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Lulu
09-07-2012, 10:18 PM
I was driving home one day with my mom - it was late afternoon on a mild spring day. We were driving along the same stretch of highway we had driven on a million times before. Our exit was next, just around the bend. It was a typical day with typical traffic - That is, until we reached the bend. The highway (at that point) was a total of six lanes - three on each side with a concrete divider in the centre. We were in the furthest lane to the right, as just after the bend a fourth lane opened (exit lane), which we were to take. There was a transport truck driving in front of us, a few car lengths ahead. There were no cars beside us, but there were several in front of the transport truck.

As we all entered the bend, a red car came zipping by - at least 30 km/h over the speed limit... at least. The red car was in the lane furthest to the left as it flew past us and then flew past the transport truck. I lost sight of it as it passed the transport truck. Suddenly, in the middle of the bend, the transport truck slammed on its breaks... then I caught sight of the red car again, but only for a split second. It had cut across two lanes of highway traffic to make it to the exit lane at its excessive speed. It had cut off one car, which, in turn, swerved and hit another car - this happened in front of the transport truck. As the transport truck slammed on its breaks to avoid the accident in front of it, it began to jackknife... but it was too late... it was too close to the cars ahead of it and it too joined the accident.

A split second decision by my mother to try to avoid the accident unfolding ahead led us on to the the shoulder. If we could ride the shoulder for the final few metres of the bend, we could make it to the exit lane and avoid the accident. Unfortunately, the accident made its way onto the shoulder, directly in front of us. We couldn't avoid it. We hit another car head on, which, in turn, shot us into the centre lane. As we reached the centre lane, another car coming from behind (trying to avoid the accident on the shoulder) slammed into us and once again shot us from our spot. We ended up coming to rest by the hand of the concrete divider in the centre of the highway.

I woke up after an unknown amount of time. My whole body ached - Stinging, crushing, excruciating pain. I could barely see though the blood pouring down my face. I looked over at my mom. Her head was resting on the steering wheel, her eyes closed. I tried to call for her, but I couldn't catch my breath. I tried to reach for her, but I could barely life my arm - through all of this, though, I knew she was dead. As I struggled to stay conscious, I could hear all of the commotion going on outside of the car - the sound of a continuous car horn (maybe another person's head had come to rest on their steering wheel), people screaming, people crying, people calling for help. I thought about how I didn't want to die. I don't want to die.

Through all of the commotion, no one had noticed that our car had caught fire... I couldn't escape the car and I couldn't scream, nor move. I was stuck. In what felt like seconds, the car erupted into flames. I felt everything. I felt myself burn. I felt my consciousness slipping away. My field of vision narrowed and narrowed and narrowed, until there was nothing. I died. I felt myself die - And then I woke up in my bed. I could smell something burning. Panicked, I jumped out of bed and checked to see if anything was, in fact, burning, but nothing was. It had all been a horrible and extremely vivid dream. Or had it?

I couldn't shake the dream. I couldn't shake this 'feeling' I had that something was different. Not anything noticeable... not one thing in particular... just... everything. A couple of months later, I was hanging around the internet before a lecture at school. I happened upon an experience a person felt like sharing - he started off his story with,"I think I died yesterday..." intrigued, I read on. His experience was eerily similar to mine - it involved a car accident, as well. Only, he did not wake up in his bed, instead, a split second after getting into an accident at an intersection, he found himself safely driving several metres ahead of the accident. Snap. Just like that.

Shocked by this, I decided to search for any other stories like ours... and I found a lot. Not all involved car accidents, or accidents in general. Not all were traumatic events. Some people described simply going to bed and waking up to a different life than the one they had before they went to sleep. Sometimes even tangible things were different - Bed clothes, furniture, and even jobs. There are those who experienced simple 'slips,' such as the looping, slowing, or quickening time. There are those who adamantly claim that certain countries are 'out of place' on world maps. There are even those who claim to have woken up in a different time altogether. Of course, there is really no way to prove any of this... all of these experiences are subjective. My mother has no memory of being in a car accident, just as the majority of the world agrees that all of the countries are in the right place on the world map. So what is really going on here?

In quantum mechanics, there exist several theories that include the existence of parallel universes...

The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics states that an object exists in all of its possible states at once (coherent superposition). It is only when we observe the object that it chooses a single state (the one that we observe). This is demonstrated by the famous thought experiment, 'Schrödinger's cat,' as well as the Double-Slit experiment (amongst others). The Copenhagen interpretation is dependent on the observer (you).

The Many-Worlds interpretation states that, for every single possible outcome to an action, the world will literally split into another copy of itself (decohesion). By doing this, each possible outcome will exist in its own world, where, you guessed it, each possible outcome will occur. However, unlike the Copenhagen interpretation, which is dependent on the observer, the Many-Worlds interpretation is independent of the observer. For example, if I was shot in the head and survived in one world, I would die in the other (of the same gun shot wound) - but I would forever remain unaware of my parallel self, the one who died (much like the thought experiment, Quantum Suicide). The Many-Worlds interpretation goes against Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, which states that we are able to influence the outcome of an event, simply by observing it. Even more interesting, in the Many-Worlds interpretation, time is not linear - it does not exist in a coherent motion. Instead, time can be thought of as 'branching' in every possible direction (due to every possible outcome).

The Many-Minds interpretation builds on the Many-Worlds interpretation to bring just that, the mind of the observer, into the equation.

Of course, these are only a few examples, explained in very, very brief detail - Discussing each and every one in proper detail in a single post on an internet forum would not do any of them justice. But how do they tie into 'reality slips?' They propose the existence of parallel universes. Now, 'reality slips' are called all kinds of things - 'time skips,' 'timeline shifts,' 'time jumps,' and so on. I just stick with 'reality shifts' for the sake of simplicity. Regardless, each is unique; each is similar - but all involve a person being 'thrown' into an alternate reality, an alternate timeline, whether intentional or not. Now, there are obvious problems with relating 'reality slips' to the above examples, mainly due to the observer. However, none are fact (yet) so anything is possible.

These experiences could also be a construct of the mind. I posted this in another thread, but I'll use it again as an example,

Snap your fingers... but watch your fingers as they snap.


I bet you heard the snap at the exact same moment you saw the snap... yes?


In reality, your auditory system processes information faster than your visual system. You actually heard the snap before you saw it... Your brain, in this case, has 'edited' the events to make them appear simultaneous. Your brain does this all of the time... it edits/synchronizes incoming signals which are processed at different speeds.

It's all a matter of perception.
Or,
construct.

Your mind constructs/fills in gaps all of the time. The world as it is and the world as you perceive it are two very different things. It is possible that when we experience such things as 'reality slips,' that they are simply another trick of the mind - And this is only scratching the surface of (what we currently know about) the human mind.

Did I die in a car crash, only to wake up in another timeline? It was more than likely just a dream - but I can't say for certain and therefore I must consider all possibilities. Whatever it was, it certainly stuck with me - and it has stuck with me enough to lead me on a quest to find answers. It has also stuck with me enough to feel extremely uneasy every single time I drive that same stretch of highway. I also can't discount other people's experiences with the subject at hand. One only has to google to find numerous stories of people's personal experiences.

Have any of you ever experienced a 'reality shift?'

Henri77
10-07-2012, 02:43 PM
I've been reading a book on healing that involves reality shifts.
"The Physics of Miracles"

"Impossible" changes in physiology brought abut through shifts in perception.
The writer (a chiropractor) also brings in quantum ideas but has no idea what actually causes-enables. these effects, that he teaches. Including rewriting the past-present of a specific event-injury.

That's a remarkable-scary story and I won't guess at the possibilities, as you certainly already have.

The closest thing I'd experienced were vivid dreams of living with my wife for a year after she died... they felt like valid memories , indistinguishable from "true" memories.
The same thing happened with my 2nd wife after we divorced... our relationship continued in vivid dreams where she visited/stayed with me for varied periods.

Haven't yet experienced "waking" experiences of time-reality shifts, other than occasionally objects that disappeared, only to reappear at a later date.
But like you, I've heard a few stories.

Lulu
10-07-2012, 03:56 PM
they felt like valid memories , indistinguishable from "true" memories.
And that's exactly how I explain it... the only way I can explain it. As far as my memory is concerned (take that for what it's worth, as we know our memories are far from 'accurate'), I was in a car accident, I died, and then I woke up in my bed. There was no separation of time between the 'events.' I do not remember 'living' a normal day - going to sleep, dreaming of the accident, and then waking up - I remember the day of the accident (all of the events that led up to it), being in the accident (time slowed down, probably due to adrenaline), and then dying. After dying, I 'woke up' again - only somewhere different (different, as in, not the same place the accident occurred). As far as my mind is concerned, the accident actually happened. After that, my world felt different, somehow. It's so hard to explain, but I think you understand.

I only bring quantum mechanics into the picture because that is how my mind 'works...' that is what I understand, and, through things like that, I am able to (attempt to) make sense of things - But, it's good to hear that there are others out there who are also trying to explain occurrences like these. They are just so strange.

It's interesting that you have experienced objects disappearing/reappearing - a lot of the stories I have read of others experiences involved tangible things - even people. Some people have claimed to wake up to a different spouse. Of course, they were only different to that person (subjective), so there's no way (as of yet) to validate these experiences.

Thanks for sharing your stories of your wives... who knows, maybe you were slipping in and out of different timelines. We can't say for sure, but, as it stands right now, anything is possible.

I think my interest in this topic (and my own experience) is slowly becoming an obsession lol.

Henri77
10-07-2012, 09:11 PM
Those 'memory/dream" experiences I mentioned , were frequently obscured and only by reflecting did I pull them into consciousness.... and i really couldn't discern any qualitative difference from "real" remembered events.

However they didn't fit the timeline of verifiable reality so I know they were either parallel universe experiences, or astral experiences, to complete "unfinished business".

I dream quite a lot , and no dream experiences had the emotional authenticity these things did. Much iike some things folks report that you mention.

Regarding your comments:

Rationality may come up with a useful analogy to grab on to, but these things are
part of a reality-dimension beyond rational grasp. IMO.

Only by stepping out of logical thought can we likely glimpse the answer in our current stage of development...the heart can grasp things mind cannot.
We've discussed the greys and their ability to navigate other dimensions.

I suspect miltidimensional beings can perceive the totality of this reality, that to us appears fragmented.

These things have been likely heard of before, but seem more "common"these days.

Either folks are finally talking about these experiences that they kept to themselves. OR
We are gradually slipping into the 4th dimension and these events are simply becoming more common.

Another phenomena to consider... the 100th monkey effect.
Our consensus reality is slowly changing, and we are possibly acknowledging
phenomena we would formerly write off as imagination, hallucination or a bad dream... with no further thought.

I feel it's a bit of both, a changing consensus reality that allows consciousness to consider such things as more than "dreams', as well as a planetary-consciousness shift that allows "impossible" phenomena to occur more readily.



It'll be interesting to see what others contribute... but that's about the extent of my speculation.

Lulu
10-07-2012, 11:29 PM
I doubt there will be many responses... usually, when people see a rather large post (online), they'll take a quick glance and move on (especially if nothing jumps out at them)... we're all guilty of it, from time to time. I actually trimmed my post down... this is the 'lite' version lol. I didn't present everything I could have (should have, maybe).

I have (quite obviously) researched this topic to a great extent since my apparent 'death' - but I am still hoping to hear more experiences and different points of view. I am especially interested to know if anyone else has experienced their own death, as I (apparently) did.

It's an odd feeling - being able to walk around with the knowledge of exactly what it feels like to die in a horrible, horrible car crash lol.

nama_adrift
11-07-2012, 05:20 PM
i have had a small things that could fit this happen to me every so often. they are small details, but i notice them. the most recent one and one that left me scratching my head happened a couple of months ago when i was out running after work. there is a route i take and when i go around 4 times it is 3 miles. i went around 4 times, and all four times there was an open half eaten tuna can (quite a large one) in someone's driveway.

for my cool down lap i got my dog and went around with her. i remember that when i started to get close to the tuna can i thought ok gonna have to choke up on the leash and make sure she doesnt get into the tuna can. then we passed the house and there was no tuna can. i thought, hmm... ok maybe it was the wrong house but i kept going and there was no tuna.

i run pretty late at night (mid night-ish) so there wasnt anyone out, but at the time i figured ok someone probably brought it in. the next morning i went running again, this time before work, and the tuna can was back. it was in the exact same spot and it looked like it had been there all night and morning.

i realize it is possible that someone could have put the tuna can back out, but it was in the exact same spot and really did look like it had been out all night. it was also one of those moments when it just felt weird. i don't always get that but sometimes i just get this "feeling".

another odd thing like this that has happened to me is that i remember having a conversation with someone about something, but then realize later that i never did have that particular conversation. it isn't ever about anything big, just small details. i used to just say oh well i must have dreamt it, but i don't remember dreaming it. and i find myself totally convinced i had the conversation until, through talking to the person (usually), i find that i never did. other things include: finding things in strange places that they couldn't possibly be, repeated deja vu (had an art class a few years ago that often seemed like just and hour and a half of deja vu for several of the classes), etc

i realize that these all have other explanations, and for most of the time when they occur, i believe another explanation fits, but, like i mentioned, i have had some that just feel different.

002 Cents
11-07-2012, 05:29 PM
Very interesting experience.

Someone referred me to this thread when I had posted about a near collision with a train that left me with the feeling, that in another dimension I never cleared those tracks. Here is the link if you are interested: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38390

I love the very scientific route you take in your explanation.

Lulu
11-07-2012, 07:31 PM
i realize that these all have other explanations, and for most of the time when they occur, i believe another explanation fits, but, like i mentioned, i have had some that just feel different.
I have tried to explain away my situation a million different ways - I even turned to my trusted friend, science, to 'slap some sense' back into me... all my trusted friend could tell me was that it is a possibility that I did, in fact, die in a car crash and then proceed to snap into another 'timeline' (or whatever one prefers to call it). As it currently stands, all explanations remain a possibility... it's quite an unsettling feeling! I was well aware of all of these theories (including the ones that did not 'make the cut' in my OP) beforehand, and am quite well versed in quantum mechanics (it is an area of study of mine - but I am still only a student and have much more to learn) but, until this experience, I never really grasped what the implications would be if any of them were, indeed, verified.

I couldn't help but chuckle a little at the tuna can... I could almost picture your face as it 'reappeared.'

I know what you mean about the 'feeling...' it's a feeling that I have not been able to shake.

Thank you so much for your reply!

Lulu
11-07-2012, 07:40 PM
Very interesting experience.

Someone referred me to this thread when I had posted about a near collision with a train that left me with the feeling, that in another dimension I never cleared those tracks. Here is the link if you are interested: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38390 (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D38390)

I love the very scientific route you take in your explanation.

Oh my goodness - I'm glad you are ok! I'll definitely head over to your thread. Crazy that we would both post on a similar topic, with such similar experiences, and post those experiences around the same time!

And I'm glad you liked my approach... I can only speak from what I know best. I think that's why I felt compelled to share my story... it would be quite helpful to hear similar experiences, only told from a different point of view/perception.

Many thanks :smile:

Nebulous
11-07-2012, 07:50 PM
Yes, shifts happen all the time. Reality is not a stable, linear thing like people often think of it. It is constantly in flux. Time-space is never stable - there are gaps that form and close (even quantum physics speaks about this) at all times. Some bigger than others.

I've had personal experience with it more than I prefer to discuss in depth. But I will tell one of my stories in brief.

There was a very traumatic series of events going on in my life. Through a steady string of misfortune, I found myself broke (and threatened with being penniless), without transportation, on the verge of homelessness and with a breaking relationship, all far away from any friends or family or anyone who could help or be there for me - and surrounded by people who were highly critical, rude, and judgmental. My health took a dramatic decline and I nearly died, and then came a frivolous false lawsuit from someone who was trying to scam me out of money while I was down.

As you can imagine, I was desperate.

During this time, there seemed to be no hope. I began to contemplate suicide very heavily. After a particularly terrible argument with my boyfriend at the time, he walked out of the house, and I had this distinct feeling I would never see him again.

Something happened to me.

I was sobbing, pacing the house, breaking inside. I wanted to just go to the nearby beach and drown myself and end this whole hopeless mess. As something in me broke, I lunged for the door and walked out of the house and into the street, toward the beach. It was late at night, with nobody but me and the street lights in a nice quiet neighborhood. I clutched myself against the cold and just kept walking - and suddenly things got very weird.

All I remember is things swaying. Warping. Everything around me became distorted and I felt as though I were a ghost, or a dream, wandering in the night...everything had a dream-like, misty quality to it, and it was as though nothing acknowledged my presence. Everything was horribly cold, this bone-deep chill that couldn't be warmed, and I started feeling this terrible need to find my boyfriend, no matter what. Everything was hushed and muted around me, colors and shapes distorted and warped, and everything deathly quiet. I didn't feel my legs moving me, hardly felt anything at all...I just pushed forward in this dream-like walk along the street.

I went to the beach. I crossed the street and cars didn't seem to acknowledge me - I remember dashing past one of them and feeling like it was weird that I didn't get hit.

I arrived at the beach and stood along the sidewalk. And I hugged myself, shaking, and called out for my boyfriend over and over. I didn't know if he'd be there - but I was SURE he was, for some reason.

I spotted him walking away from the beach, and he stopped dead in his tracks and stared at me from the distance in shock. He walked up slowly and I grabbed and hugged him, and he was tense, almost shaking. We sat on a bench and I told him I loved him and I just wanted us to get through all this together....and he just kept staring at me in shock.

Finally he asked me: "Did you go down into the beach? Did you walk on the sand?"

I said "No...of course not. Why?"

He told me that he'd seen a single set of foot prints leading to the water that were my size. He followed them in a panic - and had found me, floating, dead on the water's surface. I had walked into the water and gotten pulled under, drowning myself.

When he found me, he was (understandably) overwhelmed, and said only one thing in a short, furious growl: No!

And when he'd finally walked up the beach again, shocked and grieving and trying to figure out what to do now that I was dead - there I was calling out for him. I had no memory of any suicide, and to this day I do not have any memory of it whatsoever. But I was there, my body floating in the water - and then, I was standing on the beach. A sudden "shift" in reality.

My best guess is that the weird sensations I was going through as I walked around must have been some kind of...altered reality, or something, perhaps I WAS some kind of ghost - we simply don't know. All we know is that he saw my dead body - I felt like I was wandering in dreamy limbo - and then I just was there, standing there waiting for him and perfectly alive. Perhaps this was one of those shifts - as a gap in reality seemed to form, warping and distorting things temporarily, perhaps merging two realities for a few moments...and then close, onto this reality...the one where I did not die, I simply walked to the beach to make things right with him.

Truth is simply much, much stranger than fiction. That's all there is to it.

Lulu
11-07-2012, 08:07 PM
Nebulous... WOW! What an experience. As I usually am with your posts, I found myself completely engrossed in your story. I am so sorry to hear that you went through any kind of pain, but I am very glad that you are still 'here' (wherever 'here' is).

It is so interesting that you were able to 'witness' your own shift... when I 'died,' everything went black and in (what felt like) nanoseconds, I awoke in a panic. I was 'conscious' the whole time, but it just happened so quickly I had no time to absorb any of it... I was beyond confused.

Thank you so much for sharing your experience.

Truth is simply much, much stranger than fiction. That's all there is to it.
Whenever anyone asks me (and they do all of the time) why it is I prefer nonfiction books over fiction, that is always my answer.

Man, I love this world - It's fascinating!

Nebulous
11-07-2012, 09:02 PM
Nebulous... WOW! What an experience. As I usually am with your posts, I found myself completely engrossed in your story. I am so sorry to hear that you went through any kind of pain, but I am very glad that you are still 'here' (wherever 'here' is).

It is so interesting that you were able to 'witness' your own shift... when I 'died,' everything went black and in (what felt like) nanoseconds, I awoke in a panic. I was 'conscious' the whole time, but it just happened so quickly I had no time to absorb any of it... I was beyond confused.

Thank you so much for sharing your experience.


Whenever anyone asks me (and they do all of the time) why it is I prefer nonfiction books over fiction, that is always my answer.

Man, I love this world - It's fascinating!

Actually I was really really glad to read your story! I imagine there are probably more people out there who experience this sort of stuff, but I've never come across many of them. Maybe it's just difficult to talk about or quantify. It certainly is for me! I figure most people will think I'm nuts! It's nice to hear someone else talk about it too, makes me feel a little less isolated, you know?

Yeah it is kind of weird, the few times I've heard someone mention these shifts it's always very quick, instantaneous like that... Although for me it's always been very slow, warped, hazy and misty and dream-like. Very rarely is it a quick shift for me, I have NO idea why. It's happened a few times and they were all very very weird and inexplicable.

I don't know what's up with that, lol...my fiance and I call them "jumps", though. I think short of experiencing it, it's just hard for most people to wrap their heads around that sort of thing. So I don't usually talk about it at all.

002 Cents
11-07-2012, 09:15 PM
Nebulous - Very interesting. I love pondering these sorts of ideas. That perhaps the fabric of time itself is more like a chemical reaction that only exists under the right parameters and can be altered and distorted easily.

I remember once contemplating along the lines of "what if" looking out onto the street someone could witness rips in the fabric of time. Where through something like a rip or cloud you were viewing a portion of the world as it was a couple hundred years ago or if suddenly radios picked up a broadcast from 40 years ago.

Fun ponderings.

Henri77
11-07-2012, 11:16 PM
This thread reads like a Steven King, or M Night Shyamalan story idea scrapbook.....

Lots of movie script ideas here.

Lulu
11-07-2012, 11:33 PM
Actually I was really really glad to read your story! I imagine there are probably more people out there who experience this sort of stuff, but I've never come across many of them. Maybe it's just difficult to talk about or quantify. It certainly is for me! I figure most people will think I'm nuts! It's nice to hear someone else talk about it too, makes me feel a little less isolated, you know?

Yeah it is kind of weird, the few times I've heard someone mention these shifts it's always very quick, instantaneous like that... Although for me it's always been very slow, warped, hazy and misty and dream-like. Very rarely is it a quick shift for me, I have NO idea why. It's happened a few times and they were all very very weird and inexplicable.

I don't know what's up with that, lol...my fiance and I call them "jumps", though. I think short of experiencing it, it's just hard for most people to wrap their heads around that sort of thing. So I don't usually talk about it at all.
I agree that this topic is a difficult one to talk about - Not just difficult in the sense that by talking about it you are essentially admitting it to yourself, therefore you'll have to eventually 'face' it (not to mention, the gawks you'll get from others for being a little too 'out there'), but because the experience is literally difficult to describe. It's hard to find words to accurately describe what (might have) happened to you. All of the theories I presented (as well as the numerous other ones I wrote in my first draft that didn't make the final cut) - that was beyond simple. I whipped those up in about two minutes. But describing my experience... I mulled over it for quite some time. Those nanoseconds of the 'shift' are so hard to describe... nanoseconds of an event are hard to describe! Crazy, right? It sounds crazy, but I still don't think I did those nanoseconds any justice by putting them into words. I don't think I ever will be able to.

That's why I was so glad to find others that had experienced such a thing. After it happened, I went over it in my head again and again... I kind of-sort of mentioned it to my mom, who, naturally, accused me of having a 'wild imagination.' So, I kept it inside for a while. By sheer luck, I came across a story eerily similar to mine - it was only after that that I felt 'compelled' to push on with it. Like you said, it's good to hear/share experiences such as these - it's good to know that you're not alone in this. That allows for dialogue and maybe, some day, an understanding of the whats, whys, and hows.

I would love to know why you experienced the time in between the 'shift...' maybe you were meant to see it... a sort of 'all-access pass' to the 'behind the scenes' of these occurrences? I can't say I'd like to experience dying again (especially not in such a horrible, horrible manner), but it would be neat to see what you have seen, for sure!

I'm so glad you found this thread! This thread is actually starting to remind me of that 'other' thread... which I dare not mention... because I can't talk about that stuff right now. You are so much better with words than I am, and you painted a much better picture of the actual experience than I ever could of!

Who knows... maybe some other people out there will, by sheer luck, happen upon this thread and be compelled to share their own experiences. One can hope, right?

Lulu
11-07-2012, 11:39 PM
This thread reads like a Steven King, or M Night Shyamalan story idea scrapbook.....

Lots of movie script ideas here.



Hahahaha


But, in all seriousness, M. Night Shyamalan has let me down so many times in recent history - He's dead to me now. Just stop, M. Night Shyamalan. Stop.

Henri77
12-07-2012, 03:07 AM
Hahahaha


But, in all seriousness, M. Night Shyamalan has let me down so many times in recent history - He's dead to me now. Just stop, M. Night Shyamalan. Stop.

I wasn't joking..... this stuff is amazing, and far more unique than most fiction. I'm a movie nut and a sometime writer....

Sorry Hun, I think Shayamalan is an amazing storyteller.
Dude knows how to spin a yarn... even though not all his work has won approval. Critics who blast him should try writing-directing a movie.

I respect his courage to try off center- out there themes.....without selling out to the mass market, with comic book adptations and explosion laden stories..relying on babes & guns.
If some films don't succeed , he still has created some amazing, unique stories, that few others would risk.
What can I say, he's an outsider, with a cute Indian dialect .... and passionate about storytelling.


Anyway.......there's a lot of very interesting ideas tossed about here. And each story, I see as a possible movie scene.

Lulu
12-07-2012, 03:30 AM
Everyone's a critic.

Shyamalan's done some great things... but he's also done some poop things. He is a talented guy... there's no denying that. The issue most people have with him is his lack of consistency (with a dash of hubris, here and there). I'm rooting for him, though. I want him to engage me again.

But, in the end, art will always remain subjective.

As for the discussions going on in this thread - If I may quote Nebulous again,

Truth is simply much, much stranger than fiction. That's all there is to it.
Maybe someone will write our story some day... but, if they do, I'd better see some royalties... or much pain will be felt :tongue:

Henri77
12-07-2012, 03:07 PM
Everyone's a critic.

Shyamalan's done some great things... but he's also done some poop things.

Well I suspect that can be said for all humans, in every endeavor.
Yes?
He is no different from you or I except his "failures" are vastly more public.

I'm not quite a fanboy, but he has enriched us with his imagination,
and often attempted to inject positive spiritual themes that other directors might not have risked.
His stories are nearly always about very human themes, rather than sci-fi hardware, shoot outs, dumb humor... sure fire ideas to fill theater seats.

He IS a risk taker IMO. And his stories always celebrate human spirit,,,for that, I love the guy.

Christopher Nolan, Tom Tykwer, Darren Aronofsky, Night Shamalan
have all created unique imaginative stories that challenged our belief systems
in a positive manner.

Anyway this is off topic, and I apoligize for the digression.
I just watched Inception the 3rd time... as it raised ideas few films have, about creation, time, possibilities.


Thanx for starting this topic, many of us haven't experienced (or remembered) such experiences, and it's bloody enlightening.

Lulu
12-07-2012, 04:16 PM
Shyamalan's problem is in the execution - sure, he can come up with a really interesting/unique story, but if said story is not executed properly, then the story suffers. What worked well for one movie will not work well for every movie. Whether it was coming solely from him or he was taking some bad advice, I don't know. The guy is great with visuals, as well... he knows how to set up a visually stunning shot... but a movie can't just rely on one thing... great movies (from any genre) are great because they're strong in (nearly) every aspect. It's all in the execution.

He also needs to work on his dialogue scenes - Quentin Tarantino knows how to present a (lengthy) dialogue scene. Whether you like Tarantino's style, or not, you can not deny that he is a master of the dialogue scene. Shyamalan should take note (again, we're talking execution, not content).

In the end, I think he just fell victim to his own hype. He should take note of his criticisms (because they are valid). He chose this job and if he can't handle all that said job entails, he should get out of the game because there are a million others out there (with just as much talent) waiting for their turn. But, like I said, I am rooting for the guy.

As for Darren Afronsky, what can you say? The guy is great. Pi and Requiem for a Dream... now those are fantastic movies.

But you're right, we're kind of derailing here... we can take this over to the films section (for further debate), if you'd like :tongue:

Back on topic,
No problem! I was hesitant to post this thread at first because the topic is just so 'out there.' I'm going to keep running with it (in the direction I presented in my OP), but I hope there are others out there who run with it in different direction... different insights/theories will only 'help the cause,' if you will. I am forever changed by what I experienced and it is always great to hear other people's experiences - even if they are not as 'dramatic' as dying in a car accident, and so on. Any perceived 'shift,' no matter how big or small, is relevant.

Nebulous
12-07-2012, 06:13 PM
I agree that this topic is a difficult one to talk about - Not just difficult in the sense that by talking about it you are essentially admitting it to yourself, therefore you'll have to eventually 'face' it (not to mention, the gawks you'll get from others for being a little too 'out there'), but because the experience is literally difficult to describe. It's hard to find words to accurately describe what (might have) happened to you. All of the theories I presented (as well as the numerous other ones I wrote in my first draft that didn't make the final cut) - that was beyond simple. I whipped those up in about two minutes. But describing my experience... I mulled over it for quite some time. Those nanoseconds of the 'shift' are so hard to describe... nanoseconds of an event are hard to describe! Crazy, right? It sounds crazy, but I still don't think I did those nanoseconds any justice by putting them into words. I don't think I ever will be able to.

That's why I was so glad to find others that had experienced such a thing. After it happened, I went over it in my head again and again... I kind of-sort of mentioned it to my mom, who, naturally, accused me of having a 'wild imagination.' So, I kept it inside for a while. By sheer luck, I came across a story eerily similar to mine - it was only after that that I felt 'compelled' to push on with it. Like you said, it's good to hear/share experiences such as these - it's good to know that you're not alone in this. That allows for dialogue and maybe, some day, an understanding of the whats, whys, and hows.

I would love to know why you experienced the time in between the 'shift...' maybe you were meant to see it... a sort of 'all-access pass' to the 'behind the scenes' of these occurrences? I can't say I'd like to experience dying again (especially not in such a horrible, horrible manner), but it would be neat to see what you have seen, for sure!

I'm so glad you found this thread! This thread is actually starting to remind me of that 'other' thread... which I dare not mention... because I can't talk about that stuff right now. You are so much better with words than I am, and you painted a much better picture of the actual experience than I ever could of!

Who knows... maybe some other people out there will, by sheer luck, happen upon this thread and be compelled to share their own experiences. One can hope, right?

So freaking true! Describing this thing is really really hard. I tried my best but I felt like I was repeating myself over and over or I might as well have just opened up a thesaurus for synonyms to words like "dream-like" or "warped" lol. I could probably spend an entire chapter's worth just trying (and likely failing) to describe the time-less time-between-time...before I stood on the beach calling out for my boyfriend. I actually paced around, aimless, like I didn't know where I was going for an indeterminate amount of time. It was a very erratic, swaying, meandering walk to get there - all surrounded by just...chaos. But see? I look at those words and think it still doesn't do any justice. LOL

All my shifts have haunted me too. There was once that 2-3 similar events (not all shifts but all similar in nature) had happened within several months and I have to be honest - it really threatened my sanity for a while. It's hard to explain why or how - it just is utterly MADDENING. The event leaves ripples in the mind... I don't think I'll ever be able to be completely unaffected by those events.

I don't really know why I experienced it. I have to be honest, after having undergone the events I have, my perception of time is permanently skewed now. The only time I think of time in a truly linear fashion is when a clock is ticking - and I'm reminded how everyone around me sees it. My former perceptions of time-space are shattered permanently. It's gotten to the point that walls do not look solid, nothing does really, and it sometimes takes effort to think of it as a solid object...time does not seem to 'flow' so much as 'exist' singularly (that's really hard for me to describe too)...and I often see momentary tiny 'holes' through matter that open for an instant and close back up immediately; or miniscule, almost imperceptible 'skips' in time (like a fraction of a blink of an eye, skipped, or something).

I do not know why I see these things. I don't know whether I'm the only one, and although it took me a long time to adjust to the changes in my perception, I no longer care whether anyone would believe my claims or not (although this is the first time I've ever mentioned them other than to my fiance in confidence) - I know it's real. I know by observation sort of how it works (but probably not well enough to satisfy a scientist, sadly)...I just don't know why I can see it. I don't know if my mind re-trained itself after having experienced enough 'shifts'...to observe what most human beings are trained to tune out as background? I mean I know there's a host of information that gets disregarded by most people's brains...I truly, truly feel like maybe this is one of those things. The skips in time become background, unnoticed and not worth noticing to the human brain, maybe. And maybe I'm a flaw in that system - or my brain stopped being able to filter it out, or something.

It really is a very out-there thing. I'm always nervous, waiting to hear a bunch of people descend on me to say "You are insane", "You must be schizophrenic", or "Yeah right, prove it!" or worse. Like I should be on the defensive immediately and be ready to clam up and never speak of it again.

Finding your thread is basically the only reason I'm saying anything. This is one of those things, for me. Feels like nobody would want to hear it or be ready to hear it, nobody would believe me, nobody would be able to comprehend, nobody would accept it. I just keep it to myself.

Lulu
12-07-2012, 07:42 PM
So freaking true! Describing this thing is really really hard. I tried my best but I felt like I was repeating myself over and over or I might as well have just opened up a thesaurus for synonyms to words like "dream-like" or "warped" lol. I could probably spend an entire chapter's worth just trying (and likely failing) to describe the time-less time-between-time...before I stood on the beach calling out for my boyfriend. I actually paced around, aimless, like I didn't know where I was going for an indeterminate amount of time. It was a very erratic, swaying, meandering walk to get there - all surrounded by just...chaos. But see? I look at those words and think it still doesn't do any justice. LOL
For real, I have used up the quotation mark quota for our entire species for several years to come in trying my best to describe some of the experiences I have had. But I am so glad to have found others who have had similar experiences that allow us to almost non-verbally communicate with each other... you just sort of know what the other person is trying their best to describe... you can fill in the gaps and read between the lines. It might sound a tad cliched to say, but it's almost as if you can't understand unless you have experienced it for yourself. Maybe our current languages are just too limiting and they too need to evolve before we can begin to accurately describe such things. To me, this is where mathematics comes into play, however, I don't think a lot of the world agrees with me. Why is that? Math is such a beautiful language.

As someone who comes across the concept of time a heck of a lot in her studies, I hope you can understand why I am just so fascinated with your experience of the time-between-times... I hope I'm not being too invasive, or anything like that! It's just my curious nature. My parents told me I was born asking questions. I have a need (not just want) to find as many answers to anything and everything in this Universe, as well as to absorb as much information as I can. It's the driving force in my life. I guess that's why I chose to study science.

The last time I opened up and shared some 'negative' experiences (that are apparently 'all my fault'), I was genuinely searching for answers. After opening up a dialogue on the subject, I was subjected to a pretty brutal experience that not only stopped my search for answers in its tracks, but really left me feeling quite hopeless/helpless. I became reluctant to share any other experiences I have had. But I'm glad I decided to post this - I feel a new sense of hope, maybe even purpose - I want to pursue this.

"Our clocks do not measure time... Time is defined to be what our clocks measure."
-Unnamed person at the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Boulder, U.S.A

Maybe we've been given a 'sneak peek' of how things actually work. Maybe. Again, one can hope, right?

Nebulous
12-07-2012, 08:12 PM
For real, I have used up the quotation mark quota for our entire species for several years to come in trying my best to describe some of the experiences I have had. But I am so glad to have found others who have had similar experiences that allow us to almost non-verbally communicate with each other... you just sort of know what the other person is trying their best to describe... you can fill in the gaps and read between the lines. It might sound a tad cliched to say, but it's almost as if you can't understand unless you have experienced it for yourself. Maybe our current languages are just too limiting and they too need to evolve before we can begin to accurately describe such things. To me, this is where mathematics comes into play, however, I don't think a lot of the world agrees with me. Why is that? Math is such a beautiful language.

As someone who comes across the concept of time a heck of a lot in her studies, I hope you can understand why I am just so fascinated with your experience of the time-between-times... I hope I'm not being too invasive, or anything like that! It's just my curious nature. My parents told me I was born asking questions. I have a need (not just want) to find as many answers to anything and everything in this Universe, as well as to absorb as much information as I can. It's the driving force in my life. I guess that's why I chose to study science.

The last time I opened up and shared some 'negative' experiences (that are apparently 'all my fault'), I was genuinely searching for answers. After opening up a dialogue on the subject, I was subjected to a pretty brutal experience that not only stopped my search for answers in its tracks, but really left me feeling quite hopeless/helpless. I became reluctant to share any other experiences I have had. But I'm glad I decided to post this - I feel a new sense of hope, maybe even purpose - I want to pursue this.

"Our clocks do not measure time... Time is defined to be what our clocks measure."
-Unnamed person at the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Boulder, U.S.A

Maybe we've been given a 'sneak peek' of how things actually work. Maybe. Again, one can hope, right?

Oh no, I'm very relieved at the curiosity! It's nice to be able to talk about it. I agree with everything you said...and I'm the same way. I spend a lot of time trying to hunt down scientific theories that talk about this stuff. Anything to find answers and attempt to better understand. I'd LOVE be a scientist, but I can't really afford the insane amounts of college education I'd need to formally get into that whole thing, sadly. And it's really just one of several things I've had strong interest in - I wouldn't know which to pick first, and I wonder if I'd ever want to stop taking classes at all, LOL

So I'm really just stuck as an amateur trying to find information when and where I can.

That quote is amazing! That's how it is to me...clocks are arbitrary, days on the calendar mean nothing to me (other than, oh I'm supposed to do this at this or that time and date). That person put it beautifully.

Lulu
12-07-2012, 09:02 PM
Oh no, I'm very relieved at the curiosity! It's nice to be able to talk about it. I agree with everything you said...and I'm the same way. I spend a lot of time trying to hunt down scientific theories that talk about this stuff. Anything to find answers and attempt to better understand. I'd LOVE be a scientist, but I can't really afford the insane amounts of college education I'd need to formally get into that whole thing, sadly. And it's really just one of several things I've had strong interest in - I wouldn't know which to pick first, and I wonder if I'd ever want to stop taking classes at all, LOL

So I'm really just stuck as an amateur trying to find information when and where I can.

That quote is amazing! That's how it is to me...clocks are arbitrary, days on the calendar mean nothing to me (other than, oh I'm supposed to do this at this or that time and date). That person put it beautifully.

You don't even want to know how all over the place I have been in University. I am like you... I want/need to know everything. It was so difficult to focus on a single program. At my school, you have the option of a specialist program, two majors, or one major and two minors. I opted for the specialist program, thinking it would be the best preparation for grad school. As I completed more and more physics courses (physics is not even my specialist program!) I really began to fall in love with it and worried I had made a mistake. After some really good advice from, well, an advisor, I found out I could do a specialist program and a major! I was so happy.

I'd stay in school forever, if I could afford it - but I can barely afford it as it is lol.

All of the information is out there... even MIT offers free 'courses' online... obviously they do not equate to a credit, but who cares, knowledge is the credit. A lot of my friends who opted out of formal schooling do exactly what you're doing... and a lot of them have become quite knowledgeable on particular subjects of interest to them. I wish everyone had equal access to an education (if that is the route they would like to choose... school isn't for everyone), but, politics, right? It's all about the money anyways, as with most things these days. I often buy used textbooks that have nothing to do with anything that I study, just to learn some new things on my own. If I wasn't in school, I would be doing the exact same thing you're doing! Heck, I pretty much am lol.

I know this point of view/perspective is often met with cricket sounds around these boards - but I think these two sides of one coin have the ability to compliment each other quite nicely.

Nebulous
12-07-2012, 09:30 PM
You don't even want to know how all over the place I have been in University. I am like you... I want/need to know everything. It was so difficult to focus on a single program. At my school, you have the option of a specialist program, two majors, or one major and two minors. I opted for the specialist program, thinking it would be the best preparation for grad school. As I completed more and more physics courses (physics is not even my specialist program!) I really began to fall in love with it and worried I had made a mistake. After some really good advice from, well, an advisor, I found out I could do a specialist program and a major! I was so happy.

I'd stay in school forever, if I could afford it - but I can barely afford it as it is lol.

All of the information is out there... even MIT offers free 'courses' online... obviously they do not equate to a credit, but who cares, knowledge is the credit. A lot of my friends who opted out of formal schooling do exactly what you're doing... and a lot of them have become quite knowledgeable on particular subjects of interest to them. I wish everyone had equal access to an education (if that is the route they would like to choose... school isn't for everyone), but, politics, right? It's all about the money anyways, as with most things these days. I often buy used textbooks that have nothing to do with anything that I study, just to learn some new things on my own. If I wasn't in school, I would be doing the exact same thing you're doing! Heck, I pretty much am lol.

I know this point of view/perspective is often met with cricket sounds around these boards - but I think these two sides of one coin have the ability to compliment each other quite nicely.

Stole the words out of my mouth, LOL - sounds like we think alike :D

Yeah - I don't necessarily need a professor to explain things to me and how to interpret them (although I'd LOVE to just sit there and absorb science and physics lectures day in day out, seriously)...I'd like to try and get a hold of textbooks and other materials if I can. I'm looking into the MIT thing right away, I'm glad you mentioned it! I was of the understanding that colleges guarded their resources and only allowed students access for courses or something - I hope it's not that bad and I can try and swipe up some text books or something.

I have a whole folder on my computer full of weird obscure books that were made into PDF's - one of my other favorite topics is ancient cultures, and symbology and mythos from all over the world in many time periods. My culture folder is part of my gigantic stack of things I try to read when nobody's looking or when I get a little spare time. I feel like there's so much info, so little time!

I think you're absolutely right. I suppose in a sense I have a more alchemical perspective toward spirituality - where magic and science are no different. Magic/metaphysics/spirituality, to me, is something to be studied very seriously, verified and tested...and if something hasn't been widely accepted yet, it's only because the scientific community as a whole just isn't there yet.

In many cases, the lunatics of today are the brilliant minds of the next century. But I feel that, like famous artwork or brilliant musicians, a good scientist's work likely won't be appreciated until after they're gone. A good scientist shakes things up, challenges accepted theory, and is just a socially-unacceptable madman with a penchant for logic, deduction and numbers.

Lulu
12-07-2012, 10:06 PM
I feel like there's so much info, so little time!

Exactly! I love this place so much... I'll be sad to leave it one day. I want to take in as much as possible while I'm here... or somehow extend my life a bit longer, just for some extra time (I expressed my view on this in a thread on cloning, somewhere around these boards lol).

The open courses are from years past, and the different 'courses' have varying degrees of material (lecture notes, exams, videos, etc.) but they are a really great starting point in learning about a subject of interest. You can accompany them with a textbook, but it's not absolutely necessary. Just find a subject you like, download the course materials, and start learning.

Here's the link to the MIT open courses site, that is, if you haven't already found it (which I suspect you just might have lol),

MIT OpenCourseWare (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Focw.mit.edu%2Findex.ht m)

I think a lot of the lectures (videos, etc.) are also available on iTunes U.

There are a lot of other schools that do this too, but MIT is a good starting place.

Happy learnin' :D

Solace733
14-07-2012, 06:00 PM
First off, fascinating stories all! I loved reading these. It is interesting the timing of this, as i have been wondering what i used to experience as a child, and once as a teen. Warped reality was mentioned here, and i can relate to that. As a small child, when i was experiencing paranormal events, there were times that the room would seem distorted. It is really hard to explain. If you have ever stared at a camp fire and looked slightly above the flames to see the air looking wavy/warped/distorted, that would be sort of what i would experience. It used to really scare me. The moments would be brief, but i have never forgotten them and i was not dreaming. I was awake in every experience. This only happened when i was very little(3&4) years old and stopped completely until i was around 15. My mom used to work late shifts, and i remember getting settled in for the night, alone as usual, and it started to happen. The room looked distorted, my heart was racing,etc. I called my mom and said,"it's happening again!" I was grateful she drove home to be with me that night. I was scared to death and really didn't feel ok alone. Anyway, it only happened once as a teen and never happened again. I still do not know what it was or what it could mean, but i felt to post this in your thread.
p.s.(i had my eyes checked and medically, i was fine.)

Lulu
14-07-2012, 09:43 PM
First off, fascinating stories all! I loved reading these. It is interesting the timing of this, as i have been wondering what i used to experience as a child, and once as a teen. Warped reality was mentioned here, and i can relate to that. As a small child, when i was experiencing paranormal events, there were times that the room would seem distorted. It is really hard to explain. If you have ever stared at a camp fire and looked slightly above the flames to see the air looking wavy/warped/distorted, that would be sort of what i would experience. It used to really scare me. The moments would be brief, but i have never forgotten them and i was not dreaming. I was awake in every experience. This only happened when i was very little(3&4) years old and stopped completely until i was around 15. My mom used to work late shifts, and i remember getting settled in for the night, alone as usual, and it started to happen. The room looked distorted, my heart was racing,etc. I called my mom and said,"it's happening again!" I was grateful she drove home to be with me that night. I was scared to death and really didn't feel ok alone. Anyway, it only happened once as a teen and never happened again. I still do not know what it was or what it could mean, but i felt to post this in your thread.
p.s.(i had my eyes checked and medically, i was fine.)

Hey, Solace... it almost sounds as if you were 'seeing' our dimension and another at the same time... pretty awesome! I'm glad you got your eyes checked though... it's good to rule out anything 'malfunctioning' with your body first, instead of just automatically assuming something is 'paranormal...' you need to take care of you first, and then, if given the 'all clear,' go ahead with other explanations. I'm also glad you referenced the camp fire 'illusion...' optical phenomenon, such as mirages, happen to us all of the time. One of the most common is the highway mirage, where it looks as if there is a pool of water on the road ahead. It's a light refraction. Another example would be a straw in a glass of clear liquid that 'appears' to be bent or broken.

Thanks so much for sharing your experiences!

Lulu
14-07-2012, 10:35 PM
Here are a couple of the more 'famous' stories of 'reality shifts' that are floating around the internet. I make no claims regarding their accuracy... they both have problems/'holes' in their stories (especially the first), and there are many proposed 'explanations' of these stories out there, as well. Hoaxes, or not, they are interesting reads, obviously relating to what we have been discussing, that is, when we're not derailing lol.

The odd tale of the man from Taured (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiritualforums.co m%2Fvb%2Fredir.php%3Flink%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww .spiritualforums.com%252Fvb%252Fredir.php%253Flink %253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.spiritualforums. com%25252Fvb%25252Fredir.php%25253Flink%25253Dhttp %2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.spiritualforums.com %2525252Fvb%2525252Fredir.php%2525253Flink%2525253 Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fwww.spiritua lforums.com%252525252Fvb%252525252Fredir.php%25252 5253Flink%252525253Dhttp%25252525253A%25252525252F %25252525252Fwww.spiritualforums.com%25252525252Fv b%25252525252Fredir.php%25252525253Flink%252525252 53Dhttp%2525252525253A%2525252525252F%252525252525 2Fwww.spiritualforums.com%2525252525252Fvb%2525252 525252Fredir.php%2525252525253Flink%2525252525253D http%252525252525253A%252525252525252F%25252525252 5252Fwww.spiritualforums.com%252525252525252Fvb%25 2525252525252Fredir.php%252525252525253Flink%25252 5252525253Dhttp%25252525252525253A%252525252525252 52F%25252525252525252Fwww.spiritualforums.com%2525 2525252525252Fvb%25252525252525252Fredir.php%25252 525252525253Flink%25252525252525253Dhttp%252525252 5252525253A%2525252525252525252F%25252525252525252 52Fwww.spiritualforums.com%2525252525252525252Fvb% 2525252525252525252Fredir.php%2525252525252525253F link%2525252525252525253Dhttp%25252525252525252525 3A%252525252525252525252F%252525252525252525252Fww w.shieldsgazette.com%252525252525252525252Fcommuni ty%252525252525252525252Fcolumnists%25252525252525 2525252Fwraithscape%252525252525252525252Fthe-odd-tale-of-the-man-from-taured-1-4464631)
It’s July 1954; a hot day. A man arrives at Tokyo airport in Japan. He’s of Caucasian appearance and conventional-looking. But the officials are suspicious.
On checking his passport, they see that he hails from a country called Taured. The passport looked genuine, except for the fact that there is no such country as Taured – well, at least in our dimension.
The man is interrogated, and asked to point out where his country supposedly exists on a map.
He immediately points his finger towards the Principality of Andorra, but becomes angry and confused. He’s never heard of Andorra, and can’t understand why his homeland of Taured isn’t there.
According to him it should have been, for it had existed for more than 1,000 years!
Terrified Woman From Another Universe Wakes Up Here (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.declineoftheempire .com%2F2012%2F01%2Fterrified-woman-from-another-universe-wakes-up-here.html)
What started as an ordinary day—waking in bed one morning—evolved into a series of fearful shocks and haunting horror for a desperate woman lost in an alien world: our world. As she later wrote on the Internet seeking someone to offer an explanation for her nightmarish dilemma and maybe offering help:
"One day I woke up and found that everything was different—nothing spectacular or having to do with time travel and such things. I simply woke up in the same year and day on which I went to bed, but many things were different. They were small things, but sufficiently important to know that there was a point at which everything was different." Again, take these stories with a grain of salt!

Solace733
14-07-2012, 10:44 PM
Hey, Solace... it almost sounds as if you were 'seeing' our dimension and another at the same time... pretty awesome! I'm glad you got your eyes checked though... it's good to rule out anything 'malfunctioning' with your body first, instead of just automatically assuming something is 'paranormal...' you need to take care of you first, and then, if given the 'all clear,' go ahead with other explanations. I'm also glad you referenced the camp fire 'illusion...' optical phenomenon, such as mirages, happen to us all of the time. One of the most common is the highway mirage, where it looks as if there is a pool of water on the road ahead. It's a light refraction. Another example would be a straw in a glass of clear liquid that 'appears' to be bent or broken.

Thanks so much for sharing your experiences!

Thanks for your input on mine Lulu, much appreciated!

Simon_Templar
24-02-2013, 02:43 PM
Reality shifts happen every day for me. In fact an entire history of this life time which exists in what i call the Book guides me in making decisions about what to do. While its true that nothing much changes everyday, thank god or it would be a manifestation of Chaos, but there is one point where I'm no longer playing a mind game with this Dreamer chick i know from the Internet and instead in this unusual window of opportunity I am now introduced to Conversation about the Nephilim. Its my own personal truth from this POV that both eventualities have happened and though they take place in the same relative time adherence (the night, the month, the year) they take place because of each other, it's all part of the Book.

More on topic, I have had some severe black outs after extreme experiences which whether before, during, or after there have been time shifts and theres always hope!

cMarie
07-03-2013, 05:34 AM
Wow, what an amazing thread! I have experienced reality shifts but nothing like what I have read here! Thank you so much for sharing your stories.

I read a book called Reality Shifts by Cynthia Sue Larson and she has a website too where people tell their stories, although I don't remember anything like this.

I also read a book on parallel universes written by a woman who experiences traveling between parallel dimensions. It left me wondering about many things.
It was Traveling to Parallel Universes by Trish LeSage.

My experiences amount to things disappearing or appearing for the most part.

I got chills several times while reading your stories Lulu and Nebulous! I think both of you explained them very well. Thanks again for sharing!:D

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