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Kaere
05-10-2010, 10:58 PM
Hi all, I hope someone might shed some light for me.

I've been working the last little while on doing healing for myself, trying to work through some blockages and all. What I've been doing is some belly breathing (as per Xan) and some meditation and visualizing white light coming through the body from the top of my head on down through the chakras. Just so you have an idea of what I'm talking about.

Last night I started the breathing and was pulling the white light down and when it got to the centre of my head, I got a nosebleed, which brought my session to a screeching halt and I didn't restart. The two could be just coincidence but I don't get nosebleeds often or easily. And I've had a brutal bad headache all day today from it.

Any thoughts on this? What could I avoid doing in future, am I perhaps approaching this healing idea in the wrong way?

Gem
05-10-2010, 11:07 PM
I think perhaps avoid that technique. I hear what you are saying but don't see how anyone could offer a thereputic method without knowledge of the details surrounding the hurt you wish to heal.

Usually just opening up and talking to a trusted friend about it is plain, simple and effective I think.

Kaere
05-10-2010, 11:15 PM
Thanks for your thoughts Gem. I'm pretty much just wondering if it's possible that the two are connected.

I'm not even sure of what the hurt is that needs healing (it's emotional not physical) - rather I keep hoping it will either become apparent or I will move beyond the need for healing.

It can all be a little complicated when it doesn't have to be lol.

Roselove
06-10-2010, 12:23 AM
i would advise you to be gentle with yourself while doing healing, and perhaps get a healer to assit you, guide you in the begining

the metaphysical cause for nosebleeds is crying out for love and recognition.

mei-ling
06-10-2010, 12:31 AM
" trying to work through some blockages and all ' ......."I'm not even sure of what the hurt is that needs healing (it's emotional not physical)".

I dont get it..........WHat were you doing then?.You assume you have blockages but you don't know what needs to be healed?.......That blockage, if there is any, has a reason for being there........I think there are safer ways to get these blockages removed or balanced or whatever you want to call it........

Kaere
06-10-2010, 12:33 AM
the metaphysical cause for nosebleeds is crying out for love and recognition.


I didn't know that - interesting. Considering what I've been working on, that rather fits. Thanks for your thoughts.

Kaere
06-10-2010, 12:35 AM
" trying to work through some blockages and all ' ......."I'm not even sure of what the hurt is that needs healing (it's emotional not physical)".

I dont get it..........WHat were you doing then?.You assume you have blockages but you don't know what needs to be healed?.......That blockage, if there is any, has a reason for being there........I think there are safer ways to get these blockages removed or balanced or whatever you want to call it........

If you'd like to advise me of those ways, I'm more than happy to hear it :smile:

Gem
06-10-2010, 04:02 AM
Thanks for your thoughts Gem. I'm pretty much just wondering if it's possible that the two are connected.

I'm not even sure of what the hurt is that needs healing (it's emotional not physical) - rather I keep hoping it will either become apparent or I will move beyond the need for healing.

It can all be a little complicated when it doesn't have to be lol.

I guess there must be symtoms like feelings and sometimes who can know what these are doing and why they do it?...

I know what hurts me Kaere, but I try to feel every detail and in my body I feel it in the pit of my guts under my ribs and right here (clutches heart), so I sit quietly and really pay attention to the bodily sensations and feel them intently.

Even though my mind can see the reasons this pain was caused I ignore its chattering and melodrama and just concentrate and focus on the sensations I described coupled with the emotions, and really get to know them as I explore them deeply, and really feel it physically and emotionally. And... it's serious work.

I find this actually leaves me with a warm open feeling inside...

Kaere
06-10-2010, 03:10 PM
I guess there must be symtoms like feelings and sometimes who can know what these are doing and why they do it?...

That's exactly it - to not know why one feels the way they do. So you sit quietly and meditate and fill yourself up and wait for clarity.


I know what hurts me Kaere, but I try to feel every detail and in my body I feel it in the pit of my guts under my ribs and right here (clutches heart), so I sit quietly and really pay attention to the bodily sensations and feel them intently.

Even though my mind can see the reasons this pain was caused I ignore its chattering and melodrama and just concentrate and focus on the sensations I described coupled with the emotions, and really get to know them as I explore them deeply, and really feel it physically and emotionally. And... it's serious work.

I find this actually leaves me with a warm open feeling inside...

Yes, it is very serious work. I've been trying this as well the last two weeks or so. And while I've had some good breakthroughs on changing perspective and that's let a lot of it go - there's still enough there to be incapacitating at times, where I truly cannot draw a breath. But it'll come, I'm sure :smile:

Roselove
06-10-2010, 06:07 PM
try breathing through the feelings, eft etc should help! i should be working on this myself lol

Kaere
06-10-2010, 07:28 PM
Hi again Rosewater, yes I do try that - it'll take some time.

Ivy
06-10-2010, 08:06 PM
Keare, in addition to whats been said.

If your headaches and/or nosebleeds are persistant, it is worth just getting checked out by your doctor.

But if you are taking deep breaths in through your nose, you may be causing mucus to block in your sinuses....this could cause nosebleeds as well as headaches.

In terms of meditation, I dont know xans meditation that you say youre using, but generally speaking two or three deeper breaths is plenty...and if you want to focus on your breath, focus on its natural rhythm. If you find your focus drifting, then take a further deep breath to re-focus. But again, only one, and always make sure that you breathe in slowly so its not like a giant sniff, as this blocks your sinusses.

As I say, I dont wish to take away from the emotional side...but its as important to consider the physical too. x

Kaere
06-10-2010, 08:10 PM
Hi heather,

No, nosebleeds are not persistent and/or common. It's been a long time since I've had one.

I was referring to the belly breathing that Xan mentions as a way to help deal with uncomfortable feelings - it's just breathing deeper into the body. Not that I'm taking huge snorting sniffery breaths through my nose lol. Just normal breathing, but I "direct" it somewhat deeper into the body. As I do so I imagine it's white light and not just air.

Gem
07-10-2010, 01:22 AM
That's exactly it - to not know why one feels the way they do. So you sit quietly and meditate and fill yourself up and wait for clarity.

Yes, it is very serious work. I've been trying this as well the last two weeks or so. And while I've had some good breakthroughs on changing perspective and that's let a lot of it go - there's still enough there to be incapacitating at times, where I truly cannot draw a breath. But it'll come, I'm sure :smile:

Yeah, that happens to me too.

I think thats good when you get to where you can't draw a breath because it means you found the hurty, so you're right there and the thing has been found... and good work Kaere.

I think now be really determined and persist patiently with feeling deeply into it.

in progress
07-10-2010, 08:27 AM
Baffling to me. I've pulled white light through my crown many times, often letting it flow through my body then out my feet into the ground. Maybe grounding it will help if you weren't doing that already. The energy to me feels electrical in nature so I feel you have to consider that and apply physical concepts to it! Have you ever noticed sometimes that resistances will heat up?!

I've had some mild headaches due to energy but never a nosebleed. Sometimes the "crown pull" will help with headaches. Crown pull demo at www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIOqIAugZA

I don't think you need to avoid visualizing white light. Maybe adjust the way you intend it, thinking of it as unconditional love gently working in your highest interest. Sometimes it takes time for our bodies to adjust so add feelings like gentleness, flowing freely or soothing to your efforts and see if that helps. I know when I was first started using the light, white light sometimes felt too bright so I used blue or another color instead. Check in with your intuition and follow its lead.

Kaere
07-10-2010, 01:51 PM
Yeah, that happens to me too.

I think thats good when you get to where you can't draw a breath because it means you found the hurty, so you're right there and the thing has been found... and good work Kaere.

I think now be really determined and persist patiently with feeling deeply into it.


Determined is something I am working on - I do tend to flinch from it. But what's going to happen really, I'm just going to feel something not dig a swimming pool :) thanks Gem it's a comfort to know someone understands what I'm saying.

Kaere
07-10-2010, 01:53 PM
Baffling to me. I've pulled white light through my crown many times, often letting it flow through my body then out my feet into the ground. Maybe grounding it will help if you weren't doing that already. The energy to me feels electrical in nature so I feel you have to consider that and apply physical concepts to it! Have you ever noticed sometimes that resistances will heat up?!

I've had some mild headaches due to energy but never a nosebleed. Sometimes the "crown pull" will help with headaches. Crown pull demo at www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMIOqIAugZA (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtu be.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQMIOqIAugZA)

I don't think you need to avoid visualizing white light. Maybe adjust the way you intend it, thinking of it as unconditional love gently working in your highest interest. Sometimes it takes time for our bodies to adjust so add feelings like gentleness, flowing freely or soothing to your efforts and see if that helps. I know when I was first started using the light, white light sometimes felt too bright so I used blue or another color instead. Check in with your intuition and follow its lead.

And this is also comforting - I'm not bonkers! Will definitely check out that link and apply some of what you've suggested. The idea that white light can feel too bright is very appropriate to me. For someone who does use colour for different things, why it didn't occur to me to try a different colour with this is beyond me lol.

Gem
08-10-2010, 04:39 AM
Determined is something I am working on - I do tend to flinch from it. But what's going to happen really, I'm just going to feel something not dig a swimming pool :) thanks Gem it's a comfort to know someone understands what I'm saying.

You're welcome.

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