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Thinker108
12-05-2011, 04:47 AM
There are many religions for people but where is the religion for the soul. Is there any similarity in all religions which gives real peace to the soul?

nightowl
12-05-2011, 06:30 AM
I think maybe the main message of many religions is to give hope for a life in the here after, which is suppose to bring peace to the soul. They try to explain where the soul or spirit will end up after physical death. Not sure if this is what you are asking... Just my view... :smile:

nightowl

breath
12-05-2011, 09:51 AM
It's time for an analogy! :D lol

There was a hermit who lived up a mountain all alone, below his mountain were 3 villages. One was a village of masonry experts, the other was a fishing village, the other was village of foresters. One day, the hermit was met with an understanding of the heavens and earth and knew he should go and tell the people in the villages. When he went down to the masonry experts, he couldn't talk in the words that he was given the knowledge in, as it was silent. So he spoke in their language. "it is like a great pyramid, everything constructed in perfectly appropriate angles - you can divide everything in existence into numbers and triangles." and he explained it in masonry terms, of distance, measurements, structures, tools like meditation and prayer. When he went to the fishing village, he had to do the same - explaining it in terms of fishing, the universe is like a great ocean in which the world floats in a balance of things, he talked of the turtle's long life and slow movement, of the way of water and how it naturally runs the path it is set for without struggle. When the hermit went to the foresters, he talked in their words. "the tree of life" he'd explain, and how we are the fruit of the earth, how there is a cycle just like the cycles of nature and the circle of life. He spoke of how the great trees can climb so high toward the sun, and how the beauty is not in reaching the sun but in what has occured in growth toward it.

All the villages rejoiced in their new wisdoms. But alas, the Hermit hadn't told each of the villages of the other villages, and 200 years later, 4 generations had passed and the stories and understanding had been passed down the entire time. The villages met each other, happy to know there were others they began discussion. But they found they had very different views of the way things are, the mason village hated the idea of a tree of life, they understood it was a perfectly deliberate structure like a building, not just a choatic mess like a tree. the fishing village, the mason village and the forester village became angry at each other and swore that they would prove their own idea to be the right idea.

3000 years later the villages still exist, each village became a city, became a country, became a contintent, seperated and each of them all took a different peice of the information - and now the world has a hundred different explainations for one truth, all is how it is and it is the only way it can be.

Our friends in these villages after just 4 generations believed entirely in the method of the message, believing that it was the correct metaphor for the truth as it made the most sense to them. It connected to what they already knew.

There is only one spirituality, if you're religious - it is the same as simply speaking a certain language. Whichever 'religion' if any speaks clearest to you - if it gives you state of mind which says 'everything is perfectly fine', then it is the right one for you. Religion is just another word for spiritual metaphors specified for a certain type of person.

this, that, the other. Always recenter, come back to the silent mind and be the hermit.

lemongrass
12-05-2011, 11:13 AM
Wow...way to go breath. I really enjoyed your analogy.
:cool:

Rah nam
12-05-2011, 02:04 PM
There are many religions for people but where is the religion for the soul. Is there any similarity in all religions which gives real peace to the soul?

I was not aware, the soul is in need of any religion.

Thinker108
18-05-2011, 04:34 AM
I was not aware, the soul is in need of any religion.
If soul does not need any religion .what is the need for religion.

Thinker108
18-05-2011, 04:36 AM
It's time for an analogy! :D lol

There was a hermit who lived up a mountain all alone, below his mountain were 3 villages. One was a village of masonry experts, the other was a fishing village, the other was village of foresters. One day, the hermit was met with an understanding of the heavens and earth and knew he should go and tell the people in the villages. When he went down to the masonry experts, he couldn't talk in the words that he was given the knowledge in, as it was silent. So he spoke in their language. "it is like a great pyramid, everything constructed in perfectly appropriate angles - you can divide everything in existence into numbers and triangles." and he explained it in masonry terms, of distance, measurements, structures, tools like meditation and prayer. When he went to the fishing village, he had to do the same - explaining it in terms of fishing, the universe is like a great ocean in which the world floats in a balance of things, he talked of the turtle's long life and slow movement, of the way of water and how it naturally runs the path it is set for without struggle. When the hermit went to the foresters, he talked in their words. "the tree of life" he'd explain, and how we are the fruit of the earth, how there is a cycle just like the cycles of nature and the circle of life. He spoke of how the great trees can climb so high toward the sun, and how the beauty is not in reaching the sun but in what has occured in growth toward it.

All the villages rejoiced in their new wisdoms. But alas, the Hermit hadn't told each of the villages of the other villages, and 200 years later, 4 generations had passed and the stories and understanding had been passed down the entire time. The villages met each other, happy to know there were others they began discussion. But they found they had very different views of the way things are, the mason village hated the idea of a tree of life, they understood it was a perfectly deliberate structure like a building, not just a choatic mess like a tree. the fishing village, the mason village and the forester village became angry at each other and swore that they would prove their own idea to be the right idea.

3000 years later the villages still exist, each village became a city, became a country, became a contintent, seperated and each of them all took a different peice of the information - and now the world has a hundred different explainations for one truth, all is how it is and it is the only way it can be.

Our friends in these villages after just 4 generations believed entirely in the method of the message, believing that it was the correct metaphor for the truth as it made the most sense to them. It connected to what they already knew.

There is only one spirituality, if you're religious - it is the same as simply speaking a certain language. Whichever 'religion' if any speaks clearest to you - if it gives you state of mind which says 'everything is perfectly fine', then it is the right one for you. Religion is just another word for spiritual metaphors specified for a certain type of person.

this, that, the other. Always recenter, come back to the silent mind and be the hermit.
Great story. touches the heart

abikisses
18-05-2011, 01:07 PM
I think Peace comes with remembering that you are not apart...

Blessings
Abikisses

I AM
18-05-2011, 02:34 PM
I was not aware, the soul is in need of any religion.

Copy that...

Bluegreen
18-05-2011, 02:49 PM
From Mellen-Thomas Benedict's near death experience:

I asked God: “What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?” And Godhead said, with great love: “I don’t care.” That was incredible grace. When Godhead said, “I don’t care,” I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the big picture; it is all important.

Rah nam
18-05-2011, 11:29 PM
If soul does not need any religion .what is the need for religion.

Great question!

I AM
19-05-2011, 02:56 AM
Religion is a socialy acceptable belief system that alows for a spiritual conection while still fitting in with your society.

breath
20-05-2011, 03:13 PM
there is no need for religion, there is want for religion. There is no such thing as need, because nothing is needed. That's exactly why you are free, and that's why spirituality is so beautiful. You are not 'chained' to any belief or need to believe. Just relax, embrace the air in your lungs with each breath and enjoy your life to the max, with absolute clarity of mind cultivated by simple breathing and being mindful. IMO of course.

mac
20-05-2011, 07:15 PM
there is no need for religion, there is want for religion. There is no such thing as need, because nothing is needed. That's exactly why y......d cultivated by simple breathing and being mindful. IMO of course.
This is the Spiritualism forum and 'Modern Spiritualism' offers explanations for many of the issues thought by folks generally to be only the province of mainstream religions....


quote: "there is no need for religion, there is want for religion." The want is not so much for religion in itself as a want to understand life, death et al or to find a place of security to hide when understanding is absent. Religion appears to offer explanations, perhaps understanding, even a place to hide.....but an in-depth look reveals something different....

That look into the teachings of many or most religions reveals a need to have belief in what is routinely taught, notions which often have little to offer in terms of evidence.

Modern Spiritualism - shortened in the title of this forum - offers explanation, understanding and evidence of all it has to say.

Welcome, members, to the Spiritualism forum, a religion which doesn't do what others do. :hug3:

7luminaries
20-05-2011, 07:27 PM
From Mellen-Thomas Benedict's near death experience:

I asked God: “What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?” And Godhead said, with great love: “I don’t care.” That was incredible grace. When Godhead said, “I don’t care,” I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the big picture; it is all important.




Very nice...agreed....

Peace & blessings,
7L

moksh
01-09-2011, 10:44 PM
well hinduism isnt a religion its a title giben to us. hinduism is better known as bedic sanatana dharma and it means the religion of the soul. if u look upon all the religious book of hindus its all about freeing the sould from the body and the mind. keeping ur mind silent is a phase in a soul realisation. heres an analogy;
ur mind is a swan and the wings that it has is called jnana. the swan flies stretching it wings and crosses the ocean of birth and death cycle. this analogy is the essense of bedic sanatara dharma so in real a jnani is called a hamsa or swan and he who has attained moksha is called paramhansa or supremeswan. so hinduism is the religion of the soul at its best

mac
01-09-2011, 10:48 PM
well hinduism isnt a religion its a title giben to us. hinduism is better known as bedic sanatana dharma and it means the religion of the soul. if u look upon all the religious book of hindus its all about freeing the sould from the body and the mind. keeping ur mind silent is a phase in a soul realisation. heres an analogy;
ur mind is a swan and the wings that it has is called jnana. the swan flies stretching it wings and crosses the ocean of birth and death cycle. this analogy is the essense of bedic sanatara dharma so in real a jnani is called a hamsa or swan and he who has attained moksha is called paramhansa or supremeswan. so hinduism is the religion of the soul at its best

This forum is about (Modern) Spiritualism.

You'll find forums for the discussion of other faiths, religions, beliefs or systems elsewhere on this website.

IndigoAmber
07-10-2011, 11:20 AM
I actually enjoy a little something from all religions. I think it speaks a lot for a certain culture and says a lot about their spiritual practice. However, though I enjoy learning things about different religions I do feel they can hinder your spiritual growth if you stick with the mindset that following one set of rules is the ONLY way to a fulfilling life and afterlife.