Distance Reiki

[ces]

I tend to use reiki firstly for myself and my oh and also for my pets. The only real hands on reiki that I do. I attend a reiki share and do hand on reiki there. The way I usually work with reiki is via distance.

I love the way it can reach the people and animals I can't physically touch. I have on occassion offered some reiki in this way to some animals on a forum I moderate on. In deciding on whether to offer I tend to read the post about the problem and see if I am drawn to the animal (feel that i want to send reiki) and the owner. I then speak to the owner about it and send if they agree.

I am considering posting about reiki on this particular forum but am a little concerned that I could be overwhelmed with requests for help. I have thought I would need to cover this off in the information I provided about it - to say that I will send where I can but that I can not promise on every occassion due to other committments and time restrictions. I need to put together some information about it to see how it feels.

Question - do i need insurance to do this? I have had yes and no answers from friends at the reiki share and I am now unsure........ any idea or thought?

Thanks cesx

[innerlight]

I think the insurance question is better answered if you tell us if you are charging money for your healing, and if you are claiming you can cure someone.


If you are not charging anything then a person can't really sue you and get anything back from you.

[ces]

Sorry Innerlight - I forgot about that. :D

No I'm not charging. I consider these people to be my friends. I spend time reading about their lives with their pets and consider it to be a privelage to be in that position. I just ask that they send any feedback.

I am most definitely not claiming to cure. I always advise that any reiki is sent to ease any discomfort or to help with healing depending on which path the animal is on. If the animal is ill or showing signs of illness I always recommend that they take the pet to a vet. So if the animal is on the path to passing over then i send reiki to ease any discomfort. If the animal is ill but is in treatment - then to again ease discomfort and help them to recover in their own time.

[innerlight]

If we look at the definition of what insurance is you will get this, or something very similar to it.


promise of reimbursement in the case of loss; paid to people or companies so concerned about hazards that they have made prepayments to an insurance company
Since you are not charing anything they are not losing anything. The only thing they could possibly lose would be time. I'm not really sure how one could put a price on time that was free. Though I suppose a lawyer could find a way. :rolleyes:

[ces]

Thanks Inner - basic principles of insurance - should have thought of that.

Don't need to worry then I don't think. Complementary therapy insurance is available though as I am sure i have seen it somewhere on the web. :smile:

[innerlight]

Thanks Inner - basic principles of insurance - should have thought of that.

Don't need to worry then I don't think. Complementary therapy insurance is available though as I am sure i have seen it somewhere on the web. :smile:

If you can afford to get insurance it never hurts to be cautious. I've learned in my travels it's best to always cover your butt, and in doing so take every precautioun that can be taken to protect you. It is a shame that we have become a society that needs to take that extra step instead of really working with an honor system of some kind.

[Silverfox]

Hi CES, I am part of a healing circle in Scotland and although we don't charge for giving Reiki outside the circle, our Reiki master insisted that we should have insurance so every concept is covered giving peace of mind to all concerned. You may find that once you look into insurance cover, it will not be that expensive. Certainly worth investigating...for peace of mind.

Healing thoughts to one & all

Silverfox

[LightFilledHeart]

Hi CES, I am part of a healing circle in Scotland and although we don't charge for giving Reiki outside the circle, our Reiki master insisted that we should have insurance so every concept is covered giving peace of mind to all concerned. You may find that once you look into insurance cover, it will not be that expensive. Certainly worth investigating...for peace of mind.

Healing thoughts to one & all

Silverfox

Hi Silver,

I'm wondering why insurance would be necessary with a totally non-invasive form of passing healing energy, as we know Reiki to be. No herbs are involved, no manipulation of body parts, nothing taken internally. It's merely a case of passing universal life force, and as any certified Reiki pracitioner or master knows, and the reciever can refuse to allow healing to manifest if at some level (unconscious or otherwise) they perceive their condition to be serving them. Reiki does not step over free will choice. What possible harm could there then be, and how could anyone possibly sue under these circumstances?

P.S. I find your avatar interesting and quite beautiful. My totem animal is the Timberwolf, and I have a strong affinity for wolves in general, but I am not able to tell from the picture if that is a white wolf or a white fox. I'm thinking the latter... am I right? :)

[ces]

I'm going to check out the insurance side of things :(

[Virtuality]

I know that the iarp offers insurance, but if you find something more affordable than theirs please share.

[ces]

I know that the iarp offers insurance, but if you find something more affordable than theirs please share.

I will if I get some answers. :D

[Virtuality]

I just found this, although not sure how good theirs is... http://www.namtonline.com/home/index.php?site_config_id=1&page_selection=24&aid=12024&s_page= the cheapest I've found, but not sure exactly what is covered by their plan as the site is kinda vague...

and http://www.internationalreikiassociation.com/home/index.php?site_config_id=11&page_selection=1684 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.internationalrei kiassociation.com%25252Fhome%25252Findex.php%25253 Fsite_config_id%25253D11%252526amp%25253Bpage_sele ction%25253D1684) which is kinda nice that its INCLUDED in their membership unlike the iarp. [EDIT: JUST CALLED THEM AND THEY'RE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS... BUMMER :( ]

found this one too, but they're more expensive: http://www.handsontrade.com/Coverage.html

and also http://www.abmp.com/contact/ I sent a note to them to find out exactly what they cover....

and of course iarp.org only problem with them is that the insurance is in ADDITION to the membership fee which is sort of harsh (although the certificates sure are pretty).

still looking for a cheap solution to something my spiritual side thinks shouldn't be necessary in the first place :rolleyes:

maybe between the two of us we can find an insurance miracle, lol!

[EmergingPath]

I'm going to check out the insurance side of things :(

here is a link to IARP's site where you can pick some up if so inclinded
http://www.iarpreiki.org/Default.aspx (I am neither endorsing nor promoting that organization or its insuirance)

I would also suggest another avenue to go could be to be ordained as a minister with hands on Reiki as part of your spiritual practice...


Just my opinion :smile:

[Silverfox]

Hello to one & all.

Light filled heart, thank you for your very common sense response to why we would need insurance. Not sure what its like outside the UK but within the UK and if you practice Reiki and charge for the service...you require insurance. Don't get me wrong, there are still wonderful Reiki practicioners out there that give their Reiki services for free...like us... but am not sure if they have insurance? LFH, you make a really valid point in that why would someone sue over Reiki.

It's a Silverfox...and of course, its a bhoy.
Blue light healing to one & all.

God bless.

:cool:

[ces]

Hello to one & all.

Light filled heart, thank you for your very common sense response to why we would need insurance. Not sure what its like outside the UK but within the UK and if you practice Reiki and charge for the service...you require insurance. Don't get me wrong, there are still wonderful Reiki practicioners out there that give their Reiki services for free...like us... but am not sure if they have insurance? LFH, you make a really valid point in that why would someone sue over Reiki.

It's a Silverfox...and of course, its a bhoy.
Blue light healing to one & all.

God bless.

:cool:

I'm not charging though so does it still require insurance.

[Virtuality]

You can get sued whether you are charging or not... that doesn't matter.

I'd check with your local govt to see what the actual legal requirements are because it will vary based on where you live. You could also ask your teacher, they should know.

[LightFilledHeart]

Hello to one & all.

Light filled heart, thank you for your very common sense response to why we would need insurance. Not sure what its like outside the UK but within the UK and if you practice Reiki and charge for the service...you require insurance. Don't get me wrong, there are still wonderful Reiki practicioners out there that give their Reiki services for free...like us... but am not sure if they have insurance? LFH, you make a really valid point in that why would someone sue over Reiki.

It's a Silverfox...and of course, its a bhoy.
Blue light healing to one & all.

God bless.

:cool:

Hi Silverfox :smile:

I understand what you're saying. This is a legal requirement in the UK (insurance IF one charges for the service of Reiki), and as such must be adhered to. I honestly don't know if the US has a similar law, but I have never heard such refered to. In any case, it has never felt right to me to charge for this service, so I would not be in a position where having insurance was necessary.

Thanks for explaining about your lovely avatar. He's beautiful!

I have a step daughter living in your beautiful country and I was privileged to visit at Christmas the year my hubby crossed into spirit. I hope to have an opportunity to go again one day.

Light-filled blessings!

[LightFilledHeart]

You can get sued whether you are charging or not... that doesn't matter.

I'd check with your local govt to see what the actual legal requirements are because it will vary based on where you live. You could also ask your teacher, they should know.

I'm afraid I don't understand...sued for what??

Since the legal system does not recognize Reiki as legitimate in any fashion, what could someone sue for, especially if no money were exchanged and no promises of healing given?? Christian faith healers dupe gullible folks every day with their fake healings and nobody sues them.

It seems like it would be a hard case to win based on the fact that the legal system doesn't believe in Reiki or its ability to effect any change what-so-ever! That being a given, how can they infer someone was harmed by something that doesn't exist? The whole concept seems illogical to me.

I suppose if someone wants to protect themselves from even the POSSIBILITY of ever having to deal with being sued an argument can be made for purchasing the insurance, but I'll stick with what I've done all along and know I am protected by virtue of offering light-filled services free of charge to those in need :smile:

[ces]

This is what is so confusing....

[Silverfox]

Hi Silverfox :smile:

I understand what you're saying. This is a legal requirement in the UK (insurance IF one charges for the service of Reiki), and as such must be adhered to. I honestly don't know if the US has a similar law, but I have never heard such refered to. In any case, it has never felt right to me to charge for this service, so I would not be in a position where having insurance was necessary.

Thanks for explaining about your lovely avatar. He's beautiful!

I have a step daughter living in your beautiful country and I was privileged to visit at Christmas the year my hubby crossed into spirit. I hope to have an opportunity to go again one day.

Light-filled blessings!

Hi there Light Filled Heart,

Thanks for the update, wonder what the Insurance set up is in Europe..anyone help out here please ??

LFH, glad you like my Silverfox, like Dream Angel said...its the eyes.

So glad you had the opportunity to visit Beautiful Scotland. I prefer the Westside myself...checkout undiscovered scotland for a deep flavoured guided tour.

Stay safe, walk with the Angels.

Silverfox
:cool:

[Virtuality]

Hey Light

You don't need to do anything wrong to get sued, any time you deal with people it becomes a possiblity. Some people are just out to make a buck and they make some stuff up. It doesn't matter if you make no claims or offer your service for free. People "slip and fall" outside shopping malls in the winter all the time and sue the owner or the chain store... or walk behind cars in the parking lot on purpose... or spill coffee on themselves. There is also the off-chance that your table breaks and hurts someone, they trip and fall over a rug or whatever.

The problem is this: even if you win you still have to pay a lot just to defend yourself. That is where insurance comes in handy. It hasnt happened to me knock on wood... but i've seen horrible things happen to other people.

Sorry for my paranoia... I spent a few too many years in the construction industry I think :)

[Silverfox]

Hey Light

You don't need to do anything wrong to get sued, any time you deal with people it becomes a possiblity. Some people are just out to make a buck and they make some stuff up. It doesn't matter if you make no claims or offer your service for free. People "slip and fall" outside shopping malls in the winter all the time and sue the owner or the chain store... or walk behind cars in the parking lot on purpose... or spill coffee on themselves. There is also the off-chance that your table breaks and hurts someone, they trip and fall over a rug or whatever.

The problem is this: even if you win you still have to pay a lot just to defend yourself. That is where insurance comes in handy. It hasnt happened to me knock on wood... but i've seen horrible things happen to other people.

Sorry for my paranoia... I spent a few too many years in the construction industry I think :)

Hi Virtuality.

Everything you say is so true. This is the modern world in which we live in and I guess we have to live with that fact. Certainly feel more secure with having insurance than being without.

Take care out there friends.

Silverfox
:cool:

[Virtuality]

And for those of us who are already slightly... or ermmm :icon_shaking: really paranoid, it takes the pressure off so we don't accidentally ATTRACT those negative experiences to ourselves. It frees us up to be a bit more ourselves :smileinbox:

You take care too Silverfox

Love and light everyone!

[innerlight]

I'm not charging though so does it still require insurance.

Now that I think about it it is probably good to have insurance.. Especially with doing energy healing. More so when you are doing hands on than hands off. You have the possibility that one can claim that you put your hands in the wrong spaces, or they were not comfortable with your hands, and claim you harrassed them. Sadly, this type of things can happen when doing healing with your hands.

Even with distant healing one could make up stories that you harrassed them, or assaulted them with your energy.

So as a peace of mind it would probably be best to get insurance if you are planning on doing it professionally, or has a side. You may also want to check with your local laws as well to see what they require for you to be a holistic practioner.

[Lynn]

Hello


Having just completed me Level One Reiki and being told at Chuch I can go into the Healing Room with someoene as long as anothe Master was there. I get that as the hands are placed on the body. NOT all places are appropriate to touch.

ONE has to be very aware that a person might well have suffered from some form of abuse or trama and a touch in any of the mid section might open the wounds held there.

It is all energy and it is FELT by the person if there or if at a distance. It is all touch. I have done distant healing with friends for a long time now....and respct is always there.

Being Empathic and able to read other's will serve me well in being able to pick up on the surface fears that are there. To know if there is some area I should make sure I have permission to go there with.

I had that with the one I did me trainning with. She had been abused both in childhood and in her marriage. I could FEEL that with her. As we had to KNOW the full hand postions I was very aware to ASK it it was OK to move on each time I moved me hands. There has to be that trust with healer and pateint.

To practice independenly where I live i have to have Level 2 and do three months with SOMEONE that is a Master Healer before I can go to Level 3 and before I can work alone for a FEE. Then a waver is signed by the patient.

Its very strictly regulated in the place I live which I feel is GOOD.

Lynn