ENERGY

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

'Energy' seems like such an inadequte word for the energy I get sometimes in my lucid dreams. Like last night , the kind of dream-lucid-energy I love the most: : kaleidoscopic, psyche-sonic-delic, orgasmic, electrified , liquidy love blasts that I can only weakly, vaguely describe . It started out where I was jumping up like Superman and flying off, through ceilings and walls - not crashing but more like melting into intense but fuzzy, fluffy, delicious energy - and flying away .

I hadn't had a dose like this for many months , and I wasn't prepared, and I would float down to the ground again, only to know I could do it again, which I did , many times. At one point I woke up, enough to find that my , multi-colored , blinking-light , Procyon "mind machine" was still busy at work , so I hadn't been asleep long. This is usually the period when these (most awesome) dreams happen, so I kind of chuckled and went back in for more.

Then it was more about flying around in energy , and watching the lucid-electric scenery below . It's also about letting go and being swept away by energy (what else ?) , and the intense rushes of .... deeply mysterious beauty beneath me had a profound effect . How do I describe it ? ....it's ENERGY , but not like any energy I'm used to . It's sort of like the rush you get from an elevator, or an amusement ride where you go weightless, but it's less of a physical thing that your body feels as separate , that comes and goes away. This starts at the adrenaline-rush level , and you merge with it as it grows stronger and richer , yet less edgey and harsh. It's beautifully
marshmallowey and atomic candyland all at once . THAT'S what I mean when I say 'energy ' , and I love it more than anything because it absorbs me and I dissolve into it :smile:

[Squatchit]

:blob3: That sounds bloody marvellous - I want some of that. :blob3:

My lucid dreams are nowt like that. Saying that, lucid dreaming is the best thing that's ever happened to me - I love them to bits. :redface:

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

:blob3: That sounds bloody marvellous - I want some of that. :blob3:

My lucid dreams are nowt like that. Saying that, lucid dreaming is the best thing that's ever happened to me - I love them to bits. :redface:

Lucid dreaming is what these developed from, over the years. A clarity and heightened sense of ....everything, that's what 'lucid' means to me mostly. Combined with the sense that you know you are not limited the way you are in regular life. i don't always have the clear distinction that I'm dreaming when these dreams happen; it's more of a sort of hyper-awareness, a 'superconsciousness' if you will.

With lucid dreaming , a long time ago, I'd do things like jump off buildings or cliffs because I knew I could, and I'd get that energy rush like you do in an elevator , but with dreaming it's like I said, smoother , and longer lasting .
These dreams also acquired an extremely vivid, colorful , and active imagery. 'Psychedelic' is not the best word, but things do get an electric , energetic (surprise, surprise) look . It really is like a hyper-reality , where everything is more real, more intense, and things have a life and (yep) energy they just don't normally. Not really hallucinatory, like with drugs, but
more lively and charged up in a super-natural way , like the difference between 2D black & white and 3D stereo. Take regular 3D stereo and ramp it up to hyperdimensional reality level, and that's exactly what it's like, plus ....energy , and motion :alien:

I'm not sure where this kind of thing fits in the spectrum of 'spiritual' experience but it's very much a taste of ....well.... realms of energy , not of physicality . But here I am , in a body , brain behaving in unusual ways ...
it's all overlapping inside us , it seems :D

[Squatchit]

I often step off buildings - just because I can. I've had a few dreams where it's been more abstract (and harder to describe)...but not many. I suppose I'm fairly new to lucid dreaming (only a few years) and have some way to go yet. I still get excited about it all. I'm such a kid.

Mind you, 10 years ago I began having OBEs which I thought were the best things since sliced bread - until a number of years later when I got bored of them. I never would have believed I'd get bored, of all things. Nowadays it's all about being lucid in the dreamworld - can't get enough of it - but maybe I'll get bored of that eventually and start having more of your kind of abstract psychedelic thingymajigs.

:color: :hippy2: :happy10: :icon_rr:

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

I often step off buildings - just because I can. I've had a few dreams where it's been more abstract (and harder to describe)...but not many. I suppose I'm fairly new to lucid dreaming (only a few years) and have some way to go yet. I still get excited about it all. I'm such a kid.

Mind you, 10 years ago I began having OBEs which I thought were the best things since sliced bread - until a number of years later when I got bored of them. I never would have believed I'd get bored, of all things. Nowadays it's all about being lucid in the dreamworld - can't get enough of it - but maybe I'll get bored of that eventually and start having more of your kind of abstract psychedelic thingymajigs.

:color: :hippy2: :happy10: :icon_rr:

I don't have ones like that very often ; this was the coolest one in about a year . The OBE thing is mixed in with these dreams, but it's like I still usually have a dream/energy body that I'm aware of. Sometimes it gets all melty and
faded into energy . Kinda astral, kinda OBE, always lucid and energetic . I don't do much 'normal' lucid dreaming either, but I'll tell ya what, this kind of dream, however infrequently they come, blow my little mind and make up for
the infrequency with their intensity :smile:

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

BTW, I am fairly interested in anyone else's experience with dreams , a little or a lot like this . I know I'm not alone in this . :smile:

[CrystalSong]

Nope, you're not alone!

Some of my meditations have been pretty intense too. Once when in the Ashkaic Records and re-viewing one of the cataclysmic early events in Earth history which re-arranged the landmasses, I asked to be transpired to what had caused the giant hole in the land and sunk it.... and found myself on a meteor traveling at high velocity towards earth!
I rode it through space into earths atmosphere, when the clouds cleared the meteorite was lined up on the tip of an island continent which it was going to wipe out on contact.

I jumped back into my body before impact and had a massive adrenalin rush! I was amazed for days from that with corresponding chemical dumps from the brain into my body.

Amusement park rides usually only stay with us for maybe an hour afterwards before all the chemicals released during it dissipate, but the meteorite ride effects lasted for days and my mind grappled with how I was able to do that in the first place.

Those were early days when I was just first coming into higher levels of awareness and perception, so it was all very mind blowing...it still is frankly, but that meteorite ride will always be with me as a peak experience.

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

Nope, you're not alone!

Some of my meditations have been pretty intense too. Once when in the Ashkaic Records and re-viewing one of the cataclysmic early events in Earth history which re-arranged the landmasses, I asked to be transpired to what had caused the giant hole in the land and sunk it.... and found myself on a meteor traveling at high velocity towards earth!
I rode it through space into earths atmosphere, when the clouds cleared the meteorite was lined up on the tip of an island continent which it was going to wipe out on contact.

I jumped back into my body before impact and had a massive adrenalin rush! I was amazed for days from that with corresponding chemical dumps from the brain into my body.

Amusement park rides usually only stay with us for maybe an hour afterwards before all the chemicals released during it dissipate, but the meteorite ride effects lasted for days and my mind grappled with how I was able to do that in the first place.

Those were early days when I was just first coming into higher levels of awareness and perception, so it was all very mind blowing...it still is frankly, but that meteorite ride will always be with me as a peak experience.

That's so interesting , partially because this stuff only happens to me in dreams, and they are the kind of thing that has altered my whole outlook , and keeps it focused on what I am certain is an eventuality for me : immersion into energy . That would be a good jumping-off point for the end of my ride on this rock , but who knows ? :smile:

[CrystalSong]

Our thinking mind is suspended in two ways, certain levels of dreaming and through certain levels of meditation. If we are aware of the energy we can have a pretty amazing experience once 'thinking mind' is stopped. In other words Spirit can't rise up and show us and teach us until we stop the relentless thinking of our hyper monkey minds. For this reason people first expereince multi-demensionally through lucid dreaming and astro-projecting, but by developing No Mind states of meditation we can consciously project also and have the same type of experiences.

It's all about controlling the thinking mind so that we can become Aware. The thinking mind is like a hyper child and it's hard to pay attention to the larger reality when it has us fully engaged with it's relentless thinking about everything.

[loopylucid]

Thats blooming beautiful Dar :D It very much reminds me how you described it :D its akin to the feeling of NDE, It will never leave you, even when your not in that dream its energys imprinted within your core, available at all times cause even just thinking about it seems to revive it over and over again. You explain it beautifully, far better than i could! lol
I do alot of healing via dreams/astral, always intensely different to any healing i do here, when im building it up it gets to a point where it almost constantly feels like its culminating but doesnt, just keeps growing, awwwwwww its amazing!!!!
I can say the three most intense energys ive ever felt, 2 were in astral and one nde. After each experience i can honestly say i was dumfounded for months, not even weeks and couldnt explain it to anyone at the time!
The NDE the car i was in hit a parked vechile, flipped 3 times and skidded down the road on its roof, my friend panicked but relatively unhurt kicked her way out of car and ran! But luckily a friend of my sisters heard the crash recognised the car and phoned for help and my family, i was unconcious and stopped breathing. I knew nothing of this, they had to get fire engines in to cut me out the lot was awful apparently, during that time i had the blessing of a glimpse of our true home and i was never the same after, it changed my entire life, some used to say i was a cat with nine lives and i lived quite dangerously, i was heartbroken initially to have had to come back from that energy, but i knew there was something left for me to do here.
I was in a physically and sexually abusive relationship which culminated in me turning to alcholol and the final incident was an attempted stabbing, i was pushed to the floor and somehow still to this day i dont know how, i managed to roll avoiding the penetration of the blade, it hit the floor with such force it snapped the blade! I went crazy a little recovering from this and one night when i felt i just couldnt go on and had decided id tried long enough, after a year of trying, i had fallen into a drunken stupor.. asleep on the bed sudddenly i was lifted bolt upright and my eyes opened, infront of me was bright red blood energy swirling like crazy and in the middle a relative in white energy.... i had no control over my body atall, i was staring like a rabbit in the headlights, i remember telepathically screaming, this cant be possible your DEAD, i was told to stop being so stopid almost like this is taking alot of energy girl i aint got time for your chat.. Suddenly everything mingled and a bolt made from every bit of energy within the room hit me right by my groin, promptly blasted me straight back down into the bed and there was nothing and i mean nothing for hours, It wasnt like sleep, it was like a void, it felt like hours after i suddenly came round, confused and scared, what had happened and hold on... i suddenly realised that i didnt FEEL anything, for the first time in a year i hadnt woke up crying from nightmares, I felt completely EMPTY!!! I searched sites high and low for answers, asked advice of mediums etc, why blood red energy, why my groin!!! Turns out its base chakra i believe, survival energy centre.. Soon after this i got a job, learnt how to smile again, took control back of my dreams, got off every bad thing id used to help me through and started to live again. I got told off by spirit and it still makes me laugh to this day!!
And last but not least !! The bittersweetness of catching one of your loved ones in the astral, this was recent, ive worked hard to keep my emotions disciplined to get to meet my mum, i got there and the energy was so INTENSE with love i messed it all up and came back to my body screaming and crying out her name! I couldnt take the energy that time, overwhelmed my stopid mind!! Since that day ive kinda longed to be 'Home' again. But it aint my time yet, my pussy cat lives aint over yet!!
I am ever aware and grateful for those times in my life now, because without them i couldnt of known that energy, that feeling, it floats me through on its clouds now anytime things go wrong and i say thankyou every day for it.
Beautiful share Dar, made me smile from ear to ear!! Sorry bout opening all that up on this thread, just felt like if it was gonna go anywhere, it was gonna be here!! So thanks for that to ;)
Kind blessings Loopy :)
P.s Waves at crystal .. slight hitch in my plan so im back ..hugs :) x

[Squatchit]

That was a lovely read Loopy - it was like going on a little journey with you. Thank you for sharing. :hug3:

[loopylucid]

Squatchit, Thankyou hun probs the 1st time I ever really shared that, was weird to want to but felt right as I don't say it as a victim, I say it from the place of loving acceptance and weirdly thanks, without all that, I cant be me huh lol ;)
Thanks for listening , I didn't mean it to be heavy going so im glad it doesn't come across that way.
Kind blessings to you Squatchit :) x
Loopy xx

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

That's quite an intense story, LL . In a way I feel like I'm missing out because I don't meditate much , and don't experience much when I do (except lots and lots of internal celestial sounds) . I didn't work at it when I was heavy into drugs and booze, and in the 23 years I've been off the chemicals, I haven't felt like I needed to work at it , because I've gotten so much from my dream visions. I'll take expanded awareness and higher-dimensional energy however it comes though , and since I went to rehab in 1988 I've had a real connection inside that wasn't these before.

I did go through a pretty intense 3-4 days of delerium tremens waking nightmares when I quit drinking , and I know that this was part of opening me up for what was to come. These were where the REM/Dream state intrudes into waking life , because in severe alcoholism, the brain is deprived of REM sleep. The brain will get it's REM one way or the other though, and so I got a few days of apocalyptic , paranoid, mondo-bizzaro dreams , while I was awake , and detoxifying from alcohol and drugs. Running around the city streets ....

One dream/vision that I consider key was when I saw a young boy in ceremonial garb in the doctor's lobby ; there was a narrative that was a chanting of a long, ritualized something or other ...anyway, in retrospect, it was symbolic of my death and rebirth, and once I came out of the detox, and 5 weeks of rehab, I was a different person. That's when I started having the energy/lucid dreams and one key meditation/dream. I fell alseep while meditation , but woke up after I had shot up out of my body and dissolved, completely absorbed into ... non-me . I didn't exist as a dictreet , separate entity at that point. I woke up and thought "oh, that must be what dying will be like ". Who knows though ?

Anyway, the energy dreams and lucid dreams have been full of a variety of transcendent experiences . Things I've heard people describe , plus some thinsg I've never heard anyone talk about; things I have no way of describing . Things that show me there are layers of being so rich and beautiful we would melt in ecstasy if we saw them, which is what happens to me when I get to catch a glimpse now and then . Astral is a jumping-up plane , I guess , like a layover between normal awareness and hyper-reality .
I say 'energy' dreams because it's easy to say , and maybe some of what I can describe resonates, but there is so much more . Things I don't have the right words for , and my dream notes would just sound silly or weird or not convey the wonder . Someday, maybe :alien: .

I understand the meditative approach, the silence, the calm ; I just don't do it all that much , or all that well, and now I understand that sometimes , heightened states just come in , whether I'm trying or not , and if they want to come in dreams , then so be it . The ones I've had really have transformed my ideas about this whole existence thing :smile:
It's been an adjustment, moving away from valuing meditation as
MY most significant means of experiencing a greater awareness .
I'll take it wherever it comes from !:smile:

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

Our thinking mind is suspended in two ways, certain levels of dreaming and through certain levels of meditation. If we are aware of the energy we can have a pretty amazing experience once 'thinking mind' is stopped. In other words Spirit can't rise up and show us and teach us until we stop the relentless thinking of our hyper monkey minds. For this reason people first expereince multi-demensionally through lucid dreaming and astro-projecting, but by developing No Mind states of meditation we can consciously project also and have the same type of experiences.

It's all about controlling the thinking mind so that we can become Aware. The thinking mind is like a hyper child and it's hard to pay attention to the larger reality when it has us fully engaged with it's relentless thinking about everything.

The thing that sticks out in these dreams is that thinking. When I can derail or cut it off, things go HYPER . If it's "yap yap yap" then I muck around or stop flying or wander oiff and do normal things . Turn down the rain, and crank the amp to 'Eleven' :wink:

[loopylucid]

Awww daz those celestial sounds are beautiful background offder to the experience tho huh :) And i get where your coming from with the meditation, i got to be honest.. i dont meditate atall! Neither do i ground or shield or pretty much go to any ritual before doing anything deemed spiritual, readings, writings, dreams, connecting with loved ones, astral travel! It just happens and i go with it, i dont do those things anymore because i figure i am already all those things, like if i am in chance im a meditation or what one would deem as one, to me its just me chilling now! But yeh i agree wholeheartedly, once we open up to the myriad of potential avenues of experiencce out there, almost within that weve already agreed we want it and are prepared, and then instead of trying so much, its about waiting for it to present, to be present when it does :)

*Anyway, the energy dreams and lucid dreams have been full of a variety of transcendent experiences . Things I've heard people describe , plus some thinsg I've never heard anyone talk about; things I have no way of describing . Things that show me there are layers of being so rich and beautiful we would melt in ecstasy if we saw them, which is what happens to me when I get to catch a glimpse now and then . Astral is a jumping-up plane , I guess , like a layover between normal awareness and hyper-reality .
I say 'energy' dreams because it's easy to say , and maybe some of what I can describe resonates, but there is so much more . Things I don't have the right words for , and my dream notes would just sound silly or weird or not convey the wonder . Someday, maybe .*

Well i really hope one day you try, the way you explain things despite how you may see it, is enough to create a scenario to go along with it in my mind anyway, i think you explain far better than you realise.

Dont know about you but i also find that it really is true that alot of these experiences come when we hit rock bottom, then we can use them to climb back up again.

*
One dream/vision that I consider key was when I saw a young boy in ceremonial garb in the doctor's lobby ; there was a narrative that was a chanting of a long, ritualized something or other ...anyway, in retrospect, it was symbolic of my death and rebirth, and once I came out of the detox, and 5 weeks of rehab, I was a different person. That's when I started having the energy/lucid dreams and one key meditation/dream. I fell alseep while meditation , but woke up after I had shot up out of my body and dissolved, completely absorbed into ... non-me . I didn't exist as a dictreet , separate entity at that point. I woke up and thought "oh, that must be what dying will be like ". Who knows though ?*

This is beautiful, a) that you made it through, so many dont and also the dreams its opened up for you, thanks for sharing back something personal dar, i was a bit warey of my prior post as i didnt want it to make anyone feel awkward! It was just reading yours reminded me and i couldnt help but share .

Just makes me smile how things connect, happy travels Dar hope to hear more about them soon :)
Kind blessings Loopy :)

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

To all, including this self :alien:

In the context of a life and a spiritual path, within the evolutiuon of this experience of 'me', these dreams are huge , and it's quite clear why . For a long time spirituality was about reading and hearing about what others were doing, and trying to get similar experiences, starting way back in the 70's with chemicals and gurus. I always had ideas about what I should be getting , and never really getting those things the way I thought I should, so there was a lack, a feeling of underachievement.

These powerful, transcendent, transformative dream experiences dropped in from wherever they drop -higher levels and aspects of my being , other dimensions or higher energy planes, heavenly realms , subconscious, superconscious, or however anyone wants to categorize them- and continue to show me ....what really is , not some imagined thing, because I'd never have imagined what's in these dreams. It's like , "forget about trying to do this or that, forget about fitting youself into ideals, or studying what other people have experienced" . "Don't worry about what to call it, or even how to think about it ; don't try and figure out ' what it means' .... just THIS IS IT !! :icon_eek: :D " . In my face , no monkey business, no complicated struggle with self , just " here you go, strap youself in, hold on tight, and pay attention ; that's it, this is what it's like , any questions ? ...didn't think so "

After that, all the talking and wrangling and wondering don't amount to much .I mean, yeah, it's about a path and a process and living a life as connected as I can , and 'all that ' . There's also the whole everything/nothing ultimate state , and I went there too , so at some level that's reality , or at the ultimate level. Okay, okay, there's the beyond being and non-being thing too, and I get that , but that's winding back towards philosophical , and not the point of what I'm going on about here.

What the dreams give me is concrete experience instead of ideas ; unimaginable energy instead of thinking about something unimaginable;

the actual ride instead of the brochure :D . That's it :alien:


almost it...
just want to add that I respect and admire anyone who does anything remotely resembling this in meditation, and I know a lot of people do . Not everyone operates the same , and I generally don't slow down enough to go this far (or anywhere near 'here' ) unless it's in one of these dreams. I'm just extremely grateful I get what I get, however I get it .

[Swami Chihuahuananda]

Awww daz those celestial sounds are beautiful background offder to the experience tho huh :) And i get where your coming from with the meditation, i got to be honest.. i dont meditate atall! Neither do i ground or shield or pretty much go to any ritual before doing anything deemed spiritual, readings, writings, dreams, connecting with loved ones, astral travel! It just happens and i go with it, i dont do those things anymore because i figure i am already all those things, like if i am in chance im a meditation or what one would deem as one, to me its just me chilling now! But yeh i agree wholeheartedly, once we open up to the myriad of potential avenues of experiencce out there, almost within that weve already agreed we want it and are prepared, and then instead of trying so much, its about waiting for it to present, to be present when it does :)

*Anyway, the energy dreams and lucid dreams have been full of a variety of transcendent experiences . Things I've heard people describe , plus some thinsg I've never heard anyone talk about; things I have no way of describing . Things that show me there are layers of being so rich and beautiful we would melt in ecstasy if we saw them, which is what happens to me when I get to catch a glimpse now and then . Astral is a jumping-up plane , I guess , like a layover between normal awareness and hyper-reality .
I say 'energy' dreams because it's easy to say , and maybe some of what I can describe resonates, but there is so much more . Things I don't have the right words for , and my dream notes would just sound silly or weird or not convey the wonder . Someday, maybe .*

Well i really hope one day you try, the way you explain things despite how you may see it, is enough to create a scenario to go along with it in my mind anyway, i think you explain far better than you realise.

Dont know about you but i also find that it really is true that alot of these experiences come when we hit rock bottom, then we can use them to climb back up again.

*
One dream/vision that I consider key was when I saw a young boy in ceremonial garb in the doctor's lobby ; there was a narrative that was a chanting of a long, ritualized something or other ...anyway, in retrospect, it was symbolic of my death and rebirth, and once I came out of the detox, and 5 weeks of rehab, I was a different person. That's when I started having the energy/lucid dreams and one key meditation/dream. I fell alseep while meditation , but woke up after I had shot up out of my body and dissolved, completely absorbed into ... non-me . I didn't exist as a discreet , separate entity at that point. I woke up and thought "oh, that must be what dying will be like ". Who knows though ?*

This is beautiful, a) that you made it through, so many dont and also the dreams its opened up for you, thanks for sharing back something personal dar, i was a bit warey of my prior post as i didnt want it to make anyone feel awkward! It was just reading yours reminded me and i couldnt help but share .

Just makes me smile how things connect, happy travels Dar hope to hear more about them soon :)
Kind blessings Loopy :)


Same to you, LL. I think it's great that you could open up so far and relate some of your most intense things . I know that isn't easy for everyone ; it takes courage to even revisit some of them, and even more to bring them out and deal with them. Having gone through addiction and alcoholic hell, and then recovery, I know for real how messy life can be . After reading your bit, I couldn't help but think of some of the scary places I've been .

The breakdown and obliteration of my old life and self that happened at the end of my addiction was so important in getting me where I am . It had to happen , just like I'm sure you had to go through what you did in order to move to better places. I always like hearing about how other people made it out of the messy stuff ; it always makes me think of what I did, and reminds me how much better things are now :smile: