Is anxiety lack of a certain spirituatlity?

[Spiritlite]

I have generalized anxiety disorder. I've overcome many anxiety issues, from bad OCD as a 14 year old, to not wanting to leave my house for a year aboutg 7 years ago.
Yesterday my counselor was trying to figure out how I could overcome huge anxiety issues, but right now I cannot get out of this anxiety mess.

I wake up every single day anxious....every single morning I'm anxious as all let out. My counselor yesterday gave me two things to work on with the anxiety, and I'm trying but I know it's not going to take one day and poof my anxiety is great.

Is anxiety also something to do with a lack of spirituality of some kind? In other words, I've read be in the now becuase my anxiety has to do with OMG tonite I have to work and what if I mess up and kill someone (I'm a nurse), am I anxious now because I'm not enjoying the now?

Could it be something else? Like a negative attachment?
Thanks guys
Spiritlite

[Falling Star]

Sometimes i think it is a spiritual lesson on our pathways that teaches us compasion and empathy for others. looking back one day you may see it was all part of your spiritual journey, *walking the walk, to talk the talk* so to speak.

I suffered from anxiety when i was younger, seems to be a trait of sensitives and empaths. It was only when i started walking my Reiki pathway as a healer that i could see quite clearly why i suffered from it then.

[Spiritlite]

hmm that's a good response falling, because right now I'm thinking that my anxiety is related to my work. I've been a nurse since I was 22 I'm now 35 I have my bachelors in nursing and I really know what I'm doing.
However, I've had this affinity to get into alternative healing ie reiki practitioner, do spiritual readigns for others (which I've done all my life) etc, is my body telling me thru anxiety that I need a change?
Spiritlite

[Royalite]

I have generalized anxiety disorder. I've overcome many anxiety issues, from bad OCD as a 14 year old, to not wanting to leave my house for a year aboutg 7 years ago.
Yesterday my counselor was trying to figure out how I could overcome huge anxiety issues, but right now I cannot get out of this anxiety mess.

I wake up every single day anxious....every single morning I'm anxious as all let out. My counselor yesterday gave me two things to work on with the anxiety, and I'm trying but I know it's not going to take one day and poof my anxiety is great.

Is anxiety also something to do with a lack of spirituality of some kind? In other words, I've read be in the now becuase my anxiety has to do with OMG tonite I have to work and what if I mess up and kill someone (I'm a nurse), am I anxious now because I'm not enjoying the now?

Could it be something else? Like a negative attachment?
Thanks guys
Spiritlite


Yay you're a nurse! :D

I sometimes find myself developing anxiety when I'm attached to things and don't get my "fix".

Eg: I deleted (not deactivated) my facebook account a few months ago because I would become depressed and anxious when I didn't get a chance to sign onto it.

Also, I use to get anxious when I developed an unhealthy attachment in relationships. Wanting more and more of their love and attention. That can cause a lot of anxiety.

[Falling Star]

hmm that's a good response falling, because right now I'm thinking that my anxiety is related to my work. I've been a nurse since I was 22 I'm now 35 I have my bachelors in nursing and I really know what I'm doing.
However, I've had this affinity to get into alternative healing ie reiki practitioner, do spiritual readigns for others (which I've done all my life) etc, is my body telling me thru anxiety that I need a change?
Spiritlite


You might just be being led down that pathway Spiritlite, it could be another string to your bow.
It would compliment your nursing career.

[Spiritlite]

Hi Dynamist;
I fortunately dn't have that issue with FB lol, but I do have that issue with my husband. It's weird because he went away this past weekend and during the whole weekend I don't think i was anxious once! Could I be picking up on his energy? Because deep down he has anxiety issues too, i wonder if i'm picking up on his anxiety.
Thanks
Spiritlite

[Royalite]

Hi Dynamist;
I fortunately dn't have that issue with FB lol, but I do have that issue with my husband. It's weird because he went away this past weekend and during the whole weekend I don't think i was anxious once! Could I be picking up on his energy? Because deep down he has anxiety issues too, i wonder if i'm picking up on his anxiety.
Thanks
Spiritlite


Maybe? You could ask him.

I just read your other post. Maybe that desire for change is what's causing that anxiety as well. Are you afraid to maybe let go of your career because you know it so well?

[shepherd]

No, anxiety is caused through many factors stimulating and over arousing part of the brain called the limbic system. It's not your fault as there are so many factors you cannot be responsible for.

You can learn to change it around though through various therapies like, hypnotherapy, CBT, NLP, EFT, IEMT, mindfulness meditation and counselling.

Spirituality has nothing to do with that part of the brain but certain aspects of it can be useful in helping to change the way you look at life which can help you feel more calmer and relaxed. Some parts make it worse as it promotes fear and create unhelpful programs, its all well meaning of course but can be destructive. Best keep an open mind and not subscribe to beliefs as being true.

[Spiritlite]

Hi Dynamist yeah I'm havnig a hard time letting go of my career it's the only thing I've known since I was 17.
Shephard I know exactly what you are saying. I saw a new counselor yesterday (first time I've ever been to counselin) and he gave me two things to work on to reduce anxiety and although it helps immediately I know that I have to program my brain so the first week if not month is going to be hard reprogramming my brain.
THanks all
Spiritlite

[Lostgirl]

Im a student nurse just gone into my third and final year and i always get that anxious feeling before work. Especially before a night shift. It might just be anticipating what goes wron not necersarily a negative attachment.

[Spiritlite]

yes Lost that's how I am anticipating the worst but that's really not healthy but in your case that's normal as you are a studen nurse.... :)

[LightFilledHeart]

Hi everybody,


It seems to me that any given time in history has its stresses. These are naturally carried in the collective consciousness, where we all inadvertently tap into them. It's a well known fact that they can cause debilitating symptoms, especially in sensitives and empaths like myself.

I believe this dynamic is even MORE influential at this particular time, because in the midst of all the world upheavel, political struggle, war, strife, famine, natural disasters, etc, we are ALSO being subjected to profound changes in our individual consciousnesses and in our physical bodies. As I understand it, our very DNA is being altered, and we are actually morphing into a new species... one the shamans call "homo luminous". The planet too is evolving in the same fashion, and we feel it all! We feel it on a collective level, and we feel it individually. Perhaps lightworkers and those afore named sensitives and empaths are more susceptable because we feel EVERYTHING at a more intense level, but to some degree I believe this is happening world wide. And while it's true that the psychiactric community is quick to name and label, then proceeding to conveniently lump everything under the new disorder of the day (PTSD, ADD, etc), never-the-less, named or not it seems obvious to me that many, many are suffering from above average anxiety levels and simultaneously manifesting physical conditions and disorders that reflect them.

I don't know what the answer is, but I would say if a given modality helps you, then pursue it! The only other thing I can offer is to advise daily spiritual practices that ground and center you at the same time as they align you with spirit. And we all need to express understanding and compassion to one another... apply the balm of human warmth and caring to those around us we see suffering. Perhaps that is the best medicine of all.

[Spiritlite]

Light filled hear that is also what I was thinknig about too as I'm reading the first book by B. Marcinack...thankyou for that
Spiritlite

[shepherd]

Your evolution naturally makes sure you predict the worst when it comes to something you dread or fear as the limbic systems only goal is to keep you alive which of course is out of context when it comes to normal every day life.

Sometimes asking yourself "is this 100% true?" can help bring you back from getting hpnotised by the catastrophe your mind may be predicting.

Avoid caffeine, alchohol and too much sugar. Cannabis and other mind altering drugs are a no no too.

Exercise, eat well and learn to meditate in whatever way works for you.

[Enya]

Anxiety isn't a lack of spirituality... it's more likely to be a difficulty with self-perception, understanding and awareness, often stemming from early life experiences. Once you find the roots of your anxiety (through counselling, self-awareness work, healing, hypnosis, EFT, NLP, whatever works...) and blend it with your spiritual development, you will re-gain the strength you lose with this debilitating mis-perception.

[Spiritlite]

Thankyou all guys
Spiritlite

[blackfellawhitefella]

let go the game
and with it the shame
let go the game
what value in fame
let go the game
those actions of names
let go the game
its from where comes the pain
let go the game
its bloody insane

[3dnow]

No, anxiety is caused through many factors stimulating and over arousing part of the brain called the limbic system. It's not your fault as there are so many factors you cannot be responsible for.


From wikipedia article on limbic system:

Some scientists have suggested that the concept of the limbic system should be abandoned as obsolete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsolete_scientific_theories), as it is grounded more in transient tradition than in facts.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic#cite_note-Ledoux03-1)

3dnow

[Lostgirl]

yes Lost that's how I am anticipating the worst but that's really not healthy but in your case that's normal as you are a studen nurse.... :)


It is normal for anybody in the health profession, plus im in my third year so im almost qualified. My last mentor was a sister on the ward and had been on the same ward for many years and she always had the same feeling before a night shifrt especially. I think its perfectly normal to be nervous and anxious before a shift. You dont know who you will be treating, what will be wrong with them, how ill they are or if anyone will die - not by your hands of course, but in the general working of the ward.

If you are worried about it then see if you can talk to your manager and see what they suggest or seek advice from family. I dont think its anything negative at all and is just a natural thing to do in the professsion we are in :D
Blessed Be.

[Lostgirl]

From wikipedia article on limbic system:

Some scientists have suggested that the concept of the limbic system should be abandoned as obsolete (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FObsolete_scientific_theories), as it is grounded more in transient tradition than in facts.[2] (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FLimbic%23cite_note-Ledoux03-1)

3dnow


Really sorry, but please dont pay attention to Wikipedia its so unreliable....however I believe you...that was more of a ward of caution haha :D

[3dnow]

Really sorry, but please dont pay attention to Wikipedia its so unreliable....however I believe you...that was more of a ward of caution haha :D

There is a reference to a book (which I have not read). This doesn't mean there is no limbic system but doesn't mean there is either. I'm just saying :smile:

3dnow

[shepherd]

Quote:
Originally Posted by shepherd
No, anxiety is caused through many factors stimulating and over arousing part of the brain called the limbic system. It's not your fault as there are so many factors you cannot be responsible for.



From wikipedia article on limbic system:

Some scientists have suggested that the concept of the limbic system should be abandoned as obsolete (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.wikipedia.org%252 52Fwiki%25252FObsolete_scientific_theories), as it is grounded more in transient tradition than in facts.[2] (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.wikipedia.org%252 52Fwiki%25252FLimbic%252523cite_note-Ledoux03-1)
You can pretty much argue anything to do with the brain and its functions. The section you pointed out merely says some scientists dont agree with the area of the brain being pointed out. So there maybe much more to it which is the brilliance of neuro science but in the meanwhilse that is the current understanding and current physcology experiments show that the brain (despite debates over parts) acts in the way it has evolved.

What was also missed out with cherry picking one sentence was the rest of the paragraph which shows the evolving understanding of the limbic system. The cherry picked sentence followed after this.

Still, there remains much controversy over the use of the term. When it was first coined, it was posited as the emotional center of the brain, with cognition being the business of the neocortex (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FNeocortex) by contrast. However, this almost immediately ran into trouble when damage to the hippocampus (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwik i%2FHippocampus), a primary limbic structure, was shown to result in severe cognitive (memory) deficits. And since its inception, the delineating boundaries of the limbic system have been changed again and again by the community. More recently, attempts have been made to salvage the concept through more precise definition, but there are still no generally accepted criteria for defining its parts.

So understanding of the limbic system is still evolving, which is exciting stuff. We would never talk about anything really if we were concerned the information may evolve, no point living in fear and just pointing out current understanding of any subject.

[3dnow]

You can pretty much argue anything to do with the brain and its functions. The section you pointed out merely says some scientists dont agree with the area of the brain being pointed out. So there maybe much more to it which is the brilliance of neuro science but in the meanwhilse that is the current understanding and current physcology experiments show that the brain (despite debates over parts) acts in the way it has evolved.

What was also missed out with cherry picking one sentence was the rest of the paragraph which shows the evolving understanding of the limbic system. The cherry picked sentence followed after this.



So understanding of the limbic system is still evolving, which is exciting stuff. We would never talk about anything really if we were concerned the information may evolve, no point living in fear and just pointing out current understanding of any subject.

Evolving or not the subject is controversial. This is good to know IMHO.

"Still, there remains much controversy over the use of the term. When it was first coined, it was posited as the emotional center of the brain, with cognition being the business of the neocortex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocortex) by contrast. However, this almost immediately ran into trouble when damage to the hippocampus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocampus), a primary limbic structure, was shown to result in severe cognitive (memory) deficits. And since its inception, the delineating boundaries of the limbic system have been changed again and again by the community. More recently, attempts have been made to salvage the concept through more precise definition, but there are still no generally accepted criteria for defining its parts. As a concept grounded more in tradition than in facts, many scientists have suggested that the concept should be considered obsolete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsolete_scientific_theories) and abandoned.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic_system#cite_note-Ledoux03-1)"

3dnow

[Spiritlite]

I love these types of debates..... as for the nursing student I'm surprised that a long term nurse would also get anxious before a night shift...thank god I'm not the only one LOL.
Spiritlite

[shepherd]

Well debatable or not I've worked with thousands of people experiencing anxiety which an amazing success rate based on limbic and unconscious knowledge both of which could be debated very easily (everthing is) I would suggest to those experiencing anxiety to explore helping themselves with knowledge like this and for anyone else who has the time then they can debate until the cows come home.

[Xan]

Spiritlite... It's terrible to have to live with anxiety, which has little to do with one's spirituality but may come from a variety of causes, both emotional and physical.

I often recommend a method for releasing negative emotional patterns like anxiety, which is simple to learn and use and truly effective. This is EFT - Emotional Freedom Techniques. I posted a little article about it at - http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4478 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fshowthread.php%253 Ft%253D4478)

I hope you will look into it.


Xan

[Spiritlite]

Thankyou Xan I will look into it.
Spiritlite

[star-child]

I often get very anxious so I know what it's like.

I have just finished reading Ask and it is Given (learning to manifest the law of attraction) by Esther and Jerry Hicks. Some of the things mentioned in there like how your thoughts and beliefs can attract certain situations has made me take a different approach to my anxious thoughts, plus the book provides good processes to help you think more positively.

I hope it sounds like something that will help you too :smile: