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Ciqala
28-11-2010, 12:53 AM
Hello all, another post from me, i've become more aware of it since last time, but i'm still lacking some answers.

I need guidance throughout this unpleasant process, and understanding, and harnessing it properly.

I like the Hindu way and belief of Kundalini, my Kundalini is awakened, but I cannot find how to harness the process anywhere.

I do not agree with closing chakras, that is not what I want to achieve. I do not believe it is blocked, I believe this is what happens when it opens. I just want to know how to harness its power.

The common symptoms I researched (which is the only similarity shared in alternate view points of the process) that happen when your crown chakra opens, are heat flashes, differences in temperature, awakening of kundalini (energies) crawling over your body, which can feel like invisible bugs, light or extreme vibrations, nausea, feeling ill, exhaustion, disorientation, dizziness, body pains, migraines, sudden or increased awareness of all energies around, which can become dangerous, so operating machinery or vehicles is a bad thing. The biggest symptom is the obvious crown chakra sensations. There can be more symptoms that are just as unpleasant. These symptoms enable you to do anything. Different resources tell me this can last up to several months.
For me, I also find my desire to interact with people is gone, my desire to do earthly things is gone, constantly in a state of relaxation and spiritual awareness. But the nausea, and even when I touch any objects with even good energies is way overpowering.

I do work on balancing my chakras. I don’t need to know about that. I want to know if there is anything i have to do, other than wait it out. The only answers I have found is, basically resting for as long as it takes, avoiding smoking and being kind to the body. But there has got to be more to it. My intuition tells me I have to do something else, I just don’t know what.
I do ground myself, but my crown chakra doesn’t want me to be grounded completely. I just know that for some reason. I don’t think that’s the problem.

When it shoots to the back of my skull, am I supposed to let it carry on down to the rest of my chakras? Are there any techniques on how to train your body from stopping it? Because so far, as soon as I harness its full potential, my body contracts by an impulse to stop it from doing what it wants to do.
The intense energy has reached my throat and heart chakra, once before, but it seems to stop there. I can feel my root chakra, but not the ones in-between. Kundalini is supposed to rise upwards, as far as I know, not downwards. But my crown chakra keeps feeling like it wants to go down my spine.

Why can’t I meditate properly with my crown chakra on? It keeps interfering. I read somewhere that meditation might not be good during this process, but why wouldn’t it be? It just, gets in the way, and even brings on full nausea and disorientation so I can’t visualize things very well.
My spirits told me to meditate and receive a vision, but meditating and balancing seems to make it worse.

Is there any known ways to speed up the process? Or am I going to be down for a few months or as long as it takes?

And what is the difference between it being on 24/7 tingly, fully aware its there, can’t even wear a tuke in the cold, but at times it becomes really extreme and starts shooting downwards? I just tried right now and can’t seem to bring the intense version of it on at will right now. All the time it is crawling around though, and there is pressure. I don’t think the intense version of it is a bad thing. I used to terrify me, but I’ve gotten to know it better. My body used to mistake it as pain. But the sharp vibrations feel very good, even when I massage them. My body, mainly my neck stops it though. I think it is supposed to do something, I just don’t know what.

I am also afraid to ground myself because it might disrupt it’s process. Last night I went to a loud music blaring event, and wasn’t able to be social because of it, but I sort of had a break from everything and felt more grounded, and today the symptoms are more intense. It made me feel better to be around people for once, and just dance and do earthly things, but I was still afraid I would lose my progress. Being around over stimulating things is also not good.
Should I even be afraid that it might stop? I don’t want to do anything that will close it. It didn’t seem to close from last night. And today I feel so “sick” that I can’t get anything done. This is hindering me. And I just told my friend today, if this is truly spiritual enlightenment than it’s starting to annoy me. I am still afraid to find balances, not that I can right now due to the symptoms, but it would be good, if I could eventually get into physical activity again, and be able to have my spiritual awareness. Right now, my body sends me delightful sensations that tell me that relaxing is good. But how can I relax 24/7? I get more agitated when i can't get things done.

Edit: Oh, and if you happened to read my last post about my third eye dilemma, i did get medical tests done during my anxiety stage of it all, and my body is perfectly healthy, nothing is physically wrong with me at all :) Happy about that! I'm also grateful for everyone who responded to my third eye dilemma! Helped me out a lot! Confusing times lately, confusing times!!

in progress
28-11-2010, 06:14 AM
http://kundalini-teacher.com/awakening/sawaken.php
http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/threads/th_tpdwn.html
http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=DownisUp

Some info about top down energy that may or may not be helpful to you.

I don't know how to speed up the process for you. I would have told you to meditate! But it seems problematic for you. I guess do the best you can. Don't worry about grounding slowing your process. If anything I think it will speed things up and help you feel better.

I had the top down energy happen first. My crown opened up, I felt a large chakra above my head spin and then energy move down through my body (not just spine) in about a five day period of time. This is when I felt the flu-like symptoms you read about. Once it reached my feet I started feeling heat there as energy was being drawn in from the earth. Hot feet/big toes is a common pre-kundalini symptom. I think it was about three months before bottom up kundalini energy occurred. But of course it's different for each.

I know you say the energy has reached your heart chakra but it sure sounds as if there is a block in the throat chakra.

Do you ever picture white light coming in through the crown, filling your body, then flowing out your feet and into the earth? I think this is the visualization that really got things moving for me. I've also pictured crystal clear water flowing through gently dissolving blocks, carrying away the dissolved bits. Whenever I do these visualizations I always intend it be gentle and easy. And it has been really though I get spooked once in awhile.

Ciqala
28-11-2010, 07:37 AM
Thanks for the links. I was doing amazing with the meditation earlier during all of this, i'm going to try again tomorrow, perhaps my mind was just acting up.
And thanks for the reassurance about grounding.

Oh that is neat that it is happening downwards the same way it did for you, i'm pretty sure i've passed the 5 day time though, and i've had the gross flu like symptoms for a week or so. I felt heat all over my body, kind of weirded me out because i am always cold. So you are saying after it went downwards, it went upwards? That's interesting indeed, wonder if that will happen for me.

OH, yes you just gave me a sudden realization, i think you are right. I don't feel the other ones simply because it IS the throat chakra stopping it.
I remember i voiced my fears, and as soon as i did that, i meditated, and it felt like a lighting bolt from my head to the point where the throat chakra is supposed to be. I thought i unblocked it, but it stopped there. I probably didn't fully unblock it. It could be why my neck is tensing up and stopping it from moving down. I'm going to look into that, hopefully that solves my problem with that and lets things flow.

Yes i've done that visualization on my own, without ever hearing about it. But then i sort of stopped doing it downwards because i thought it was supposed to go upwards, so i went at it backwards. I'll get back into doing it downwards again.

The water is an interesting one, water is very powerful cleansing, i will try that one, thanks for the tip. You get spooked once in awhile?

Serenity Bear
28-11-2010, 09:29 AM
I wouldnt try and speed up the process, you will just get sick. The body needs time to adjust to the energy and by pushing the process you will just burn your self out and your body.

Not closing your chakras can cause loads of severe problems (Iv had 28 years experience with chakras), so even if you dont believe in it, its worth knowing how to do it. You may find the more you develope the more desperate you will be to do it.

Anyone can open and close chakras, its not hard to do, and you dont need any kundalini expertise or otherwise to do it., however, you do need to know how to control what happens when you do.

in progress
28-11-2010, 10:16 AM
Yes i've done that visualization on my own, without ever hearing about it.

You get spooked once in awhile?
I've done some visualizations too w/o prompting only to read about them later! Sending white light into the earth was one of them.

I'm a chicken sometimes, what can I say?!! Despite that I want to reassure you I've never experienced anything worse than headaches and a little nausea when my lower chakras opened. It's feeling things happening in my body and not knowing what is going to happen next that bothers me. And sometimes the energy can feel quite strong.

I have dreams sometimes where someone is working on my energy system and in the dreams I remind myself to relax and allow. There was even a dream where I and the other person joked about my worrying!

Ciqala
28-11-2010, 06:07 PM
I wouldnt try and speed up the process, you will just get sick. The body needs time to adjust to the energy and by pushing the process you will just burn your self out and your body.

Not closing your chakras can cause loads of severe problems (Iv had 28 years experience with chakras), so even if you dont believe in it, its worth knowing how to do it. You may find the more you develope the more desperate you will be to do it.

Anyone can open and close chakras, its not hard to do, and you dont need any kundalini expertise or otherwise to do it., however, you do need to know how to control what happens when you do.

Thanks, so i should just go with the flow? I am feeling sick as it is, which is the reason i wanted to speed up the process.
I'm glad you have lots of experience with chakras, what exactly does closing a chakra do? And how does it cause severe problems to not close, i thought having them open was a good thing? I've heard that having your chakras closed and blocked could cause problems. For some reason i just don't feel like i should shut em down, but i'll consider it. How do you go about closing a chakra and opening it anyway?

Ciqala
28-11-2010, 06:16 PM
I've done some visualizations too w/o prompting only to read about them later! Sending white light into the earth was one of them.

I'm a chicken sometimes, what can I say?!! Despite that I want to reassure you I've never experienced anything worse than headaches and a little nausea when my lower chakras opened. It's feeling things happening in my body and not knowing what is going to happen next that bothers me. And sometimes the energy can feel quite strong.

I have dreams sometimes where someone is working on my energy system and in the dreams I remind myself to relax and allow. There was even a dream where I and the other person joked about my worrying!

Oh neat.
Yeah i went through a stage of fear through all the strong sensations and such, think i'm getting used to all of the weird feelings though.
I managed to meditate last night, managed to get it down throughout my whole body, but it felt... very weak as soon as it left the throat chakra, i think i need to do some more unblocking on the lower chakras, especially the throat. But the strangest thing happened, frightened me and i jumped and stopped it. I could see millions of tiny colourful glass beads falling down on me, and i could feel the sensation as they landed all over my body, and that was startling.
That's amazing, maybe a spirit guide?

MYFIGO
28-11-2010, 08:30 PM
As I go through each Chakra, I imagine it to be able to rise up above my body and become as large as it would like to be. Then I allow it to reduce in size and return to normal position before moving on to the next. I don't think of a Chakra as being totally closed. I think they are always open at least to a small degree. As I move on to the next Chakra, the last one I worked on is still humming with energy.

In healing others, I have noticed some Chakras that were so receded that it took some coaxing to even see them, but they were always there. I also have opened some chakras that were so bright they lit up the entire room.

I have had the experience of my Crown chakra becoming a column of brilliant lightning white light coming down from the heavens into me. It was the most amazing peaceful experience. I was able to experience the feeling of it again just thinking about it although I could not see it.

In my opinion, doing chakra work requires a change in heart and perspective, not just intending the chakras be a certain way. For instance for me... improving the root chakra means connecting with and recognizing what nature does for us, walking in the grass and watching a river or waterfall and feeling the power (examples). Likewise opening the crown chakra means being aware of the divine and how we are connected to it and feeling the power.

I also know how hard it is to continue to have an earthly existence when so much is going on spiritually. But if we lose our ability to retain our earthly connection, we also lose the ability to relate to others who have little or no experience spiritually/psychically. So I try to remember that it's okay to have my head in the clouds as long as my feet touch the ground. :smile:

But even with all this said, the key element for me is helping others. Keeping the focus on myself and my own experiences is not nearly so satisfying as the work I do in healing and sharing what I've learned with others. It seems that the selflessness of caring about others is rewarded with growth and spiritual experiences that just evolve on their own without initiation on my part.

Spiritlite
28-11-2010, 08:54 PM
I find yoga helps to open my chakras up.
Spiritlite.

Lightspirit
29-11-2010, 03:06 AM
ho wwould you know if you did what happens to you?

mikron
29-11-2010, 03:47 AM
Greetings and cheers for all those who are on a spiritual path ...to know more of who they really are! Based on everything you said, (MYFIGO) Has a great suggestion to try to see all the chakras in a meditation but spiritual discipline is needed here meaning to be decisive!

The Biggest thing that is needed here is to find a spiritual Teacher where you live? and hopefully you find some genuine Light workers to be around so that you can open up to! then they can help you from the light worker perspective!

its exactly what you're doing here on spiritual forums but it may be somewhat hidden from you , that's your soul showing the many layers of how to overcome this situation!

Find a teacher if you can!!!

Namaste mikron

Ciqala
29-11-2010, 04:32 PM
As I go through each Chakra, I imagine it to be able to rise up above my body and become as large as it would like to be. Then I allow it to reduce in size and return to normal position before moving on to the next. I don't think of a Chakra as being totally closed. I think they are always open at least to a small degree. As I move on to the next Chakra, the last one I worked on is still humming with energy.

In healing others, I have noticed some Chakras that were so receded that it took some coaxing to even see them, but they were always there. I also have opened some chakras that were so bright they lit up the entire room.

I have had the experience of my Crown chakra becoming a column of brilliant lightning white light coming down from the heavens into me. It was the most amazing peaceful experience. I was able to experience the feeling of it again just thinking about it although I could not see it.

In my opinion, doing chakra work requires a change in heart and perspective, not just intending the chakras be a certain way. For instance for me... improving the root chakra means connecting with and recognizing what nature does for us, walking in the grass and watching a river or waterfall and feeling the power (examples). Likewise opening the crown chakra means being aware of the divine and how we are connected to it and feeling the power.

I also know how hard it is to continue to have an earthly existence when so much is going on spiritually. But if we lose our ability to retain our earthly connection, we also lose the ability to relate to others who have little or no experience spiritually/psychically. So I try to remember that it's okay to have my head in the clouds as long as my feet touch the ground. :smile:

But even with all this said, the key element for me is helping others. Keeping the focus on myself and my own experiences is not nearly so satisfying as the work I do in healing and sharing what I've learned with others. It seems that the selflessness of caring about others is rewarded with growth and spiritual experiences that just evolve on their own without initiation on my part.

Thanks for the awesome advice. When i do chakra visualizations, I can't seem to click on imagining it float above my body, or even near the surface, because i feel them strong, somewhere around the spine. I've tried to visualize them like you say, but the sensations end up making me visualize where its coming from. I guess my question is, is it better to imagine them over your body, than inside?
I'm still gaining a relationship and understanding of the colours and locations of the lower ones, so it takes me awhile.

I like your experience of the columns of white light, that sounds amazing.

Yes i also believe chakra work takes a change in heart and perspective, i also think it takes a lot of mental work, at least for me, i am sure the only reason i have come so far, is because of my spiritual growing, mental growing, and everything combined. I've come to a huge awareness and of letting go of things, but i'm struggling quite a bit in finding out, what else is not serving me, what else i have to change about my lifestyle in general, i mean i've done a huge freaking house cleaning on my body, mind, emotions, and psychologically, it's quite overwhelming to see what else i have left behind. I am sure i have some traumas, from childhood, i can't seem to access, and more causes for blocks, but i am sure my lower chakras are probably wounded.
It's so vastly confusing, because my chakras, well all chakras tend to represent so many things.

Ciqala
29-11-2010, 04:58 PM
Greetings and cheers for all those who are on a spiritual path ...to know more of who they really are! Based on everything you said, (MYFIGO) Has a great suggestion to try to see all the chakras in a meditation but spiritual discipline is needed here meaning to be decisive!

The Biggest thing that is needed here is to find a spiritual Teacher where you live? and hopefully you find some genuine Light workers to be around so that you can open up to! then they can help you from the light worker perspective!

its exactly what you're doing here on spiritual forums but it may be somewhat hidden from you , that's your soul showing the many layers of how to overcome this situation!

Find a teacher if you can!!!

Namaste mikron

I am unable to find a teacher unfortunately, and it's more than just that there is none, it's that my life seems to want me to not find a mentor, and i also have bad trust issues, due to really bad experiences with past mentors.
Well the only person i have contact with that knows some things, offered to do a healing session on me, but my instincts and spirits told me she was not healed herself enough to be able to heal me, and i know she has lust towards me, which i don't find respectful, but even if it was, it would creep me out the whole time.
It seems everyone i find around here... they are into bad medicine, or just aren't healed or knowledgable enough to be teaching anyone, and i am very superstitious when it comes to letting other people practice powerful things around me, or for me, when they don't know what they are doing, because i know how easily it could hurt me in many ways.
I've also come to the realization that my spirits send me enough information on what i need at the time, and that i have been able to get by more than fine, with the guidance of them, as well as guidance from amazing people online in places like this. I still would love to find a mentor, but if i need one, my life will direct me to find one. I'm very superstitious that way, also. I don't want to go out and search, in case i find someone i don't need, i need to wait for signs. I'd love to find a mentor that could teach me things about my different bloodlines and cultures, like hinduism, egypt, and aztec, stuff like that, but my community is not multicultural like that.

As spiritlite advised, i am searching for yoga, i've heard there is Kundalini Yoga, hopefully i can find some offered around my town, and surely, that will be helpful, and may even lead me to knowledgable people. Other than that, can't think of any other places around here, where i would even find anyone that could teach me about this stuff. As far as i know, even my native culture doesn't get much into chakras, but my elders do believe in energies.

Yeah, another thing that goes against my spiritual beliefs, is asking for payment for spiritual practices, it's just that i'm pretty traditional to my native culture, and we stick to the fact, that at lodges, people bring sacred gifts (like tobacco) to offer the spirits and the spirits only, but these days people bring money, or extravagant jewellery, or want to do trades for spiritual practices or teaching, and forget about the spirits. I really respected this elder, until i found out he was handing out native traditions "introductory to shamanism" courses for 500 dollars an hour session, which is seriously disobeying the native sacred law.
I realize, i am WAY too picky with all of these things, and it's not at all helping me in finding someone to teach me, but i just can't really alter the things i feel strongly about. I don't even stick to solely native culture in my beliefs, as i am mixed race, but that element from my native heritage, is something that i apply to all things because it feels right to my heart. I go to drum circles every now and then, and i bring some money to the leader to be respectful, but still... the only items she uses that cost money for the ceremony is One apple, and a tea bag. I just don't get it, that people can make a business out of spirituality. I'm truly sorry if i offend anyone by saying this, i just don't understand it. There's not a lot of people, after, following my picky standards, that i trust enough, so i don't know what to do. Do i do something that is pretty much a sin to my belief system, or do i wait for someone who fits all my standards? I don't know much about how to pick a mentor.

mikron
29-11-2010, 07:55 PM
greetings you have very intense energies in this experience and also with others you need to focus out of the box a little , an example of what I am saying here is sometimes a Light Worker can only go upwards but they may be trying some stuff that is not good for them in the given moment! To try an help here look at meditation section an example here is to try to find meditations that will heal but also ground a light worker for example "The Micro Cosmic orbit" Meditation follow some ideas with the Toltec path might be good to focus you a little more!
Remember key words "Grounding and Healing" also what comes to mind in the Yoga ideas try "Yoga Nidra" meditation

also a small note to try to handle some intense energies think of new words to help your self and also help you to be around others better !the ascension word :"Virtue" the metaphysical meaning = "to be more of your own true self"

peace mikron


ps : i suggest to not follow Native american and also you need to focus on intuition from creative side only not any other way

MYFIGO
30-11-2010, 12:01 AM
Hello Cigala,

Thanks for the awesome advice. When i do chakra visualizations, I can't seem to click on imagining it float above my body, or even near the surface, because i feel them strong, somewhere around the spine. I've tried to visualize them like you say, but the sensations end up making me visualize where its coming from. I guess my question is, is it better to imagine them over your body, than inside? I'd say neither is better. Whatever works for you is what is best.
I'm still gaining a relationship and understanding of the colours and locations of the lower ones, so it takes me awhile. At first I could only imagine what the chakras were supposed to look like. My original information suggested clear coloured glass balls. When I did see Chakra colors.. they were more like chalk.. not clear but opaque. And depending on the condition of someones chakra, they could be any shape or size or color to indicate a particular condition. It was probably 6 months of daily meditation before I saw any of my own chakras!

I like your experience of the columns of white light, that sounds amazing.Thank you, it was amazing.

Everyone is so lovely to share their experiences with each other, but I cannot emphasize the value of trusting your own experiences.

I am sure i have some traumas, from childhood, i can't seem to access, and more causes for blocks, but i am sure my lower chakras are probably wounded. It's so vastly confusing, because my chakras, well all chakras tend to represent so many things.I think that working one chakra helps the others as well, so I believe that the lower chakras will improve with the others even if you are not addressing those particular issues at this time.

In regards to finding a healer or teacher ... I think there is not just one... but rather a series of healers and teachers who are able to share what they know with us and as a result of that knowledge and the application of it, we become healthier and wiser. Then there comes a time when we are called to recognize that we have acquired knowledge and wisdom that can be shared with others.

Ciqala
30-11-2010, 12:38 AM
greetings you have very intense energies in this experience and also with others you need to focus out of the box a little , an example of what I am saying here is sometimes a Light Worker can only go upwards but they may be trying some stuff that is not good for them in the given moment! To try an help here look at meditation section an example here is to try to find meditations that will heal but also ground a light worker for example "The Micro Cosmic orbit" Meditation follow some ideas with the Toltec path might be good to focus you a little more!
Remember key words "Grounding and Healing" also what comes to mind in the Yoga ideas try "Yoga Nidra" meditation

also a small note to try to handle some intense energies think of new words to help your self and also help you to be around others better !the ascension word :"Virtue" the metaphysical meaning = "to be more of your own true self"

peace mikron


ps : i suggest to not follow Native american and also you need to focus on intuition from creative side only not any other way

Thank you, you've given me lots to think of, look up and work on! I've been hounding the internet for exercises galore, hopefully i can find the Micro Cosmic Orbit meditation. Thanks for the tips Mikron.

Yeah i can understand that, i just get so confused with all the different cultural visions coming to me. Creative side... I'm going to build myself an alter, creatively without following any rules and such, just what is in my heart. I think i still like to add in the deities from different cultures that come to me, but i'm slowly learning to find the balance and such. I used to be strictly into Native Culture, but then my life and spirits directed me to explore new areas, and either way, each belief system is very much alike.

Uma
30-11-2010, 12:55 AM
Hi Ciqala,

My teacher has been working with me since I met him in 1997. He's first rate and lives permanently anchored in the crown chakra. He teaches that the crown chakra is not a chakra to open but the destination. The crown chakra is the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel. What you are experiencing is the brow chakra opening and starting to connect with the crown. When the brow chakra opens fully, the Energy will jump to the crown. That is not something we can force but someone that is given to us by grace, when we are deserving.

If you are praying to speed things up, you are asking for more experiences that will transform you. They may be internal like the ones you are experiencing or external - events in your life.

Regarding those wild kinds of internal experiences... I read once that it's like turning on a garden hose that is all knotted up. As the knots come undone and the water is rushing to get out, the hose starts to shake itself violently to straight out. Once it's straight, the water flows calmly.

Ciqala
30-11-2010, 01:00 AM
Hello Cigala,

I'd say neither is better. Whatever works for you is what is best.
At first I could only imagine what the chakras were supposed to look like. My original information suggested clear coloured glass balls. When I did see Chakra colors.. they were more like chalk.. not clear but opaque. And depending on the condition of someones chakra, they could be any shape or size or color to indicate a particular condition. It was probably 6 months of daily meditation before I saw any of my own chakras!

Thank you, it was amazing.

Everyone is so lovely to share their experiences with each other, but I cannot emphasize the value of trusting your own experiences.

I think that working one chakra helps the others as well, so I believe that the lower chakras will improve with the others even if you are not addressing those particular issues at this time.

In regards to finding a healer or teacher ... I think there is not just one... but rather a series of healers and teachers who are able to share what they know with us and as a result of that knowledge and the application of it, we become healthier and wiser. Then there comes a time when we are called to recognize that we have acquired knowledge and wisdom that can be shared with others.

Well i'm pretty open to trying new ways and such, i'll never know what works until i try to my fullest.

And that is a new concept to me. You can actually see your chakras???? Is that in a physical sense, or a spiritual sense? I realize that question makes no sense, i guess what i'm trying to ask is, can you see them during meditation through spiritual vision, or can you really see them, normally?
Either way seems fantastic to me. And you say lots of hard work through meditation and visualization to get to that stage? I seem to be very easily coaxed into meditative state lately, but i've just been following what everyone says it's supposed to look like. 6 months! Hopefully i gain patience through all this! :) Good for you, i feel very excited and happy for you, that sounds like an amazing achievement.

I haven't seen them, and my visualizations easily become weird. This one time i tried to visualize my root chakra spinning, and it ended up spinning so fast it made me dizzy. I thought it was supposed to ground me. Another time a horrible image popped up of a silver thing stabbing through my throat chakra, what on earth? I think it looked black. Freaked me out, had to stop my meditation, and i really hope that never happens again. I hope nothing bad will happen if i accidentally imagine something negative. What if it was real, what would that mean??

Yeah I greatly enjoy hearing of amazing experiences, gives me shivers. Trusting own experiences, yes, i have a hard time with that in the beginning stages of everything. I think i am way too analytical to be spiritual sometimes.

I've heard that! I hope it's true, that would be good if the chakras make each other healthy.

That's a good view, i mean, i believe i've had numerous soul mates and still will, thus should be the same for learning from numerous teachers.

Ciqala
30-11-2010, 01:10 AM
Hi Ciqala,

My teacher has been working with me since I met him in 1997. He's first rate and lives permanently anchored in the crown chakra. He teaches that the crown chakra is not a chakra to open but the destination. The crown chakra is the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel. What you are experiencing is the brow chakra opening and starting to connect with the crown. When the brow chakra opens fully, the Energy will jump to the crown. That is not something we can force but someone that is given to us by grace, when we are deserving.

If you are praying to speed things up, you are asking for more experiences that will transform you. They may be internal like the ones you are experiencing or external - events in your life.

Regarding those wild kinds of internal experiences... I read once that it's like turning on a garden hose that is all knotted up. As the knots come undone and the water is rushing to get out, the hose starts to shake itself violently to straight out. Once it's straight, the water flows calmly.

Hello again :)
My brow chakra is no longer bothering me though, it is nice and calm, seems to be sleeping, but i can turn it on,
All i feel is the crown chakra. It feels like it has already expanded, and now my crown chakra is starting to expand downwards into my body. The feelings of energy moving aren't bothering any more, they have become delightful, it's just the sick and gross symptoms that want me to speed things up. I feel more grounded today though.

I agree. I am quite daring, and inpatient, i know i have to work on that, the idea of transformation - i prayed for it months ago, and i got a HUGE transformation, brought me to this point, and it seriously saved my life. If i haven't come this far i would be dead. But i also know, i shouldn't rush things. It happened, because it had to happen, i should take my time, since i don't quite know what's going on with me.

Hehe :) i really enjoyed the last bit about the garden hose, that's exactly what it seems like too.

Thank you!

Ciqala
30-11-2010, 05:50 AM
um...
i think i'm going blind. I mean i have a history of blurry vision, but this is just bad. It feels like my eyes are just not working or observing anything.

Tonight at badminton during a major haze of disorientation, I saw what some here say is the beginning of an aura, the white outline around people,

except... when i relaxed my eyes their faces disappeared into weird blobs, and looked kind of scary, and then i could start to make out the white outline become bigger, and it glowed, then i started seeing transparent blue, and pinks and purples, but it didn't look real, like anything i've ever seen. When this happened, my vision blurred, my eyes felt like they were strained, i couldn't make it stop, and it kind of hurt my brain, so i think it might just be eye problems, i really don't know, but it really interfered with my game of badminton :( I spaced out just staring at people and kind of really creeping some of them out. I love badminton, don't want to stop going, but every time i shook hands with them it felt like i was being electrocuted. This stuff is getting ridiculous, i seriously felt grounded earlier on.
I have a history of bad vision, but this was just bad. I just made a thread here earlier about how i wanted to work on my traumas to cure my vision, and tonight it just gets worse, I'm kind of worried i might need lazer eye surgery.
why is my vision getting worse now of all times, i'm seriously going to panic about going blind now.

MYFIGO
30-11-2010, 11:29 PM
:smile: Hang in there, girl. Things always seem worse when you panic. The vision and colors you describe sound like aura colors. And the fact that you feel energy exchange when you shake hands seems like just that... energy exchange. I don't think an eye problem alone would cause that.

However... low blood sugar might possibly create some of the symptoms. Were you very hungry at the time you played?

You asked how I saw the chakras... I see them in my 3rd eye during meditation. It happens two ways. One is when I try to visualize the chakra itself... and I see it in its proper place. The other way is when the ball shaped chakra floats up from the right side of me (from my body) and then crosses my face and disappears. I can replay it by being patient.

Six months wasn't really a long time to wait. I had given up on ever seeing my own chakras... so I was quite surprised and pleased when it happened.

Ciqala
01-12-2010, 02:28 AM
Thanks Myfigo, i got through my silly panic, it sounds like an aura from what i've heard about, but the thing that makes me think it's not was the eye strain, pain and blurred faces, also all my surroundings became kind of more blurry than usual, i say usual because my eyes aren't that great to begin with.

No blood sugar problems, I'm perfectly healthy, and eat regularly and healthy, got tests done and everything. The other symptoms are due to kundalini, or blockages, or lack of grounding and such, my doctor has no clue what i'm going through.

My vision is back to normal now, but that was an odd experience. Yeah I know about the energy exchange, but it's really starting to annoy me, although it is kind of cool.

Oh that's awesome, thanks for sharing more on seeing your chakras, very amazing indeed. Thank you for keeping up with my posts, i really appreciate it!

twitch
01-12-2010, 03:08 AM
I have had the same questions as ceqala but i figured i was not ready so i just go with what feels right for me it works and everybody is different i wish it would hurry up but now i know it won;t so i just go with the flow

Serenity Bear
01-12-2010, 09:06 AM
Thanks, so i should just go with the flow? I am feeling sick as it is, which is the reason i wanted to speed up the process.
I'm glad you have lots of experience with chakras, what exactly does closing a chakra do? And how does it cause severe problems to not close, i thought having them open was a good thing? I've heard that having your chakras closed and blocked could cause problems. For some reason i just don't feel like i should shut em down, but i'll consider it. How do you go about closing a chakra and opening it anyway?

It maybe your pushing through to much already. If your feeling sick around the navel it could be the solar plexus or sacral plexus chakras.

Closing down the chakra shuts the amount of energy coming into the body and the aura. It stops the communication with the spirit world, and thus gives you a much needed rest. If you over use the chakras you can get physical symptoms (migraines, throat problems, anxiety, stomach ache, nausea, leg problems etc). Over expanding a chakra by pushing through too much energy makes them strain and you feel a stretching pain.

Not closing your chakras will cause you to have contact with the spirit world 24/7, the wont shut up or leave you alone, and believe me a few nights without sleep you'll get the reason why you need to close. Not all mediums do close, their guides do the work, but most I know like to have control over what and when they speak to spirit.

You open your chakras simply by thinking of spirit, you can open them individually by thinking of each one, and do the same closing. Always open from bottom upwards and close from top downwards. If you look up a good chakra chart on line, imagine an opened flower in the place of the chakra and visualise it closing. You can also close a chakra by visualising it turning anti clockwise. To open you just do the opposite. Remember all except the crown and base have backs to close as well. The crown is closed but the base is left slightly open.

Blockages are a different thing from closing. Blockages can be caused by stuck emotional issues, and injury to the chakra ( dented petals, foggy vortexs etc). The only way around this is to get the stuck issues out by journalling or councelling and healed and see a healer to heal the chakra from its injury (this will happen over time on its own but the healer would speed it up a little). We heal on the mind, body, spirit level, the chakras and aura being the spirit level.

Hope that helps.


PS: The book Hands of Light by Brennan is a good one showing some good illustrations of chakras.