Who else is sleepless?

[hallow]

Anyone else out there who should be sleeping but isn't. What's keeping you up? A lot of thoughts with no place to go? Let them out here and sleep well. :hug3:

[Elfin]

This is a lovely idea Hallow....

[RedEmbers]

An overactive imagination keeps me awake alot of the time... Always connecting seemingly random information. I know some people who can fall asleep as soon as their head hits the pillow. My mind wanders with curiousity.

Random thoughts and ideas... Such as wondering why the native turkey population has boomed so well these last few years? Is it the rain? Everything was so dry in January, then it rained and now it seems like the turkeys are overtaking the humans in the area. Apparently their numbers are declining and their abundance is often determined by the goodwill of householders... This may mean that soon the humans on this property will not be able to be easily spotted through all the turkeys. Visitors will have to wade through acres of turkeys to find the humans!

The rainforest is thriving and returning here.... Thanks to the help of the bush turkey.

[hallow]

An overactive imagination keeps me awake alot of the time... Always connecting seemingly random information. I know some people who can fall asleep as soon as their head hits the pillow. My mind wanders with curiousity.

Random thoughts and ideas... Such as wondering why the native turkey population has boomed so well these last few years? Is it the rain? Everything was so dry in January, then it rained and now it seems like the turkeys are overtaking the humans in the area. Apparently their numbers are declining and their abundance is often determined by the goodwill of householders... This may mean that soon the humans on this property will not be able to be easily spotted through all the turkeys. Visitors will have to wade through acres of turkeys to find the humans!

The rainforest is thriving and returning here.... Thanks to the help of the bush turkey. that's a lot of turkeys! Australian bush turkey? I just looked it up. There pretty bird's.

[hallow]

This is a lovely idea Hallow.... sometimes ones thoughts have to go somewhere. Even if there pointless. My brain wanders all night long. I have to be up at night when the rest of the world sleeps. But there's nothing like the silence and Stars of 3am. There's a special peace in the darkness. A special connection to the Earth during the 5 min of twilight 2xs a day. During those times you can feel the Earth going into it's daily peaceful slumber also you can feel it waking up and taking stretch getting ready for the busy day ahead.

[RedEmbers]

That is the one... they are very friendly birds amongst us mortals, always eager to come inside for dinner.

In the local language they are called "wogon" or "wogan", I am uncertain of the correct spelling. It is an onomatepia word which means that it is named after the sound it makes. A sound which I have rarely heard if I am honest... They are not overly vocal creatures.

I am fairly certain that "kookaburra" is also an onomatepia word as well....kind of a fun sound to impersonate in a laughing tone. I love our Aussie birds hahaha.

[hallow]

That is the one... they are very friendly birds amongst us mortals, always eager to come inside for dinner.

In the local language they are called "wogon" or "wogan", I am uncertain of the correct spelling. It is an onomatepia word which means that it is named after the sound it makes. A sound which I have rarely heard if I am honest... They are not overly vocal creatures.

I am fairly certain that "kookaburra" is also an onomatepia word as well....kind of a fun sound to impersonate in a laughing tone. I love our Aussie birds hahaha. wish they were around here. They look like fun. https://youtu.be/kBOtg4nkkHI

[Altair]

Last night was okay. The three nights before.... MOSQUITOES.

[RedEmbers]

wish they were around here. They look like fun. https://youtu.be/kBOtg4nkkHI

Lol... Very fitting indeed. Those turkeys go bananas for bananas.

We had a banana plantation here and we had to learn to outsmart such creatures to ensure we could harvest a steady supply of the herb/fruit. I am never sure if the humans win or if the animals win! I am pretty certain that turkey intelligence trumps human intelligence most of the time.

I respect the turkeys though, without them, no rainforest, without the rainforest, no life :D

[RedEmbers]

Last night was okay. The three nights before.... MOSQUITOES.


I am so glad that we have mosquitos and yet no malaria or ross river fever! Yay.... Winning! Inspite of the lack of mosquito born diseases though... They still manage to keep me awake at night with their high pitched squealing and insatiable desires for my blood.

[Hologram8]

I am incapable of sleeping - it will not happen without drugs - I have to take a huge dose of medicine at night to sleep ----


I have been the worlds worst insomniac all of my life -- it's a curse and it's suffering -

thank god for medication

[Elfin]

Hi... I went through a period of insomnia.... It's SO frustrating... I saw a link from a doctor that swears by this.... Going back to when (can't remember details).... There was a group of "people" that adopted this approach ... They went to bed, about 9pm... And slept for 3/4 hours ....then they got up and did things.... Housework... Cooking a meal.. even socialising for an hour or so... Visiting neighbours etc. Then after a couple of hours they went back to bed for another 3/ 4 hours ..... He swore blind it worked. I tried this... As my problem wasn't getting to sleep... It was staying asleep.... And it Does work...!!!....

[Altair]

I am so glad that we have mosquitos and yet no malaria or ross river fever! Yay.... Winning! Inspite of the lack of mosquito born diseases though... They still manage to keep me awake at night with their high pitched squealing and insatiable desires for my blood.

I can be in deep sleep but their noise will wake me up. The best situation is one where you gotta deal with a big fat mosquito. They are slow and easy to spot. The smaller ones are a real problem to spot. Keeping the lights on can help keep them at bay but then I can't really sleep with a light on.

Bloody mosquitoes!

[dream jo]

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[hallow]

I can be in deep sleep but their noise will wake me up. The best situation is one where you gotta deal with a big fat mosquito. They are slow and easy to spot. The smaller ones are a real problem to spot. Keeping the lights on can help keep them at bay but then I can't really sleep with a light on.

Bloody mosquitoes!
Mosquitos are my most hated creature. That buzzing in the ear is the worst as well. A fan really helps to keep them away too. There horrible flyer's a fan will blow them away.

[hallow]

I am incapable of sleeping - it will not happen without drugs - I have to take a huge dose of medicine at night to sleep ----


I have been the worlds worst insomniac all of my life -- it's a curse and it's suffering -

thank god for medication have you tried sleeping during the day? Some people are simply night people like I am. My whole life I had problems sleeping at night because.....I was wide awake. Now I work and live at night, and sleep like a rock during the day. Someone has to make sure the rest of the world is safe at night:D :tongue:

[Elfin]

I am incapable of sleeping - it will not happen without drugs - I have to take a huge dose of medicine at night to sleep ----


I have been the worlds worst insomniac all of my life -- it's a curse and it's suffering -

thank god for medication
Hi.... There is absolutely nothing worse ... This must be dreadful... I have brief periods of insomnia... Well I don't even know if you'd call it insomnia, I can go to sleep, but I can't stay asleep... Tonight is a case in point .. 3 and a half hours and I'm awake again, and up now.

[Elfin]

have you tried sleeping during the day? Some people are simply night people like I am. My whole life I had problems sleeping at night because.....I was wide awake. Now I work and live at night, and sleep like a rock during the day. Someone has to make sure the rest of the world is safe at night:D :tongue:
..... Ah so you are one of the night hero's looking after us while we (try) to sleep... This works well for you. Night work can create sleep problems for some if they are not used to it. My ex husband went through a period of having to work nights, and he couldn't sleep at all during the day, especially in summer with all the noises outside... It's good that your lifestyle works for you...

[hallow]

..... Ah so you are one of the night hero's looking after us while we (try) to sleep... This works well for you. Night work can create sleep problems for some if they are not used to it. My ex husband went through a period of having to work nights, and he couldn't sleep at all during the day, especially in summer with all the noises outside... It's good that your lifestyle works for you... I agree, everyone is different. It's most natural for people to be awake during the day. But every now and then a weird gene happens. If you fight what is natural for you as a individual you often run into problems. Up until I started working I had a lot of problems with sleep. I struggled in school and at day time jobs because my brain DID NOT even start to function right until later in the day, buy that time everything was done. I been like that for as long as I can remember. Don't fight it, go with it and make it work for you.

[hallow]

Hi.... There is absolutely nothing worse ... This must be dreadful... I have brief periods of insomnia... Well I don't even know if you'd call it insomnia, I can go to sleep, but I can't stay asleep... Tonight is a case in point .. 3 and a half hours and I'm awake again, and up now.
My wife has the same problem but she's going through mentapouse and blame's it on hormones. Hahaha. I would hate to be a woman dealing with that. It sounds like a rollercoaster ride I wouldn't want to be on. Actually I am 3/4s on that ride but at my age I have learned NOT to mess with a woman that's having hormone problems. No man will survive. Hahaha

[Elfin]

I agree, everyone is different. It's most natural for people to be awake during the day. But every now and then a weird gene happens. If you fight what is natural for you as a individual you often run into problems. Up until I started working I had a lot of problems with sleep. I struggled in school and at day time jobs because my brain DID NOT even start to function right until later in the day, buy that time everything was done. I been like that for as long as I can remember. Don't fight it, go with it and make it work for you.
Absolutly right.... I personally like to go to bed early and rise very early... I value those few hours from about 4am to 8am..ish.... As "my" time......

[Elfin]

My wife has the same problem but she's going through mentapouse and blame's it on hormones. Hahaha. I would hate to be a woman dealing with that. It sounds like a rollercoaster ride I wouldn't want to be on. Actually I am 3/4s on that ride but at my age I have learned NOT to mess with a woman that's having hormone problems. No man will survive. Hahaha
LOL....you are a VERY wise man..... I used to say I could save the government BILLIONS of pound, All they had to do was sack all the army , and send in a lone , menapausal woman... (Namely me!)..... And the enemy wouldn't stand a chance !!!!..... I'm over all that now, thank goodness... But I can promise you, if your dear wife does have mood swings, she really really cannot help it.... We really cannot control them... They are a law unto themselves...and it will pass.......eventually !!

[hallow]

LOL....you are a VERY wise man..... I used to say I could save the government BILLIONS of pound, All they had to do was sack all the army , and send in a lone , menapausal woman... (Namely me!)..... And the enemy wouldn't stand a chance !!!!..... I'm over all that now, thank goodness... But I can promise you, if your dear wife does have mood swings, she really really cannot help it.... We really cannot control them... They are a law unto themselves...and it will pass.......eventually !! I know she can't control it. We talk about it often. From what I hear from other women going through it. I think she's dealing with it better than most. From a male point of view it's a strange thing to experience. It's like a totally different person briefly comes out. Been dealing with it for nearly 5 years now. Most of what I notice she becomes almost frantic. She starts zipping around the house cleaning stuff like a crazy person. Think it's her way to deal with whatever is going on, that's the worse of it so I really can't complain. I Hurd a lot worse stories from other woman. Most guys don't talk about it at all. The mention of "hormones" to most guys send a sharp spear of pain and fear down there spine. Think it's just an instinctive fear drilled into our DNA over hundreds of thousands of years.

[ant]

And so too will everything will pass,as it should.

IF we like it or not.

Such is life.

[ant]

I know she can't control it. We talk about it often. From what I hear from other women going through it. I think she's dealing with it better than most. From a male point of view it's a strange thing to experience. It's like a totally different person briefly comes out. Been dealing with it for nearly 5 years now. Most of what I notice she becomes almost frantic. She starts zipping around the house cleaning stuff like a crazy person. Think it's her way to deal with whatever is going on, that's the worse of it so I really can't complain. I Hurd a lot worse stories from other woman. Most guys don't talk about it at all. The mention of "hormones" to most guys send a sharp spear of pain and fear down there spine. Think it's just an instinctive fear drilled into our DNA over hundreds of thousands of years.

Hello hallow,

Try putting a shoe on another perspective,not your viewpoint and or gender.

[hallow]

Hello hallow,

Try putting a shoe on another perspective,not your viewpoint and or gender.
What do you mean? I have no doubt going through hormone stuff is really hard on the person dealing with them. My wife and I talk about it often. I do my best to understand what's going on so I can be supportive or simply stay out of the way. Whatever option is needed at that moment.

[Elfin]

I know she can't control it. We talk about it often. From what I hear from other women going through it. I think she's dealing with it better than most. From a male point of view it's a strange thing to experience. It's like a totally different person briefly comes out. Been dealing with it for nearly 5 years now. Most of what I notice she becomes almost frantic. She starts zipping around the house cleaning stuff like a crazy person. Think it's her way to deal with whatever is going on, that's the worse of it so I really can't complain. I Hurd a lot worse stories from other woman. Most guys don't talk about it at all. The mention of "hormones" to most guys send a sharp spear of pain and fear down there spine. Think it's just an instinctive fear drilled into our DNA over hundreds of thousands of years.
.... It really CAN be a most difficult time for a lady.... And in a way you're right... We do turn into different people... And it can be very distressing for both partners...because of course the husband has to go through it too... Many marriages have ended because of it... And worse !.... You sound like you are dealing with it really well and supporting her the best you can...which is admirable... Many men cannot cope. ( To be honest with you, best way I can describe it, it's like being possessed!)... But you will both come through it. Can take several years... But you WILL get your wife back... And she will get "herself" back...

[hallow]

.... It really CAN be a most difficult time for a lady.... And in a way you're right... We do turn into different people... And it can be very distressing for both partners...because of course the husband has to go through it too... Many marriages have ended because of it... And worse !.... You sound like you are dealing with it really well and supporting her the best you can...which is admirable... Many men cannot cope. ( To be honest with you, best way I can describe it, it's like being possessed!)... But you will both come through it. Can take several years... But you WILL get your wife back... And she will get "herself" back... I know we will.:smile: I also work in a field dominated older women and hear there stories as well. I am far from new to it. My wife and I often joke about it when it comes and goes. One instance we joke about was when she was 8mo. pregnant with her first husband. Some road work was being done I. Front of her house and she returned from grocery shopping and parked the car in front of the house. A construction worker came to her and told her she can't park there. Long story short, I am sure the worker won't do that again.

[Elfin]

I know we will.:smile: I also work in a field dominated older women and hear there stories as well. I am far from new to it. My wife and I often joke about it when it comes and goes. One instance we joke about was when she was 8mo. pregnant with her first husband. Some road work was being done I. Front of her house and she returned from grocery shopping and parked the car in front of the house. A construction worker came to her and told her she can't park there. Long story short, I am sure the worker won't do that again.
....LOL.... Ah yes... Hormones during pregnancy too..!!!... They certainly have a lot to answer for..!!....

[hallow]

....LOL.... Ah yes... Hormones during pregnancy too..!!!... They certainly have a lot to answer for..!!....
I do my best to understand what's going on and be supportive. It's not anyone's fault I know it's no fun for the woman. When the hormones are out of whack, I ride out the storm. When it's past I let her know I love her. Nothing more I can do.

[Elfin]

I do my best to understand what's going on and be supportive. It's not anyone's fault I know it's no fun for the woman. When the hormones are out of whack, I ride out the storm. When it's past I let her know I love her. Nothing more I can do.
No...and of course it's no-ones fault. It's all part of nature... And you can do no more than you do...just keep telling her you love her ... That will be all she needs to hear .

[Elfin]

P.s.....shouldnt you be sleeping ?..Lol....

[hallow]

No...and of course it's no-ones fault. It's all part of nature... And you can do no more than you do...just keep telling her you love her ... That will be all she needs to hear . still think there should be a male support group for the topic. :rolleyes:

[Elfin]

Oh no...sorry ...scrap that... It's probably your night time !!!.....

[Elfin]

still think there should be a male support group for the topic. :rolleyes:
..... I was actually thinking that?... Could you start one on here lol..

[hallow]

..... I was actually thinking that?... Could you start one on here lol..
I don't know how appropriate a topic like that would be a forum like this. Sometimes when a group gets together they say dumb stuff only for the sake of blowing off steam. I am sure someone else could take offense if that were to happen.

[Elfin]

I don't know how appropriate a topic like that would be a forum like this. Sometimes when a group gets together they say dumb stuff only for the sake of blowing off steam. I am sure someone else could take offense if that were to happen.
I not so sure Hallow... They seem to talk about pretty much everything on here... There's the health section of course.. although I know it's not an illness as such. Might be worth looking through the lists and seeing what topics are covered. Or even maybe in lounge, or general beliefs. It might be worth a go ...maybe for men and women to chat about. Sometimes it does just help to chat. Because no-one can stop the process of it... Every woman goes through it... And many husband's have to live through it...I cannot see anyone being negative... Some people might have a little chuckle.. as I did saying chuck army out, send me in lol... But that's only because I DO know... If you wanted to think about it, let me know, I will support you with it.

[hallow]

I not so sure Hallow... They seem to talk about pretty much everything on here... There's the health section of course.. although I know it's not an illness as such. Might be worth looking through the lists and seeing what topics are covered. Or even maybe in lounge, or general beliefs. It might be worth a go ...maybe for men and women to chat about. Sometimes it does just help to chat. Because no-one can stop the process of it... Every woman goes through it... And many husband's have to live through it...I cannot see anyone being negative... Some people might have a little chuckle.. as I did saying chuck army out, send me in lol... But that's only because I DO know... If you wanted to think about it, let me know, I will support you with it.. Hhhhhhmmmmm, didn't think about the health section. I have too start getting people up for the day soon, I'll look into it tomorrow.

[Elfin]

. Hhhhhhmmmmm, didn't think about the health section. I have too start getting people up for the day soon, I'll look into it tomorrow.
....That's ok.. no rush. It's food for thought. Take care...

[Honza]

It is 3:00am here and I am wide awake!

[hallow]

Was driving to work today at 7:45 pm. I noticed now the sun is at the horizon. After today because of my work and lifestyle, I am going to see the sun only 3 hrs a day until spring. It's still warm out but the glorious sun is fading into the darkness of winter. In spiritual terms, a darkness where you learn to make your own light and not to fear the dark but to dance in it.

[hallow]

Recently I been looking for certain answers about religion. I couldn't find anything that made any logical/spiritual since. Until I read this written on a different thread, one I typically wouldn't even think about looking at..... Someone else wrote this.


my current opinion , religions had been a " social guidance" for human for perhaps thousand of years , with religions human perhaps had created customs , lifestyles and knowledge of the right verses the wrong and also the good act verses bad act .............but as human developed and population increased the role by religions is decreased ....now we have a system that more detail exceptable by all as we know it as Civil law....a written rules that certified ............but I of the current opinion as human developed into more advance stages from now ..perhaps hundreds years from now ....the knowledge of right and wrong , good or bad perhaps is not serve as a knowledge but a realization ...human will understand themselves far better than now ........human perhaps will developed into a sociaty that does not need civil law to guide or protect them ....and human will perhaps continue to developed and ...perhaps the final stage is self realization...Buddhism .
Buddhism to me is a process of knowing , discovering , understanding , experiencing OWNSELF by being awake by own realization leading to acceptance of ownself and own purity ..............there is no beliefs , no faith , no referral to Buddhism ...........

So perhaps in all solution of arguement , question on all action or re-action , answer to all question about life .......to me there is only one answer ... Buddhism .........

[Altair]

After today because of my work and lifestyle, I am going to see the sun only 3 hrs a day until spring.
It is strange to think of it. It’s the same here. It will be months of grey sky and darkness.... :confused5:

[hallow]

http://fox11online.com/news/local/cdc-abruptly-changes-covid-testing-guidelines. This article blowes me away.

[hallow]

It's a beautiful night tonight. 59°f and a gentle breeze from the west. The full moon is shining bright in the clear sky. Bright enough I can make shadow hand puppets in the grass.�� All I hear tonight are the crickets. I look into the sky and see a passing airplane high in the night sky. All this is clearing my mind. This couldn't happen during the day. Looking to the sky during the day, the bright light would burn anyone's eyes.

[Elfin]

It's a beautiful night tonight. 59°f and a gentle breeze from the west. The full moon is shining bright in the clear sky. Bright enough I can make shadow hand puppets in the grass.�� All I hear tonight are the crickets. I look into the sky and see a passing airplane high in the night sky. All this is clearing my mind. This couldn't happen during the day. Looking to the sky during the day, the bright light would burn anyone's eyes.
Hi Hallow..... That sounds lovely...

[hallow]

Hi Hallow..... That sounds lovely...
It's a beautiful night out tonight. Sucks to be at work, but I have to enjoy it when I can. 2 nights left for the week. Hope the weather doesn't change much and I can enjoy the night off the clock

[Elfin]

It's a beautiful night out tonight. Sucks to be at work, but I have to enjoy it when I can. 2 nights left for the week. Hope the weather doesn't change much and I can enjoy the night off the clock
Hopefully..!!..... I used to have to get up in the dark and go over to my shop super early... I used to love that time of day, seeing the sunrise over the sea .. so peaceful... Felt like only myself and the birds there before the day began.... I used to go to watch the full moon too , rise over the sea in the dark... That is quite magical too....

[hallow]

Hopefully..!!..... I used to have to get up in the dark and go over to my shop super early... I used to love that time of day, seeing the sunrise over the sea .. so peaceful... Felt like only myself and the birds there before the day began.... I used to go to watch the full moon too , rise over the sea in the dark... That is quite magical too.... I don't live near an ocean but the next best thing. Lake Michigan. It's a great place to watch the Stars and the moon and sun rise. I like sitting in the harbor and watch the boats come and go.

[Elfin]

I don't live near an ocean but the next best thing. Lake Michigan. It's a great place to watch the Stars and the moon and sun rise. I like sitting in the harbor and watch the boats come and go.
I have just looked up some images of the lake....WOW... That's a lake?.... It looks like the ocean!!!!..... Lovely....

[hallow]

It can be a very pretty lake. I lived in a lot of places in my life I can't stand the town I live in. But I call the lake home. I love waking up to it, watching the seagulls fly around and beg for food. I love I can take a short walk to the shore at night and watch the Stars and see the milky way. That lake taught me a lot.

[Elfin]

It can be a very pretty lake. I lived in a lot of places in my life I can't stand the town I live in. But I call the lake home. I love waking up to it, watching the seagulls fly around and beg for food. I love I can take a short walk to the shore at night and watch the Stars and see the milky way. That lake taught me a lot.
Lovely...it's important to find a peaceful place to be that you love ....amid chaos/ life/ towns/ cities.. I lived all my life in a very large city... Nothing but buildings!... I moved to where I am to find some peace. Beach/ sea at the end of the street.. and if I walk 5 minutes in other direction I'm surrounded by miles and miles of countryside. I look out of my kitchen window and see all the seagulls on the rooftops..I love the seagulls too.

[janielee]

Hi ................

[hallow]

Hi ................
Hi janielee

[janielee]

Sleepless or day, hallow? :)

[hallow]

Sleepless or day, hallow? :)
It's 4am at my end. I work nights so I have to be awake. Hahahaha. I have a lot of time to waste.

[janielee]

Ahhhhhh got it :)

[Elfin]

Ahhhhhh got it :)
Hi.... What about you?.... It's my daylight.... Mid morning,.. but still in house since march during lockdown... Are you sleepless?

[janielee]

Hi.... What about you?.... It's my daylight.... Mid morning,.. but still in house since march during lockdown... Are you sleepless?

Hi Elfin!

Pleased to meet you - you are quite a person aren't you, haha, spreading light and cheer wherever you go!

Yes I was sleepless, as usual :icon_frown:

Love

JL :hug3:

[Elfin]

Hi Elfin!

Pleased to meet you - you are quite a person aren't you, haha, spreading light and cheer wherever you go!

Yes I was sleepless, as usual :icon_frown:

Love

JL :hug3:
Hi... Nice to meet you too... AM I?.... LOL.... I try to be !!! Ahh but it's awful when you can't sleep.... At least you know you pop on this thread and there will usually be someone around to chat to .....

[janielee]

Yeah that's nice, thanks Elfin :smile:

[Hologram8]

I am incapable of sleeping - it will not happen without drugs - I have to take a huge dose of medicine at night to sleep ----


I have been the worlds worst insomniac all of my life -- it's a curse and it's suffering -

thank god for medication

I changed apartments to get away from the sewer gas and they put me right next to a busy road - it is so loud that I can't even see straight - my window is right next to the street - there are loud mufflers and loud motorcycles -& sirens - don't forget the sirens & the light rail - there is also a sidewalk right by my window where loud mouthed evil people spew negativity at 2:00 in the morning -

not even my medication will let me sleep now -- it seems I just can't win

loud mufflers should be outlawed - I always wonder why people put buzzbomb mufflers on their cars - are they trying to be a menace ? is their goal to disturb the peace ? -- it is so loud - at least in the sewer gas filled apartment it was quiet most of the time
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.I was just getting ready to start a lot of guided meditation as well -- it will probably be impossible now with all of the noise
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[BigJohn]

I changed apartments to get away from the sewer gas and they put me right next to a busy road - it is so loud that I can't even see straight - my window is right next to the street - there are loud mufflers and loud motorcycles -& sirens - don't forget the sirens & the light rail - there is also a sidewalk right by my window where loud mouthed evil people spew negativity at 2:00 in the morning -

not even my medication will let me sleep now -- it seems I just can't win

loud mufflers should be outlawed - I always wonder why people put buzzbomb mufflers on their cars - are they trying to be a menace ? is their goal to disturb the peace ? -- it is so loud - at least in the sewer gas filled apartment it was quiet most of the time
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.I was just getting ready to start a lot of guided meditation as well -- it will probably be impossible now with all of the noise
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I am the opposite of you.

I am out in less then 1 minute.

I once left Los Vegas, Nevada, USA and flew to Chicago.
I fell asleep before we took off and woke up when my ears was popping as we were about to land.

The worst case was when I left Taipei, Taiwan on a 14 hour flight to Los Angeles when I fell asleep before the plane took off and woke up when the plane was landing. I was in first class were you have your own private area and the wide chair folds down to a flat bed. I missed both meals which are unbelievable delicious!

[Deidre]

I’ve purchased the app Calm and it has several “sleep stories” that weirdly enough, put me to sleep. Celebs as narrators. I really find it helpful for bouts of insomnia.

[hallow]

I changed apartments to get away from the sewer gas and they put me right next to a busy road - it is so loud that I can't even see straight - my window is right next to the street - there are loud mufflers and loud motorcycles -& sirens - don't forget the sirens & the light rail - there is also a sidewalk right by my window where loud mouthed evil people spew negativity at 2:00 in the morning -

not even my medication will let me sleep now -- it seems I just can't win

loud mufflers should be outlawed - I always wonder why people put buzzbomb mufflers on their cars - are they trying to be a menace ? is their goal to disturb the peace ? -- it is so loud - at least in the sewer gas filled apartment it was quiet most of the time
.
.I was just getting ready to start a lot of guided meditation as well -- it will probably be impossible now with all of the noise
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I have to sleep during the day. And have neighbors who like to use power tools like saws and impact wrenches. Just once I would love to mow my lawn or start up a chainsaw at 3am :D

[hallow]

I’ve purchased the app Calm and it has several “sleep stories” that weirdly enough, put me to sleep. Celebs as narrators. I really find it helpful for bouts of insomnia. I have seen those commercials I can see how that would work.

[Hologram8]

I have to sleep during the day. And have neighbors who like to use power tools like saws and impact wrenches. Just once I would love to mow my lawn or start up a chainsaw at 3am :D
neighbors can be extremely rude, inconsiderate, and downright evil
I hate being a renter - it is communism

[hallow]

neighbors can be extremely rude, inconsiderate, and downright evil
I hate being a renter - it is communism hahaha. It's not rude. It's just what people do during the day. People mow lawns and work on projects in there garage.
I remember a few years ago I had a neighbor who rarely mowed there lawn but whenever they did they wouldn't pick up there garbage in there yard first. The sound of the mower hitting rocks and other garbage was the most annoying.

[Deidre]

I have seen those commercials I can see how that would work.
Yea, at first I was skeptical but I’ve been using this app for six months and it really works.

[lancing]

The Calm app is on point and legit (meaning the ****, awesome, all that,etc)! I've been using it for like three years...it's legit! :D I think you would like it Hallow...or anyone else who wants to try it.

Yet still, this is me most of the time...

https://media.tenor.com/images/6601f75630238e46684cec6d7559378f/tenor.gif

Fair warning...

[Arjhan]

I had to take a benadryl (anti-histamine) this afternoon and ended up napping for over two hours. I don't know when I'll get sleepy now...

[hallow]

OMG! I just noticed the last 2 "names" of where the person's location is. Added to mine it's funny.

[hallow]

The Calm app is on point and legit (meaning the ****, awesome, all that,etc)! I've been using it for like three years...it's legit! :D I think you would like it Hallow...or anyone else who wants to try it.

Yet still, this is me most of the time...

https://media.tenor.com/images/6601f75630238e46684cec6d7559378f/tenor.gif

Fair warning...
I have to say awake. I am at work. I work in 8 bed adult group home. Everyone sleeps here through the night. The hardest thing is coping with the intense boredom. From 11pm to 6am there's nothing to do but watch old sitcoms and think. It's a little after 3am here now.

[bobjob]

I'm arriving late in this thread and I apologise for not having read it through. :redface: But I'm going to add a few thoughts....

I'm mightily relieved that I've never experienced chronic sleeplessness. I've had odd nights where sleep has been elusive and I am very aware how bad they leave me feeling so I pity those for whom sleepless nights are a regular pattern. I don't know how they cope. :icon_frown:

Now I'm 73 and the medics say us old farts need more sleep as we age but I don't see how we can choose to get more. Oh sure we can avoid stuff that threatens good sleep - booze, eating late, caffeine, over-stimuli etc. - but we can't actually control the amount of sleep we get. Let me correct that - I CAN'T control the amount of sleep I get although I can influence it a little using OTC sleep-aids. But that's hardly desirable in the longer term.

[Honza]

12:15am and I'm wide awake.

[Altair]

Awake because of troubling dreams.. sigh.:-(

[Kiyae]

It's the middle of the night and I'm wide awake.

[dream jo]

yep on off bt herbl bathsss is sothng me

[Honza]

1:40 am. Wide awake.

[BigJohn]

1:40 am. Wide awake.

Generally, within 1 minute of closing my eyes....... Zzzzzzzz Zzzzzz Zzzzzzzzzzz

I was in a house once that caught on fire........
decided to go back to sleep.

[one-light]

Hi Hallow - I only just seen this thread ive been busy battling with a virus that's giving problems to so many of us, to put it mildly - just had time to step back a little, look around and seen this thread...

I don't know if this will help - its what I use in my free talks local, or did do before this virus got in my way - not finished with you yet covid - we're coming gunning for you - strength of mind, and strong immune systems will beat you, just teaching everyone local, got a lot of stuff going on in my town with a lot of support, and its growing around many local towns the support that is in the UK, 100's and 100's of shopkeepers over many towns and two cities now - I'm coming for you bad virus, coming for you soon....... Sorry about that everyone - just having a a rant, I feel so much better now...

Anyway have a look at this see if just 'one thing' helps then its worth my time, good luck... everyone, you don't have to read all this unless sleeping is a problem...

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Better Sleeping / Nodding off Solutions

With all thats going on in our world at the moment, here is a bit of information on better sleep - this is more important than ever in 'our' fight against viruses and keeping our immune system 'high' - a good nights sleep......

The mind doesn't get a rest when sleeping, because of all the dreaming, it's always on the go, none stop - so we have to help make it have a rest, as in meditation.

When lying awake in the early hours, the mind likes to connect to problems and issues of the previous day or tomorrow or next week, and any problems the mind can find, it will, and dwell on them and keep you awake... So how to stop this - find the mind something to think about, and keep it busy with nice thoughts, to help you get some sleep.

I have some ideas... A year ago I was researching Mantra Meditation, do any of you know what a Mantra is? It's when in deep rest as in meditating you repeat a phrase like na ma na ma or I am that I am - repeating it over and over, to clear your mind of 'mental chatter' eg - troublesome thoughts, to give your mind a rest.

So when researching all these suggested mantra meditation phrases, I made some of my own - food related, so I started to think apple pie and custard, you just think the words over and over - then I went one step further and I thought when repeating the words over and over, I wonder if you can taste it, and you can - also chocolate cake, I can taste that as well... Just make sure you are slightly hungry, tastes better then.

You can use mind power to imagine flying around the park, or by the side of a canal or on a beach, or for instance over a golf course, or down by a river. So we just keep those options in our minds for a moment.

All this is to keep the mind busy with nice thoughts, to stop it wandering off thinking of day to day problems, which to be honest can be sorted out tomorrow, better to get good sleep.

So use your mind to imagine preparing yourself a nice big zero calorie chocolate cake, nicely finished off with chocolate all around the sides and chocolate covered all over the top - or a walnut cake or a lemon drizzel cake, and neatly sliced into 8 sections.

Then using your mind, imagine flying around your local park, eating cake, in which ever order you like - set the scene to create your play as in theater or on TV, you will have time to do this while lying awake, the goal here is to make it a short one to be continued.

And if you want to enhance the play, imagine your favorite singer or actor bringing you a slice of zero calorie cake of your choice, you can do this it's mind power at its best.

I would ease back on the food, violent films, and internet before going to bed

An important part of getting a good nights sleep is 'gratitude' - think of several things just before going to bed that you've done that please you during the day or last week.

Also just before retiring and in the morning first thing - recite in 'your mind' high energy words 'lovely gorgeous beautiful light' or something similar, several times. These are all high energy words that bring strength and relaxation to your body.

If you think someone you know will benefit reading this - just email it over

And if the chocolate cake and flying around the park doesn't work - bring out the number two plan - imagine an ice cream 'mr whippy style' - you know on a hot day and you get an ice cream with a flake in, just imagine eating it, that'll help you go to sleep.

[Honza]

5:10am Wide Awake.

[ant]

5:10am Wide Awake.

The early bird catches the worm.

[one-light]

it anyone's interested at all re sleeping problems, this might help...

https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=134417&page=26

[BigJohn]

The early bird catches the worm.

Where I live.... we do not have worms.

Never seen one .... here.

[Honza]

Okay it is now 2:43am and I am wide awake.

[BigJohn]

Okay it is now 2:43am and I am wide awake.

Have you thought about cutting about 1 - 3 full cords of wood?
and then go out and count the sheep. When you are done counting the sheep, count them again.

[Honza]

Yesterday I fell asleep at 4:30am. Today I feel it is going to be the same.

[Hologram8]

without my sleep medication ~ I am unable to function as a human being ~ due to the worlds worst case of insomnia ~ it's an evil curse

[Honza]

without my sleep medication ~ I am unable to function as a human being ~ due to the worlds worst case of insomnia ~ it's an evil curse

My sympathies to you. :hug:

[serenebluehills]

Hi Hallow - I only just seen this thread ive been busy battling with a virus that's giving problems to so many of us, to put it mildly - just had time to step back a little, look around and seen this thread...

I don't know if this will help - its what I use in my free talks local, or did do before this virus got in my way - not finished with you yet covid - we're coming gunning for you - strength of mind, and strong immune systems will beat you, just teaching everyone local, got a lot of stuff going on in my town with a lot of support, and its growing around many local towns the support that is in the UK, 100's and 100's of shopkeepers over many towns and two cities now - I'm coming for you bad virus, coming for you soon....... Sorry about that everyone - just having a a rant, I feel so much better now...

Anyway have a look at this see if just 'one thing' helps then its worth my time, good luck... everyone, you don't have to read all this unless sleeping is a problem...

--------
Better Sleeping / Nodding off Solutions

With all thats going on in our world at the moment, here is a bit of information on better sleep - this is more important than ever in 'our' fight against viruses and keeping our immune system 'high' - a good nights sleep......

The mind doesn't get a rest when sleeping, because of all the dreaming, it's always on the go, none stop - so we have to help make it have a rest, as in meditation.

When lying awake in the early hours, the mind likes to connect to problems and issues of the previous day or tomorrow or next week, and any problems the mind can find, it will, and dwell on them and keep you awake... So how to stop this - find the mind something to think about, and keep it busy with nice thoughts, to help you get some sleep.

I have some ideas... A year ago I was researching Mantra Meditation, do any of you know what a Mantra is? It's when in deep rest as in meditating you repeat a phrase like na ma na ma or I am that I am - repeating it over and over, to clear your mind of 'mental chatter' eg - troublesome thoughts, to give your mind a rest.

So when researching all these suggested mantra meditation phrases, I made some of my own - food related, so I started to think apple pie and custard, you just think the words over and over - then I went one step further and I thought when repeating the words over and over, I wonder if you can taste it, and you can - also chocolate cake, I can taste that as well... Just make sure you are slightly hungry, tastes better then.

You can use mind power to imagine flying around the park, or by the side of a canal or on a beach, or for instance over a golf course, or down by a river. So we just keep those options in our minds for a moment.

All this is to keep the mind busy with nice thoughts, to stop it wandering off thinking of day to day problems, which to be honest can be sorted out tomorrow, better to get good sleep.

So use your mind to imagine preparing yourself a nice big zero calorie chocolate cake, nicely finished off with chocolate all around the sides and chocolate covered all over the top - or a walnut cake or a lemon drizzel cake, and neatly sliced into 8 sections.

Then using your mind, imagine flying around your local park, eating cake, in which ever order you like - set the scene to create your play as in theater or on TV, you will have time to do this while lying awake, the goal here is to make it a short one to be continued.

And if you want to enhance the play, imagine your favorite singer or actor bringing you a slice of zero calorie cake of your choice, you can do this it's mind power at its best.

I would ease back on the food, violent films, and internet before going to bed

An important part of getting a good nights sleep is 'gratitude' - think of several things just before going to bed that you've done that please you during the day or last week.

Also just before retiring and in the morning first thing - recite in 'your mind' high energy words 'lovely gorgeous beautiful light' or something similar, several times. These are all high energy words that bring strength and relaxation to your body.

If you think someone you know will benefit reading this - just email it over

And if the chocolate cake and flying around the park doesn't work - bring out the number two plan - imagine an ice cream 'mr whippy style' - you know on a hot day and you get an ice cream with a flake in, just imagine eating it, that'll help you go to sleep.


Take care and be well soon, one-light! :hug:

I wish I could easily visualize things as you have described above... I am not very good at visualization for some reason but able to visualize a few things just not as vivid as others can, I guess.

I do enjoy the peace and quiet that comes with night-time which is the positive side for me of having little and sometimes no sleep at night.

[serenebluehills]

Edit: Sorry, it got posted twice.

[serenebluehills]

without my sleep medication ~ I am unable to function as a human being ~ due to the worlds worst case of insomnia ~ it's an evil curse

So sorry to hear about your condition, Hologram8... I do hope things get better for you. :hug2:


Love,
serene

[BigJohn]

Take care and be well soon, one-light! :hug:

I wish I could easily visualize things as you have described above... I am not very good at visualization for some reason but able to visualize a few things just not as vivid as others can, I guess.

I do enjoy the peace and quiet that comes with night-time which is the positive side for me of having little and sometimes no sleep at night.

You can visualize......... you just need practice.

With your eyes open, visualize an Elephant looking at you and then looking fo you to giver her some food...........

[serenebluehills]

You can visualize......... you just need practice.

With your eyes open, visualize an Elephant looking at you and then looking fo you to giver her some food...........

Thanks, BigJohn! Perhaps I just need practice like you said.

I can "visualize" the elephant looking at me looking to give her some food just that it is not a clear image to me.

Love that image, btw! Thank you again! :smile:

[BigJohn]

Thanks, BigJohn! Perhaps I just need practice like you said.

I can "visualize" the elephant looking at me looking to give her some food just that it is not a clear image to me.

Love that image, btw! Thank you again! :smile:

If you can see the image of the Elephant and it is not clear means............. you have made a BIG step forward.

While you are enjoying your Elephant, why not give her a name so you are at least on first names?

[serenebluehills]

If you can see the image of the Elephant and it is not clear means............. you have made a BIG step forward.

While you are enjoying your Elephant, why not give her a name so you are at least on first names?

Yes! :smile:

I will give her a name... that is a great idea!

Thank you for the tips, BigJohn! :smile:

[BigJohn]

Yes! :smile:

I will give her a name... that is a great idea!

Thank you for the tips, BigJohn! :smile:

Actually...... I thank you for 'loving' Elephants......

Can you inform me of her name when you give it to her?

[serenebluehills]

Actually...... I thank you for 'loving' Elephants......

Can you inform me of her name when you give it to her?


I was just going to tell you in the other thread I will tell you when I have named them. I initially thought of Nala and then Mali but can't decide. :smile:

Loving elephants has come so naturally to me. I am thankful for this as well. I cannot imagine anyone not liking them at all, they are just adorable creatures. The manner they had appeared to me (and disappeared almost quickly) has been etched in my memory and still haunts me in a good way 20 years later!

[serenebluehills]

Actually...... I thank you for 'loving' Elephants......

Can you inform me of her name when you give it to her?

I will now settle with a name that just came to mind in honor of Ganesha... Esha, which sounds feminine to me.

I found Ganesha shortly after my vision/dream. I did elephant searches online, this was the start of my interest.

I will let you know later when I have named my two new friends. Or do they have names already? :smile:

I just realized we are off-topic here... are you sleepless?

[serenebluehills]

Generally, within 1 minute of closing my eyes....... Zzzzzzzz Zzzzzz Zzzzzzzzzzz

I was in a house once that caught on fire........
decided to go back to sleep.

There goes my answer! I thought I read you wrote this somewhere!

And wow, that would have made me unable to sleep all the more...

[girlsearching]

Who else is sleepless?: I have not been able to sleep soundly for the past 3 days. I toss and turn in my sleep, and the weird thing is that I don't have dreams anymore. I just wake up in the morning I blame the Full Moon in Gemini for this. :mad:

[BigJohn]

There goes my answer! I thought I read you wrote this somewhere!

And wow, that would have made me unable to sleep all the more...

LOL!.............

[BigJohn]

I will now settle with a name that just came to mind in honor of Ganesha... Esha, which sounds feminine to me.

I found Ganesha shortly after my vision/dream. I did elephant searches online, this was the start of my interest.

I will let you know later when I have named my two new friends. Or do they have names already? :smile:

I just realized we are off-topic here... are you sleepless?

I 'come to the Forum' a lot ...... I use that time for a 'break'.

[serenebluehills]

Who else is sleepless?: I have not been able to sleep soundly for the past 3 days. I toss and turn in my sleep, and the weird thing is that I don't have dreams anymore. I just wake up in the morning I blame the Full Moon in Gemini for this. :mad:

Girlsearching, I'm so sorry about this... I was experiencing the tossing and turning too for sometime weeks ago...

I just had a "magical" dream upon waking up yesterday here and have been wondering what might have caused it.

For a time I didn't get dreams as well... or didn't have recall upon waking. Wishing you get better sleep and start remembering your dreams again soon! :hug:

[serenebluehills]

I 'come to the Forum' a lot ...... I use that time for a 'break'.

BigJohn, I hope I didn't offend you by saying we were getting off-topic! I am so sorry if I did... I just realized that might have sounded different.

[girlsearching]

Girlsearching, I'm so sorry about this... I was experiencing the tossing and turning too for sometime weeks ago...

I just had a "magical" dream upon waking up yesterday here and have been wondering what might have caused it.

For a time I didn't get dreams as well... or didn't have recall upon waking. Wishing you get better sleep and start remembering your dreams again soon! :hug:
Thank you serenebluehills :hug: I hope my sleep gets better and I hope you also rest soundly and have happy dreams. I mentioned The Full Moon in Gemini cause there has been a full moon each night.

[BigJohn]

BigJohn, I hope I didn't offend you by saying we were getting off-topic! I am so sorry if I did... I just realized that might have sounded different.

It didn't bother me......
I get off topic myself every once in a while.

[serenebluehills]

It didn't bother me......
I get off topic myself every once in a while.

That is good to know! :smile:

[serenebluehills]

Thank you serenebluehills :hug: I hope my sleep gets better and I hope you also rest soundly and have happy dreams. I mentioned The Full Moon in Gemini cause there has been a full moon each night.

You're welcome, girlsearching! And thank you! My sleep has been a lot better these past few nights! :smile:

[hallow]

It's interesting how the energy shifts throughout the night. 12am until it peaks at 3am the energy can feel intense. The biggest most noticable shift happens between 3am and 4am. It still may be dark outside but around 4am the night turns into day. A strange sigh of relief usually comes over me at this time. Aaaahhhhh we made it through the night.

[girlsearching]

Who else is sleepless?: Well I'm not sleeping as you can tell. It's 12:42 am and I'm on here using my cellphone.

[hallow]

Who else is sleepless?: Well I'm not sleeping as you can tell. It's 12:42 am and I'm on here using my cellphone. no sleep for me tonight. Have 5 more hours of shear boredom to deal with.

[BigJohn]

no sleep for me tonight. Have 5 more hours of shear boredom to deal with.

You would have been jumping up and down at this one place I worked. It was technical work and we were able to get the minimum hours we had to work per week down to 100 hours...... that is over 14 hours each and every day.

and then........ we only got paid once a month!

[hallow]

You would have been jumping up and down at this one place I worked. It was technical work and we were able to get the minimum hours we had to work per week down to 100 hours...... that is over 14 hours each and every day.

and then........ we only got paid once a month!
I bet they were some nice paychecks

[hallow]

Was doing some reading about survival and prepping. Do what the animals do. In my area, I like to watch woodpeckers and squirrels. because of winter they have to prep every year. They collect food for winter and spread it out over a large area. One would think it would be easier to keep in near and in one place. But they have to deal with other animals stealing there food. If it's spread out, it all can't be stolen at once.