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hibrady
19-10-2013, 08:36 AM
Has anybody ever heard of a living enlightened teacher??? I've heard of people like David Hawkins, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramana Maharshi and Ramesh S. Balsekar but I don't know any that are alive. Does anyone know of one who is? I'd love any input on this!

A human Being
19-10-2013, 09:32 AM
If I understand the term 'enlightened teacher' correctly, I know of quite a few - Adyashanti (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Dw61Ud_Xk), Gangaji (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKEm5_xzaJE), Eckhart Tolle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M00VLswZdyc) to name three. If you have the time, it's definitely worth giving the videos I've linked a listen.

WmBuzz71
19-10-2013, 11:58 AM
From my perspective the Enlighten ones are the bearers of light, that are able to manifest the knowledge they have through love. We all can meditate to the North and receive a higher understanding, but can we meditate to the South, where the underworld lies, and retrieve the light that was once theirs.

Very few people in my opinion has the ability to purify the soul. The ones that do are probably in the slums doing Gods works trying to enlighten the ones that are living in the dark, and not trying to enlighten the world.

So the answer is no, we need to look from within to find that enlightened teacher.

Thunder Bow
19-10-2013, 04:01 PM
There is an "Enlightened Teacher" that you can find right where you live. All you have to do is listen to this Teacher and Learn. Also this Teacher is Linked here in this Forum. To find this Teacher, all you have to do is click on Your Own Name here. YOU are that Teacher!

Dream Librarian
21-10-2013, 01:20 PM
The first step to enlightenment is to let go of the idea that there exist such a thing as enlightenment.

CSEe
21-10-2013, 10:05 PM
Has anybody ever heard of a living enlightened teacher??? I've heard of people like David Hawkins, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramana Maharshi and Ramesh S. Balsekar but I don't know any that are alive. Does anyone know of one who is? I'd love any input on this!
Perhaps if one "enlighterned" , he will never have any desire of anything not even speak ...........

Dream Librarian
22-10-2013, 12:20 PM
Perhaps if one "enlighterned" , he will never have any desire of anything not even speak ...........

Or perhaps it is the other way around depending on ones understanding of enlightenment. Who said Mercury was in retrograde :brushteeth: don't listen to me... or do?

Greenslade
22-10-2013, 12:42 PM
There is an "Enlightened Teacher" that you can find right where you live. All you have to do is listen to this Teacher and Learn. Also this Teacher is Linked here in this Forum. To find this Teacher, all you have to do is click on Your Own Name here. YOU are that Teacher!
The first step to enlightenment is to let go of the idea that there exist such a thing as enlightenment.
So, it seems Spirituality hasn't thrown common sense out of the window after all.

peteyzen
22-10-2013, 01:56 PM
your best bet is to try an avatar, the only one known living on earth at the moment, is mother meera.

CSEe
22-10-2013, 10:12 PM
Or perhaps it is the other way around depending on ones understanding of enlightenment. Who said Mercury was in retrograde :brushteeth: don't listen to me... or do?

In my current understanding of Buddhism , enlighternment is a condition closer to emptiness , a condition resulted from acceptance of own emotions by realization not a condition full of knowledge , a condition almost freedom of attachment of emotions or knowledge not a condition with emotions and full of knowledge ...........
I hope to debate with you for my better understanding ,
Thks
CSEe

CSEe
22-10-2013, 10:22 PM
The first step to enlightenment is to let go of the idea that there exist such a thing as enlightenment.
Perhaps if we created an intention to "let go" or to have belief or faith , we are just creating more emotions leading to more burden on attachment on such emotions and this will place us in a condition of more emotions . With more emotions will lead to more suffering .
In my current understanding , Buddhism is not something we know or something we seek to know , or something we will know or something we should or must know....Buddhism is realization of own emotions , own existence , the cause of own existence and leading to the end of own existence .....so as we travel in this natural path , without creating emotions to against it , all our emotions such as desire , love , greed , ego etc will decreased into emptiness back into nothingness - The Buddha .........thats my current understanding of Buddhism and I hope to debate with anyone especially Master of Buddhism studies for my learning lesson .....
Thks
CSEe

n2mec
23-10-2013, 02:58 PM
For me, you are your own spiritual teacher. All others you will either agree or disagree with.

However, if you seek a living guru or spiritual master start locally in your area and fan out from there.

Just remember the more you seek the lesser gets better.

John32241
23-10-2013, 03:11 PM
Hi,

In my view, the most enlightened masters all taught that the best learning/remembering comes from within the self.

Now I know that the logical brain can not accept that kind of guidance. The brain can not see the divine within us, but the heart can.

My thoughts on this are that if you listen to what women speak about, I mean really listen, then you will find your deepest inner wisdom by relating to the women.

Now if I said that I was an awakened Incarnated Ascended Master, who would believe such a thing. Not a person using their logical brain instead of their intuition.

In summary, those who look outside them self for the greatest wisdom are forever lost.

John

Morpheus
23-10-2013, 04:20 PM
Hi,

In my view, the most enlightened masters all taught that the best learning/remembering comes from within the self.

Now I know that the logical brain can not accept that kind of guidance. The brain can not see the divine within us, but the heart can.

My thoughts on this are that if you listen to what women speak about, I mean really listen, then you will find your deepest inner wisdom by relating to the women.

Now if I said that I was an awakened Incarnated Ascended Master, who would believe such a thing. Not a person using their logical brain instead of their intuition.

In summary, those who look outside them self for the greatest wisdom are forever lost.

John

However, your post is made without any corresponding and supportive links and information. isn't it. Other than your personal website?
Looking to build up a following?

Seems a bit Egoic of you. Doesn't it?

What is really "Spiritual"? What is merely popular, "junk food"? Tasty on the tongue, but not really healthy?

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"Now abide these three, faith, hope, and love. but the greatest is Love."
- St Paul, as a consequence of his NDE.

1 Corinthians 13.

www.nderf.org (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.nderf.org)

"They who are wise shall shine like the lights in the firmament, and they who lead many to righteousness, as the stars for ever and ever."
Daniel 12:3


We, as all things in "the world" are borne of starlight.

" Is there anything else you would like to add concerning the experience?

after the experience I had several dreams about the hands pushing me towards a crucifix or other dimensions…. but they were just dreams, I was aware of that when I woke up, the feeling of the hands was the same though, and they were the same hands. I have the possibility of connecting with another dimension, even if I don't know how handle it. "

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Belle
23-10-2013, 04:56 PM
Hi,

In my view, the most enlightened masters all taught that the best learning/remembering comes from within the self.

Now I know that the logical brain can not accept that kind of guidance. The brain can not see the divine within us, but the heart can.

My thoughts on this are that if you listen to what women speak about, I mean really listen, then you will find your deepest inner wisdom by relating to the women.

Now if I said that I was an awakened Incarnated Ascended Master, who would believe such a thing. Not a person using their logical brain instead of their intuition.

In summary, those who look outside them self for the greatest wisdom are forever lost.

John

That's so it!

Your heart will leap when you hear a nugget of truth anywhere. We have the most amazing capacity to filter out nonsense that we don't want or need and yet when we get something that truly serves us - it will hit us.

Also our teachers are found in the most unlikely of places. Be it on the bus, the supermarket, or at work. People point the way to us all the time.

And - as John says - paraphrasing. The more we let go of knowing, the more we understand and then when we fully let go, everything makes sense.

That's zen for sure.

Declan L
25-10-2013, 10:55 PM
Yes i do, he is called Lincoln Gergar, he uploads videos onto youtube which i follow. Type in "channel higher self" to go to his channel.

peteyzen
10-12-2013, 12:00 PM
See the problem with following `your inner voice` is the inner voice is shaded by the ego. There is no clear line of communication. Maybe one in millions is advanced enough (done enough work in previous lives) and determined enough to make it alone. If you don`t believe me ask yourself this; how many buddha`s are there really? How many people really have that inner resolve to do it alone? The answer is almost none.
Most of us need a point of reference, a source of information and a system to follow. It may not be the perfect system but I now believe that doesnt matter, what matters is that we try, we put effort in and we move foirward, because truth is most of us are so far away from the goal that there are many many lives yet before we complete our practice here on earth. The problem with following our `hearts` is that we get mixed messages and generally end up confused or blindly doing what is just easy for us. The ego is really good at directing us in the wrong direction when we are our own point of reference.

Gem
10-12-2013, 12:09 PM
Has anybody ever heard of a living enlightened teacher??? I've heard of people like David Hawkins, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramana Maharshi and Ramesh S. Balsekar but I don't know any that are alive. Does anyone know of one who is? I'd love any input on this!

There are many that Tell this or that, and they are easy to find, but a good listener is a bit more discrete and you have to notice that.

Ascension
10-12-2013, 12:45 PM
The most effective one's , are not know from the public .

grannymary
10-12-2013, 01:37 PM
See the problem with following `your inner voice` is the inner voice is shaded by the ego. There is no clear line of communication. Maybe one in millions is advanced enough (done enough work in previous lives) and determined enough to make it alone. If you don`t believe me ask yourself this; how many buddha`s are there really? How many people really have that inner resolve to do it alone? The answer is almost none.
Most of us need a point of reference, a source of information and a system to follow. It may not be the perfect system but I now believe that doesnt matter, what matters is that we try, we put effort in and we move foirward, because truth is most of us are so far away from the goal that there are many many lives yet before we complete our practice here on earth. The problem with following our `hearts` is that we get mixed messages and generally end up confused or blindly doing what is just easy for us. The ego is really good at directing us in the wrong direction when we are our own point of reference.

A really good point you make. I recall however that most of the greatest teachers did have periods of solitude yet ultimately were not always going it alone that I can see in that those who surround them in need of wisdom and light were essential to their life. It seems the dedication and honor comes to be equalized. Identical from teacher to student and student to teacher.

I generally favor the teacher within as the most personal and trust this guide. It happens to lead a person to great spiritual scriptures, teachers who come into the world for a time past or present. Ego is often used as a tool of revelation. To know clarity we must first be confused. I think there comes a point though where working with others becomes essential on one hand to rope the ego and on the other to serve as a channel of blessing. Blessings urge sharing, and passing on.