Another level of self knowledge

[MChang]

This lifetime I began my journey in earnest, with conscious intent, in 1997. I'm 62 now and I have learned so very much about myself, and my past lives, many of them as a Taoist. For myself, balance, has been the key. Balance of pairs and opposites of all the energy in the universe as it balances within the dual system that I am. If the energy of the moon can pull the waters of the oceans what does it do to us without our being aware of its effects on us?

I am a combination of the human animal man and the spiritual divine being I was/am before I took on human form. I believe we all are. We have both these energetic systems within us Heaven and Earth. This is at the core of what is hidden within Taoism. This system, what it is, how it acts on us and how we can use the knowledge of Taoism to stay in balance in our yellow middle unaffected by the energetic world around us and achieve the peace of Wu wei.

It is not as simple as thinking you are, but requires us to dig down through our past lives remembering, identifying all the unresolved "stuff' resolving it, removing it from our energy. I have been blessed/cursed with remembering. Very painful to remember, but very blessed to be walking through it.

It has been a long long trying taxing journey from the beginning to today, to this moment. I would not change a thing.

This morning I was shown that all that I have remembered and learned this lifetime I will carry with me into my next lifetime and I will remember from an early age what I have learned practicing Taoism over the eons. I feel truly blessed to have this knowing.

Brian

[Realm Ki]

This lifetime I began my journey in earnest, with conscious intent, in 1997. I'm 62 now and I have learned so very much about myself, and my past lives, many of them as a Taoist. For myself, balance, has been the key. Balance of pairs and opposites of all the energy in the universe as it balances within the dual system that I am. If the energy of the moon can pull the waters of the oceans what does it do to us without our being aware of its effects on us?

I am a combination of the human animal man and the spiritual divine being I was/am before I took on human form. I believe we all are. We have both these energetic systems within us Heaven and Earth. This is at the core of what is hidden within Taoism. This system, what it is, how it acts on us and how we can use the knowledge of Taoism to stay in balance in our yellow middle unaffected by the energetic world around us and achieve the peace of Wu wei.

It is not as simple as thinking you are, but requires us to dig down through our past lives remembering, identifying all the unresolved "stuff' resolving it, removing it from our energy. I have been blessed/cursed with remembering. Very painful to remember, but very blessed to be walking through it.

It has been a long long trying taxing journey from the beginning to today, to this moment. I would not change a thing.

This morning I was shown that all that I have remembered and learned this lifetime I will carry with me into my next lifetime and I will remember from an early age what I have learned practicing Taoism over the eons. I feel truly blessed to have this knowing.

Brian

That's wonderful news for you <3

But du you not also believe that time is an illusion and that all lives happen simultaneously, in the now. (But perceived as linear each?)

[django]

This lifetime I began my journey in earnest, with conscious intent, in 1997. I'm 62 now and I have learned so very much about myself, and my past lives, many of them as a Taoist. For myself, balance, has been the key. Balance of pairs and opposites of all the energy in the universe as it balances within the dual system that I am. If the energy of the moon can pull the waters of the oceans what does it do to us without our being aware of its effects on us?

I am a combination of the human animal man and the spiritual divine being I was/am before I took on human form. I believe we all are. We have both these energetic systems within us Heaven and Earth. This is at the core of what is hidden within Taoism. This system, what it is, how it acts on us and how we can use the knowledge of Taoism to stay in balance in our yellow middle unaffected by the energetic world around us and achieve the peace of Wu wei.

It is not as simple as thinking you are, but requires us to dig down through our past lives remembering, identifying all the unresolved "stuff' resolving it, removing it from our energy. I have been blessed/cursed with remembering. Very painful to remember, but very blessed to be walking through it.

It has been a long long trying taxing journey from the beginning to today, to this moment. I would not change a thing.

This morning I was shown that all that I have remembered and learned this lifetime I will carry with me into my next lifetime and I will remember from an early age what I have learned practicing Taoism over the eons. I feel truly blessed to have this knowing.

Brian


Hi Brian, I also have examined all the opposites I've come across within myself and resolved what needs to be resolved, and then harmonised what has been sorted. It's a fascinating journey, opposites are so fundamental, and sorting them so that they can function in tune naturally is my primary goal.

[FallingLeaves]

That's wonderful news for you <3

But du you not also believe that time is an illusion and that all lives happen simultaneously, in the now. (But perceived as linear each?)

some guy rather rudely pointed out that even if that is true, you could STILL measure changes in things. And the fact of being able to measure changes is of course what constitutes the definition of the measurement of time? So according to that you haven't gotten away from it but rather just run it off into the distance.

On those terms... it could be argued that the current seemingness of time that we have, while itself is an illusion, is an illusion constructed to instruct us about something we might not find so obvious in our 'natural' state where we don't have the crutch whatever that is. 5D or whatever is all the rage this week I guess...

the guy was only rude because it stopped me dead in my tracks and I couldn't preach what I was preaching any more lol! But good for him :smile:

well you asked?

[Petey]

Thanks, Brian. I can't think of one single concept that has been more helpful to me over the years than that of balance. Now, applying that might at times be downright painful, but it is a constant, both as a practice and as a way of looking at life.

[r6r6]

it could be argued that the current seemingness of time that we have, while itself is an illusion, is an illusion constructed to instruct us about something we might not find so obvious in our 'natural' state where we don't have the crutch whatever that is. 5D or whatever is all the rage this week I guess...?


Consciousness is the great illusion of 3D { XYZ } + Time { Observed }.


Jacob Bekentstiens black hole mathematics led him into holographic scenarios and to make the following statement to Scientific American.
..'we appear to be 2D creatures having an illusion of 3D'.....


The best way Ive come to grasp how we could be 2D having illusion of 3D + time is via the tetrahedron turning itself inside-out, via its 4 vertexes.


See LINK (https://www.quora.com/An-equilateral-triangle-of-side-6cm-is-inscribed-in-a-circle-How-do-I-find-the-radius-of-the-circle)



One vertex { nodal point } travels through the diametrically opposite triangular opening, however, at the half-way point we have a condition of 2D, as, a subdivided 2D triangle \Y/ { area as three smaller triangles enclosed by larger triangle } and gives a us a birds-eye-view of the tetrahedron.


So we can see this above as 2D piece of plywood or other substance, as soon as the center moves out of the 2D plane, we condition of warped 2D.



With the 2D subdivided triangle we see that as soon as the nuclear vertex moves outside of that plane we both;


1} a warped 2D { area } subdivided triangle, and,


2} a 3D { volume } tetrahedron.


* i * > 3D > 2D >- | -> 3D > * i *

[MChang]

That's wonderful news for you <3

But du you not also believe that time is an illusion and that all lives happen simultaneously, in the now. (But perceived as linear each?)

I have often wondered about multidimensional worlds, but it is beyond my knowing. Thanks Brian

[MChang]

Hi Brian, I also have examined all the opposites I've come across within myself and resolved what needs to be resolved, and then harmonised what has been sorted. It's a fascinating journey, opposites are so fundamental, and sorting them so that they can function in tune naturally is my primary goal.

Cool. Key for me is remembering that whatever I experience from other people, places, and things I use my freewill to react to, is just a mirror for something within myself. Thanks Brian

[MChang]

Thanks, Brian. I can't think of one single concept that has been more helpful to me over the years than that of balance. Now, applying that might at times be downright painful, but it is a constant, both as a practice and as a way of looking at life.

Take the Trigrams of Fu hsi, the earlier heaven ones from the I Ching, and the five agent theory components and lay them out on a circular grid. This is a 2D representation of all the energetic relationships on the universe. Key for us is to stay in the yellow middle, but the human brain center of consciousness experiences these emotions and this pulls us off center and when we pull off center we spin with the circular motion of the grid. Balancing this energy is a moment by moment task for each of us.

Thanks.

Brian

[MChang]

Consciousness is the great illusion of 3D { XYZ } + Time { Observed }.


Jacob Bekentstiens black hole mathematics led him into holographic scenarios and to make the following statement to Scientific American.
..'we appear to be 2D creatures having an illusion of 3D'.....


The best way Ive come to grasp how we could be 2D having illusion of 3D + time is via the tetrahedron turning itself inside-out, via its 4 vertexes.


See LINK (https://www.quora.com/An-equilateral-triangle-of-side-6cm-is-inscribed-in-a-circle-How-do-I-find-the-radius-of-the-circle)



One vertex { nodal point } travels through the diametrically opposite triangular opening, however, at the half-way point we have a condition of 2D, as, a subdivided 2D triangle \Y/ { area as three smaller triangles enclosed by larger triangle } and gives a us a birds-eye-view of the tetrahedron.


So we can see this above as 2D piece of plywood or other substance, as soon as the center moves out of the 2D plane, we condition of warped 2D.



With the 2D subdivided triangle we see that as soon as the nuclear vertex moves outside of that plane we both;


1} a warped 2D { area } subdivided triangle, and,


2} a 3D { volume } tetrahedron.


* i * > 3D > 2D >- | -> 3D > * i *

How about we are timeless pure spirit being housed in this human brain centered body, having a human experience. We shift our consciousness from Heart center spirit to brain center human back and forth back and forth.

Trick is to blend the two that already exists within us into one and create balance so we can stay in the yellow middle? Thanks. Brian

[r6r6]

MChang--How about we are timeless pure spirit being housed in this human brain centered body, having a human experience.

I have no idea what a "pure spirit" is. Ive gone through this with few others and they never have given any clarity in those regards.


Spirit-3 Gravity ( ) and Spirit-4 Dark Energy )( are the closest we come to "timeless" yet still an occupied space.

We shift our consciousness from Heart center spirit to brain center human back and forth back and forth.

You may need doctor to check your EKG's with more advanced physical. I had that done a year ago. They bring in machine to restart your heart just in case we have a heart attack when doing their rising treadmill test.


Trick is to blend the two that already exists within us into one and create balance so we can stay in the yellow middle? Thanks. Brian

The doctors didnt say anything to me about that. Good luck if you go in for the heart test. I dont think there is any brain test linked to it.

[MChang]

I have no idea what a "pure spirit" is. Ive gone through this with few others and they never have given any clarity in those regards.


Spirit-3 Gravity ( ) and Spirit-4 Dark Energy )( are the closest we come to "timeless" yet still an occupied space.



You may need doctor to check your EKG's with more advanced physical. I had that done a year ago. They bring in machine to restart your heart just in case we have a heart attack when doing their rising treadmill test.




The doctors didnt say anything to me about that. Good luck if you go in for the heart test. I dont think there is any brain test linked to it.


For me pure spirit is what we were before we took on human form. Pure Energy, just being, existing in the moment, no human brain based ideas or thoughts. Sharing the energy that exists in the cosmos with all other beings.

In Taoism there is a belief that is common that we are two halves yin/yang. male/female heaven/earth. The writing from the ancient Taoists speak of two centers of consciousness with each of us. One center is from our human side, the brain. The other center is from our spirit side the heart. We can only experience the world around us from one of these two in any given moment. The challenge is to know which is which in any given moment.

This what meditation does for me, it helps me discern the difference between the two and through the process of identifying and healing unresolved issues we work to blend the two into one center of consciousness,

This is what I believe is meant by The One.

Thanks.

Brian

[r6r6]

MChang--For me pure spirit is what we were before we took on human form.


This is not a clear definition of what your "pure spirit" is exactly.



Pure Energy, just being, existing in the moment, no human brain based ideas or thoughts. Sharing the energy that exists in the cosmos with all other beings.


So now you've gone from "pure spirit" to "pure energy". So are you now trying to say that "pure energy" and "pure spirit" are the same?


Either way, you still have not given any specifics that actually are very descriptive in detail of what either is.


"existing in the moment" is true of occupied space existence.


Bears have no human brain, nor do fish, or bacteria.


Not only that the brain is not base on thoughts. The brain is based on RNA-DNA.. I'm sorry but your not giving any rational, logical and clear, concise common sense definitions for your "pure spirit" this or "pure energy" that

[MChang]

This is not a clear definition of what your "pure spirit" is exactly.






So now you've gone from "pure spirit" to "pure energy". So are you now trying to say that "pure energy" and "pure spirit" are the same?


Either way, you still have not given any specifics that actually are very descriptive in detail of what either is.


"existing in the moment" is true of occupied space existence.


Bears have no human brain, nor do fish, or bacteria.


Not only that the brain is not base on thoughts. The brain is based on RNA-DNA.. I'm sorry but your not giving any rational, logical and clear, concise common sense definitions for your "pure spirit" this or "pure energy" that

Not sure what your interest is? Is it to learn or is it to refute? These things are experiential in their nature and words will always fall short of the experience.

If it very much like trying to describe how it feels to hit a shot in golf correctly to someone who does not know what golf is, but to someone who has had the experience they can understand.

It is what Laozi said of Taoism, "It is the Tao that cannot be spoken of."

Thanks.

Brian

[r6r6]

Not sure what your interest is?



Read my many lips/text messages in various thread and it is clear where my interests are, and how I put out effort much to define and described in specific detail with elaboration where needed



You and other like your self have very little to offer that in relevant definitive and descriptive detail, because, you really have nothing of significance to say, when ever you say "pure spirit" or "pure energy".


Basically meaningless words, empty of any true, significant or relevant content//information is all Ive seen from you and those like.


Just thought I would ask and find out if you were any differrent than the others. Now I know. Thanks for your attempts, irrespective of how far short the fall of clarity.



I will be moving on now. Bye.

[MChang]

Read my many lips/text messages in various thread and it is clear where my interests are, and how I put out effort much to define and described in specific detail with elaboration where needed



You and other like your self have very little to offer that in relevant definitive and descriptive detail, because, you really have nothing of significance to say, when ever you say "pure spirit" or "pure energy".


Basically meaningless words, empty of any true, significant or relevant content//information is all Ive seen from you and those like.


Just thought I would ask and find out if you were any differrent than the others. Now I know. Thanks for your attempts, irrespective of how far short the fall of clarity.



I will be moving on now. Bye.

Ok. so you are not here to learn just refute. Thanks for clarifying. Brian

[FallingLeaves]

Basically meaningless words, empty of any true, significant or relevant content//information is all Ive seen from you and those like.


so there is only one true way to relate? And we all fall short?

[MChang]

so there is only one true way to relate? And we all fall short?

I don't think we fall short, the words fall short of explaining the experience. If you and I have the same experience, whether together or individually, we can have a conversation, but for someone that hasn't it does not make any sense. Bless his journey we are all where we are supposed to be on our individual continuum, until we choose to change it. Take care. Brian

[Still_Waters]

It is not as simple as thinking you are, but requires us to dig down through our past lives remembering, identifying all the unresolved "stuff' resolving it, removing it from our energy. I have been blessed/cursed with remembering. Very painful to remember, but very blessed to be walking through it.



Your comment that it "requires us to dig down through our past lives" triggered something in me. While I understand the impact of past experiences and conditioning on how our developed tendencies influence us in the "now", I wonder whether it really is "required" to investigate past lives. It would seem that the problematic tendencies requiring the most immediate attention would manifest in the present and hence we should focus on the here-and-now present life.

The very fact that we are here now would seem to suggest that we should focus on what moved us to be here in the first place.

When some one once asked my teacher how to read past lives, she paused for a long time before responding: "Oh.... so you've already solved all the problems in this life?" Her message was clear.

[sea-dove]

While I understand the impact of past experiences and conditioning on how our developed tendencies influence us in the "now", I wonder whether it really is "required" to investigate past lives. It would seem that the problematic tendencies requiring the most immediate attention would manifest in the present and hence we should focus on the here-and-now present life.

The very fact that we are here now would seem to suggest that we should focus on what moved us to be here in the first place.

When some one once asked my teacher how to read past lives, she paused for a long time before responding: "Oh.... so you've already solved all the problems in this life?" Her message was clear.


Ive personally found that past lives are interesting to know as they do help one make more sense of this life time, it can help one make sense of fears one may have and make more sense of relationship issues one may have with another. Having that knowledge has made some things easier on me eg I can understand how my daughter feels the way she does about me.

With that being said I personally think pushing to know past lives could end up giving someone false memories, one naturally start remembering ones own past lives when it's time for that to be happening. Past life readings done by others can be dangerous as in someone may be given info they aren't able to handle and were not ready for.

[Still_Waters]

Ive personally found that past lives are interesting to know as they do help one make more sense of this life time, it can help one make sense of fears one may have and make more sense of relationship issues one may have with another. Having that knowledge has made some things easier on me eg I can understand how my daughter feels the way she does about me.

With that being said I personally think pushing to know past lives could end up giving someone false memories, one naturally start remembering ones own past lives when it's time for that to be happening. Past life readings done by others can be dangerous as in someone may be given info they aren't able to handle and were not ready for.

I agree with you and therapists in general who have effectively used past-life regressions to address issues in their current life.

However, I also agree with you that the quest for past life memories can result in issues like "false memories" and being "given info they aren't able to handle and were not ready for". The latter can be overwhelming.

In any case, I do appreciate your response even though I have not personally pursued the "past life" discovery approach.