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deepsea
21-11-2010, 06:34 PM
A question.

Why do we need guides in our earthly lives?
What exactly do they do to help us?

As far as I know,reading about reincarnation,we are given a certain life to live.
We live that life,making our own decisions and take the fallout if we make the wrong decision.

Now where do guides come in to assist us,if we make a wrong choice and take a wrong turning in that road?
Can they put us back on the straight and narrow or are we to sort our mistakes out?

In other words,are guides really needed?

Deapsea

Summerland
21-11-2010, 06:39 PM
A question.

Why do we need guides in our earthly lives?
What exactly do they do to help us?

As far as I know,reading about reincarnation,we are given a certain life to live.
We live that life,making our own decisions and take the fallout if we make the wrong decision.

Now where do guides come in to assist us,if we make a wrong choice and take a wrong turning in that road?
Can they put us back on the straight and narrow or are we to sort our mistakes out?

In other words,are guides really needed?

Deapsea

Guides ar emore to help give us little nudges along the way; post little sticky notes along our path. Mine accompanies me to "Summerland" and explains how it functions. I know of a shaman who has 3 spirit guides and his guides have let me see them. He is baffled as to why they would do that since I don't look Indian ( altho I do have Native American blood), but his guides have never revealed themselves to anyone.

There are a lot of memebers here who know much more than I do about spirit guides, tho. I have only had experience with mine and my friend's.:confused:

Rumar
21-11-2010, 06:46 PM
A lot of people tend to rely on others for their spiritual development whether its with guides or other folks/beings regardless of the being's place (astral or physical)

SunSister
21-11-2010, 06:51 PM
I see my guides as people I can bounce ideas and suggestions off of. :smile: The advantage is that they are more aware of my life plans than I (consciously) am, so they can talk me through a lot of the things I tend to come up with. Mine have always said that there are no wrong choices, but that there can be misinformed choices along the way. That's when they have to work a little extra to make sure that everything ends up as was discussed before I came down to Earth. (It is quite hilarious to have them around when I'm not sure what decision to make, to be honest with you. :wink: They'll wince and hiss at the particularly bad suggestions that I never want to follow up on before they even notice I'm not taking those suggestions seriously.)

Why do I need guides? I love the company. :D They let me sort out most of my troubles, but keep an eye and ear out in my life so that I don't end up in big messes. I need 'em because they know my soul's contract for this life and I trust them to help me fulfill that contract. Easy as that.

Tricia
21-11-2010, 06:52 PM
My thoughts on Guides are, we have one main Guide, who has been with us since our birth (before that even) and that Guide remains with us until we pass over.
There are a number of other guides/helpers, each one being with us through different stages of our life. Once we have learnt a certain lesson/s that Guide moves on and another one steps in and so it continues.

Each and everyone of us has a spirit guide, not one person walks this earth alone. We do not necessary keep with the same guide throughout our earthly life. We attract new guides as when the needs be, and to what level we are at our development.

When we evolve more, we can also have many guides to help us do the work that we have set out to do, they can help us in different aspects of our lives but cannot sort out every problem we come across, they may help us so that we do not need to suffer more than we have to but also we have to take responsibility for ourselves, of all our problems there is always an answers but not always in the way we hoped, but more so for a lesson, development or higher good that was needed.

mac
21-11-2010, 06:52 PM
A lot of people tend to rely on others for their spiritual development whether its with guides or other folks/beings regardless of the being's place (astral or physical)

'Others' do have their places and roles..whether one should rely on them is a moot point.:wink:

mac
21-11-2010, 06:53 PM
My thoughts on Guides are, we have one main Guide, who has been with us since our birth (before that even) and that Guide remains with us until we pass over.
There are a number of other guides/helpers, each one being with us through different stages of our life. Once we have learnt a certain lesson/s that Guide moves on and another one steps in and so it continues...

I'm broadly in agreement but don't like 'guides' much.

I prefer 'helpers' - much less contentious. :wink:

mac
21-11-2010, 06:55 PM
I see my guides as people I can bounce ideas and suggestions off of. :smile: The advantage is that they are more aware of my life plans than I (consciously) am, so they can talk me through a lot of the things I tend to come up with. Mine have always said that there are no wrong choices, but that there can be misinformed choices along the way. That's when they have to work a little extra to make sure that everything ends up as was discussed before I came down to Earth. (It is quite hilarious to have them around when I'm not sure what decision to make, to be honest with you. :wink: They'll wince and hiss at the particularly bad suggestions that I never want to follow up on before they even notice I'm not taking those suggestions seriously.)

Why do I need guides? I love the company. :D They let me sort out most of my troubles, but keep an eye and ear out in my life so that I don't end up in big messes. I need 'em because they know my soul's contract for this life and I trust them to help me fulfill that contract. Easy as that.

I can identify with most of this.... but I don't consciously get to know mine. :wink:

deepsea
21-11-2010, 07:15 PM
Plenty of good replies there but still wondering how some people get to know their guides and others don't.

I know I have guides,been told so.
Even have a great picture of one but can honestly say,on asking,I have never received what I would call a 'realistic' answer.
Symbols,signs? Yes,I suppose I could say that but how do we work out what the signs mean?

Deepsea

SunSister
21-11-2010, 08:26 PM
still wondering how some people get to know their guides and others don't.

I don't really know. I suppose I know the guide who's been with me from birth onward because he was a blood brother of mine. My Mum miscarried the child that came before me.. that child was him.. :smile: I've always been attuned to his presence. My earliest memory of this life is of his presence, so I have never had to become aware of it. Don't know why some people meet their guides so early, like I did, or later on in life or not at all.

Symbols,signs? Yes,I suppose I could say that but how do we work out what the signs mean?

Trial and error. My guides and I developed a series of symbols, signs and markings over the past seven-something years. These range from number sequences to religious symbols to ancient markings like runes to full-on drawings. Sometimes I receive them through automatic writing. At other times, my soulkin receive these messages and pass them on to me. And at yet again other times, I run into blatantly obvious messages that can be a song on the radio or a number sequence on a clock. The method isn't foolproof and I'm sometimes left not knowing what they want to say, but it's something that I've learned to decipher over time. Made my fair share of mistakes, too.

My advice when it comes to working out what signs might mean? Numerology books. Dictionaries of symbolism. Knowledge of writings like runic script and ogham. Dream dictionaries. Tarot card symbolisms. Anything that deals with hidden messages or deeper layers of meaning to a seemingly obvious sign. :smile: It does help, somewhat.

Skye
21-11-2010, 08:31 PM
Meditation is the easiest way to communicate and build a working relationship with your spiritual team, be they a specific teaching guide for mediumship development, and/or helpers, as well as your loved ones and friends who do continue to have an interest in your life.

LightFilledHeart
21-11-2010, 08:55 PM
I alternately refer to my guides as my "cosmic team" and my "friends on high". They always respond in some fashion when I ask for guidance or assistance, and they can use any number of ways to do so. The possibilities are endless! I have sensed the presence of these loving beings throughout my life. Some call them angels, others guides, but it matters not how we label them. They come and go in one's life as needed (for example at a very difficult time when you are dealing with specific issues, you might pull in a guide who stays only for the duration of that event), but I believe there is one that is with you always, from the time souls were first cast and you first took expression as an individualized aspect of the god-head or Divine Oneness. I'm very grateful for the presence of these loving elevated souls. They have rendered phenomenal teachings and supported me through the worst of all possible times. To them I express my deep and profound gratitude!

Enya
21-11-2010, 09:24 PM
I think of my 'guides' as my spirit friends or mentors. Just as in physical life, we encounter many teachers in various forms, so our spirit mentors make their presence known if/when required. Some people prefer a close working relationship, while others go it alone, knowing there is unconditional support and guidance there if required. Others work on different aspects of their own spirituallity, which may require them never or rarely to have contact with their spirit team.

I have been shown some of the ways we all work together and have lost count of the number of teachers, students and interested spirit individuals (and group energies) who have introduced themselves during my short time working spiritually. I know I have various teams, with specialists attached and what seems to be a management group to keep it all balanced, lol. I regard myself as no one special, simply the one who was chosen to come to Earth this time around. What I learn, they learn. It's a mutual sharing. :smile:

deepsea
21-11-2010, 09:44 PM
Meditation is the easiest way to communicate and build a working relationship with your spiritual team, be they a specific teaching guide for mediumship development, and/or helpers, as well as your loved ones and friends who do continue to have an interest in your life.

The guide I was given recently was a member of my family,going back quite a long way.
He looked so much like my dad.
Deepsea

Skye
21-11-2010, 10:19 PM
The guide I was given recently was a member of my family,going back quite a long way.
He looked so much like my dad.
Deepsea


How nice that must have been for you. I do believe family members often guide us as much as they are allowed to, just like they did when they lived on the earth plane. This imo proves that physical death does not instantly change us, as well as showing that they are aware of what is going on in our lives.

mac
22-11-2010, 08:07 AM
Do they guide or simply try to help us? I find it inappropriate to use the same word 'guide' when we refer to (for example) friends or loved ones in spirit, as we do when we speak of Silver Birch.

There is no reason that the former are necessarily able to give us reliable guidance, even in personal matters.

By contrast, Silver Birch was someone who gave universal guidance.

Would we call a regular teacher 'professor'? Of course not because there is a clear difference between the two in levels of attainment and, by implication, ability.

Why, then, do we stubbornly use 'guide' when we can readily see similarly distinguishable differences?

deepsea
22-11-2010, 09:03 AM
Do they guide or simply try to help us? I find it inappropriate to use the same word 'guide' when we refer to (for example) friends or loved ones in spirit, as we do when we speak of Silver Birch.

There is no reason that the former are necessarily able to give us reliable guidance, even in personal matters.

By contrast, Silver Birch was someone who gave universal guidance.

Would we call a regular teacher 'professor'? Of course not because there is a clear difference between the two in levels of attainment and, by implication, ability.

Why, then, do we stubbornly use 'guide' when we can readily see similarly distinguishable differences?

'Guiding' I would interpret as advising. That is not actual help.
To 'help someone' has a different interpretation on it.
:smile:
J.

Skye
22-11-2010, 10:21 AM
Do they guide or simply try to help us? I find it inappropriate to use the same word 'guide' when we refer to (for example) friends or loved ones in spirit, as we do when we speak of Silver Birch.

There is no reason that the former are necessarily able to give us reliable guidance, even in personal matters.

By contrast, Silver Birch was someone who gave universal guidance.

Would we call a regular teacher 'professor'? Of course not because there is a clear difference between the two in levels of attainment and, by implication, ability.

Why, then, do we stubbornly use 'guide' when we can readily see similarly distinguishable differences?

I do agree the word 'guide' is overly used but it can apply to different circumstances, although knowing that there is a difference is what I feel is important.

I personally would never expect any family member or friend to 'guide' me on my spiritual pathway because I know they do not have the knowledge or experience necessary to perform this task. But I do know they have the ability to 'guide' me in the right direction or 'help me' to find the answers for myself, just as they did when they lived here. This doesn't imply they solve any of my challenges, that is my responsibility for I have to still work through issues that come into my life otherwise there is no point in me being here.

Silver Birch said, 'Only a medium has a spirit guide'. This does not imply superiority between people whatsoever. It's about those who work at developing their mediumship and those who choose not to, it simply means the latter has no need for a spirit guide, as they are not intending to develop mediumship. You can guarantee some people will disagree with this comment, but I have no doubt Silver Birch has far more knowledge than any one person here, so I am inclined to believe his words above others.

Iskandar
23-11-2010, 09:55 AM
any tips on how to get in touch with my guide?

What I've gathered is important, is meditation.

Westleigh
29-11-2010, 10:24 PM
I agree that the terminology around this subject is massively confusing. People tend to use terms like guides and guardian angels interchangeably for many different kinds of entities.

Friends and family members who have passed over who come to us in spirit are just that - friends and family members, people who love us and want to offer us comfort and support. They aren't acting as guides, because they don't have the necessary experience or qualification to do it - to call them so is to mix up our friends and our teachers, like expecting the kid who sat next to you in high school to suddenly be qualified to teach a class. Angels are a completely different kettle of fish again, and are much further advanced entities even than guides. I like to think of them as the spiritual security officials - they watch over us, help to heal us and keep us safe, but they aren't involved in all the little events of our lives as guides are. :)

I am one of those fortunate enough to be able to speak with my guides, though it took a lot of practice to be able to do so. Iskandar, while meditating, ask your guide to come beside you (they will usually be on your left) and see if you can feel his/her energy. You can also ask them to try sending messages or images to you and practice receiving them. It's definitely a skill which can be learned.

Love,
W.

mac
30-11-2010, 11:24 AM
any tips on how to get in touch with my guide?

What I've gathered is important, is meditation.

The meditation is to get yourself in a receptive mode. You may be "in touch" with your guide much of the time - just not in a way you'd be thinking of. :wink:

Skye
30-11-2010, 01:56 PM
any tips on how to get in touch with my guide?

What I've gathered is important, is meditation.

Hi Iskandar,

When we don't have the power to maintain a 2 way link, communication with spirit will not occur or if it does, what we receive will likely be ragged. If you wish to communicate with those in the spirit world then yes, meditation is important. To listen, our own thoughts have to be infrequent or as quiet as possible, otherwise we can mistake our thoughts for theirs and receive what we want to hear, see or feel.

Once we have achieved a state of meditation, we have to attune our thoughts to reach their level, likewise they do the same to meet ours. This is could be said as expanding our awareness towards the spirit world.

Rah nam
30-11-2010, 07:26 PM
A question.

Why do we need guides in our earthly lives?
What exactly do they do to help us?

As far as I know,reading about reincarnation,we are given a certain life to live.
We live that life,making our own decisions and take the fallout if we make the wrong decision.

Now where do guides come in to assist us,if we make a wrong choice and take a wrong turning in that road?
Can they put us back on the straight and narrow or are we to sort our mistakes out?

In other words,are guides really needed?

Deapsea

Do you belief you make plans on what you want to achieve in the up coming life?
Your No 1 (guide) will try to keep you on your plan.
Of cause they can not interfer, they can however bring up hurdles for you, if this is in line with the agreements. On the other hand the soul can do this much more effective if it feel it is needed, and doesn't need spirits OK.

Rah nam
30-11-2010, 07:28 PM
A lot of people tend to rely on others for their spiritual development whether its with guides or other folks/beings regardless of the being's place (astral or physical)
That is OK, sooner or later they will find out it does not work this way.

mac
30-11-2010, 07:48 PM
Do you belief you make plans on what you want to achieve in the up coming life?
Your No 1 (guide) will try to keep you on your plan.
Of cause they can not interfer, they can however bring up hurdles for you, if this is in line with the agreements. On the other hand the soul can do this much more effective if it feel it is needed, and doesn't need spirits OK.
There is much supposition as to what might be the actual involvement of one's primary guide.

What applies to one individual may not apply in a similar way to another. It may be that a guide acts for their charge in such a way as to improve the likely outcome of an action or omission which is in line with pre-agreed values.

But not all lives will have that degree of pre-arrangement or pre-agreement.

deepsea
30-11-2010, 07:52 PM
Do you belief you make plans on what you want to achieve in the up coming life?
Your No 1 (guide) will try to keep you on your plan.
Of cause they can not interfer, they can however bring up hurdles for you, if this is in line with the agreements. On the other hand the soul can do this much more effective if it feel it is needed, and doesn't need spirits OK.

Um,you may be right there,Detlef.
I could certainly agree with that,concerning one incident in my life.
I asked for help at that time,was given it for a certain period,then bang,all my wishes and dreams went down the (proverbial) plughole!
So why was I given help to reach a certain point to have my hopes dashed at the end?
Deepsea

Rah nam
01-12-2010, 05:33 AM
There is much supposition as to what might be the actual involvement of one's primary guide.

What applies to one individual may not apply in a similar way to another. It may be that a guide acts for their charge in such a way as to improve the likely outcome of an action or omission which is in line with pre-agreed values.

But not all lives will have that degree of pre-arrangement or pre-agreement.

This is quite correct.

We need to understand, spirit can enter the next life from the non- physical- earth realm, or from the astral realm.
Many more will come from the non-physical earth realm, and with it the last life has never been down loaded, and dealt with. Those in the early incarnation cycle almost never enter the astral between incarnations.

Serenity Bear
03-12-2010, 07:31 PM
For me my guides stretch me, teach me, make me a better person, nudge me to the places and people I need in my life and help me cope when I cant. They make me better at my work and every part of my life.

I seem to get a team for a while and then evolve into another. My current guide team are totally awesome people, with mentors, those who make me laugh, really good friendship, oh and lots and lots more. I hope I have many many years with these wonderous people.

Westleigh
19-12-2010, 07:07 PM
To answer the initial question about why we need guides, the analogy mine gave me is that a plant can grow wild on its own, or it can be cultivated by a loving gardener. The latter plant is likely to be much more healthy and beautiful, and the relationship brings great joy to both. :smile:

Some people's life experiences involve working with their guides and some do not. We do have a huge spiritual "team" working with us and for us of which our guides are really just the forward representatives. My guides came to me "at the right time" and that was after many years of loneliness and struggle in my life. Once I had waded my way, very slowly and with great difficulty, through my emotional issues by myself, they turned up and were all "OK, well done, we're going to help you from here on." There were certain things I had to learn on my own and now there are certain things I now need to work on with my guides. Depending on the intentions with which we arrived in this life, we may need to do things with a limited amount of guidance from them.

The work of a guide is going to vary massively from person to person depending on their needs, so there's really no way to say "this is what a guide does". The personalities of guides and preferred methods of working really vary as well and they all have their own specialities. There seem to be many different kinds of relationships with guides, too (from teacher-student type relationships to informal best-friend type relationships - I like to have a cuddle-pile with mine! :hug2:).

Iskandar
19-12-2010, 08:25 PM
Thanks for answering my question guys.

BlueOrchid
08-03-2011, 06:55 PM
I think as others have said that guides are there to help you make the right choices in life although I guess ultimately it's upto us. Guides can just point us in the right direction.

earthwanderess
19-03-2011, 01:28 PM
I found my guides through Shamanic Journeying. I use a drum to journey. They help me with everything in my life.

I believe a lot of people actually communicate with guides and dismiss it. I believe they do so because their ego gets in the way.

Sandra Ingerman has a beginner's guidebook and cd if you are interested, it is very easy to learn.

Sozerius
19-03-2011, 03:10 PM
Basically- a guide is someone who has already ascended and the 'truth' has been revealed to them. They have assignments that they are given with which to guide a person, or multiple persons. They can help give people direction in a very uncertain world, I find that they are invaluable. However, you don't *have* to have one, if you do not want to be guided, then it is highly unlikely that a guide is going to stick around and waste his/her time when someone else could be benefitting from the guidance.