"They are fat because they don't love themselves"

[Ciqala]

It's just a quote from Louise L Hay, from her book You Can Heal Your Life, got me thinking, to the point it twisted my mind up.
Well, I believe everything else she says, but having a hard time grasping this one. I've seen overweight people who really do love themselves, the happiest, most confident people in the world, i would think if you loved yourself your body and you wouldn't care what weight you are.
I've heard people talking about fat, as being love.
What about Buddha?
I've also seen thin people, and they turn out to be some of the meanest most hateful people out there, maybe it's because they spend so much time trying to be that way...

In the old days, thin was viewed as being bad and unhealthy.

"When we begin to love and approve of ourselves, it's amazing how weight just disappears from our bodies."

Now I'm going to jump into the "Secret" the book. It say's you can envision yourself to your ideal weight, if you act, and believe in it. It says to take a look at those special people who say "I can eat as much as i want and never get fat!" They don't because they believe it. She even goes into further detail, and says that she doesn't even believe that FOOD is what makes us fat, it is our relationship and beliefs of it that do. So if we managed to eat, in a mindful way, and loved our food, believed it would make us thin and healthy, it would.

I was doing this for awhile, and it was working.
But i'm having a hard time trying to shape this into concept for my own personal use. I'm overcoming an eating disorder. Her concepts are very good for me.
I'm not fat, my normal weight was actually nice and stable at the low end of what i should be, not too low to be considered dangerous or "anorexic looking". But my eating disorder plagues me with "fat thoughts". I've been using positive affirmations to get me through my recovery and it's working well.
BUT, i've also gained 20 pounds in a few weeks, possibly due to laxative abuse withdrawal, water retention, and constipation, also, it is known temporary weight gain happens while recovering from an eating disorder, but this is tripping up my positive thought work greatly!!! When i first started eating properly, and using the law of attraction, i lost a few pounds every day, probably not good. But suddenly, BAM 20 pounds up. Could be due to medical reasons, but i thought the law of attraction is supposed to even defeat that?
Maybe because i expect it will happen? I am trying, but it's hard to wrap my mind around it all. What should i do?

[NightSpirit]

Quite a challenge you've set yourself...I had the opposite...trying to put weight on. It's just as difficult.
I guess the idea of law-of-attraction is to not think about it but to 'know' it...no doubts. Good luck to you :)

[Spiritlite]

Maybe thin people who are mean are mean because they don't eat thus they don't feel good and are mean.
Maybe those people who are overweight but who really it's just their body type and love themselves do so because they have a good life and maybe they eat well too so they feel better.
I know in my case I'm overweight and it IS because I don't love myself I got myself to over 200 pounds at five foot five, even though I look like I'm 180. However I ate **** and didn't excercise for years that got me this way. Now I'm loving myself again by loosing weight (I've lost 6 pounds in two weeks) excercise etc and it's helping me love myself again.
Spiritlite.

[Lovely]

I dont think it's that black and white. I've meant horrible
people who are skinny and I've also meant horrible people
who are fat.

[Spiritlite]

Yeah it goes either way.
Spiritlite.

[Summerland]

I am about 10-15 pounds overweight and it has nothing to do with loving myself. Some of it has to do with stress and jobs. I work the night shift under stressful situations and have a lot of stress at home. People who work night shifts in hospitals tend to be at least 10 pounds overweight and the night shift interferes with metabolism and circadian cycles.

[Spiritlite]

Summer yep you're right. I work three night shifts a week and although that's not full time it does still screw up with everything. I have one CNA who has nightshifted for almost five years and even though she's not too badly overweight she cannot loose weight and I know it's from working nights.
Spiritlite.
Summer there are herbal therapys that help cut down on cortisol the stress hormone that makes us overweight and screws us up.

[Ciqala]

Maybe thin people who are mean are mean because they don't eat thus they don't feel good and are mean.
Maybe those people who are overweight but who really it's just their body type and love themselves do so because they have a good life and maybe they eat well too so they feel better.
I know in my case I'm overweight and it IS because I don't love myself I got myself to over 200 pounds at five foot five, even though I look like I'm 180. However I ate **** and didn't excercise for years that got me this way. Now I'm loving myself again by loosing weight (I've lost 6 pounds in two weeks) excercise etc and it's helping me love myself again.
Spiritlite.

Yes those seem like definite possibilities too.
And congrats on the six pounds! Yeah i think exercise and so many other things contribute to it all, other than just positive thoughts. Exercise in itself releases endorphins that make us happy, and it does make us love ourselves. I think i get a little addicted to it myself, but i've been focusing on body mind type activities, like martial arts, they can be extreme, but they also have spiritual techniques to them.

[Ciqala]

Quite a challenge you've set yourself...I had the opposite...trying to put weight on. It's just as difficult.
I guess the idea of law-of-attraction is to not think about it but to 'know' it...no doubts. Good luck to you :)

Oh yeah always challenges :) But if i didn't go through with it, i'd only be killing myself because that's the only pleasures my eating disorders bring me. Your right, no doubts is a crucial part of the law of attraction.

[pebble]

Sounds like you have been caught in a vicious cycle of guilt. It is not a matter of not loving yourself, you have grown accustomed to wanting to be the size the world thinks you should be.

I am chunky and the reason is not because I have some issue with myself, it is because that food taste so darn good. This lifetime was meant to be chunky..??

[Roselove]

uncons metapyshical cause of weight gain is usually protection, there are other factors such as stress, health problems, etc..

[Ciqala]

Sounds like you have been caught in a vicious cycle of guilt. It is not a matter of not loving yourself, you have grown accustomed to wanting to be the size the world thinks you should be.

I am chunky and the reason is not because I have some issue with myself, it is because that food taste so darn good. This lifetime was meant to be chunky..??

yeah, it's habit... bad cycle to be in. My problem was always self hatred though. I never cared about what anyone else thought of me, it was that i was never good enough to me. When i thrived in anorexia, i would compete with myself, i would insult myself, no one else ever said anything bad about me or contributed to it. For 11 years i lived with that habit, and it was hard to break, but if i never did accomplish anything, i wouldn't be able to be eating right now, so i have come far. i can stand to live with myself as i am now. Logically i know it is only fears that make me think i'm gaining weight. I still deal with thought patterns getting in the way at times.

I like your philosophy there, life is meant to be enjoyed, we are supposed to enjoy food. I don't think it matters to be a little chunky as i said before, it can mean you are enjoying life.

I know for me, especially after recovering from anorexia, that being thin is not at all great.

Obsession of food, starving and perfection never got me anywhere, just turned into more hatred, and darkness and led me to lots of physical ailments. I much enjoy adopting a new healthy relationship to food, where i love it, and it is pleasurable.

I like to give thanks and gratitude to my food, before i eat. I am very instinctual from ancient times, thus eating the food like i have hunted for it, helps me greatly. It makes me ponder at society, at how easy and unhealthy it is to have food easily obtained, so people forget to be thankful for it.

[chartreuse]

I am about 10-15 pounds overweight and it has nothing to do with loving myself. Some of it has to do with stress and jobs. I work the night shift under stressful situations and have a lot of stress at home. People who work night shifts in hospitals tend to be at least 10 pounds overweight and the night shift interferes with metabolism and circadian cycles.

I don't think 10-15 lbs overweight is the type of overweight Louise Hay was talking about.

I agree with whoever said it's not black and white, but as someone who used to be morbidly obese and is now within 20 lbs of her ideal weight, I can tell you that I was NOT loving myself when I was stuffing my face with unhealthy food. I did not tend to binge, but I just ate way too much of the wrong things most of the time.

I don't care what anyone claims, you DO NOT feel good after eating a heavy meal of processed, chemical-filled refined carbs and fatty meats. And when you are doing something to yourself that makes you feel bad, you are not loving yourself.

Part of loving yourself is making yourself a priority, and while I do know very well the incompatibility of modern life with healthy eating habits and it can be very hard to eat right, it's never impossible. You just have to be creative. Boil a dozen organic eggs on Sunday night and take those for snacks throughout the week. They are actually a fantastic, filling food that won't cause a sugar crash like so much of the **** in vending machines. Make up a pot of healthy soup and buy a pack of small, whole-grain rolls and some apples and you've got lunch for the week. And so on.

Love yourself enough to take the time to give yourself what you need.

[Redrose]

I have been battling with overweight problem, all my life, and I am a sensible eater, and active person. But I have had pent up emotional issues that have troubled me all my life. So I guess loving urself is not such an easy task, even though consciously I do love myself. I never abuse my body with incorrect eating or laxatives or fad diets. But i know under the surface, I still have to learn to love myself, as if i am the most cherished person in my life... rose

[iolite]

It's just a quote from Louise L Hay, from her book You Can Heal Your Life, got me thinking, to the point it twisted my mind up.
Well, I believe everything else she says, but having a hard time grasping this one. I've seen overweight people who really do love themselves, the happiest, most confident people in the world, i would think if you loved yourself your body and you wouldn't care what weight you are.
I've heard people talking about fat, as being love.
What about Buddha?
I've also seen thin people, and they turn out to be some of the meanest most hateful people out there, maybe it's because they spend so much time trying to be that way...

In the old days, thin was viewed as being bad and unhealthy.

"When we begin to love and approve of ourselves, it's amazing how weight just disappears from our bodies."

Now I'm going to jump into the "Secret" the book. It say's you can envision yourself to your ideal weight, if you act, and believe in it. It says to take a look at those special people who say "I can eat as much as i want and never get fat!" They don't because they believe it. She even goes into further detail, and says that she doesn't even believe that FOOD is what makes us fat, it is our relationship and beliefs of it that do. So if we managed to eat, in a mindful way, and loved our food, believed it would make us thin and healthy, it would.

I was doing this for awhile, and it was working. But i'm having a hard time trying to shape this into concept for my own personal use. I'm overcoming an eating disorder. Her concepts are very good for me.

I'm not fat, my normal weight was actually nice and stable at the low end of what i should be, not too low to be considered dangerous or "anorexic looking". But my eating disorder plagues me with "fat thoughts". I've been using positive affirmations to get me through my recovery and it's working well.

BUT, i've also gained 20 pounds in a few weeks, possibly due to laxative abuse withdrawal, water retention, and constipation, also, it is known temporary weight gain happens while recovering from an eating disorder, but this is tripping up my positive thought work greatly!!! When i first started eating properly, and using the law of attraction, i lost a few pounds every day, probably not good. But suddenly, BAM 20 pounds up. Could be due to medical reasons, but i thought the law of attraction is supposed to even defeat that?
Maybe because i expect it will happen? I am trying, but it's hard to wrap my mind around it all. What should i do?


I don't think it is really that simple...Yes there are people who eat to comfort and self-medicate, just as there are people who deny themselves food for the very same reason.

Underlying medical issues like thyroid dysfunction is rampant due to the over abundance of goitrogens in our environment in the form of bromides and fluorides as well as iodine and vitamin D deficiencies that contribute to the thyroid dysfunction. Add to that the estrogenic toxins in the form of BPA's, perchlorics, pesticide and herbicide residue (which are also goitrogenic, btw) that cause a rise in cortisol in our bodies and resultant weight gain.

Adrenal stress is another factor that is brought on by environmental, emotional or physical stress leads to a slowing down of the metabolism, affects the thyroid and results in weight gain.

Then there is the avoidance of healthy fats like butter, coconut oil in preference of less healthier vegetable fats like margarine, and polyunsaturated oils. The healthy fats feed our bodies, help manufacture necessary hormones, sate our tummies and brains helping to reduce over eating.

Finally, the high frutose corn syrup that is in practically everything these days, play havoc with insulin and contribute to type 2 diabetes and obesity.

Even those with eating disorders can and are affected with the above.

[Internal Queries]

every summer i go into an involuntary fasting mode. i can't eat much because it makes me nauseous. i end up living on yogurt and Instant Breakfast and i become quite skeletal by summer's end. i think my boney way too skinny appearence is just as, if not more, unattractive than being fat. i look like a last stages cancer victim. my inability to eat a full meal during the summer has nothing to do with whether or not i love myself. it's the heat and humidity that kills my appetite.

there are all kinds of reasons why someOne might be overweight (by Western beauty standards) so i think making such a blanket statement as "fat people don't love themselves" is just rediculous.

oh and btw ... beauty concepts change from era to era, culture to culture. at one time women with rolls of plumpness and dimpled flesh were considered highly attractive. look at Peter Paul Ruben's nudes.

[Native spirit]

:hug: At the end of the day we are all one, some are big some are small. i think if you can accept that you are half way there.

im not skinny im not fat. i am who i am.people should be accepted by all for what they are. i know this is not the case for all, but wouldnt the world be a better place if we were excepted just as we are?

Namaste

[miss.hawaiki]

Wow. So I'm gonna tell you a little story about my body lol. Here goes.

Ever since I was born, my weight as been up and down (mother fed me poorly lol too much should I say at times as she is over weight also which I figure is why we always had more than we needed in terms of food) anyway, when I got to 13 I became anorexic and bulimic and went right down to about 80 something lbs and then when I hit 17 within a month I stacked on about 40 lbs and now at the age of 21 and 5 ft 1 I am about 210lbs! I believe myself that the anorexia and bulimic was caused by a need for control. A need for control over my life (due to family and personal things that were happening that tipped me into my deep end) and the reason for my weight gain now, I believe is because I do not love myself or even care enough to be motivated to change anything. Simple as that and this is something that I am working on as we all have lessons to work through. In regards to believing that you are "skinny" honestly, I believe in the Law of Attraction BUT there is also a portion of discovering WHY you are a certain way in this case a certain body weight and you must work past that first.

[miss.hawaiki]

I don't think it is really that simple...Yes there are people who eat to comfort and self-medicate, just as there are people who deny themselves food for the very same reason.

Underlying medical issues like thyroid dysfunction is rampant due to the over abundance of goitrogens in our environment in the form of bromides and fluorides as well as iodine and vitamin D deficiencies that contribute to the thyroid dysfunction. Add to that the estrogenic toxins in the form of BPA's, perchlorics, pesticide and herbicide residue (which are also goitrogenic, btw) that cause a rise in cortisol in our bodies and resultant weight gain.

Adrenal stress is another factor that is brought on by environmental, emotional or physical stress leads to a slowing down of the metabolism, affects the thyroid and results in weight gain.

Then there is the avoidance of healthy fats like butter, coconut oil in preference of less healthier vegetable fats like margarine, and polyunsaturated oils. The healthy fats feed our bodies, help manufacture necessary hormones, sate our tummies and brains helping to reduce over eating.

Finally, the high frutose corn syrup that is in practically everything these days, play havoc with insulin and contribute to type 2 diabetes and obesity.

Even those with eating disorders can and are affected with the above.

Oh yes! I highly agree with what you are saying also. The amount of poisons in our food which from what I've come to "know" are purposely put there in order to slowly break down our physical body computers reek HAVOC with our bodies in every way shape and form, whether it be dis ease, mental or in this case, over or under weightiness due to the body not performing properly so that is also another factor besides what I've said above.

[miss.hawaiki]

yeah, it's habit... bad cycle to be in. My problem was always self hatred though. I never cared about what anyone else thought of me, it was that i was never good enough to me. When i thrived in anorexia, i would compete with myself, i would insult myself, no one else ever said anything bad about me or contributed to it. For 11 years i lived with that habit, and it was hard to break, but if i never did accomplish anything, i wouldn't be able to be eating right now, so i have come far. i can stand to live with myself as i am now. Logically i know it is only fears that make me think i'm gaining weight. I still deal with thought patterns getting in the way at times.

I like your philosophy there, life is meant to be enjoyed, we are supposed to enjoy food. I don't think it matters to be a little chunky as i said before, it can mean you are enjoying life.

I know for me, especially after recovering from anorexia, that being thin is not at all great.

Obsession of food, starving and perfection never got me anywhere, just turned into more hatred, and darkness and led me to lots of physical ailments. I much enjoy adopting a new healthy relationship to food, where i love it, and it is pleasurable.

I like to give thanks and gratitude to my food, before i eat. I am very instinctual from ancient times, thus eating the food like i have hunted for it, helps me greatly. It makes me ponder at society, at how easy and unhealthy it is to have food easily obtained, so people forget to be thankful for it.

Wow. I send much love to you. As I wrote below, I went to about 80 lbs from the age of 13 to 17. Now 21 I am about 210lbs. I know what anorexia is like and still battle with those thoughts, still battle with bulimia and it definitely is about perfection. A lot of people thought I was trying to be skinny and get attention and to look good but it has nothing to do with it. It has to do with having control over something, knowing that you are good at controlling your food which makes you feel that you are good in some way and getting something right because you feel like you aren't good enough. I send you all my love right now :) You will make it, we all will

[ellespirit]

Hi all of the above a wonderful thought provoking posts.

I put on 20 kilos after I had children and never lost it. All emotional baggage hugging my 5ft frame. We all have our issues, but if you are really interested in losing weight loss spiritually, you can't go any further than Marianne Williamson's Spiritual Guide to Weight Loss.

Since I read that book in January this year, I have lost 10kg, I have discovered the law of attraction, I have met a new man who treats me like an absolute princess and goddess thus breaking my cycle of abusive and negative co-dependent relationships. For the first time in 10 years I am brimming with happiness and I can say life is so good I have learned to love myself. I still want to lose another 15kg, but I feel like a look pretty damn good in the meantime.

Love and light
Elle

[astroboy]

Law of attraction is being used by so many advertising companies that one can get confused about what to attract in their lives.
I have recently created this blog using the law of attraction too.
See to understand esp that it involves three things - Slimming, Firming and Weight Loss. Enjoy.
http://ayurvedicdoctor.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/ayurvedic-weight-loss-capsules/

[Air Spirit]

:hug: [FONT=Book Antiqua]wouldnt the world be a better place if we were excepted just as we are?

Namaste

Yes, it would be

[002 Cents]

I am of the mindset that each body has it's own "Happy Healthy Weight". That our weight should be dictated by some social standard seems unhealthy.

That our bodies are properly nourished and tended to, along with our minds and souls, seems of greater importance than what others will think of you based on your dress size. Only when a persons weight is of health concern (be it too large or too small) do I think it is necessary to re-evaluate their lifestyle. Otherwise to each their own.

[Kiran]

Hi all. Wonderful thought-provoking posts indeed!

As for me, I am morbidly obese (just a little over 100kg) and it IS true that I don't love myself enough. I know that I feel better when I eat right and exercise, but there is all this rich food I love and - hups- it has disappeared in my mouth. And when I come home from work I am tired and rather go to watch TV than out for a walk. More so in bad weather. So, I'm constantly gaining more and more weight.

There are times when I want to break this vicious circle and start to love myself, but my strength of will breaks after a few days. :icon_frown:

I eat food to comfort me, to give me a feeling that I'm loved and secure. I know that because of Doreen Virtue's book "Constant Craving", which analyzes your eating patterns. I am an addict to bread rolls with cream cheese, and of course chocolate.

For me it is a vicious circle:
I don't have anybody to love me and I feel bad, unloved and insecure and lonely, thus I eat to comfort myself. But the only thing the food does is making me grow fatter and fatter and more unattractive still, making it even less probable for me to find a partner to love me... :icon_frown:

Just hoping to break this circle and become a happy, healthy girl with love for herself...

[Spiritlite]

Great thread. Thanks for this

[Scibat]

It's just a quote from Louise L Hay, from her book You Can Heal Your Life, got me thinking, to the point it twisted my mind up.

Someone once tried to get me to read her books. I was skeptical because I thought Louise Hay was utterly clueless, and after reading this, it is now confirmed.

[santacruz18]

I know in my case I'm overweight and it IS because I don't love myself I got myself to over 200 pounds at five foot five, even though I look like I'm 180. However I ate **** and didn't excercise for years that got me this way. Now I'm loving myself again by loosing weight (I've lost 6 pounds in two weeks) excercise etc and it's helping me love myself again.
Spiritlite.

Nice spiritlite. What was the turning point for you to change your lifestyle?

[Marie]

Since I was 3 years old I have been abused by my parents and siblings,and a whole community(small) for being fat,and I wasnt,not the tinest. It continued through school years, and it messed my head properly up when it came to how I thought myself to look. Im through it, but still to this day thoughts can pop up. I know where it comes from though and can easily deal with it. This is all a game,to gain light-energy from somebody,no matter reason. It doesnt really matter what the reason is.

Ive had yo-yo weight all my life. But Ive been normal to chubby lightly overweight all time. It didnt matter, what was my weight. People still commented just as ugly until I finally left the town. A small town where everybody knows everybody and if one is seen in a bad light,its pretty much over with that person. Thats how it was.
I remember I was shocked, when I tried one of my very skinny friends jeans once when I was a teenager, and it fitted me perfectly,and how the doctor said I was normal weight. See what others bullying and societal standards can do to you.
I have some to fall off now,lightly overweight this time,and I can see how my new vegetarian diet makes it just fall off. its started. And I feel great.

I dont buy it for anything that you are overweight because you dont love yourself. I know it can be a reason just as well but i dont beleive in the standard comment that thats why. its not that simple. Media and societal pressure plays a big part as well. why is it ok to pic on womens bodies so much and not men. why do it at all. why just not eat healthy and be happy.
its too much pressure to fit a certain norm, when you have bodies that are different sizes. clothes are too often made too small even in right sizes. we are taught that we are not ok if we dont fit in,too much or too less of this or that. And the most buy it raw and view others that dont fit in as abnormal. Instead of appreciate what there is.
its all over. its just not one thing. food are stimulated that we eat all time with all adds, we are stimulated in every way to eat. no wonder some get problems. the things that are in food, -everything is destroyed.
I recommend highly a vegetarian lifestyle for easy weightloss.

[mattie]

Someone once tried to get me to read her books. I was skeptical because I thought Louise Hay was utterly clueless, and after reading this, it is now confirmed.

I've not read Hay's books, but Hay's publishing company has some excellent authors. She has performed a valuable service by publishing many metaphysical authors that probably wouldn't have gotten published by the main publishing houses.

She may be off base on some things, but Spot On about others.

[mattie]

I don’t buy into we gain weight because we expect too. I have issues w/ what Hays said as well even though I respect her founding a publishing house for metaphysical subjects.

If constipation is an issue, it is likely that intestinal probiotics are depleted. When probiotics are adequate, laxatives aren’t needed. Garden of Life’s Primal Defense Ultra or a similar product w/ multiple types of probiotics can remedy this very quickly. Take probiotics an hour away from food (2 hours after eating a large meal) & don’t take w/ alcohol or antibiotics (natural or prescription).
This isn’t medical advice.

If laxatives are used for weight loss, stop using these. Even if you are having weight gain from stopping, let your body normalize. Eating disorders & overuse of laxatives can be very dangerous for MANY reasons.

Focus on being healthy more than weight. Incorporate gentle exercise like vigorous walks into your routine if you don’t regularly exercise. Resist the urge to compare your self to supermodels’ photographs. Often these are manipulated to make already practically emaciated models look even more rail thin than they are.

[Scout Phoenix]

I tend to love myself the way that I am. I am averagely fat I could say. However, all my sister's are very skinny. I like the way that I look and I embrace my little 20 lb over weight. I don't like to look skinny and I love the curve's that I have. I am proud to say I love the fat I have.

[Miss Hepburn]

Cultures/societies and their ideas can be silly from one to another.
My opinion....have some meat on your bones, for pete's sake, and
be content and enjoy yourself,
If it effects your health, that's another matter.

[Flatworld Crusades]

All my life I have been slim or athletic. Last year I had a psychotic episode that lasted quite some time. During this time I put on 20kgs and because of the delusion I had no idea. When I was discharged I looked at myself in the mirror with sane eyes for the first time in a year. I was absolutely shocked and mortified that I had, literally overnight to me, become fat. I started to diet that moment and now 12 months along I have lost the 20kgs

[edithaint]

Fat people are fat because they are.

Skinny people are skinny because they are.

We are as we are.

There is no right or wrong in this universe, only cost, benefit, and change.


My mother-in-law is fat because of hormonal imbalances, poor dietary choices, and a sedentary lifestyle. Hopefully her new diet does her well, bless her heart. As to her depth of self-love, she often cautions my husband and I that "we can't love others unless we love ourselves", so I can only assume she practices what she preaches. My mother is fat because she thinks she is, although most people disagree; she's probably a healthy weight, just too neurotic to see herself clearly in the mirror. Same for most others in my family.

Me? I'm fat because I've been severely underweight for a good few years, and I've worked hard (sat on my rump and ate cake) to gain this weight. My "fat" is a healthy amount of adipose tissue, necessary for the immune system and nervous system, without unduly straining my heart. Both too little and too much fat can strain the heart. Some people, such as my mom, might see my enlarged teats and rump as too much. But nevermind her, she knows not what she does. Thus I'm fat because I DO love myself.

[Dargor]

Well, I'm rather thin and I don't particulary like myself. Problem with some new age folk is the same as religious people, instead of bringing the devil into it they say everything is caused by karma and law of attraction or thoughts.

[Jainarayan]

I'm a fat guy. I'm 5'6" and 235 lbs, I wear size 44 pants, and I like myself just as I am. I have to clarify and say I don't have one of those big round protruding or blubbery bellies that overflows my belt. I just have a very thick midsection, but I'm fat nevertheless. The scale number itself has to do with having been a powerlifter for a lot of years. I can't attribute the belly to the gym. :biggrin: I've dieted and done cardio (I was a runner and a mountain biker) over the years, with some success... depending on what one defines "success" to be. My health seems to be good, except for the not entirely successful lumbar fusion I had 3 1/2 years ago. So yeah, I'm fat and I like myself.