The Role Of The Light Bearer

[Spirit Guide Sparrow]

The Role Of The Light Bearer
By Spirit Guide Sparrow

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To be the standard for all those who seek resolution in light
To be a light holder. An energy holder to support balance and growth around the world.
To be the pioneers of change and forward thinking.
To be the liberators of truth and cooperation.
To be the example of love personified.
To be the teachers of the knowledge and the process.
To be the facilitators and practitioners of inner wisdom and sovereign Self-given gifts.
To be kind, compassionate and forgiving.
To be the ambassadors of light, love and liberty.
To be the disassemblers of illusion.
To be the seeders of greater understanding and expanded consciousness.
To be the way showers, inspirers and world leaders.
To be the healers, the listeners and the carers.
To be the voice of spirit.
To be the creators.
To be the transmuters, transitioners and trainers.
To be the authors of Earths future in the cosmos.
To be the protectors of mother Earth and all its inhabitants.

[Tiss]

Sparrow,


I send love and light to you and your deeds.


I am very interested on light issues and specifically I would like to know more about light bearers. Your chart is clear but I would be glad to have more details, if possible.

Are they aware of (do they remember?) their mission from the very beginning? do they just act spontaneously to accomplish their role all their life long? or perhaps do they awaken at a certain time and find their purpose as light bearers? Is there any typical situation on this or each case is a particular one? What signs do make them understand they are light bearers?

Thanks!

TISS

[Adrienne]

Dear Sparrow,

A very inspirational post ! Interesting as I was reading this post, and this has happened before with some of your other posts too... I sensed a lightness of being, a higher vibrational energy shining thru. Feeling a definite sense of connection and understanding, if this makes any sense ?

with love & appreciation of the insights you share ~

Dream Angel xx

[Internal Queries]

interesting. my gestalt is seeking to manifest a standard bearer, a Self indicating avatar.

[moke64916]

Great thread. I enjoyed reading it. I have a question though. How did you get that on a post? All I know how to do is use a website link. How do you get a picture on a thread?

[Tiss]

If I understood well your question, the picture is not at SF, it is located in another server.

For example an images server, Image Shack, Picasa, or any other. If you want to post the image here, you get there the URL code to embed and you need to use the icon "image." It runs a script that prompts you to place the image URL, so you paste the code here, and voila.

TISS

[Caretaker]

One of the best definitions that I've seen to describe, as you say, the Light bearers. Very well written. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Tiss]

Such reading inspires me to action.


It would be great for our life here and for our legacy if everyone of us could take from the chart just one idea, and could get the strength to put it into practice. I mean, to become from our humble role a powerful Light Bearer.


Love and... of course light for all, :tongue:
TISS

[moke64916]

I just got done reading in the book "The New Earth" of what you just wrote. I've seen your posts. You seem to be one of these light carriers. You speak a lot of truth. Great thread.

[Spirit Guide Sparrow]

☆•°☆ This chart represents a reference of principle; a set of standards to gravitate towards for all who aspire to bare the name of love, in light of their deeds and actions. It is a message to those who would identify their inherent responsibility within the cosmic race to which they are intricately bound in destiny. It is a key for they who would see themselves not as divided individuals, but as united beacons of hope which resonate a singular purpose of Self-empowerment across the face of the Earth. It is a map that leads to many places, weaving bridges between the body, soul and sacred spirit.

All are light bearers; none are excluded from the tapestry of life. All things are of the light, regardless of the labels we condition them to. Such prestige of purpose is not reserved for the few who would deem themselves enlightened, but is an awareness which awaits discovery within us all.

YOU are the light bearers. You are tasked with the privilege, at this time, to make a stand out of shadow, to illuminate the world to your self-discovered qualities, to be the example for those who would seek themselves through you, with you and as a sacred part of you. Be the standard to all whom you meet, that they may be lead inward to discover their own role within, and of the future of humanity. ☆•°☆

-Sparrow

[gentledove]

All are light bearers; none are excluded from the tapestry of life. All things are of the light, regardless of the labels we condition them to. Such prestige of purpose is not reserved for the few who would deem themselves enlightened, but is an awareness which awaits discovery within us all.

YOU are the light bearers. You are tasked with the privilege, at this time, to make a stand out of shadow, to illuminate the world to your self-discovered qualities, to be the example for those who would seek themselves through you, with you and as a sacred part of you. Be the standard to all whom you meet, that they may be lead inward to discover their own role within, and of the future of humanity. ☆•°☆


I am so glad you wrote this because I was thinking the same thing!

[Cal]

What a wonderful and inspiring topic! :hug3: Very resonate indeed.

I missed this topic and chart when it was originally posted in Oct 2010. The wonder of synchronicity is amazing, not just for finding it but for the meaning it carries in conjunction with something else just discovered while researching another topic that resonated similarly. The topic I researched was yesterday Pleiadian, whom if what I found is true, apparently share a similar vision or message. This brings up another potential controversial question about Pleiadians but I'm not sure if the question and answer process is best suited for this thread or the Common Questions About Life thread, since that one what was just rekindled with more discussion about human origin, design and purpose - and interspecies intervention.

Love and light,
Cal

[Adrienne]

What a wonderful and inspiring topic! :hug3: Very resonate indeed.

I missed this topic and chart when it was originally posted in Oct 2010.

oh my Cal ! I just went back to check and you are right, it was Oct. 2010.... where was I and how did I miss it ?

echoes on the " wonderful and inspiring topic " :smile:

Dream Angel xx

[Etu Malku]

Hmmm . . . . In Latin, from which the English word is derived, Lucifer means "light-bearer" (from the words lucem ferre).

[ces]

A thread seen only when we are individually ready. :D

[Adrienne]

I was just thinking about that Ces.

[moke64916]

In other words, "I am that I am."

[Cal]

21stCenturySchizoidMan:
Hmmm . . . . In Latin, from which the English word is derived, Lucifer means "light-bearer" (from the words lucem ferre).

Yes, true thank you. Here's the rest of that paragraph from Wikipedia in case anyone else was curious:

"Traditionally, Lucifer (English pronunciation: /ˈluːsɪfər, ljuːsɪfər/ (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fen.wikipedia.org%252525 2Fwiki%2525252FWikipedia%2525253AIPA_for_English)) is a name that in English (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fen.wikipedia.org%252525 2Fwiki%2525252FEnglish_language) generally refers to the devil (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fen.wikipedia.org%252525 2Fwiki%2525252FDevil) before being cast from heaven, although this is not the original meaning of the term. In Latin (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fen.wikipedia.org%252525 2Fwiki%2525252FLatin), from which the English word is derived, Lucifer means "light-bearer" (from the words lucem ferre). It was the name given to the dawn appearance of the planet Venus (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fen.wikipedia.org%252525 2Fwiki%2525252FVenus), which heralds daylight. For this meaning, English generally uses the names "Morning Star" or "Day Star", and rarely "Lucifer"."


Love and light,
Cal

[seahorse]

So, who benefits for making people afraid of the Light Bearer i wonder....:wink:

[Internal Queries]

So, who benefits for making people afraid of the Light Bearer i wonder....:wink:


i Love you, seahorse.

[Etu Malku]

So, who benefits for making people afraid of the Light Bearer i wonder....:wink:Who is afraid and who is making them afraid?

[Internal Queries]

Who is afraid and who is making them afraid?


fear is a useful tool of manipulation. it can be used to justify the waging of for profit wars. it can used to keep the milling masses quietly acquiescent despite injustice and oppression. it can be used to sell products (tap or create an insecurity and then sell a product that is touted to cure the illusionary source of the insecurity). fear can used to turn one group of people against another and the fearmonger reaps power benefits out of the ensuing chaos.

fear is a useful tool for politicians, salesmen, war profiteers, religious organizations and other assorted exploiters. creating fear of The Light Bearer ensures that he or she Who would bring freedom from fear is feared and rejected. ingenious, evil but ingenious.

[seahorse]

IQ, you ROCK !!:D
Some examples of fear :
You will never be succesful (unless you believe in me)
You will burn in the purgatory (unless you believe in me)
You will never find enlightenment (unless you believe in me)
You will never love (unless you believe in me)
You will never be loved (unless you believe in me)
Who's making people afraid ? Everyone who says "unless you believe in me"
Who's afraid ? All those people who choose to believe in anything else but themselves.

[Etu Malku]

fear is a useful tool of manipulation. it can be used to justify the waging of for profit wars. it can used to keep the milling masses quietly acquiescent despite injustice and oppression. it can be used to sell products (tap or create an insecurity and then sell a product that is touted to cure the illusionary source of the insecurity). fear can used to turn one group of people against another and the fearmonger reaps power benefits out of the ensuing chaos.

fear is a useful tool for politicians, salesmen, war profiteers, religious organizations and other assorted exploiters. creating fear of The Light Bearer ensures that he or she Who would bring freedom from fear is feared and rejected. ingenious, evil but ingenious.I didn't ask "what" fear was, but thanks. I was wondering where you got the assumption that someone was benefiting by making people afraid of the Light Bearer?

[seahorse]

Assumption? :confused:

[Etu Malku]

So, who benefits for making people afraid of the Light Bearer i wonder....:wink:Is this not an assumption?

[Etu Malku]

Actually, let me ask simply what is this Light Bearer / New Earth thing all about?

[Tiss]

A thread seen only when we are individually ready. :D
Exactly. :wink:

Concerning the comment about Lucifer, it is no use to advance on name's analogies that have nothing to do with the essence of the intention showed in the chart. I mean, with the essence of the light that Light Bearers can bring to the mankind through their attitudes and actions.

Light Bearer is a more general term which applies not to one but to the many who, in different ways, have the intention and can put in practice such intention for mankind's good.

Lucifer was called the Light Bearer because of the etymology of his name, and the legends, religions ad cultural atavism made us to be afraid of him. I can only see him as one who failed in his angelic mission, was unable to sustain his condition of Light Bearer.

I would like to point that in my opinion, there is nothing to be afraid of. What the chart speaks of has nothing to do with satanism, but with universal and cosmic principles that must be respected and promoted for development and evolution of spiritual beings, here, in Pleiades, or wherever.

In this sense, as I posted before and Sparrow seemed to agree, every one of us can take such flame and illuminate others with that light, through different deeds, and then become a Light Bearer.

To become a Light Bearer is, in my view, not a privilege, it should be seen as a duty of every human who reached certain degree of awareness of his/her purpose and transcendence, here and now in the Earth, and after our passage.

Concerning manipulation, in my view only can be manipulated those who allow it in their inner self, because they still need to learn how painful is manipulation and its consequences.

Love an Light,
TISS :hug:

[Silver]

Ty tiss & ces.

It's gotta be pretty clear that SGS wasn't in the least referring to anything but his own words and those words' intentions, which is far and away removed from the "Lucifer" in the Bible and SGS wasn't even referring to those things. FYI.

[Spirit Guide Sparrow]

☆¸.•°*”˜˜”*°•.¸☆•°☆¸.•°*”˜ ˜”*°•.¸☆•°☆¸.•°*”˜˜”*°•.¸ ☆

I return at this time, which is appropriate for you, that you may again be reminded.

Your human persona will wear many masks through which to fulfil many roles on Earth.

There are many roles which you choose to play with your human persona, and many roles which are placed upon you by those who would seek to define you in their own lives.

Do not seek to define yourself through the roles you play, but embrace your Self through the spirit in which you fulfil such roles.

Personify your Self not by the roles you play, but through the orchestration of the standards you portray within such roles.

Behind every mask there is the light bearer. There is a pure untarnished eternal loving spirit untouched by the naive playfulness of its human creation. Such is the creation left not without its grace, that it can be touched by the essence of its pure source. We may know of those touched by this source, not by any given name, role or persona of the human vehicle, but through the standards of distinction personified through the orchestration of such vehicles. It matters not through what means you create your flame, only the manner in which you be the light that others may see out of shadow.

Shine your light, personify your essence, realize your most inherent sacred divine standards that represent the highest and grandest vision of who you are. This means not to strive to be something you clearly are not, but to endeavour to be more clear in what you realize yourself to already be. You need not change who you are to be a light bearer, for you are inherently, and truly beautiful. You need only redefine the standards through which you personify that beauty.

Shine a light on who you truly are, and who you truly are will illuminate who we all are.

-Sparrow

[Gregatha]

Dearest Sparrow, i do not have all the answers, and yet i have no question to ask.

I would just like to say i love you Dear Sparrow.:hug:

[Spirit Guide Sparrow]

Dearest Sparrow, i do not have all the answers, and yet i have no question to ask.

I would just like to say i love you Dear Sparrow.:hug:
I too do not have all the answers, yet I have no questions to ask either. Let us then share and rejoice in what we do know, and let the universe reveal all that which we do not.

May your light play many roles to many lives, and touch many hearts in many ways.
-Sparrow

[Floatsy]

Light Bearers..

[Spirit Guide Sparrow]

Light Bearers..

Indeed.

Are you a light bearer Floatsy?

-Sparrow

[Floatsy]

Indeed.

Are you a light bearer Floatsy?

-Sparrow

As you say, everyone is a Light Bearer, Sparrow.

Although I presume each individual's capacity to discern, manifest, uphold and strength/clarity of Light may differ at times..

And yet again - each has unmitigated potential and status as a Genuine Light Bearer.

Namaste,
floatzy

[Mr Interesting]

I know when I was much younger, maybe even still in my teens, I made a waistcoat of sorts out of very heavy Indian cotton, great fat fingers of twirled raw cotton bound together very simply by cross threads which made it actually quite difficult to sew into garments but not totally un-doable... and then on it's back I sewed, in cut out coloured leathers, a hand holding a torch up and over that was K.o. T. F. which meant Keepers of the Flame. or it might have been Keeper of the Flame... I don't know, I can't even remember what it was that had me doing such.

But I do know that I somehow saw things for what they were; that I trusted, to the extent I knew, that how I saw things was an interpretation I could understand. Then came the matter of fitting my way of seeing into society simply because I somehow understood that that was how things were done.

And many attempts were made to have society fit me and my ideas and many failures happened but each time was less destructive and far less worrying as I figured out there was stuff going on around me I couldn't see but I could feel.

One of my favourites was when I'd managed to get a warehouse in the city centre and built a house in it over the course of about three years and meanwhile in the vicinity a few others did so too and we all had a great time playing tribal as the commercial world did it's stuff around us. But then my landlord, a cherishable old Chinese fellow who used to drop in quite often to enjoy the kids and general mayhem of it all, decided it was time for me to move on.

I had so much collected art materials there was no way it would all be moved so I decided to build a huge artwork out on the road out front and rang the TV people so they could come film me being precocious and the back story being I could get on TV and ask for another warehouse to be granted to me... but then the next morning I woke up to find my huge artwork completely gone and then a neighbour wandered over and told me the council workers had arrived before daybreak with trucks and picked up the whole lot!

Initially I thought dang nab it, no TV and rescue, but then I realised all of my stuff had disappeared quite miraculously and I didn't have to pay anyone to do so... great.

So I then filled my little car with my clothes, my tools and my books and left the front seat free for my pregnant cat and as I left the clouds came in and it started raining quite heavily... which kinda depressed me.

But then I drove off and got to the top of the hill and was waiting for the lights to change when suddenly the clouds cleared, the rain stopped and the sun came blazoning through the opening blue and right into my car! Absolutely Beautiful... and as suddenly as it happened the clouds came together again and in came the rain but it was a message for me to keep that flame glowing!

And later in the day it happened again after I dropped stuff at my Mum's place and was ferrying a few bit's, which wouldn't fit at Mum's, back to the old family home which my brother now had in the suburb where I spent my formative years... and it was right on the crossroads of one suburb and the next, the rain stopped just as suddenly and the clouds parted and the sun came blazing into the car!

[Floatsy]

Mr Interesting!!!! :hug2: :hug:

*goes back to read post*

[Floatsy]

Fortune favors the Brave.

[Spirit Guide Sparrow]

As you say, everyone is a Light Bearer, Sparrow.

Glad you understood the message.

Although I presume each individual's capacity to discern, manifest, uphold and strength/clarity of Light may differ at times..

The path of the light bearer is never a straight line, even for the best of them.

And yet again - each has unmitigated potential and status as a Genuine Light Bearer.

Each has the power of their own intention.

-Sparrow

[Spirit Guide Sparrow]

I know when I was much younger, maybe even still in my teens, I made a waistcoat of sorts out of very heavy Indian cotton, great fat fingers of twirled raw cotton bound together very simply by cross threads which made it actually quite difficult to sew into garments but not totally un-doable... and then on it's back I sewed, in cut out coloured leathers, a hand holding a torch up and over that was K.o. T. F. which meant Keepers of the Flame. or it might have been Keeper of the Flame... I don't know, I can't even remember what it was that had me doing such.

But I do know that I somehow saw things for what they were; that I trusted, to the extent I knew, that how I saw things was an interpretation I could understand. Then came the matter of fitting my way of seeing into society simply because I somehow understood that that was how things were done.

And many attempts were made to have society fit me and my ideas and many failures happened but each time was less destructive and far less worrying as I figured out there was stuff going on around me I couldn't see but I could feel.

One of my favourites was when I'd managed to get a warehouse in the city centre and built a house in it over the course of about three years and meanwhile in the vicinity a few others did so too and we all had a great time playing tribal as the commercial world did it's stuff around us. But then my landlord, a cherishable old Chinese fellow who used to drop in quite often to enjoy the kids and general mayhem of it all, decided it was time for me to move on.

I had so much collected art materials there was no way it would all be moved so I decided to build a huge artwork out on the road out front and rang the TV people so they could come film me being precocious and the back story being I could get on TV and ask for another warehouse to be granted to me... but then the next morning I woke up to find my huge artwork completely gone and then a neighbour wandered over and told me the council workers had arrived before daybreak with trucks and picked up the whole lot!

Initially I thought dang nab it, no TV and rescue, but then I realised all of my stuff had disappeared quite miraculously and I didn't have to pay anyone to do so... great.

So I then filled my little car with my clothes, my tools and my books and left the front seat free for my pregnant cat and as I left the clouds came in and it started raining quite heavily... which kinda depressed me.

But then I drove off and got to the top of the hill and was waiting for the lights to change when suddenly the clouds cleared, the rain stopped and the sun came blazoning through the opening blue and right into my car! Absolutely Beautiful... and as suddenly as it happened the clouds came together again and in came the rain but it was a message for me to keep that flame glowing!

And later in the day it happened again after I dropped stuff at my Mum's place and was ferrying a few bit's, which wouldn't fit at Mum's, back to the old family home which my brother now had in the suburb where I spent my formative years... and it was right on the crossroads of one suburb and the next, the rain stopped just as suddenly and the clouds parted and the sun came blazing into the car!
And the flame endures in its intricate weaving ritual through to this very day, as it continues to remind you how far you have come, and how far there is yet to explore.

-Sparrow

[Mr Interesting]

Possibly Floatsy... possibly.

Maybe it's more like fortune favours the confused who despite that go out and willingly do something, anything that even makes the slightest sense.

Even yesterday I kinda saw something to do as a next step to what I feel is somehow important. I've just done several weeks where I had a course, as in stuff got done, which I didn't understand as useful in concrete terms but kinda led me into it.

Then I was utterly confused as to where to go next and sort of wandered about wondering without any real sense but got some stuff done on the edges but then yesterday I saw a course forward as in building a garden shed, it seemed the obvious next step so I contrived to get money to buy a few bit's that I didn't have and then when I was out buying those I went looking to obtain a particular material which was abundant and free and makes a very good roofing material... but there was none there as they'd, in the interim between me finding it years ago and taking as much as I could and then leaving it lying about to see how tough it was and whether, as it was a plastic, it would break down in the sun... and it eventually proved useful after this period of waiting to see what happens... see? It get's confusing, and anyways... in the interim this place couldn'y keep the material themselves so had been throwing it in the bin for landfill.

But at the same place there was another business, which in the midst of a supposed housing crisis, was completely full of sugared water in bottles stacked to the ceilings, which were very high, and it suddenly occurred to me that some of this discarded sheeting left outside to get wet was just what I needed for another project... and indeed there where materials all over the place where it occurred to me that a recycling centre should be sorted whereby all these building materials could be salvaged... for our housing crisis... Wow, even more confusing.

So I ended up bringing home even more stuff but thank god I'm actually making buildings again even though there'll all completely illegal and the risk seems to be getting greater that what I might be doing is starting to risk the security even of my nearest and dearest.

For me it's about that kinda stuff. That's it's not really bravery at all but about somehow going into the absolute confusion of the big huge mess and almost entirely simply just tidying up what you can... because in this weird and obtuse way there isn't actually a mess at all.

As well I'm working up to a fire in the backyard... it's been a while since the last one, and you supposedly need permits but I just make sure I get them nice and hot so they're smokeless, I've got heaps of wood I just can't keep or salvage and taking it to a dump is just really costly these days... so I have my own laws I follow and though the risk of being caught out and held to the account outside of me which thinks such things are accountable I really have no choice but to do what needs done.

Even writing all this seems risky... I'm an idiot, excuse me please.

[Floatsy]

... I'm an idiot, excuse me please.

Thank you very much, Mr Interesting. I hope it is all going well. Please don't say these words though, nothing could be further from the truth - at least in my eyes and heart mind. Thank you again. Namaste.

[Floatsy]

And the flame endures in its intricate weaving ritual through to this very day, as it continues to remind you how far you have come, and how far there is yet to explore.

-Sparrow

Sparrow, if prayers are true, may we please pray together for all the kind hearts of this world to be safe and true, well and nourished, protected and loved, to know the Truth of God in their lives, as living truth so that we all may enjoy the Beauty that is right before our eyes and lives Now.

Namaste.

[Floatsy]

The path of the light bearer is never a straight line, even for the best of them.

Thank you, Spirit Guide Sparrow. :hug2:


Each has the power of their own intention.

-Sparrow

Intention...hm. It's like a little brick wall I have up when I read this word, but perhaps that is my own roadblock.

Thank you again.

Namaste,
floatzy

[naturesflow]

Possibly Floatsy... possibly.

Maybe it's more like fortune favours the confused who despite that go out and willingly do something, anything that even makes the slightest sense.

Even yesterday I kinda saw something to do as a next step to what I feel is somehow important. I've just done several weeks where I had a course, as in stuff got done, which I didn't understand as useful in concrete terms but kinda led me into it.

Then I was utterly confused as to where to go next and sort of wandered about wondering without any real sense but got some stuff done on the edges but then yesterday I saw a course forward as in building a garden shed, it seemed the obvious next step so I contrived to get money to buy a few bit's that I didn't have and then when I was out buying those I went looking to obtain a particular material which was abundant and free and makes a very good roofing material... but there was none there as they'd, in the interim between me finding it years ago and taking as much as I could and then leaving it lying about to see how tough it was and whether, as it was a plastic, it would break down in the sun... and it eventually proved useful after this period of waiting to see what happens... see? It get's confusing, and anyways... in the interim this place couldn'y keep the material themselves so had been throwing it in the bin for landfill.

But at the same place there was another business, which in the midst of a supposed housing crisis, was completely full of sugared water in bottles stacked to the ceilings, which were very high, and it suddenly occurred to me that some of this discarded sheeting left outside to get wet was just what I needed for another project... and indeed there where materials all over the place where it occurred to me that a recycling centre should be sorted whereby all these building materials could be salvaged... for our housing crisis... Wow, even more confusing.

So I ended up bringing home even more stuff but thank god I'm actually making buildings again even though there'll all completely illegal and the risk seems to be getting greater that what I might be doing is starting to risk the security even of my nearest and dearest.

For me it's about that kinda stuff. That's it's not really bravery at all but about somehow going into the absolute confusion of the big huge mess and almost entirely simply just tidying up what you can... because in this weird and obtuse way there isn't actually a mess at all.

As well I'm working up to a fire in the backyard... it's been a while since the last one, and you supposedly need permits but I just make sure I get them nice and hot so they're smokeless, I've got heaps of wood I just can't keep or salvage and taking it to a dump is just really costly these days... so I have my own laws I follow and though the risk of being caught out and held to the account outside of me which thinks such things are accountable I really have no choice but to do what needs done.

Even writing all this seems risky... I'm an idiot, excuse me please.


Lets be idiots together... did I just type that?..:D

(I have been taking some risks of late too. Its funny how this time around, they don't feel really that bad at all, when things just have to get done and you know it feels right, so you just do it )

[Mr Interesting]

Cheers Naturesflow... anytime!

It's not really that I'm idiot, Floatsy, at least compared to those around me, but that being a human is basically idiotic and I think it's really useful in not taking ourselves seriously.

It's also that I don't really know anything, especially now I'm started talking silently to my cat's and they answer back... they think all humans are idiots! So I keep my eyes and ears and heart open because I'm admittedly quite dumb, simply because those deep and insightful things I've been a party too very very often don't originate in me, the willingness to hear does though, the willingness to do does... the divine loser!

[naturesflow]

Cheers Naturesflow... anytime!

It's not really that I'm idiot, Floatsy, at least compared to those around me, but that being a human is basically idiotic and I think it's really useful in not taking ourselves seriously.

It's also that I don't really know anything, especially now I'm started talking silently to my cat's and they answer back... they think all humans are idiots! So I keep my eyes and ears and heart open because I'm admittedly quite dumb, simply because those deep and insightful things I've been a party too very very often don't originate in me, the willingness to hear does though, the willingness to do does... the divine loser!

I didn't think you meant it either. But being ok to be one sometimes brings out some nice surprises that you never might have imagined otherwise could transpire..... I think it comes back to embracing the *fool* in yourself. Until you let yourself land and be seen, feel and be ok with all that stuff related, lose a little of your own self preservation, let the shackles loosen up some, let the divine loser ignite, then naturally the divine loser listens to more. It works for me, I have noticed!!

[Floatsy]

It's not really that I'm idiot, Floatsy, at least compared to those around me, but that being a human is basically idiotic and I think it's really useful in not taking ourselves seriously.

It's also that I don't really know anything, especially now I'm started talking silently to my cat's and they answer back... they think all humans are idiots! So I keep my eyes and ears and heart open because I'm admittedly quite dumb, simply because those deep and insightful things I've been a party too very very often don't originate in me, the willingness to hear does though, the willingness to do does... the divine loser!

I see. You were being smart. :smile:

Cats talking back to you, sounds cool!

What is serious? Seeing another and caring, respect for others, is that too serious? I doubt it. But having fun, laughing, light and peaceful, happy, does this mean not serious on the flip side? Talk serious to me, man.

[Mr Interesting]

I found a flaw in my abilities last night which I quite enjoyed and might even be enthusiastic about.

I am about to build a second storey, well at least prepare for a second storey as it it somewhat ridiculous to take a roof off in the winter, and in doing so I realised the amount of structural work that still needs to go into holding up this eventual rising into the airs above.

My initial work, sixteen years ago, made me build for compressive strength in that the extra weight would be bearing down and so as I rebuilt the two side walls of this then broken down garage I put in extra uprights to uphold that which was to come eventually.

But now I find I didn't consider bending which is about the eventual second storey having sideways force applied and resisting that set of forces in the ground floor walls... so the two walls that support the upper storey need some form of structure that keeps the two outside weight bearing walls parallel and resistant to sideways force.

I had thought I had the problem covered but upon taking out yet another wall on the ground storey I saw in myself this flaw because it became clear my imaginings of what might be needed weren't in fact needed at all but I only saw this once the space was cleared.

It's not so much a flaw as it might be an ignorance as in the past the hardest part of being commissioned to do things is that most people are woefully inadequate in being able to imagine what might be and even if drawings are provided it often isn't until something is actually done and almost finished that they can see whether they do want it or not or even even close to what they didn't actually know they wanted.

So I saw this in myself, that which has always been problematic in others, I still have an inkling of that inadequacy in myself. I needed to take a wall down and see an empty space before I knew it didn't actually need to be there as a bracing entity.

And this is very important to me because if my life is anything it is to play within the difference between spatial imaginings and bringing such into concrete reality and for me it is engineering and it's seems not only that I have these spatial abilities but a deep intuitive understanding of engineering principles and so finding a lack within myself, a weak point, is almost the most wonderful thing I can find. This then is me being serious... seriously into what keeps me busy during the day... but this place, spiritual forums, is where I wake up. It's where I'm not serious at all, it's, I suppose, about setting my day up to play.

[Floatsy]

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