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CharleneMarie2712
18-11-2013, 03:56 AM
For about a year now when I am meditating I have been hearing voices, mens voices in a different language, it sounds native american, possibly navajo? Sometimes I hear a crowd of 5-10 men speaking to eachother, and other times I hear one man speaking to me diectly. But I do not understand them at all, I went on youtube listened to a bunch of tribes languages and navajo sounded the closest. But I tried to sound it out to a few close friends who speak the language and they couldnt figure out what it means, so I might not be saying it correctly. The most recurring word or phrase I hear is sounded out like; "ah-dee-yin-go" or something like that. Can anybody translate that? Oh and just recently I found out from my family that I am Cherokee, navajo, and chippewa.

Thunder Bow
18-11-2013, 03:47 PM
Ya'at'eeh, I speak Navajo (Dine'bizaad). What you write there sounds more oriental.

Medicine_Dog
18-11-2013, 04:33 PM
It would be difficult to translate a phonetic spelling, however based on the syllabary it could be Tsalagi(Cherokee:wink:). Take the name used when referencing themselves: Aniyunwiya (also spelled Aniyvwiya, Ahniyvwiya, Aniyuwiya, or Yunwiya.) it means the "principle people", when rendered phonetically: Ahh-nee-uun-wee-yaa - emphasis added :D

Rather than translating the words, one might try to translate the emotions put "into" the words to arrive at a meaning. :smile:

CharleneMarie2712
22-11-2013, 09:38 AM
It defintely didnt sound oriental. But Im probably not even hearing it correctly. My friends try to teach me how to even just say I love you in navajo and I still cant hear or say it correctly. LOL I just wish I knew what he was saying ? What does it mean!!?? Lol

Seekerofsolace
22-11-2013, 12:24 PM
When you are going into a trance state it is common to hear voices. They may be unintelligible. It is your "monkey mind". Do not focus on the voices, rather let them go. What is important is in the calmness and stillness of your mind.

CharleneMarie2712
23-11-2013, 06:07 AM
I Have never thought of it that way!

pgrundy
23-11-2013, 04:25 PM
My son, daughter, and I have all had this sort of experience, but not with native languages. I am glad you posted this as I don't see it much.

The weirdest one I had was a chant:

Om deva shanti, shanti deva shanti, shanti shanti shanti..

Over and over, with the om in the background throughout and the rest of the words very rapid and monotone. I knew right away that it was Hindu but it took me about a year to find the chant. It is an actual chant. I use it sometimes.

Once though, someone told me an Indian man was following me around, a spirit man. I was startled by this because I have often seen such a person in my minds eye while walking the woods and prairies here, and I had never told anyone that because, you know, it sounds really strange.

Anyhow, after that, I decided to address this man in my mind. I got very quiet and asked his name, and I got che che qua.

I went looking for that and in the language of the Indian people from the area where I live it means 'green onion' but not exactly--it's a certain kind of onion that grows wild along the streams and rivers here.

Maybe he was telling me I stink. I don't know.

But he still hangs around sometimes. I can tell when it's him because he thinks in ways that are not natural to me, but are becoming more natural.

I know that probably sounds nuts, but there you have it.

It happens.

CharleneMarie2712
01-12-2013, 08:35 AM
I wonder if the indian man has any connection to you? Maybe he is some sort of guide? Especially if you are naturally easing your mind to understand his unique thoughts.
Its not nuts at all. I had miscarried about a two years ago, and now I occasionally have conversations with my baby in my mind when I meditate. I can see his face, and I can see through to his thoughts, if that makes any sense? He is an amazing child. I beleive he has been guiding me the past few years, even before I was pregnant. I can feel him with me when I am in sticky situations. Now thats weird:) lol

WmBuzz71
01-12-2013, 01:35 PM
I just like to point out something. After I had an awakening, I was introduced to my spirit guides. I am Native myself, but I was surprised that I had a celtic, female spirit guide, representing Mother Earths female energies. I also found that on my right there was an Italian, who was representing my higher consciousness, a universal one, where it's all about the Family.

While my female spirit guide is all about duality, she is what I am told half Japanese. So part of her represents spirituality in the East of Asia, and the west of Europe. While my male spiritual guide is that of the consciousness, who is also about duality, representing black and white. When I had a vision of him he was a big black skinned guy, and thought that was odd, a black Italian. I think it has to do something from the past where blacks where part of the roman culture. So the Male also represent my lower consciousness that is the dark and my higher one in the light.

So on the west I have my Female spirit guide, who represent the colors of white and yellow.

On the East, I have my male guide, who represents white and black.

and me, who is representing the color red, and completes the four colors.

Oh! I almost forgot about North and South. This is where Mary Magdalen and Jesus comes in. So Jesus suppose to represent North, but he is being held in the darkness because of the sins of our souls, he is at the bottom of the barrel, where his light shines. To get to his light we must follow what he stands for, and let Mary lead us to into the darkness of the soul, to reunite the fire within, to the of our true being.

The spirit is in the air that feeds the fire, the fire represents the energy of the spirit, at the Earth's core. So Mary to me represents the color red, and is one half of the holy spirit, and she represents south meaning she is half black also. While Jesus represents the male side of the holy spirit, the holy part of Mother earth's consciousness, that is powered by the light. Until he is set free he will be half black, and half white.

Sorry if i got a little off track, just saying that we are represented, a little bit of everything, when it comes to creation of ones soul.

IsleWalker
01-12-2013, 02:38 PM
WmBuzz71-

You point up some important things. I was just thinking about this the other day.

In order for whole civilizations to be wiped out, dishonored--as Native Americans were in the US--I think we all have had lives as them and as the "abusers". I think that's the natural order of things--that we understand both sides of many experiences. Some probably don't require incarnation to experience, but some do. So, yes, we may all have been many things.

As I was waking one morning I had this image of a stone piece like a chess piece that had two faces on it, back-to-back. One was female, the other male.

As I woke, the piece rotated and I got the name "Liam".

I eventually understood this to mean it was a representation of my own masculine/feminine side. I've been waiting to have a dream or vision of the Liam side sometime. I guess I'm making the assumption there was an incarnation as this entity. Maybe that's not a valid assumption though.

Lora

Thunder Bow
01-12-2013, 04:01 PM
I can almost see the word "Lion" in it.

IsleWalker
01-12-2013, 04:28 PM
I can almost see the word "Lion" in it.

Very interesting, Thunder Bow. I have massive connections to big cats. I am a Leo (the Lion). I have many personality traits in common with them--both the aggressive and the introverted parts.

I have had connections to cats that, I feel, were incarnations of guides who were with me when I needed them. I even feel that one represents a personality that I have been with as a pair for many lives. [I've been hesitant to admit these things because it really does come across like Crazy Cat Lady! So be it. :icon_eek: ]

I even had an experience that was conscious OBE. I was working with a line of people who had recently passed, teaching them "the power of the cat". (Paul Newman was there. I knew his acting and something about him but hadn't been a crazy fan. I feel now I've "met" him!)

In the "dream" the people took off into the air on skateboard-looking things. It sounds very trite. I think it was a difficult thing to create a symbol for, so I don't really know what "the power of the cat" might be, what skill it might represent. But it's stuck with me. It made me realize that perhaps I was "doing things" in the spirit world other than living in this physical one.

Again--very interesting that you saw that. I just felt that Liam would be William--perhaps a Scottish or Irish connection. But the pair seem to work--Lor & Liam.

Lora

IsleWalker
01-12-2013, 04:32 PM
I can almost see the word "Lion" in it.

Very interesting, Thunder Bow. I have massive connections to big cats. I am a Leo (the Lion). I have many personality traits in common with them.

I have had connections to cats that, I feel, were incarnations of guides who were with me when I needed them. I even feel that one represents a personality that I have been with as a pair for many lives. [I've been hesitant to admit these things because it really does come across like Crazy Cat Lady! So be it. :icon_eek: ]

I even had an experience that was conscious OBE. I was working with a line of people who had recently passed, teaching the "the power of the cat". (Paul Newman was there. I knew his acting and something about him but hadn't been a crazy fan. I feel now I've "met" him. It also seems to square with him being someone who liked adrenaline-thril kinds of activities--like Indy car and Le Mans car racing.)

In the "dream" the people took off into the air on skateboard-looking things. It sounds very trite. I think it was a difficult thing to translate into a symbol I would understand, so I don't really know what "the power of the cat" might be, what skill it might represent. But it's stuck with me. It made me realize that perhaps I was "doing things" in the spirit world other than living in this physical one.

Again--very interesting that you saw that. I just felt that Liam would be William--perhaps a Scottish or Irish connection. But the pair seem to work--Lora & Liam.

Lora

IsleWalker
01-12-2013, 04:33 PM
I can almost see the word "Lion" in it.

Very interesting, Thunder Bow. I have massive connections to big cats. I am a Leo (the Lion). I have many personality traits in common with them--both the aggressive and the introverted parts.

I have had connections to cats that, I feel, were incarnations of guides who were with me when I needed them. I even feel that one represents a personality that I have been with as a pair for many lives. [I've been hesitant to admit these things because it really does come across like Crazy Cat Lady! So be it. :icon_eek: ]

I even had an experience that was conscious OBE. I was working with a line of people who had recently passed, teaching them "the power of the cat". (Paul Newman was there. I knew his acting and something about him but hadn't been a crazy fan. I feel now I've "met" him. It also seems to square with him being someone who liked adrenaline-thrill kinds of activities--like Indy car and Le Mans car racing.)

In the "dream" the people took off into the air on skateboard-looking things. It sounds very trite. I think it was a difficult thing to translate into a symbol I would understand, so I don't really know what "the power of the cat" might be, what skill it might represent. But it's stuck with me. It made me realize that perhaps I was "doing things" in the spirit world other than living in this physical one.

Again--very interesting that you saw that. I just felt that Liam would be William--perhaps a Scottish or Irish connection. But the pair seem to work--Lor & Liam.

Lora

pgrundy
02-12-2013, 09:50 PM
I just like to point out something. After I had an awakening, I was introduced to my spirit guides. I am Native myself, but I was surprised that I had a celtic, female spirit guide, representing Mother Earths female energies. I also found that on my right there was an Italian, who was representing my higher consciousness, a universal one, where it's all about the Family.

While my female spirit guide is all about duality, she is what I am told half Japanese. So part of her represents spirituality in the East of Asia, and the west of Europe. While my male spiritual guide is that of the consciousness, who is also about duality, representing black and white. When I had a vision of him he was a big black skinned guy, and thought that was odd, a black Italian. I think it has to do something from the past where blacks where part of the roman culture. So the Male also represent my lower consciousness that is the dark and my higher one in the light.

So on the west I have my Female spirit guide, who represent the colors of white and yellow.

On the East, I have my male guide, who represents white and black.

and me, who is representing the color red, and completes the four colors.

Oh! I almost forgot about North and South. This is where Mary Magdalen and Jesus comes in. So Jesus suppose to represent North, but he is being held in the darkness because of the sins of our souls, he is at the bottom of the barrel, where his light shines. To get to his light we must follow what he stands for, and let Mary lead us to into the darkness of the soul, to reunite the fire within, to the of our true being.

The spirit is in the air that feeds the fire, the fire represents the energy of the spirit, at the Earth's core. So Mary to me represents the color red, and is one half of the holy spirit, and she represents south meaning she is half black also. While Jesus represents the male side of the holy spirit, the holy part of Mother earth's consciousness, that is powered by the light. Until he is set free he will be half black, and half white.

Sorry if i got a little off track, just saying that we are represented, a little bit of everything, when it comes to creation of ones soul.

This was very helpful to me, thank you for sharing it. I often feel I must be crazy with these spirits, and yet they seem to affect my life positively. What you described helped enormously. I am not a native person, I am of Welsh ancestry, my ancestors were metal workers. But the way you put this makes sense and I am going to pursue it because I think it will help me understand what is happening.

Again, thank you very much,

pgrundy
02-12-2013, 09:54 PM
I wonder if the indian man has any connection to you? Maybe he is some sort of guide? Especially if you are naturally easing your mind to understand his unique thoughts.
Its not nuts at all. I had miscarried about a two years ago, and now I occasionally have conversations with my baby in my mind when I meditate. I can see his face, and I can see through to his thoughts, if that makes any sense? He is an amazing child. I beleive he has been guiding me the past few years, even before I was pregnant. I can feel him with me when I am in sticky situations. Now thats weird:) lol

Charlene, I think maybe he is some sort of guide. I feel bad for him to be charged with following my batty self around all the time though.

Your sharing about talking with your miscarried child really struck me. When I was in my 30s I found myself pregnant right after giving birth. I was so upset, but then finally I accepted it and got positive about it.

One night I dreamed of my baby. He was a boy and he said he wasn't right, he wouldn't be able to come. I could see that something had happened to him physically, he had not grown right or something, but he was a wonderful spirit.

Within days I miscarried. Your post made me remember that.

All the best to you. Miscarriage is harder than many people realize.

Native spirit
03-12-2013, 09:09 AM
:smile: When in meditation its possible to hear different lamguages because you are making your vibration higher,your vibration goes up theres come down. i am a celt but i have also got Native blood in me my guides have always been Native,the only exception was my healing guide he was a very old welsh doctor,he stayed for a while them my native guides took over.it is normal to have have guides of every denomination or culture they all speak their own language as well as english. the celtic nation and the Native nation are very similar. they both have clans but go back far enough and you will find many similarities,

Namaste

Raven Poet
27-12-2013, 01:54 AM
It defintely didnt sound oriental. But Im probably not even hearing it correctly. My friends try to teach me how to even just say I love you in navajo and I still cant hear or say it correctly. LOL I just wish I knew what he was saying ? What does it mean!!?? Lol
Hi, CharleneMarie. Like another friend said here, if we are not fluent in the language of our ancestors, we can still understand on a spiritual level, not a cerebral one.

At one of the Sundance ceremonies I attended, an Old Man spoke in ancient Ojibwe language (one of the Plains nations up here in central Canada/northern US). Although I did not understand with my brain, I still felt something on a cellular level - in fact, I even found myself nodding. then I stopped, feeling a little embarrassed that others would think I understood him. But I did - in my heart, I heard his message about having unconditional love and compassion for all beings. Later, the Old Man's speech was paraphrased by the Sun Dance chief, and it turned out I did understand parts of his message.

Approach with a calm still mind and an open, humble heart, and you will understand.

Raven Poet
27-12-2013, 01:56 AM
I wonder if the indian man has any connection to you? Maybe he is some sort of guide? Especially if you are naturally easing your mind to understand his unique thoughts.
Its not nuts at all. I had miscarried about a two years ago, and now I occasionally have conversations with my baby in my mind when I meditate. I can see his face, and I can see through to his thoughts, if that makes any sense? He is an amazing child. I beleive he has been guiding me the past few years, even before I was pregnant. I can feel him with me when I am in sticky situations. Now thats weird:) lol
Aw, CharleneMarie - that is beautiful! What a blessing - to have the spirit who was planning on incarnating as your child stay with you as a guide! I've not been able to communicate with the child I miscarried seventeen years ago - and I see that as what was spiritually intended. But I think that is SO wonderful you still have a connection - not weird at all!