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windwhistle
10-06-2011, 01:48 PM
That's right. I was born a witch. Take away the Wicca religion, the Wiccan mythology, the spiritual training, the entire journey of my life...and what do you have...A Witch.

Witches are not made. Real witches are drawn to Wicca because it is a place that resonates with them...although not always entirely as there is a lot of myth to Wicca.

Real witches try many different spiritual paths...always seeking Truth for the knowing that is already inside of them.

I do not believe witches are made. Either you are or you aren't and no amount of learning will make you one if you aren't. You can call yourself a Priestess but that is just a title and of the ego. The witch's journey is an inward one and often lonely. It is shamanistic...it is not ordinary. Witch's are truly different...they hear colors, feel sounds and intuit what is truly going on. The trick for the witch is to be in the world...though she is never of it.

LightFilledHeart
10-06-2011, 02:46 PM
That's right. I was born a witch. Take away the Wicca religion, the Wiccan mythology, the spiritual training, the entire journey of my life...and what do you have...A Witch.

Witches are not made. Real witches are drawn to Wicca because it is a place that resonates with them...although not always entirely as there is a lot of myth to Wicca.

Real witches try many different spiritual paths...always seeking Truth for the knowing that is already inside of them.

I do not believe witches are made. Either you are or you aren't and no amount of learning will make you one if you aren't. You can call yourself a Priestess but that is just a title and of the ego. The witch's journey is an inward one and often lonely. It is shamanistic...it is not ordinary. Witch's are truly different...they hear colors, feel sounds and intuit what is truly going on. The trick for the witch is to be in the world...though she is never of it.

Well said! Even the term "Witch" is just a label used to describe a certain kind of individual... one is is immensely sensitive and empathic and very attuned to the spirit realms.

windwhistle
10-06-2011, 02:50 PM
Yes LightFilledHeart. Yes.

norseman
10-06-2011, 02:52 PM
Forget "witch", go back to the original Wise Folk. Forget "Magic" and go back to Craft of the Wise.
"an inward one and often lonely" - my journey has been 35+ years so far.

windwhistle
10-06-2011, 07:00 PM
Witch, magic, craft, wise.....words. Forget words and go back to pure essence.

norseman
10-06-2011, 07:19 PM
Exactly ! The old ways are still as active as they ever were. All the knowledge is still in the Earth, waiting for those who seek it. :smile:

Squatchit
10-06-2011, 07:23 PM
Witch, magic, craft, wise.....words. Forget words and go back to pure essence.

Forget words, then you are just you. Why all the witch words?

windwhistle
10-06-2011, 08:31 PM
Does the witch word frighten you? Read up on the very word...do a little digging and you will be surprised at just what a witch is...could be You even!
I like the word witch! I like words. I also like no words but not today. Today words are a fun creative treasure!

...however I am now a sleepy witch and quite possibly a soon to be very SILLY sleepy witch... so off for a nap by candlelight...zzzzzzzz

windwhistle
10-06-2011, 09:20 PM
Yes Norseman the knowledge is in the earth and is there for all who seek it. Beautiful, true words. Do I detect a kindred spirit in you?!!!

Internal Queries
10-06-2011, 09:48 PM
i read a cute Pagan maxim that went like this ...

"All women are witches. Men have to work at it" :wink:

norseman
10-06-2011, 11:12 PM
Yes Norseman the knowledge is in the earth and is there for all who seek it. Beautiful, true words. Do I detect a kindred spirit in you?!!!

:smile: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4753 :hug2:

LightFilledHeart
11-06-2011, 12:03 AM
Witch, magic, craft, wise.....words. Forget words and go back to pure essence.

Yesssssssssssss! We have been called many things over the ages, but our truth lies beyond labels and in the essence of our being and our consciousness. We know we are different from ordinary folk, and we recognize our own when we meet them...

LightFilledHeart
12-06-2011, 05:39 PM
P.S. "Different" does not mean "better"....!! :smile:

Lostgirl
16-06-2011, 07:40 AM
I love this :) Made me smile and kinda made me understand a little bit more :D Thank you.

NorwegianWiccaGirl
03-07-2011, 07:37 PM
You know, I think you're right. But people change. A person who is not into witchcraft at all may suddenly get interested. But again... maybe it's destiny...
And yes, we are very different than others, which is a good thing. We are, as you say, able to feel other things that "ordinary" people.

moke64916
04-07-2011, 04:04 PM
That's right. I was born a witch. Take away the Wicca religion, the Wiccan mythology, the spiritual training, the entire journey of my life...and what do you have...A Witch.

Witches are not made. Real witches are drawn to Wicca because it is a place that resonates with them...although not always entirely as there is a lot of myth to Wicca.

Real witches try many different spiritual paths...always seeking Truth for the knowing that is already inside of them.

I do not believe witches are made. Either you are or you aren't and no amount of learning will make you one if you aren't. You can call yourself a Priestess but that is just a title and of the ego. The witch's journey is an inward one and often lonely. It is shamanistic...it is not ordinary. Witch's are truly different...they hear colors, feel sounds and intuit what is truly going on. The trick for the witch is to be in the world...though she is never of it.
hahaha. I think all of this stuff on witchcraft is funny. This is so old school stuff. Witchcraft. OOOOHHHHHH. lol. What is the definition of a witch now in days? Sorry if I offended anyone. I just think it's funny picturing witches. Making potions and stuff. It humors me. If any of you claim that you are a witch. What is your definition of a witch? What does a witch do in modern days? Does witchcraft have to do with dark magic vodo stuff? If so, I'm out. How can anyone come to the conclusion that they are a witch?

NorwegianWiccaGirl
04-07-2011, 05:45 PM
hahaha. I think all of this stuff on witchcraft is funny. This is so old school stuff. Witchcraft. OOOOHHHHHH. lol. What is the definition of a witch now in days? Sorry if I offended anyone. I just think it's funny picturing witches. Making potions and stuff. It humors me. If any of you claim that you are a witch. What is your definition of a witch? What does a witch do in modern days? Does witchcraft have to do with dark magic vodo stuff? If so, I'm out. How can anyone come to the conclusion that they are a witch?

When you hear the word "witch", you probably think something like "an old lady, evil, with lots of wrinkles and warts in her face".
Well, maybe there are witches like that.
But, there are not just those witches around us.
A witch can be a beautiful woman, 30 years old, who tries to be a good person.

Witches now a day, is just a person who uses magic to;
- protect herself and others
- help her in the daily life
- understand the world around her
- get closer to nature
These things above is what I use magic for. I guess other witches does a bit of the same, too.

When you cast spells, no "light explotion" comes out of your wand (or whatever you are using to cast the spell).

It's not like Harry Potter, nor fairytales.

You can't for example make your hair get longer in two seconds.
But you can make it grow faster, absolutley.

Why don't you cast a spell yourself?
If you are going to try this, you can't think "Nah, this will never work. I'm just gonna try.", there's no point trying.
If you believe, if you know that your spell will work - it will.
Be open. Believe. Explore.

And by the way - I'm not using vodoo. Maybe some witches are, but I'm not using dark magic.
And you don't have to, either. You choose which person you want to be. If you hate dark magic - just be a good witch.

Some witches are making "potions". Well, at least natural medicine. They use different types of herbs.
But not recipes like this;
2 pairs of rat heads
1 farting bread
9 frog legs

But if you want to be a witch (or at least try for a moment) I wish you good look, and have fun! :)

My advice: gather some information about magic before you start...
Magic does exist, and you may get in big trouble if you are just messing around...

Occultist
02-01-2012, 04:13 AM
You can be born with a knowing or understanding of the craft. you cannot not be born knowing instantly how to cast a circle or spell weave. But I do believe you can be born with a calling. Humans are born Witchcraft is a Craft it is taught and passed down to others.

sesheta
02-01-2012, 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by moke64916

hahaha. I think all of this stuff on witchcraft is funny. This is so old school stuff. Witchcraft. OOOOHHHHHH. lol. What is the definition of a witch now in days? Sorry if I offended anyone. I just think it's funny picturing witches. Making potions and stuff. It humors me. If any of you claim that you are a witch. What is your definition of a witch? What does a witch do in modern days? Does witchcraft have to do with dark magic vodo stuff? If so, I'm out. How can anyone come to the conclusion that they are a witch?


I am a witch myself and don't worry, sometimes I even get amused by the images of witches as old women with broomsticks, muttering over a cauldron!!
How do I use witchcraft? I consider it as a way of living and thinking. Yes, there are spells sometimes - casting circles and using the cauldron :) But those are simply tools - tools to build and contain the energy you use to cast. And yes, there are many different "types" of witchcraft- personally, I am more connected to animals and nature- stones and trees, etc. My belief is simply that everything has energy and spirit - yes, even stones and trees! Tapping into that energy is what connects us to the Earth, and to each other.
You can choose to be a "good witch" or a "bad witch" - just like any other religion. How many people do you know who claim to be "Christians" - but they turn around and treat people with total disrespect, kick their dog, and ignore their kids? It's all in how you live your life....

Occultist
02-01-2012, 10:09 PM
I have a couldron I do practise a way of life I spell weave create potions and lots of things I am not good or bad not right or wrong I weave energy. Definition of a witch is the same now as it was then we are never ending.
It is a way of life it is not like what tv or movies make it out to be.
Witchcraft has nothing to do with Voodoo/Root working although I know many of those priestess also. Witchcraft is neither good or bad that comes from the heart of the Witch. I feel sad for you moke64916 cause it seems this might be something you are afraid of or uncomfortable with thats why you made sure to include your "laughs". You are not born a Witch its taught but you can be born with a calling. You do not arrive out of the womb casting spells. This is not a religion this is a way of life.

feralfae
07-01-2012, 04:14 AM
That's right. I was born a witch. Take away the Wicca religion, the Wiccan mythology, the spiritual training, the entire journey of my life...and what do you have...A Witch.

Witches are not made. Real witches are drawn to Wicca because it is a place that resonates with them...although not always entirely as there is a lot of myth to Wicca.

Real witches try many different spiritual paths...always seeking Truth for the knowing that is already inside of them.

I do not believe witches are made. Either you are or you aren't and no amount of learning will make you one if you aren't. You can call yourself a Priestess but that is just a title and of the ego. The witch's journey is an inward one and often lonely. It is shamanistic...it is not ordinary. Witch's are truly different...they hear colors, feel sounds and intuit what is truly going on. The trick for the witch is to be in the world...though she is never of it.

Umm. I was born a witch too. A Priestess, I am not. But witchcraft CAN be learned, there ARE many sensitive, empathic, gifted, and so on people who are NOT witches, and many people try different paths, regardless of whether or not they are witches. None of it makes anyone any better or worse than anyone else. Just different. One of my partners just made an excellent point: "Genetic advantage is just that."

I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just don't want people to be turned off of witchcraft for lacking "witchy" traits or feel pressed into it because they have them.

LadyMoondancer
07-01-2012, 11:33 AM
raising energy and making magick is inborn to ALL humans. all children have it. they are just taught not use it and it gets dormant.

Some adults have more open minds than others and are willing to do the work necessary to re-learn the psychic ways they were born with.

Lostgirl
07-01-2012, 05:57 PM
Its hard because i feel i was born with certain "skills" shall we say, and ive ALWAYs been drawn to witch craft. My problem is that my skills are dormant and they just kind of happen. I cant control it i just know when its happened....Im not being very descriptive here am i lol. My point is to some extent i agree with lady that we are born with a skill its just dormant because we arent taught how to use it.

However i agree strongly with the fact that witch craft can be taught, its not something you have to be born with the skills for. I think its the drive and the passion for it that you need!

thesongbirdsaresinging
11-01-2012, 12:37 AM
I haven't read through all the posts here so if someone already mentioned this sorry, but Wicca and witchcraft aren't the same thing. Wicca is a religion, witchcraft is a practice.
And anyone can a witch with practice. I don't mean to be rude but I don't believe you can be born a witch. It's something learned, not inbred. Newborn babies aren't going to be sitting around casting spells. Adults who are born into "witch bloodlines" won't be casting spells either unless they were taught or learned by themselves.

LadyMoondancer
11-01-2012, 06:43 PM
songbirds,

while I agree with what you said, I believe that some bit of "talent" may be inherent in a family. For example, I, and my two sisters, and one neice are all living in different cities. Each one of us, starting in our teens, and independentaly of each other, began studying the occult. My eldest sister is Theodish Heathen, my next sister converted to Judaism, but retains her "mystical" side. While I and my neice (my eldest sister's daughter) are both Wiccan and practice the Craft. All four of us raise energy (casting spells if you want to call it that) and are quite successful. Where did it come from? We were all raised Roman Catholic. - and my older brother (who lived in Arizona and passed away in 2003, also studied the occult and considered himself Pagan.

feralfae
13-01-2012, 01:38 AM
IMO, everyone has more gifts than humanity at large seems to be aware of. Some of these gifts are universal in nature. Others gifts are specific to certain people. For example, everyone has talents. But for one person, it may manifest as clairvoyance, while another person is better at energy healing. I think some people are born with at least some awareness of these gifts, while others discover them later and some people never realize them. I think the knowledge and acceptance of these gifts in the environment one is raised in can have a lot to do with an individuals early recognition and acceptance of these traits, and with making it less likely for an individual to forget about, dismiss, or reject them.

vicky3619
01-02-2012, 06:46 AM
I'm a roman catholic of 16 and I'm quite lost. I've always think all thoses thing we call 'psychycal' are normal. I don't know why but sometimes I feel like I've already done it in another life and that maybe someday I'll recall it. I'm also drwan to witchcraft and divination.Not to wiccan just to witchcraft,I know it's not the same thing. It's not tolerate in roman catholicism ,but I don't believe that If we use witchcraft and divination to do good we'll go to hell or something like that. in fact I believe in quite a lot's of thing who are not really catholic belief, like reincarnation.

Why do I post it here ? Just because I understand what you talk of being born a witch, I can't call myself a witch but I understand to be born like feeling you are drawn to witchcraft. I just want to use witchcarft for good thing for example there's a spell I want to do to protect my house from negative entities or one who is candle magic I think, but for the moment I'm just lost, because I fell drawn to it but know my family won't accept it..

norseman
01-02-2012, 07:40 AM
Vicky, drop the "witch" thing, just call it Craft. Don't get hung up on "black" or "white" - it is all in your intent and purpose. If your focus is pure, then so will be the result. Craft, witchcraft, magic - whatever you want to call it - is the use of natural Earth energies and is completely neutral.
Divination - all the methods used commonly are just tools which fire up your own intuition.

"If we use witchcraft and divination to do good we'll go to hell"
Now that is really funny given that Catholicism is riddled with ritual "magic" and worships "graven idols". It even has three deities to worship. All very pagan !
As to your family - go your own way but be subtle about it.
Best of luck ! [ by the way "best of luck" is an incantation, a magical "spell" if you put your whole Will and Intent behind it :smile:]

Occultist
01-02-2012, 07:18 PM
Good Point Norse almost all Christian celebrations is based on Paganism.

LadyTerra
01-02-2012, 08:17 PM
I am a natural born practioner of MagickalGifts! LOL:D

The Gift is hereditary in my family and I have been asked to leave several Wiccan Sites for saying so--apparently many Wiccans do not ascribe to the idea of HereditaryMagick.:wink:

Peace and Love on the path of your choice...

Blessed be...

P.S.

Vicky--please be very careful--you are still a minor and dependent upon your family's good graces--(perhaps) it would be wise to wait until you are an adult before delving any deeper. You will have more freedom when you have a secure place of your own.:hug:

Morpheus
01-02-2012, 11:41 PM
Occultist:

Good Point Norse almost all Christian celebrations is based on Paganism


There are alignments and agreements to be found in all aspects of beliefs, and practice.
The higher path however is the denyal of "Ego", including the carnal and sensual, in a, "Construct", of a temporary and illusory paradigm, regarding,
"The World".
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?p=450131#post450131

Occultist
02-02-2012, 06:41 PM
You cannot be born a witch you can be born a Hereditary Witch like myself or born with gifts but that doesnt mean your a Witch it takes great practise and learning who you are to become a Witch unless this is another American Wiccan thing?.

LadyTerra
02-02-2012, 07:17 PM
You cannot be born a witch you can be born a Hereditary Witch like myself or born with gifts but that doesnt mean your a Witch it takes great practise and learning who you are to become a Witch unless this is another American Wiccan thing?.


Most of the Wiccans I have met require different levels of initiation.

However--I have hereditary Gifts and have been a practicing Solitary for (11) Wheels-of-the-Year. I believe my path to be guided by Spirit and believe that this can happen to others (as well).

Do you believe someone must belong to a coven and be taught by someone else in order to perform Magick?

Peace and Love on your path to sharing w/ a nosey friend...

Blessed be...

vicky3619
04-02-2012, 07:10 AM
Occultist : if this comments for me I never called myself a witch,maybe some day or maybe never will I be, Who know what the future reserved us ? :)

Lady terra :Thank you and don't worry I will be patient before thinking any deeper on this, just need to shared my feelings on this topics

thanks you norseman for the advice

thank you all just for reading me and for your advice and comments :)

norseman
04-02-2012, 07:45 AM
[quote=LadyTerra]Most of the Wiccans I have met require different levels of initiation.

However--I have hereditary Gifts and have been a practicing Solitary for (11) Wheels-of-the-Year. I believe my path to be guided by Spirit and believe that this can happen to others (as well).

Do you believe someone must belong to a coven and be taught by someone else in order to perform Magick?
quote]

The common model for UK wiccans is solitary. [And remember, Wicca is British :D]
Covens are not necessary to carry out "magic" and being taught by someone else is like learning to cook from printed recipes. You can maybe make sandwiches but you will never be a cordon-bleu chef ! Craft is a mental discipline. You learn by trial and error, and long experience

LadyTerra
04-02-2012, 05:04 PM
[quote=LadyTerra]Most of the Wiccans I have met require different levels of initiation.

However--I have hereditary Gifts and have been a practicing Solitary for (11) Wheels-of-the-Year. I believe my path to be guided by Spirit and believe that this can happen to others (as well).

Do you believe someone must belong to a coven and be taught by someone else in order to perform Magick?
quote]

The common model for UK wiccans is solitary. [And remember, Wicca is British :D]
Covens are not necessary to carry out "magic" and being taught by someone else is like learning to cook from printed recipes. You can maybe make sandwiches but you will never be a cordon-bleu chef ! Craft is a mental discipline. You learn by trial and error, and long experience


We are in agreement (once again).:hug:

However--I am interested in learning how Occultist feels about this topic.

LadyTerra
04-02-2012, 05:05 PM
Occultist : if this comments for me I never called myself a witch,maybe some day or maybe never will I be, Who know what the future reserved us ? :)

Lady terra :Thank you and don't worry I will be patient before thinking any deeper on this, just need to shared my feelings on this topics

thanks you norseman for the advice

thank you all just for reading me and for your advice and comments :)


You are most welcome.:hug:

Occultist
04-02-2012, 08:35 PM
I believe "Gifts" and The Craft or Wiccan is 3 different entity's. There are Witches who has no spiritual gifts except for the magic they weave.
Some do not even want gifts. Having a spiritual gift does not make you a Witch or Wiccan it make you someone who has a paranormal gift. I learned Magick the old way it was taught and passed down. Spells were taught natural remedies paying respect to the wee folk, I don't think perhaps you need this sort of net to catch you when you fall flat on your face. But as long as you are fully aware and attune to your casting and who you are not who you wish to be you'll be lead down the proper path. I mean maybe me and Norse was sent here to show you a path? who's to say? Just be safe never cast while angry or sad or any kind of negative emotion just be who you are and you should be fine if you listen hard enough.
For a newby I do recommend a coven however they can teach you a lot more.

LadyTerra
06-02-2012, 04:01 AM
I already have my path. I was only trying to understand your thoughts and feelings on the subject.

Thank you (very much) for sharing.:hug:

Peace and Love on the path of your choice...

Blessed be...

Occultist
06-02-2012, 07:07 PM
I already have my path. I was only trying to understand your thoughts and feelings on the subject.

Thank you (very much) for sharing.:hug:

Peace and Love on the path of your choice...

Blessed be...
Np it really wasnt meant for you Norse asked my opinion on the subject. Good to see you have a path.:smile: and I expressed my thoughts and feeling clearly as I could. No you cannot be born a Witch, Witchery is a way of life a path a learning experiance not something that just happens when you pop out of your Mum. How does a wee Wane just born know its a Witch when its a taught craft?.. We all have choices even Wanes when they understand a little more.