bringing to my mind two different schools of possibility in regards to the completion of time. Since you are one who perceives you can add to infinity, I posed a question of how you can add to a vicinity that is already complete? Its rather a paradox you see, like an infinite street, it can lead to anywhere, and so why not beat, the idea that some have in their mind, that there is nothing ever new to find? To see that infinity can grow, and as you yourself have proposed, there is more yet to know. Thus the all-knowing omnipresence continues to unfold, an expanding essence that is as yet to be told. Unraveling the mystery and revealing the history, as we lay down the chains to find our victory!

freedom is my box, and to where it will lead? To beyond the ticking of every form of clock, and every seed.

skeptical
28-07-2014, 04:24 AM
yes I know, and I see your question indeed, i didn't mean to ignore you, or from the question to flee. However your response did indicate to me, bringing to my mind two different schools of possibility in regards to the completion of time. Since you are one who perceives you can add to infinity, I posed a question of how you can add to a vicinity that is already complete? Its rather a paradox you see, like an infinite street, it can lead to anywhere, and so why not beat, the idea that some have in their mind, that there is nothing ever new to find? To see that infinity can grow, and as you yourself have proposed, there is more yet to know. Thus the all-knowing omnipresence continues to unfold, an expanding essence that is as yet to be told. Unraveling the mystery and revealing the history, as we lay down the chains to find our victory!

freedom is my box, and to where it will lead? To beyond the ticking of every form of clock, and every seed.When you're sure you have all the answers, that is when your space becomes finite, no longer expanding. I see you are not there, and I shall never be...as for time...well that is a whole other topic as time and I have a most interesting relationship, lol!

somnium
28-07-2014, 04:41 AM
When you're sure you have all the answers, that is when your space becomes finite, no longer expanding. I see you are not there, and I shall never be...as for time...well that is a whole other topic as time and I have a most interesting relationship, lol!

With pure awareness any answer may be found, simply as you focus your gaze around. There is nothing beyond your infinite reach, and questions, while being limitless, provides the answer to each.

skeptical
28-07-2014, 04:46 AM
With pure awareness any answer may be found, simply as you focus your gaze around. There is nothing beyond your infinite reach, and questions, while being limitless, provides the answer to each.
For every question, there are many answers....for every problem there are many solutions....such is the nature of infinity....infinite truths too.

silent whisper
28-07-2014, 04:58 AM
Ohhh...
I like where this is going :hug3:

Expanding into the air... without wings
To a place
Beyond flight...
You and I... once were here
Now, we can no longer be seen...
Does that mean...
That we no longer exist?

And the same can be said
For all the rest... for magic does exist...
Just because we don't see it... doesn't mean it isn't there
In a reality where we don't resist... just because we haven't witnessed it... or we don't quite resonate with it yet
doesn't mean that we can't ever create it...
Doesn't mean the paint from the realm of miracles will never set.

Paint your dreams in the way you feel
the vision is yours that others might deem unreal
It is the realm of everything, where nothing can break away
the flight of your dreams the creator you are today
Magic is you in your creative storm
creating and making all that may not be norm
to the universal links, to the individual not born
Awakened with wings, to paint the new morn
Let your eyes close the door and your heart become wonder
the earth and the heavens are your playground to ponder...

somnium
28-07-2014, 05:07 AM
For every question, there are many answers....for every problem there are many solutions....such is the nature of infinity....infinite truths too.

Many choices perhaps, but there are not always different answers to every question. There are many questions with only one true answer, and that is the essence of the truth of that moment, and what actually occurred within that moment. What day were you born? And who is your mother? Were you born on different days with different mothers? not to nitpick, but just digging for truth and understanding.

skeptical
28-07-2014, 05:28 AM
Many choices perhaps, but there are not always different answers to every question. There are many questions with only one true answer, and that is the essence of the truth of that moment, and what actually occurred within that moment. What day were you born? And who is your mother? Were you born on different days with different mothers? not to nitpick, but just digging for truth and understanding.
See that's the thing with infinite potential and every reality realized...such things can happen, depending on which reality your awareness happens to be experiencing. We only live one at a time and in that one, your birth day is always that day and your parents who created the body you inhabit are always the same ones. But in infinite universes, this will not always be so.

Even given the set one we live in, with set events like this, if you can change reality with a thought, even life and death, who is to say you can't change this as well? Me, I have no answers to any of this, just going on what you've said in another thread about how you experience your reality. I have no doubt it is real.

To circle back to topic....this thread is not about dreaming and reaching, but more about freeing the emotions that chain one from doing so fully. SW's poem, speaks well to that in the previous post.

somnium
28-07-2014, 05:38 AM
See that's the thing with infinite potential and every reality realized...such things can happen, depending on which reality your awareness happens to be experiencing. We only live one at a time and in that one, your birth day is always that day and your parents who created the body you inhabit are always the same ones. But in infinite universes, this will not always be so.


Yes, that is why i said the truth of that moment occurring as it occurred in that moment is only the one truth.

But I hear you, and so will respectfully depart.