Can anyone give me info on Autism

[Celeste]

from both the medical and spiritual perspectives? Are the children with this "special" in the sense that they have a higher vibration, and that they almost belong on a higher plane? That, they are angelic beings that are here for us, not us there for them? Or are these special needs children a product of the world and its negative state, producing a mutation of genes. OR, are there so many of these children being diagnosed, because doctors now have a name for something that has been around since the beginning of time. The same question can be asked regarding "bi-polar," which seems overly diagnosed (for any affliction, or NO affliction, everyone's bi-polar!) or not really, that it may be a good thing, not a term over used. THX.

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[Blue Tiger]

I can only speak of one autistic child, my nephew Nathaniel. He is severely autistic, and has never spoken a single word. He's 12 now. He is not potty-trained.

He is clearly a special needs child, and in his case it's genetic. There are autistic ancestors on both his mother's and father's sides of the family going back several generations.

I can't imagine that Nathaniel is somehow a being with a higher vibration, or belongs on a higher plane. I think he is a boy afflicted by a genetic problem that makes his life different, and his parents' life difficult.

But as I said, I can only speak of the one autistic child I Know.

[John32241]

I have a niece who is 30 that is like Nathaniel. She was never classified as autistic.

The best information, in my view, about autism is at this link.
http://www.suzymiller.com/

I hope it is helpful.

John

[Miss Hepburn]

Try this and click onto Autism:

http://www.abraham-hicks.com/lawofat...rce/videos.php (http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/redir.php?link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abraham-hicks.com%2Flawofattractionsource%2Fvideos.php)

My friend has a hyperbaric tank biz - -mostly autistic kids - it's working wonders.
They did a segment on our local news. The parents were thrilled.
Then MDs came on saying there were no med studies, no proof bla bla.

gag...

[Blue Tiger]

With autistic kids, I say whatever works, do it. There are so few "medically approved" treatments for them.

Some mildly autistic kids can lead mostly normal lives. Thankfully not all are as profoundly afflicted as Nathaniel.

They've tried most everything, followed every theory. Allergies, vacinations, behavior modification, picture boards, etc. He can point to the picture of what he wants (glass of milk, tv, etc) but that is his only form of communication.

If hyperbaric tanks offer some hope, I see no harm in trying.

[Arcturus]

there was a study that showed that autism and bowel disease go hand in hand. the bowel is you're root to the earth. autistics to me are physically ungrounded and so their consciousness centre can be above the head rather than at their third eye/brow centre. this can give a different awareness and consciousness but its due to illness nothing else. acidic tissues would probably present with bowel disease, due to leaky gut with undigested starch and proteins entering the system asnd fermenting, and oxygen is great for neutralising acidosis and microbial overload.

[Celeste]

Thank you everyone who gave input. More is welcome. I believe that they are the most awesome children in the world. My daughter is taking care of an autistic boy, Sammy, and when he is around, I feel such love, peace and happiness. I, too, do not think they are "handicapped," but higher beings to teach us the true essence of Love/Self/God.

[Henri77]

I'd heard several examples of Autistic children with extraordinary psychic-healing abilities
but can't locate the sources right now...

Though "Grandma Chandra" is fairly well known as an interdimensional teacher-healer
though medically is in a near vegetative state,(according to her mothers words, in a video) intellectually and physically.
I don't know exactly how medicine categorizes her disability)
She communicates telepathically through her interpreter-Mother and a few others.
http://www.grandmachandra.com/grandma-chandras-life-story/

Just read that Autism affects males 4-6x over females,
Autism in far more common today than in the past (1 in 91 births) by one source
60% are left handed
Many are extremely sensitive to sound or touch
"(2) Abnormal responses to sensations. Any one or a combination of senses or responses are affected: sight, hearing, touch, balance, smell, taste, reaction to pain, and the way a child holds his or her body."

Autistic Savants are another well known phenomena, though also rare.
Individuals with extraordinary yet narrowly defined high functioning in mathmatics ,music and visual art being predominant. http://www.autismtoday.com/articles/SavantSyndrome.htm

I feel many who come to earth these days are overwhelmed by the human experience, and withdraw
in defense (yet I suspect many are psychic and highly evolved spiritually)

Heard just recently of a 4-5 yr old Autistic girl who was actually a very gifted spiritual worker...
Her mother had no idea but a famous healer-psychic recognized her gifts and the spiritual work she was intuitively doing.

I'm very interested in spiritually gifted kids ... and this aspect of Autism is just recently being recognized.

There's a woman who works with autistic kids to help parents learn to communicate with them telepathically.
but I don't recall her info.

[Blue Tiger]

Thank you everyone who gave input. More is welcome. I believe that they are the most awesome children in the world. My daughter is taking care of an autistic boy, Sammy, and when he is around, I feel such love, peace and happiness. I, too, do not think they are "handicapped," but higher beings to teach us the true essence of Love/Self/God.

I venture to say that Sammy can, at least in some form, relate to people.

Nathaniel cannot. Look at his eyes; they are dull and lifeless. He flaps his hands in the typical "self-stim" behavior autistic children often have. He does not respond to his name, nor make eye-contact. He wanders about in his own little world, devoid of language and words.

He dislikes physical contact, does not reach out to others and recoils if someone hugs him.

His parents love him dearly, but love and wishes and doctors can not make Nathaniel whole. He is simply... Nathaniel.

I cannot look at Nathaniel, and believe that his condition is a good thing, or somehow related to having a higher vibrational level.

I believe he is exactly what he seems to be: a gift from the universe, sent to teach unconditional love and patience. A little boy oddly unattached to the world. A child unto himself.

[Celeste]

Wow thank you both for showing two sides of the coin. Yes, at the very least, they can be here to teach patience, to their parents.

[Rhodes]

my son Daniel is 25 and Autistic (has also: ADHD, functions at around 5 years old and has mental illness although the doctors are still working on exactly what mental illness umbrella to place him). Daniel like most kids with Autism had his share of issues in school and has developed into a strikingly handsome man but who will most likely never realize just how profound he is to the world. They are clearly here for our benefit as they are perfected souls that require no further "training" to be perfected. I heard it said once that those with ailments that remove them, at least mentally from this world has them firmly anchored with the Creator's. I really believe that as my son will often converse with others clearly not visible to my eyes and feels comfortably doing so for long periods of time. Here they call it schizophrenia but I believe and always have that they speak with the noble ones that have passed before us. He once asked me if someone died before we moved into our apartment. Apparently he says he saw a young girl roaming the hallway. I asked my manager if he knew the history of these apartments and he said he wasn't aware of any death in my apartment since the building was erected in the early 1970's. Before that, who knows?

[John32241]

Rhodes,

Daniel, and those like him, are conceptual thinkers in a world of mostly linear thinking adults. I have the gift of dyslexia which proceeded our current crop of gifted children. My experience with educators was mildly challenging in comparison to today.

I understand that all autistic children are naturally telepathic. They call this schizophrenia because that is how our culture would relate to it. Another description for Daniel would be energetically sensitive. It is interesting to notice that Daniel can converse with others not visible to you and have such a hard time formulation words structures that an average person would use.

Daniel is a human who is more physically evolved than we are able to appreciate. I strongly suggest that you examine in great detail the link I provided earlier in this thread.
http://www.suzymiller.com/

There is also a considerable amount of channeled information about the gift that autistic children have provided for humanity.

There is quite a bit to learn about on any subject like this if you wish to find better answers.

John

[Emmalevine]

My son is severely autistic, hes now ten and only has a handful of words and a few two word phrases, although he can understand a lot more. He has learning difficulties and extremely challenging behaviours. While I love him completely it's been harder than I can ever convey in words to cope with his behaviour. Personally I am touchy about the idea of autistic children being angels or the like, but that's where I'm at with it. I don't doubt that a few children with autism have special gifts but the majority don't and the media seems to forget this. I also find that a lot of attention is given to Aspergers children to the point where more classically autistic children such as my son are forgotten, leading to the general belief that autism is associated with special talents or spiritual gifts whereas it's very rare. Also, in the focus of special gifts the very real problems of coping with destructive and aggressive behaviours often displayed by these children are lost. I find that very few people really know what autism is aside from believing the child conveys some sort of gift.

My son is beautiful and I will always love him. I have grieved but continued to grieve in some form as he grows and becomes more challenging. As for gifts, yes perhaps he is teaching me a lot in terms of patience and love in a different way to what I have known.

[Blue Tiger]

You've said it well, Starbuck.

I, too, have no doubt that some children on the autism spectrum do have special gifts. But this can be said of some children in general, too. I think these children would have had their gifts whether they were born autistic or not. They didn't receive their gift for being autistic, any more than talented children receive their talent for having blond hair.

Starbuck, my prayers are with you, to help you cope with raising your beautiful autistic boy.

[Emmalevine]

Thank you for your kind words Blue Tiger. It's a very frustrating subject for me as I do think autism has been badly portrayed. Hopefully there is more awareness now. I have to admit, I have met many autistic children from my son's school and local groups and I have yet to meet a savant or even one that is especially calm. Sadly, many autistic children appear deeply troubled.

Anyway, I'l leave this subject now. Obviously a personal one for me!

[John32241]

Thank you for your kind words Blue Tiger. It's a very frustrating subject for me as I do think autism has been badly portrayed. Hopefully there is more awareness now. I have to admit, I have met many autistic children from my son's school and local groups and I have yet to meet a savant or even one that is especially calm. Sadly, many autistic children appear deeply troubled.

Anyway, I'l leave this subject now. Obviously a personal one for me!

Yes most are deeply troubled, angry, frustrated, and very combative. If you saw their reality as I do, you would understand these things completely.

John

[Blue Tiger]

I began writing up a reply, John32241, but this seems pointless. While you may feel that you "understand these things completely" and that I and Starbuck do not, that is far from the truth.

Believing that autistic children are somehow superior beings, higher vibrational entities, or even angels, is simply wishful thinking, intended to explain away the incomprehensible.

However, feel free to believe whatever you like. Like Starbuck, I'm leaving the subject now.

[andrew g]

I read ''The Horse Boy'' fairly recently, I found it both touching and inspiring. You are probably all familiar with it, but thought I would mention it in case you are not.

Here is a link

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Horse-Boy-Fathers-Miraculous/dp/0141033630/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339053209&sr=8-1

[shadedragon]

Sorry, a bit informative, but there are no such things as gifts. Some people have stronger abilities, others have lesser. I have worked with many autistic children and have found that they are exceptional with influence and energy work on others, they don't fully develop physically because their energy and body are on different levels, the energy being to high for older bodies to cope with (something of that sort at least..) and intelligence and communication skills are struggled with because their minds see one way is much more efficient and better over doing things verbally, which makes it a struggle to learn. They are all on different levels, but on a scale much bigger then our own (we can reach the top, while they are forced to strive at it because it is set in their mind that they must and this becomes priority over development and all other things in the physical. Their auras are strong, their energy powerful, and their minds are straight forward and narrow focused. The children and others tend to be open to things, but many struggle with the physical plane, even if it's only on a subconscious level.

[MRDazzle]

Hi Celeste. I know someone who has a child with Autism. She posts her blog here. She is a wonderful wonderful lady and I bet you will learn so much. she can help you in so many ways.

http://www.yourcarolina.tv/ycvideo/entry/the_complete_caregivers_guide_lynn_rosser_is_the_m other_of_two_special_need/

[John32241]

Sorry, a bit informative, but there are no such things as gifts. Some people have stronger abilities, others have lesser. I have worked with many autistic children and have found that they are exceptional with influence and energy work on others, they don't fully develop physically because their energy and body are on different levels, the energy being to high for older bodies to cope with (something of that sort at least..) and intelligence and communication skills are struggled with because their minds see one way is much more efficient and better over doing things verbally, which makes it a struggle to learn. They are all on different levels, but on a scale much bigger then our own (we can reach the top, while they are forced to strive at it because it is set in their mind that they must and this becomes priority over development and all other things in the physical. Their auras are strong, their energy powerful, and their minds are straight forward and narrow focused. The children and others tend to be open to things, but many struggle with the physical plane, even if it's only on a subconscious level.

May I ask how you have worked with many autistic children? In what way?

Thanks,
John

[shadedragon]

May I ask how you have worked with many autistic children? In what way?

Thanks,
John
My mother's friend is autistic, and from exploring my community I was able to find a prohlgram that works with them, and participate in it. I hold many friends who are autistic, and we speak telepathically, they have aided me and some are such wonderful people and I give back with healing and my own thoughts and love. I have also worked with autistic people though the Internet, watching and helping them grow internally, some of which have been able to begin growing again, begin taking control of their lives through desire and assistance. They are kind and often very grateful for what is being done for them, although sometimes they struggle to get that across..

[John32241]

My mother's friend is autistic, and from exploring my community I was able to find a prohlgram that works with them, and participate in it. I hold many friends who are autistic, and we speak telepathically, they have aided me and some are such wonderful people and I give back with healing and my own thoughts and love. I have also worked with autistic people though the Internet, watching and helping them grow internally, some of which have been able to begin growing again, begin taking control of their lives through desire and assistance. They are kind and often very grateful for what is being done for them, although sometimes they struggle to get that across..

I find that these experiences are mutually valuable. The healing energies that you provide both telepathically and otherwise are returned to you. Physical well being at your age is not even a consideration. Yet the energetic alterations in your DNA will provide for life extension if you choose that path and it is appropriate for you.

You are kind to provide such a detailed perspective of your involvement and interest in this segment of our community.

John

[Native spirit]

:smile: I used to work in an adult centre as a carer we had different abilities there some were able to walk and talk, but had mental problems we had downs there,as well as autistic and severly disabled, we had some with asperges which is a mild form form of autism.i came across many different abilities some needed more care than others, some were more able bodied than others, some of the autistic adults were very subdued because of the medicaton they took, other could speak but were very slow and very bright. my friend son was classes as having asperges but i always said it was more like autism to me, my friend believed what i told her and took her son to the doctors and he was sent to see a specialist he did have autism,he is now 24 is over 6 ft 3 in and ell built,he can read the 24 hour clock in a blink of an eye,but as hes getting older he is loosing the ability to speak,he cant be left alone.my friend takes him to gymnastics tennis relays etc,and he runs for the disabled he has won many medals.
he can also get very aggresive if he cant go where he wants,he tried to strangle my friend one day,i shouted at him and he looked and sat down,he is frightened of me,i wouldnt toutch him but i am firm with him.once he said to my friend i just saw grandad her dad had just passed but he never says anything now, i think they excell in some things but not all do.

Namaste

[CatChild]

I'd heard several examples of Autistic children with extraordinary psychic-healing abilities
but can't locate the sources right now...

Though "Grandma Chandra" is fairly well known as an interdimensional teacher-healer
though medically is in a near vegetative state,(according to her mothers words, in a video) intellectually and physically.
I don't know exactly how medicine categorizes her disability)
She communicates telepathically through her interpreter-Mother and a few others.
http://www.grandmachandra.com/grandma-chandras-life-story/

Just read that Autism affects males 4-6x over females,
Autism in far more common today than in the past (1 in 91 births) by one source
60% are left handed
Many are extremely sensitive to sound or touch
"(2) Abnormal responses to sensations. Any one or a combination of senses or responses are affected: sight, hearing, touch, balance, smell, taste, reaction to pain, and the way a child holds his or her body."

Autistic Savants are another well known phenomena, though also rare.
Individuals with extraordinary yet narrowly defined high functioning in mathmatics ,music and visual art being predominant. http://www.autismtoday.com/articles/SavantSyndrome.htm

I feel many who come to earth these days are overwhelmed by the human experience, and withdraw
in defense (yet I suspect many are psychic and highly evolved spiritually)

Heard just recently of a 4-5 yr old Autistic girl who was actually a very gifted spiritual worker...
Her mother had no idea but a famous healer-psychic recognized her gifts and the spiritual work she was intuitively doing.

I'm very interested in spiritually gifted kids ... and this aspect of Autism is just recently being recognized.

There's a woman who works with autistic kids to help parents learn to communicate with them telepathically.
but I don't recall her info.


I have seen Grandmother Chandra in person at one of her events. I wasn't actually impressed and sensed there was more hype than spirit. For example, during the Tibetan bells, I noticed through the sounds a huge wind in the room (which was a Native center). I heard a message stating something like I "should look for the truth here" and I felt a rush of energy surrounding the group of us who were all in a circle and noticed that Chandra was highly agitated during the noise. The two women who accompanied her began wailing and doing strange things. After it was over and one of the flailing women told us she saw High Energy Beings enter the room and then asked the group if any of us experienced anything as well. I shared the wind in the room, the swirling energies and the words that I heard about 'seeing the truth here,' of which the woman simply said "Hmm"... and the turned to carry on with the show.

I remember also noting Chandra swatted angrily at the females in the rooms, and tried to mess up the set up of items on the floor inside the circle. She then slid herself round to cuddle the males in the room- she even tried to climb on to their laps... To me, I honestly picked up the strong impression that while Chandra was likely a conduit for High vibrational energies, she was also still a physical Being with normal heterosexual Human needs for bonding with the opposite gender. I felt this was completely overlooked when the two accompanying women explained that she was responding to our vibrations etc. I just didn't buy it. I got the impression that she was really frustrated and on some level ignored...

Re Autism, I want to share my thoughts re a movie called Mary and Max:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgRjB8PEDkM

While perhaps there is something higher about the experience of autism/aspergers to those who look for high levels of communications between the veil, it could simply just be the back to basics for the inner passions that flood the cage of the individual who cannot filter. That goes for feelings as well- there is a lot of inner dialogue within the seemingly non communicative person. This is a common thread among those in the autistic spectrum. I recommend the movie, it's great.

[Celeste]

This is all such helpful info. I have to read it slowly, to absorb it all. One thing I know and am very surprised at, my daughter loves this job and is sticking to it (something I haven't been able to get her do in the past). She is relating to the kids, takes criticism and applies what she is told. All of the girls she works with, like herself, have schedules they can all cope with. They are paid fairly, for the importance of the job. There is nothing better than a job of service. After all, that is the main reason we, and the planet Earth, are here for! I have heard that when we are reunited with our soul mates, we will do service together, because that is the perfect Love. Getting off the subject, though, if nothing else, I am glad she learned this early in life.

[Native spirit]

:hug: Hey Celeste,


Reading through these posts will take a while to take in,because there is a lot of raw emmotion that subjects like these can bring up.
i hope you can take a lot of what has beeen said,and apply it to your journey.


Namaste

[Saki]

I have an autistic sister, and we believe that she is in touch with angels. We have a psychic that we go to, and she told us so, and I believe it because I have Aspergers (a mild form of autism) and I too myself have spiritual connections.