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Emerald Imber
02-06-2014, 09:01 PM
Honestly, I have never experienced a spirit physically hurting you and have always believed they couldn't. Other people would say otherwise and swear that they can and have done so to them. Since I have never experienced it I'm partial to the idea now but in actuality can spirits hurt you?

Xenophilia
02-06-2014, 09:40 PM
I personally have been, but it's a mechanic I don't fully understand. Many say that telling them to go away makes them, but I haven't found that to be the case. Along with the idea that the amount of energy needed to even partially manipulate anything should keep them from being able to harm a person. I don't really believe that either.

Emerald Imber
02-06-2014, 11:07 PM
Why do people say they cant hurt you then? People who seem to have vast knowledge on the subject.

Lilyth Von Gore
03-06-2014, 11:49 PM
They can harm you.
There is a spirit who haunts a crypt in Edinburgh. For some reason, any women who have been in that crypt on one of the ghost tours are attacked by some unseen entity. They go home, go to bed and when they wake up they have scratches across areas where they couldn't have possibly reached during the night.

Kotori
04-06-2014, 12:36 AM
I had the opportunity once to ask a world renown psychic medium that very question. I asked him if spirits can cause actual physical harm to the living. He said that spirits can not harm us physically.

elisi
04-06-2014, 12:47 AM
i saw a documentary about a woman who was being terrorized by a spirit.

this actually took place in my town.

she would get physical scratches on her.

professionals came in and couldn't find any evidence of ghosts or whatever.

she finally went to a psychiatrist and it was determined that she held such rage and frustration toward her family inside herself but was afraid to confront it-she actually manifested it herself.

our minds are strong. i do believe we have the ability to manifest stuff.

youngers1810
04-06-2014, 12:48 AM
Spirits nudge me all the time so its quite possible for a spirit to harm someone but it must be rare.
Most spirits are harmless.

Emerald Imber
04-06-2014, 12:48 AM
It's clear that the obviously can hurt you but people still say they can't. Are they just trying to make themselves beleive this for their own comfurt or is there some vast knowledge that I'm missing somewhere?

Mazulu
04-06-2014, 12:52 AM
There are lots of reports of people being scratched by ghosts. Fewer reports of people being pushed down flights of stairs by ghosts.

If a ghost can behave like a quantum field, then we know that all quantum fields have energy states. If the (quantum) ghost can fill those energy states with energy, which it gets from batteries, the air, people, it can manifest phenomena in a physical way.

If a ghost won't leave when you ask it to, ask what it wants. Does it want to communicate something to you or get something off it's chest?

Emerald Imber
04-06-2014, 12:58 AM
Ahhhh I see. That is so true but I still don't understand where the idea of ghosts not hurting you came from. Also I love your avatar. I love owls!

DayLight1555
04-06-2014, 02:35 AM
Honestly, I have never experienced a spirit physically hurting you and have always believed they couldn't. Other people would say otherwise and swear that they can and have done so to them. Since I have never experienced it I'm partial to the idea now but in actuality can spirits hurt you?
I believe that spirits mess with your mind. They have a contact with your mind.

Remember, the pain is felt in the mind. Some people can't feel pain at all because their mind isn't programmed as other people's. Or some people can feel pain when there is no leg (phantom leg syndrome).

Spirits are related to the realm of consciousness, realm of the mind.

The things in there can be manifested. You can make yourself feel things as though they were physical.

You yourself could create bad situations for yourself within your own mind and feel bad or harmed as a result.

So, yes, they can. But it's not physical. It's the battle of the mind. and what you believe also plays a role. So perhaps the fact that you don't believe is helping you. Or maybe you just by chance never ran into "bad" waves of consciousness.

It's a matter of faith too. So some people have enough faith (to believe them to disappear, so they go away because people believe that they will)

Some people believe that Jesus can help them and make bad ones go away. and that happens also.

It's a mind related thing and related to beliefs and faith and intent and your subconscious.

Emerald Imber
04-06-2014, 02:56 AM
Wow, so....They cant but they can.... Mind blowing! Ha ha!

sea-dove
12-06-2014, 10:40 AM
Possibly.

Both my children had "something" throw something at them, not light stuff either. One had a dolls cradle thrown at her and my other child had a bottle of cream thrown at her which hit her hard in the face.

Ive had my own encounter in which I was attacked... in my case it was by an astral demon thou. By the time I got away (I really thought it was going to kill me!! another had to save me)... I ran to the mirror to see if it had real affects on me and physically looked shocking, my face was a horrible hue and lips were even blue (it had stopped me from being able to physically breath by blowing some kind of energy into my face which was so thick and dense I couldnt breath it, it did that while holding me down, I was struggling but couldnt break free of it). I spent half the night crying that night, too afraid to go back to bed, couldnt call anyone till morning.

I do think thou attacks like this are very rare but yes they can occur (I dont know if normal every day spirit types can do this thou). Should you worry? Probably not unless you are messing around with things you probably shouldnt (my attack was my own fault), this kind of thing is unlikely to occur.

desert rat
12-06-2014, 02:16 PM
I wounder if the people being hurt by a ghost are really being hurt by there own thought forms , being created out of there own fear.

Mazulu
12-06-2014, 03:40 PM
I wounder if the people being hurt by a ghost are really being hurt by there own thought forms , being created out of there own fear.
Can you please explain how neurological activity can directly result in injuries to the body? Injuries like scratches and bites?

Revya
13-06-2014, 02:28 AM
I give only my own opinion on the subject, everybody's experiences are different.

It depends on the entity in question. Some can, some can't. Of those who can there are plenty more who prefer to ((Pardon my vulgar phrasing)) screw with you in other ways that don't involve physically harming you, because they enjoy the sport of it more than they want to cause you physical pain. Very rarely will an entity actually try to physically harm you.They either can't do it, or they find it too easy to do and work on harming you in more complicated ((though for them, much more rewarding)) ways.

But this is not to say that it never happens. As others have attested to, It can and most certainly does. But it's not particularly a frequent phenomena.

Two things. Always make sure you have your home protected ((which can be as simple or as complicated as you like and as your awareness and ability allows))

and, never assume you are at fault when an entity decides to mess with you in such a way ((Plenty of them are in it for the sport)) but never rule that possibility out either ((You'd be surprised what lengths some are willing to go to for the sake of avenging a perceived wrong))

Even among the dark ones, manners are not without their place.

*Elsa*
17-06-2014, 05:30 PM
I think they say ghost can't hurt you cause it makes people afraid. What you can't see is scary and most people don't see ghost/spirit.

Emerald Imber
17-06-2014, 06:34 PM
I think they say ghost can't hurt you cause it makes people afraid. What you can't see is scary and most people don't see ghost/spirit.

Agreed. People rather pretend it's not there to make themselves feel better.

Badger1777
17-06-2014, 06:47 PM
Why do people say they cant hurt you then? People who seem to have vast knowledge on the subject.

Because from a very young age, we are brainwashed by our well intentioned parents to believe that.

I think its very rare for a spirit to have enough energy to hurt you in the physical world (although by no means out of the question). More likely if they want to hurt you, they'd mess with your spirit. That would manifest in the waking world as things like unexplained negative mental states like depression and anxiety, or lethargy and a general degradation of health.

Dustine
25-06-2014, 11:12 AM
Some can hurt you, some can't, i think. It likely depends on the strength/energy of the spirit, and if they want to hurt people or not.
And about the thing about that if you tell them to go away, i think that depends on your energy, and theirs. If you have a strong, self-assure energy or 'vibe', it's likely they will leave you alone. Unless they want to mess with you.
If your energy is weak or you are afraid, some spirits might just 'laugh' at you, and if they leave it'll only be temporary.

Leslie
16-07-2014, 09:58 PM
People seem to have forgotten that spirits were once humans when some pass over they are not sure what have happen and are confuse which can lead to anger! Then you have you male violent "I think that might be the spelling, not sure" ones which was usually violent in life or was done wrong! Yes, they can I know from personal experience. They can!

Lynn
16-07-2014, 11:08 PM
Hello

Yes they can being on physical harm. Many times this happens when they are provoked (something that should never be done). If one that has passed away but has not found their crossing to the other side or the Light they become Earth Bound, this is what I refer to as a Ghost. In this place they are more physical in nature and if confused or mentally not stable they can lash out more.

At times there are those that have passed but have unfinished business in the living World to complete or feel they have to complete and in this space too they can be more assertive. Do they mean harm not really more they are looking for that one that can sense them. That is where Mediums like me come into the mix. We can not only communicate but we too can cross them over.

I have been scratched, chocked, (not on purpose), pushed downstairs, pinned to a wall ext. Have I ever been hurt to the point I needed attentions no, but I do feel that if one provokes this can happen.

Many time when I am called in to work with a home or building there has been some provoking done. Remember always the dead need as much respects and understandings as the living as we will all find that place one day as well.

Lynn

Jin604
12-08-2014, 11:59 AM
One entity scratched on the neck for a week straight, twisted my dreams and pushed me around in my sleep so I'd stay awake. This is just one example. YES they can harm you. Do not listen to those that say they don't because they just haven't met that situation yet and completely disregard the experiences of others.

candelight
12-08-2014, 03:08 PM
yes, they can harm you as much as Kim Kardashian's hurts one' s eyes.

IsleWalker
12-08-2014, 04:50 PM
I believe that spirits mess with your mind. They have a contact with your mind.

Remember, the pain is felt in the mind. Some people can't feel pain at all because their mind isn't programmed as other people's. Or some people can feel pain when there is no leg (phantom leg syndrome).

Spirits are related to the realm of consciousness, realm of the mind.

The things in there can be manifested. You can make yourself feel things as though they were physical.

You yourself could create bad situations for yourself within your own mind and feel bad or harmed as a result.

So, yes, they can. But it's not physical. It's the battle of the mind. and what you believe also plays a role. So perhaps the fact that you don't believe is helping you. Or maybe you just by chance never ran into "bad" waves of consciousness.

It's a matter of faith too. So some people have enough faith (to believe them to disappear, so they go away because people believe that they will)

Some people believe that Jesus can help them and make bad ones go away. and that happens also.

It's a mind related thing and related to beliefs and faith and intent and your subconscious.

Well said.

The Back Seat
14-08-2014, 06:37 PM
They can not harm you physically, but they can harm you mentally and spiritually. The negative energies are all around us and if you let them manipulate you then they will. They can make you do irrational things such as harm yourself physically. Anything from bring afraid of the dark to suicide are physical reactions to being haunted by negative spirits. You may not see them but you sure as heck can feel them. You can block negative energy with techniques such as prayer, sage, epson salt, etc. The idea is to give yourself to higher positive energies while pushing away the negative. If all you have is positivity then being haunted is impossible.

Jin604
19-08-2014, 04:10 PM
I think the better question is under what situation can they or would they harm you. Their capabilities( depending on the entity of course) are pretty clear if you go and try to find out what they are. If you really wanted to get hurt ya they could do that for you. It's just spirits don't normally go around hurting people just for fun. There's usually an underlying motive.

Lynn
19-08-2014, 04:18 PM
Hello

Most times they are looking for understandings. They reach out and touch you and leave a mark. To wonder at times not knowing your dead or knowing that there is information that is needed for justice is very unsettling. At times they just want to be found if possible their remains found or their story told.

It is more rare (unless you go around provoking them ) that they simply lash out.

I once had finger marks on my neck, the odd thing is that they showed as if they had been "self inflicted" they went in that direction yet my hands never touched my throat. I was gasping for air, on a minor level. When I asked on whom was with me I came to find that the person had been suffocated in their car. it was ruled suicide but it was truly not. They had come too and put their hands to their throat gasping for air. Thus the marks I was presented with . That was this spirits way of showing me their death event. Not the nicest of situations in a room full of people not in an event setting but it was proof for some what can happen.

There are many cases where TV investigators provoke and that is plain wrong. They are asking for the worst of energies to come to them, and in time it might well catch up with them.

Lynn

LillyBelle
20-08-2014, 03:01 AM
I use to believe they couldn't,but if the spirit is powerful enough,it certainly can. They can possess people,scratch them,some even claim to of been pushed. Now,I certainly don't believe all accounts that read or hear on TV (especially on TV),but I believe some people may have been attacked by spirits.

Flear
20-08-2014, 05:28 AM
is a ghost aware ?, much better question.

a ghost has to be attached to the physical to have any affect on it.
a ghost also has to be unaware it's dead

once you remove the physical, you have the spiritual, although on the physical plane, it's not really the spiritual, it's the mind of the departed not yet rejoined with it's higher self that's stuck between, disconnected, and not aware of it's current state, ... a rather troubling state to be in.

but it's this non-physical it exists, ... you exist in it as well, your just also trapped in the very physical.

anyway, ... it's energy, energy with drive, with motivation, and as spirit(sorta) the only energy there is is emotional energy, drive, motivation, purpose, without the energy it's really stuck in limbo, a ghost of a ghost, ... but give it some energy, enough energy it can pull itself together (still not physical) but now it's got enough energy/drive/motivation/purpose to interact with the physical.

... and like attracts like, ... it's like drama (i tend to use that a lot "drama"), we are drawn towards thoughts and feelings that inspire us to feel a purpose

you ever notice you keep meeting the same kinds of people in your life ?, the same kinds of people draw out your emotional best & worst, ... while those that you just don't match, well, you just don't match, those that inspire you to feelings of inspiration & motivation, those that inspire you to feelings of defiance & anger, ...

so a ghost needs energy, and that's going to be from us, the people around the ghost that provide the energy the ghost resonates with, inspires it to action

but it's not aware it's dead, but it's intentions/motivations/goals/purpose are the same as they were when he/she died (and is now trapped in limbo - unware they are dead), ... it's like wanting to finish a race, it's the last 100yards, and suddenly you're struck dead so quickly you don't know it, ... you spend the rest of (till you realize and move on) intent and focused on finishing that last 100yards, it's your everything, and all you need is the energy to remind you, to bring your awareness up (similar energy remember) so that you can resume finishing that last 100yards

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anyway, ... back to the ghost that can or cannot hurt you.

2 things, ... one it's in your head, you are manifesting the energy in your beliefs that you are being attacked by a ghost
or there is a ghost intent on 'something' and you are caught in the middle.

now is the ghost attacking you ?
is the ghost defending
is the ghost justifying
is the ghost angry & lashing out
is the ghost ... (pick the energy that it's going through and is now strong enough the ghost can manifest at least partly to interact with the world around it)

if there is enough energy (angry & lashing out) to manifest the ghost, and the object of it's attention is close (again whatever it was wanting to lash out against) is near, that person is going to get caught in the middle.

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most ghosts are never ghosts, you die, your higher self guides you, you move on.

it's those rare few that the higher self is entertained by being in that transition, ... till it gets bored and reclaims itself

no one, no ghost can remain a ghost forever, the physical has a sense of time, even if your not aware you are dead, and your not totally aware of the world around you, time is physical, it interacts with you, till things just are different enough to cause you to requestion what is going on in your life (wait, your dead - ... so now you're aware you have passed on and you can let go)

there really are not many ghosts, ... leaving option 1 far more likely, belief that there is a malicious ghost, it is interacting with you and you are being physically attacked.

option one is always more likely, ... but not always, so some attacks are genuine.

Mandelyn
22-08-2014, 02:29 AM
yes,spirits can harm you. I and my sister have been attacked before in our very old farm house. The toilet lid slammed on her hand and a force was pushing it down so could not lift it up for a few seconds. I have been inappropriately touched before. I keep the light of God around me and He and Jesus have helped us through more than just regular life drama. Respect the spirits, but if you are attacked, know and trust in the Light. Believe in it with all your being and you will be safe.

Emerald Imber
28-08-2014, 05:57 AM
yes, they can harm you as much as Kim Kardashian's hurts one' s eyes.

HA HA HA!!! Oh, I needed that!:tongue:

starling
06-09-2014, 12:55 PM
Possibly.

Both my children had "something" throw something at them, not light stuff either. One had a dolls cradle thrown at her and my other child had a bottle of cream thrown at her which hit her hard in the face.

Ive had my own encounter in which I was attacked... in my case it was by an astral demon thou. By the time I got away (I really thought it was going to kill me!! another had to save me)... I ran to the mirror to see if it had real affects on me and physically looked shocking, my face was a horrible hue and lips were even blue (it had stopped me from being able to physically breath by blowing some kind of energy into my face which was so thick and dense I couldnt breath it, it did that while holding me down, I was struggling but couldnt break free of it). I spent half the night crying that night, too afraid to go back to bed, couldnt call anyone till morning.

I do think thou attacks like this are very rare but yes they can occur (I dont know if normal every day spirit types can do this thou). Should you worry? Probably not unless you are messing around with things you probably shouldnt (my attack was my own fault), this kind of thing is unlikely to occur.



Good post, good answer.

I heard of one once that was throwing heavy objects a round, as I recall it was the TV mostly. It wasn't a new property either it was a modern council flat, I think.

Like people, I think most are fairly benelovant but the odd one isn't. In the example I gave one must presume the spirit wasn't happy about some thing.

I was joking about lexicon once and my brother commented "you play with that stuff at your own peril" and the words stuck.

My folks stayed in friends old cottage (Near Chippenham, Great Britain) soon after they were married (before the family house was finished). They won't talk about it now but something defo happened.......my Dad's a scientific man who isn't moved easily.

What ever it was never actually did any harm but my impression is they weren't sorry to move out....

stonecollector
06-09-2014, 08:40 PM
long term entity always shocked edge of toenails (feels like burn) and now last night moved to my finger nail.

Cheers, Stonecollector.