I'm Being Messed With

[Shivani Devi]

You wouldn't believe it unless you saw It.

I wear a lanyard around my neck with my house key on it and my car key is on a separate key chain.

Today when I got into the car, my lanyard got caught on my seat belt...but it was the way in which it was caught... which could have only happened if the clasp at the end of the lanyard was undone, half the fabric of the seatbelt pushed through it and then the clasp done up again ON the fabric of the seat belt itself...and this all occurred in a split second.

I went to get my clothes off the line and left my sliding screen door open to do so. Now there's a recessed pin, tiny it is, inside the frame of the screen door... where it latches to close and it's not jutting out whatsoever and it is hardly noticeable.

As I walked through the door carrying an armfull of clothes off the line, a top got caught on this pin, but it was the way in which it was caught...One of those tiny pieces of ribbon inside the top, which are used to hang it on a coat hanger got caught around this pin...but the width of the ribbon was about three times wider than the length of the shaft of the recessed pin...and so it remained precariously dangling from it...A slight breeze could have dislodged it, but apparently not me walking by with an armfull of clothes.

I just took the top of a small jar of chili flakes to use in a stir fry and it was as if the lid flew out of my hand when I opened it, found the floor and then proceeded to roll far underneath the refrigerator...On the opposite side of the kitchen.

When stuff like this happens a few times a day, all I can do is sit down and cry, because it's so bloody ridiculous, it goes way beyond belief, I have no control over it and cannot stop it from happening and thus it stresses me out to the max, because I know that something is screwing with my mind and making my life very difficult and miserable for me and I want it stopped...I want it gone.

[captainamerica]

You wouldn't believe it unless you saw It.

I wear a lanyard around my neck with my house key on it and my car key is on a separate key chain.

Today when I got into the car, my lanyard got caught on my seat belt...but it was the way in which it was caught... which could have only happened if the clasp at the end of the lanyard was undone, half the fabric of the seatbelt pushed through it and then the clasp done up again ON the fabric of the seat belt itself...and this all occurred in a split second.

I went to get my clothes off the line and left my sliding screen door open to do so. Now there's a recessed pin, tiny it is, inside the frame of the screen door... where it latches to close and it's not jutting out whatsoever and it is hardly noticeable.

As I walked through the door carrying an armfull of clothes off the line, a top got caught on this pin, but it was the way in which it was caught...One of those tiny pieces of ribbon inside the top, which are used to hang it on a coat hanger got caught around this pin...but the width of the ribbon was about three times wider than the length of the shaft of the recessed pin...and so it remained precariously dangling from it...A slight breeze could have dislodged it, but apparently not me walking by with an armfull of clothes.

I just took the top of a small jar of chili flakes to use in a stir fry and it was as if the lid flew out of my hand when I opened it, found the floor and then proceeded to roll far underneath the refrigerator...On the opposite side of the kitchen.

When stuff like this happens a few times a day, all I can do is sit down and cry, because it's so bloody ridiculous, it goes way beyond belief, I have no control over it and cannot stop it from happening and thus it stresses me out to the max, because I know that something is screwing with my mind and making my life very difficult and miserable for me and I want it stopped...I want it gone.

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences.You already have health issues and now this.
Must be very overwhelming.

Goswami Kriyananda taught a method to prevent such happenings and also prevent spirits from messing with you.

I don't have the method but I know how to get it. The method works really well in a lot of cases ...

Would you like the method ?

[Shivani Devi]

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences.You already have health issues and now this.
Must be very overwhelming.

Goswami Kriyananda taught a method to prevent such happenings and also prevent spirits from messing with you.

I don't have the method but I know how to get it. The method works really well in a lot of cases ...

Would you like the method ?Yes please, because my health issues could also be due to bad spirits and bhootas messing with me...and I'm not in the position to go to a jyotisha pundit and get a Shani Kavacham made right now...but that's something that needs doing.

These ghosts are also very smart, because they know that doing normal and regular poltergeist activity or giving me bad dreams won't phase me...and so, they will break the laws of physics and material nature to do so, which leads me to scream "what the f***???" before collapsing in a pile of sheer disbelief on the floor.

I am also sorry that I haven't responded to your last few PM's because firstly, I'm on a mobile phone, secondly, I'm not really a PM replying/chatting person anyway and thirdly I didn't know how you would take the news that nobody can live for 400 years...not even an enlightened yogi or mystic like Baba.

Sadguru said it very well...let me see if I can find a link again that I saw last month...

[Shivani Devi]

Here we go...
https://youtu.be/t9OThVe92GI

[captainamerica]

I am also sorry that I haven't responded to your last few PM's because firstly, I'm on a mobile phone, secondly, I'm not really a PM replying/chatting person anyway.


No problem.

I understand.

But please do reply when you have the opportunity to and when you are on a device on which you are comfortable with replying to the PMs. :smile:


and thirdly I didn't know how you would take the news that nobody can live for 400 years...not even an enlightened yogi or mystic like Baba.

I would 100% believe it if Shiv ji said it. :smile:
Shiv ji's and Lord Krishna/Vasudeva ji's words are gospel for me.I can die but not ignore their kind words of wisdom or their orders that I have to follow.

"thirdly I didn't know how you would take the news that nobody can live for 400 years...not even an enlightened yogi or mystic like Baba."
My first question is :Who gave you this news ? Did Shiv ji said it or Sadhguru said it or somebody else ?
Lord Krishna doesn't talk to me as much as Shiv ji talks and replies to your questions and inquiries but once Vasudev ji/Krishna ji told me to "don't follow Sadhguru,he is wrong many, many times and you won't even know when he is wrong so it is best not to follow him." Also ,Krishna ji told me that "Sadhguru is not yet enlightened ,nowhere even close to it." And,I don't expect you to follow this advice of Lord Krishna ji but I will definitely follow it.:smile:


I need to find a book before I can send you the possible route to finding the method.I will send you the possible way to find the method today ,Indian standard time.


Would it be possible for you to let me know when you will be back on a non-mobile device so that I know when to expect replies to my requests/PM s ?
If you are uncomfortable with PMs and chatting just let me know ,I won't be bothering you again in this way if that's the case.

[Shivani Devi]

Google is my friend...
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ananda.org/meditation/meditation-support/meditation-doctor-help-with-meditation-problems/protection-from-negative-influences/&ved=0ahUKEwjjyvS5k_PaAhXBUrwKHUDjAzYQFggvMAQ&usg=AOvVaw1XkGEmiKo_AqXGoKFqDVTg
Also, if they don't want me to type, they make the tips of my fingers swell up to about twice normal size. I WANT MY LIFE BACK!!!

[captainamerica]

Google is my friend...
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ananda.org/meditation/meditation-support/meditation-doctor-help-with-meditation-problems/protection-from-negative-influences/&ved=0ahUKEwjjyvS5k_PaAhXBUrwKHUDjAzYQFggvMAQ&usg=AOvVaw1XkGEmiKo_AqXGoKFqDVTg
Also, if they don't want me to type, they make the tips of my fingers swell up to about twice normal size. I WANT MY LIFE BACK!!!

Wow ,you found part of the method.
I should learn from you research methods.:smile:

I have the book with me now and I will tell you how to get the rest of the method today itself.


Also, if they don't want me to type, they make the tips of my fingers swell up to about twice normal size. I WANT MY LIFE BACK!!!
I know how bad it feels. I've been there too.
I just focus on my breathing till the anxiety/anger and negative thoughts go away and then I am back to trying to treat the problem.

[captainamerica]

Details:

The following excerpt is from the book "Once upon a yogi time: Tales of the siddhis by Phillip Hurley"

I was sitting on a chair at a table when Shreya came into to prepare some food. She was a Rosicrucian and had come all the way from India to take the class. She was staying with Albertus as a guest in his house.

I crawled into bed and was lying on my back, just staring into nothingness, wondering what to do next in this very strange situation. Suddenly a face appeared a few feet past the foot of the bed. It gave me quite a start, so much so that I could not move a muscle except that my eyes opened wide in disbelief. The phantom head was very clear, and it was Shreya. As I realized who it was, I felt a very sharp needle prick on my butt. My body elevated into the air above the mattress by several inches, if not a half a foot. My body was stiff and straight the whole time, with my arms at my sides - not a muscle moved. I simply was levitated into the air. My body fell back onto the mattress and the face dissolved as quickly as it had appeared. I continued to lie there, moving my eyes around the room waiting for something else to happen, but apparently that was all there was to it. After collecting my wits, I realized that I had just been psychically attacked by Shreya, and she wanted me to know that she was the one who did the deed. Why she would do such a thing, I don’t know, but she did... and now the ball was in my court. My guru, bless his magical soul, knowing that there are people with such capabilities and that some will use them against you for no good reason, gave me a technique for just this sort of situation. I applied it quickly. I was quite astounded as my room filled with energy and lights. I had not used this particular technique before and was really enjoying the pyrotechnics that went with it. The phenomenon continued for about fifteen minutes before the room grew dark again. I stayed awake for several hours looking around the room expecting something else to happen, but apparently it was over and I fell asleep. The next morning in class, I noticed Shreya was missing. I wondered where she was. Just as I completed that thought, I overheard one of the students say that Shreya had become very ill last night and was in bed, and a doctor had been summoned. She was bedridden for three days, and then mysteriously departed for India without seeing any classmates or finishing her course of study. I silently thanked my guru for his very effective
technique.

So ,you can ask Shiv ji to "please give me the method that Gowswami Kriyananda gave to Phillip Hurley (writer of the book Once upon a yogi time: Tales of the siddhis ) which Phillip used for protection against Shreya "

Good luck !

I have three requests to you Shivani Devi ji. Please let me know what you think about them respectively.I'll be waiting for your reply.

1.I heard in some other thread that you frequently access the "cosmic internet" or the Akashic records and know things through intuition that you are not supposed to know otherwise.

Can you please tell me a little bit more about Akashic records ?

I am asking you this because of two reasons .First ,I think akashic records can make one (or me) a genius(Can they/it ?).Secondly,I think akashic records can reveal a lot of data about any thing or phenomenon which can help me in my research purposes.(Is this true also ?)

2.I have been researching on Spirituality for several years now and have read a few hundred books ,few thousand articles etc. on the same and I have an idea for writing a book on spirituality.Would you be interested in writing a advanced book or a series of advanced mini-books on spirituality with me ? You can channel insights from Shiv ji or source and I'll take care of the rest(like guiding the book ,asking the right questions,editing ,making the book cover,publishing it ,using my knowledge to get the most out of your channeling time ,making sure the book is valuable for the readers etc.)

I completely understand if you don't want to for some reasons but please let me know your final decision.

3.Would it be possible for you to ask one of my questions to Shiv ji and reply me by this week's end ? I have arranged a question with Krishna ji's guidance.The question ,if answered by Shiv ji ,will get me a guru.

I need a guru to do one of the works that Krishna ji/Vasudev ji gave me to do when they gave me their darshan and came to talk to me.

I'll be waiting for your reply.:smile:

[captainamerica]

If you are not interested to help with the book,no problem ,just let me know.:smile:

But I can assure you it will be an interesting venture for both of us.

[Shivani Devi]

If you are not interested to help with the book,no problem ,just let me know.:smile:

But I can assure you it will be an interesting venture for both of use.
I may be interested, just wait and see...you are quite the impatient one. :redface:

For now, I'm just waiting to see if others are going to respond to this thread...All the while, Shiv-ji is saying "that which you resist, will persist... and the only reason why the djinns are annoying you is because they know it massively ticks you off".

Yep, I've even taken to leaving things as they want it to be and just getting on with it...they make my house a mess, but I'll be damned if I'll clean up after them anymore..I'll just leave things where they fall...My chili flakes bottle is going to have to live without it's lid and I'll invest in another lanyard and house key soon...just leaving it attached to my seatbelt if that ever happens again...

...and as for pegs springing themselves off the clothesline...I'll just continue to buy New pegs and leave them in the grass until I can get somebody ELSE to pick them all up because I know that once that happens, the curse will be broken.

[captainamerica]

I may be interested, just wait and see...you are quite the impatient one. :redface:

For now, I'm just waiting to see if others are going to respond to this thread...All the while, Shiv-ji is saying "that which you resist, will persist... and the only reason why the djinns are annoying you is because they know it massively ticks you off".


Sorry.I did not used to impatient before.Actually I am thoroughly stressed, depressed and anxious these days which gives rise to the impatience.But you are right ,I should train to be more patient like you even in these conditions.:smile:

I will pray to my metaphysical teacher (who is very powerful and taught me kriya yoga) to help you.But I suppose Shiv ji's advice is the best ,as always.
And sorry for hijacking your forum.Anyone who can help is more then welcome to make new posts.

[captainamerica]

Would you have the time this week to answer one of my questions from Shiv ji ?

If yes ,I can forward you the newly formatted question which I got from Krishna ji's guidance.

If not ,no problem,I'll wait.

Again,sorry for hijacking your forum.Anyone who can help is more then welcomed to make new posts.

[Shivani Devi]

Would you have the time this week to answer one of my questions from Shiv ji ?

If yes ,I can forward you the newly formatted question which I got from Krishna ji's guidance.

If not ,no problem,I'll wait.

Again,sorry for hijacking your forum.Anyone who can help is more then welcomed to make new posts.
No problem and I much prefer it to be in the open forums than via PM...so we shall wait for a few days and see if anybody else can help me with my problem...after that, please ask your reformatted question here.

Shiv-ji also said that even if Babaji was still alive (and great sages pop into and out of existence from time to time and have no fixed abode), how would you know if somebody who claimed to have seen him was telling the truth? Or maybe they saw somebody they only thought was Babaji... after all, shapeshifting entities also exist that can resemble whoever they like and act like whoever they want as well.

To answer your question, Babaji is still alive, but not on THIS plane or level of existence, to find Him, you'll need to be able to access the Astral Realms.

[captainamerica]

No problem and I much prefer it to be in the open forums than via PM...so we shall wait for a few days and see if anybody else can help me with my problem...after that, please ask your reformatted question here.


Sure ,I'll wait for a few days.
Thank you for accepting.


To answer your question, Babaji is still alive, but not on THIS plane or level of existence, to find Him, you'll need to be able to access the Astral Realms.

I almost know how to do that and if Shiv ji guides me just a bit more by answering a couple of questions related to the technique of astral travel I am sure I can do it in a time frame of 6 months to 2 years.

Have a great day ! :smile:

[captainamerica]

Sorry to bother you again.

In my culture I have been actively taught to chant "Hanuman chalisa" out aloud repeatedly in case of ghosts or spirits troubling you.

Thought I should tell you,maybe it will help you.But I understand that Shiv ji's advice is the best.

[captainamerica]

I read on the other forum that you'll be offline for a month for now...

Should I give you this week's question before you leave to be offline for that period so that you can reply when you will have the time to after you get back online ?

If not,no problem.I thought I should ask now because otherwise you will be offline for the month.

[Reality]

Just inbox me if you want help. What you're dealing with doesn't sound fun

[Shinsoo]

You wouldn't believe it unless you saw It.

I wear a lanyard around my neck with my house key on it and my car key is on a separate key chain.

Today when I got into the car, my lanyard got caught on my seat belt...but it was the way in which it was caught... which could have only happened if the clasp at the end of the lanyard was undone, half the fabric of the seatbelt pushed through it and then the clasp done up again ON the fabric of the seat belt itself...and this all occurred in a split second.

I went to get my clothes off the line and left my sliding screen door open to do so. Now there's a recessed pin, tiny it is, inside the frame of the screen door... where it latches to close and it's not jutting out whatsoever and it is hardly noticeable.

As I walked through the door carrying an armfull of clothes off the line, a top got caught on this pin, but it was the way in which it was caught...One of those tiny pieces of ribbon inside the top, which are used to hang it on a coat hanger got caught around this pin...but the width of the ribbon was about three times wider than the length of the shaft of the recessed pin...and so it remained precariously dangling from it...A slight breeze could have dislodged it, but apparently not me walking by with an armfull of clothes.

I just took the top of a small jar of chili flakes to use in a stir fry and it was as if the lid flew out of my hand when I opened it, found the floor and then proceeded to roll far underneath the refrigerator...On the opposite side of the kitchen.

When stuff like this happens a few times a day, all I can do is sit down and cry, because it's so bloody ridiculous, it goes way beyond belief, I have no control over it and cannot stop it from happening and thus it stresses me out to the max, because I know that something is screwing with my mind and making my life very difficult and miserable for me and I want it stopped...I want it gone.

Oh man, i hear you. I get this from unknown forces A LOT.

Maybe it feeds off your attention, whatever it is. Maybe it just wants to connect you with your non logical side.

To be honest i do not know how to get rid of THEM, as I like to call them.

Maybe ask your beloved Shiva for insight on this? It could be a message of some kind--not from him in particular, but something happening to develop you in some way.

I asked my guides about all this, but they won't respond. Maybe they are in on the craziness going on with me.

--Trinity

[Shivani Devi]

Oh man, i hear you. I get this from unknown forces A LOT.

Maybe it feeds off your attention, whatever it is. Maybe it just wants to connect you with your non logical side.

To be honest i do not know how to get rid of THEM, as I like to call them.

Maybe ask your beloved Shiva for insight on this? It could be a message of some kind--not from him in particular, but something happening to develop you in some way.

I asked my guides about all this, but they won't respond. Maybe they are in on the craziness going on with me.

--TrinitySo glad to hear that I am not the only one. I was starting to get paranoid.

Having a hot-line to the Akasha does pay off though, and you are on the right track..

Apparently, I have been ignoring all of the obvious signs from the universe, so, my guides have a competition going to see which of them can come up with the most unique way to actually get my attention...and Shiva thinks it is highly amusing with the whole "you're so cute when you're mad" thing. The whole lesson is just to let go and realise that the laws of physics do not apply to angels.. there's nothing malevolent involved...Just me being stubborn and my guides pointing out how futile that is.

As for going offline for a month, I am still deciding, as I feel like I'm stagnating and suffocating on here.

[captainamerica]

As for going offline for a month, I am still deciding, as I feel like I'm stagnating and suffocating on here.

Oh!,okay.
Thank you for letting me know.:smile:
Have a great day ahead ! :smile:

[captainamerica]

I understand that you are busy and for some reasons currently don't want to decide about the book but if I have your permission I would like to write a brief introduction to the book so that you can decide if it is gonna be worth your time or not.

So,Do I have your permission to write a good introduction to the book and the topics we will cover (if you decide to write it with me) here ?

I thought it will be easier for you to decide whether to write the book or not, sometime in the future, if I give you the introduction to the book and the topics we will cover.

[Shivani Devi]

I understand that you are busy and for some reasons currently don't want to decide about the book but if I have your permission I would like to write a brief introduction to the book so that you can decide if it is gonna be worth your time or not.

So,Do I have your permission to write a good introduction to the book and the topics we will cover (if you decide to write it with me) here ?

I thought it will be easier for you to decide whether to write the book or not, sometime in the future, if I give you the introduction to the book and the topics we will cover.
Give me time. I'm still not sure about the book and you're coming on way too strong and it ain't helping things...I need a good old Soul Release before I explode with pent up existential frustration.

[captainamerica]

Give me time. I'm still not sure about the book and you're coming on way too strong and it ain't helping things...I need a good old Soul Release before I explode with pent up existential frustration.

Okay.Okay.Apologies for disturbing your peace...

Sorry for saying it again but I would really really suggest you do the alpha forgiveness method many times.If my best friend went through the same troubles that you do I will advice him/her to do the alpha forgiveness method.

There is one more ,god-level efficient, way to heal.I did not share it with you until now because it is too costly...I don't know how rich you are (I am definitely not ,I go to a 100$ per year correspondence college for the same reason),but if you have the money I will recommend you a healing training which costs 15,000 $ and the results are miraculous.Even rape and 40 year in jail falsely accused victims with psychological issues are healed perfectly and completely in that training.

So ,If you have the money then please let me know so that I can tell you more about that 15,000$ (USD) training.If you have the money it is a perfect way to heal in your case.

[Shivani Devi]

Okay.Okay.Apologies for disturbing your peace...

Sorry for saying it again but I would really really suggest you do the alpha forgiveness method many times.If my best friend went through the same troubles that you do I will advice him/her to do the alpha forgiveness method.

There is one more ,god-level efficient, way to heal.I did not share it with you until now because it is too costly...I don't know how rich you are (I am definitely not ,I go to a 100$ per year correspondence college for the same reason),but if you have the money I will recommend you a healing training which costs 15,000 $ and the results are miraculous.Even rape and 40 year in jail falsely accused victims with psychological issues are healed perfectly and completely in that training.

So ,If you have the money then please let me know so that I can tell you more about that 15,000$ (USD) training.If you have the money it is a perfect way to heal in your case.
I will definitely look into it, but I don't have anything that a man, 30 years your senior and standing right in front of me cannot fix at this moment. =)

Oh, and I don't have any money whatsoever... drinking coffee without milk right now...It tastes disgusting...oh well, payday on Wednesday, just gotta put up with being broke til then...

If I had USD $15,000 I would update my car from a 20 year old Holden Commodore Station Wagon...tell you anything? I'm probably poorer than you are...and you live in India...

....and yep, this is what happens when my peace is disturbed..lol but I'll forgive you. <3

[captainamerica]

I will definitely look into it, but I don't have anything that a man, 30 years your senior and standing right in front of me cannot fix at this moment. =)

Oh, and I don't have any money whatsoever... drinking coffee without milk right now...It tastes disgusting...oh well, payday on Wednesday, just gotta put up with being broke til then...

If I had USD $15,000 I would update my car from a 20 year old Holden Commodore Station Wagon...tell you anything? I'm probably poorer than you are...and you live in India...

....and yep, this is what happens when my peace is disturbed..lol but I'll forgive you. <3

So you too(just like me) don't have money to invest in the trainings, at least sometimes the god(s) help us both ,in many miraculous and unseen ways.
You are inspiration to me because you are worst than me in all the cases (health ,wealth ...) but you are still going strong.:hug3:

The alpha forgiveness method I told you about earlier is a copy from the same 15,000$ training.If you feel like it then please do practice it.

I can write the method here step-by-step ,if you want me to.I'd be more than glad to.

Please let me know if you want me to reiterate the method again step by step here.:smile:

[Shivani Devi]

So you too(just like me) don't have money to invest in the trainings, at least sometimes the god(s) help us both ,in many miraculous and unseen ways.
You are inspiration to me because you are worst than me in all the cases (health ,wealth ...) but you are still going strong.:hug3:

The alpha forgiveness method I told you about earlier is a copy from the same 15,000$ training.If you feel like it then please do practice it.

I can write the method here step-by-step ,if you want me to.I'd be more than glad to.

Please let me know if you want me to reiterate the method again step by step here.:smile: https://www.ecronicon.com>ecpp>pdf

I just saved it to my hard drive and will read it later.

Yeah, you remember those resource skills I have, right? lol

I wonder how many gigolos I could buy for $15,000...

[captainamerica]

Thank you for sharing the link with me.

Do you mind sharing the link with me again ?
https://www.ecronicon.com>ecpp>pdf
The above links seems to be not working .(Or maybe I am doing something wrong.)

When I go to https://www.ecronicon.com/ecpp ,it says forbidden access.

Thanks in advance.

[Shivani Devi]

Thank you for sharing the link with me.

Do you mind sharing the link with me again ?
https://www.ecronicon.com>ecpp>pdf
The above links seems to be not working .(Or maybe I am doing something wrong.)

When I go to https://www.ecronicon.com/ecpp ,it says forbidden access.

Thanks in advance. Unfortunately, the site won't allow it, so let's see if I can get the pdf link...nope...

I have the whole book downloaded though...
by James V. Hardt
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=alpha+forgiveness+method&oq=a&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60l3j69i59l2.2519j0j4&client=ms-android-alcatel&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

I don't know if that works, but you can download the full pdf version from there.

All you need to do is mention any keywords and I will find all there is to know about it.

[Shivani Devi]

Having said that, my dear...It isn't forgiveness that I need to work with. I pretty much have that in hand.

I would like people to really get to know me before they decide what it is that I need and what my problems are, and why I am deeply spiritual, with connections to the Universe...and still, I am an irritable and irritating cranky old lady...and all you have to do is ask me why, my friend.

It all boils down to this..
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-love/201209/why-we-fear-our-deepest-gifts

I'm caught in a trap.

[captainamerica]

Having said that, my dear...It isn't forgiveness that I need to work with. I pretty much have that in hand.

I would like people to really get to know me before they decide what it is that I need and what my problems are, and why I am deeply spiritual, with connections to the Universe...and still, I am an irritable and irritating cranky old lady...and all you have to do is ask me why, my friend.

It all boils down to this..
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-love/201209/why-we-fear-our-deepest-gifts

I'm caught in a trap.

Thank you for letting me know.I will give the link a proper reading soon and tell you what I think or understood about your problem...

Sorry for not asking to you this before ,I am thoroughly inexperienced with friendships.Actually its been years since I have only one friend to talk with.
You are the second one ,if you count me as one...

I did NOT gave you the forgiveness method because I thought or think that you have problems with forgiveness.I shared the method with you because
the good scientist Dr. James Hardt found out that effective forgiveness done many times in just a week will lead to the person doing the effective forgiveness in having decades worth of peace ,tranquility and healing(psychosomatic) in just a week.And I have read case studies of how this 14 step method leads to healing psychosomatic problems miraculously so I thought it could help you.

I will share with you the method soon ,since the method is not to be found online...

I don't have much to give because I don't have much in the first place ,but if you think I can be of your help in any way ,just ask and I will do whatever I can.

Anyway, thank you for letting me about your condition and sharing with me the link for the same,I will give it a proper read before I arrive at conclusions.Will let you know what I understood about your problem from that link soon.Meanwhile feel free to tell me more about the trap you are caught in ,I promise to help as much as I can.

[Shivani Devi]

Thank you for letting me know.I will give the link a proper reading soon and tell you what I think or understood about your problem...

Sorry for not asking to you this before ,I am thoroughly inexperienced with friendships.Actually its been years since I have only one friend to talk with.
You are the second one ,if you count me as one...

I did NOT gave you the forgiveness method because I thought or think that you have problems with forgiveness.I shared the method with you because
the good scientist Dr. James Hardt found out that effective forgiveness done many times in just a week will lead to the person doing the effective forgiveness in having decades worth of peace ,tranquility and healing(psychosomatic) in just a week.And I have read case studies of how this 14 step method leads to healing psychosomatic problems miraculously so I thought it could help you.

I will share with you the method soon ,since the method is not to be found online...

I don't have much to give because I don't have much in the first place ,but if you think I can be of your help in any way ,just ask and I will do whatever I can.

Anyway, thank you for letting me about your condition and sharing with me the link for the same,I will give it a proper read before I arrive at conclusions.Will let you know what I understood about your problem from that link soon.Meanwhile feel free to tell me more about the trap you are caught in ,I promise to help as much as I can.
Thank you, my sweet.

I don't have any friends either. There are a few on here I talk to, but I don't know if they are friends...I have lived alone for the past 20 years...I don't go out much...I haven't had any friends before either, so all this is pretty new to me as well... it's also why I said the other day, that Siva is my friend... possibly to compensate for the fact that I haven't got any...and nobody to talk to...

The difference is, I have spent over twice your whole lifetime like this and where you are eager to have me as a friend and I shall be happy to be so...As long as you respect my boundaries and give me a lot of space, because I am definitely not used to this and it will take me a while to adjust...

Now, about finding me that identity...

[Shivani Devi]

Okay, so about that trap I'm caught in..

I have seen the full extent of what I'm capable of...or rather, the capabilities that present themselves through me... because by that time, any notion of "I" doesn't exist, and it terrifies me. I have held the power and immediately threw it away like a hot potato...The responsibility that comes with enlightenment is huge, my friend. It is sort of like "this was never part of the deal I signed up for". Yes, there is bliss and love...there is also the ability to warp space and time...to change reality and the physical laws of the universe myself...and I am like DO NOT WANT.

There is also the full transmutation into the Light Body, so you are only a walking shell...A mere husk of a human...A Ghost whilst alive, who walks between planes...not belonging to any World whatsoever, yet has a foot in all of them...DO NOT WANT.

So, I have been holding it back...The full force of my "true self" because it makes me wet my pants and cry "mamma". I have only been letting it through in small increments..As much as I can handle, but it's not good enough.. and it is eroding my soul on every level.

[captainamerica]

I will think more about it and reply by today's end IST.

But I will say something from the top of my head:

I have read that some people with advanced capabilities like yours and some yogis can transfer their mental and spiritual faculties/capabilities to some other person they choose.

So my suggestion is that you ask Shiv ji "transferring which of the mental and spiritual faculties or capabilities ,if any, would be in my (Shivani Devi's) best interests ?"

And based on Shiv ji's response you transfer the faculties or capabilities that are hurting you to me or somebody else who wants/needs it ... I was gonna pay for getting the faculties that you have, so if you have some capabilities that are hurting you and you don't want ... You can send those my way ...or somebody else who is willing to take them...

That way the faculty or capability will no longer hurt you ,plus with Shiv ji 's guidance you will know if doing the transference is in your best interests or not...If it is not in your best interests then simply don't do it.But if Shiv ji says it is in your best interest then I think doing it might be a good idea.And,you don't need to transfer the good ones ,just the ones that are hurting you or the ones that you "DO NOT WANT".

I am up for even taking some painful or bad capabilities ,if that helps you.If it does not then I understand that it is a bad idea.

I apologize if it is a bad idea for some reasons but please know that I put it out because of just good-will and not greed or any other bad intention.

I will give a more thoughtful response soon ,but let me know if the above is a good idea .

edit :
Probably a bad idea but I believe that at least I can take some of your smaller(I am not sure about the bigger ones because I might be too weak to take them..) problems/faculties this way...If you can transfer ...through the help of Shiv ji or your abilities... Again ,I am not doing it out of any bad intention ,you can always ask it from Shiv ji before doing it ,just doing it out of good will as I thought it will be a win win situation for both of us as I am a seeker(of enlightenment ,moksha and liberation) as well ...and you did not want some of the effects so I thought I can help by taking them even if it comes at the cost of some pain ...

Update :
Good news !
I was doing my daily reading and luckily(?) just found out in Lahiri Mahasya ji's commentaries that YOU CAN return these powers or capabilities to god ,so you won't be needing me or any one else to do it ! Have you tried doing it or do you want try this now ?

[captainamerica]

I found about 3-4 potential solutions for you.

One of them is:
I think that your case is very complicated (but not unsolvable) and it will need several hours of back and forth questioning to understand ,diagnose and heal you.And if it would be most fruitful if an expert does it.So I think you need a certified consultant/healer who has experience in healing such cases,and I know just the right person.Coincidentally she channels Shiv ji's wife.

She is Tara springett and she charges about 50 to 100 $ per session and most people with cases such as yours report healing in a few sessions.
If you can afford it then by all means go for it ... let me know if you can so that I can forward you her details.

If you can't afford it ,I can't help much but I think I can give you about 100$ so that you can get a little help from the above consultant...(I can't grantee that I will give you 100$ ,I'd have to look into my finances before I can give you my word but maybe I can if it helps you ...)

Do you wanna give Tara Springett's consulting services a try ?(Given what i know about your troubles and what I know about Tara,I recommend her services highly to you.) .Please let me know.If you can't afford it then also let me know if you are interested ,maybe I can help.

I have 2-3 more solutions which I will be telling you soon but after I do I'll be at the end of my limited knowledge and wits/depth.

[Shivani Devi]

Thanks for your help and support..I shall research her online and watch some YouTube stuff before I decide...I prefer to do my "homework" first.

However, Shiv-ji Himself is helping me out right now...I just dusted off my Tabla..

Ooh, do you like this kirtan ..
https://youtu.be/xL0SLYIz4ag

I need to express myself through music, art and play...and if it is about my Lord, all the better, as it is an offering of Bhakti.

[captainamerica]

Thanks for your help and support..I shall research her online and watch some YouTube stuff before I decide...I prefer to do my "homework" first.

However, Shiv-ji Himself is helping me out right now...I just dusted off my Tabla..

Ooh, do you like this kirtan ..
https://youtu.be/xL0SLYIz4ag

I need to express myself through music, art and play...and if it is about my Lord, all the better, as it is an offering of Bhakti.

The bhajan is a bit awkward for me for a funny reason.
This bhajan you gave is an exact copy of a very popular pop song in India ,just the lyrics are changed a bit to include Shiv ji's name.

So imagine one of the latest popular pop songs in your country ,with a little bit of Shiv ji's name in between the lines and the lyrics so that it can be given the title of a Bhajan...

It did give me a chuckle ,thanks for sharing !

And I appreciate your bhakti bhav for Shiv ji ...

Here are four of my favorite songs about Shiv ji :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBKmQEPNzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqdVosM4gU English Lyrics : http://www.krazylyrics.in/2016/09/11/bolo-har-har-har-english-translation-shivaay/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn3fQz9kZzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibcvWT7KQQ

I listen to them frequently.

[Shivani Devi]

The bhajan is a bit awkward for me for a funny reason.
This bhajan you gave is an exact copy of a very popular pop song in India ,just the lyrics are changed a bit to include Shiv ji's name.

So imagine one of the latest popular pop songs in your country ,with a little bit of Shiv ji's name in between the lines and the lyrics so that it can be given the title of a Bhajan...

It did give me a chuckle ,thanks for sharing !

And I appreciate your bhakti bhav for Shiv ji ...

Here are four of my favorite songs about Shiv ji :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBKmQEPNzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqdVosM4gU English Lyrics : http://www.krazylyrics.in/2016/09/11/bolo-har-har-har-english-translation-shivaay/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn3fQz9kZzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibcvWT7KQQ

I listen to them frequently.Those are awesome and I like them too, but time for my comments.

About the Shiva Tandava Stotram.... many years ago, I tried to learn it. I had learned Lingashtakham by heart, Bilvashtakham, Rudrashtakham, Shiva Panchakshara Stotram and Shiva Kavacham all by heart...I learned Sanskrit, but English was still my first language... I tried to learn Shiva Tandava Stotram, couldn't get past the fifth verse...It was too hard, and required the utmost control of breath to sing it.

I then learned that it was composed by Ravana...One Day, Ravana decided to test his immense strength, so he went to Shivaloka to lift up Mt Kailasha...He succeeded and Parvati started to panic...Lord Shiva started laughing, and increased His weight massively... pushing Ravana down way under the Earth...Ravana dug back up to the surface, his heart became filled with Bhakti bhav for Lord Shiva, and he composed the Shiva Tandava Stotram on the spot! So, I took my hat off to Ravana, in composing this bhajan that I couldn't even sing!
https://youtu.be/YsWtpDwoVxw

The second one I have seen before, it is okay, but I can take it or leave it....

As for Bam Lehri by Kailash Kher...I LOVE IT!

I spent a week solid listening to it when I first heard it and became a huge fan in the process..Bhole Chale is also very nice.

Yep, I understand all the words....My Hindi is still pretty rusty, but I can understand it. It has been about 30 years since I was fluent, and I haven't been practicing... unfortunately though, most of my favourite Shiv-ji bhajans are in Tamil, but they contain enough Sanskrit for me to understand what they are singing about..
https://youtu.be/Xm9kjceWeEc

If you ever get the opportunity to watch Naan Kadavul starring Arya...It is amazing! I watched it with English subtitles, but they also sub it in Hindi...

I also really liked that last one you showed me as well, have it on my iPod..but it's not one I regularly listen to.

At the moment, I'm listening to a Tamil one, but Hindi and English is mixed into it...It is growing on me..

https://youtu.be/G5iTugfFvP4

I also didn't realise that the music and lyrics for Shiv Ratan Dhan Payo was based on a popular Hindi pop song...there we go....I just like it a lot.

See, this is stuff we can talk about that makes me very happy... instead of all the teachings and problems and philosophy stuff.

I am also a walking goldmine of Indian culture, myth and tales from long ago... interspersed with popular bhajans and music...see, you have hit a "happy nerve" with me.

[captainamerica]

About the Shiva Tandava Stotram.... many years ago, I tried to learn it. I had learned Lingashtakham by heart, Bilvashtakham, Rudrashtakham, Shiva Panchakshara Stotram and Shiva Kavacham all by heart...I learned Sanskrit, but English was still my first language... I tried to learn Shiva Tandava Stotram, couldn't get past the fifth verse...It was too hard, and required the utmost control of breath to sing it.

Good to hear that you memorized all of those !
I'll take a look at them.
I am also currently trying to memorize Shiva Tandav Strotam ,it is a bit easier for me because Hindi is my native language plus I know a bit of Sanskrit.


I then learned that it was composed by Ravana...One Day, Ravana decided to test his immense strength, so he went to Shivaloka to lift up Mt Kailasha...He succeeded and Parvati started to panic...Lord Shiva started laughing, and increased His weight massively... pushing Ravana down way under the Earth...Ravana dug back up to the surface, his heart became filled with Bhakti bhav for Lord Shiva, and he composed the Shiva Tandava Stotram on the spot! So, I took my hat off to Ravana, in composing this bhajan that I couldn't even sing!
https://youtu.be/YsWtpDwoVxw


I have heard this story before.Ravana was arguably one of the greatest supreme devotee of Shiv ji ,but he fell from his throne and attainments because he chose the path of adharma.


As for Bam Lehri by Kailash Kher...I LOVE IT!

I spent a week solid listening to it when I first heard it and became a huge fan in the process..Bhole Chale is also very nice.


I love Bam Lehri too,and after your suggestion I started to listen and like Bhole chale too.


If you ever get the opportunity to watch Naan Kadavul starring Arya...It is amazing! I watched it with English subtitles, but they also sub it in Hindi...


Sure.I will see it as soon as I have the time to...



See, this is stuff we can talk about that makes me very happy... instead of all the teachings and problems and philosophy stuff.

I am also a walking goldmine of Indian culture, myth and tales from long ago... interspersed with popular bhajans and music...see, you have hit a "happy nerve" with me.

If it makes you happy then feel free to talk with me about such topics as much as you want to .I am used to digging deep in such topics because just like you my other friend (the one I told you about earlier) also relates and recites to me such stories ,myths ,legends and bhajans frequently,so I have a good appetite for such things.Discussing about practical ways to be successful and practical advanced spirituality also makes me happy.


Anyway ,I will be going offline for a week or two soon.I have a request to you ,1. Should I ask that one question now(for Shiv ji) before I go offline ?
And I prefer to do it via PM,if possible,because it is Babaji's will to not be known anywhere publicly so if we attempt it that way our attempts will fail because Babaji's will is attenuated to higher(god's) will.
Please let me know.

Btw,how is your spirits troubling you problem going ?
and ,how are your health issues now ? I sincerely hope that you got better than before.

Have a great day !

P.S. If you want to talk to me more about Indian bhajans ,myths and legends then feel free.

2.I have another request .What do you know about Hermes Trismegistus ?
What resources should I follow to learn more about him ?

[captainamerica]

Please do reply to the above message if you have the time to do so.

Before you had 7,230 + posts and now it is showing only 7,219 ... how did you delete the rest ? Maybe it is a bug...

Meanwhile I came across a beautiful story about a aghori sadhu on a book that I was reading ... I am typing it up and will send it to you when it is done.

I also recommend that you check out these two books by Tara Springett so that you can do the "homework":

https://www.amazon.com/Five-Minute-Miracle-Discover-Personal-Problems/dp/157863458X/

https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Through-Path-Kundalini-Overcoming/dp/1506067611/

[Shivani Devi]

Good to hear that you memorized all of those !
I'll take a look at them.
I am also currently trying to memorize Shiva Tandav Strotam ,it is a bit easier for me because Hindi is my native language plus I know a bit of Sanskrit.



I have heard this story before.Ravana was arguably one of the greatest supreme devotee of Shiv ji ,but he fell from his throne and attainments because he chose the path of adharma.



I love Bam Lehri too,and after your suggestion I started to listen and like Bhole chale too.



Sure.I will see it as soon as I have the time to...



If it makes you happy then feel free to talk with me about such topics as much as you want to .I am used to digging deep in such topics because just like you my other friend (the one I told you about earlier) also relates and recites to me such stories ,myths ,legends and bhajans frequently,so I have a good appetite for such things.Discussing about practical ways to be successful and practical advanced spirituality also makes me happy.


Anyway ,I will be going offline for a week or two soon.I have a request to you ,1. Should I ask that one question now(for Shiv ji) before I go offline ?
And I prefer to do it via PM,if possible,because it is Babaji's will to not be known anywhere publicly so if we attempt it that way our attempts will fail because Babaji's will is attenuated to higher(god's) will.
Please let me know.

Btw,how is your spirits troubling you problem going ?
and ,how are your health issues now ? I sincerely hope that you got better than before.

Have a great day !

P.S. If you want to talk to me more about Indian bhajans ,myths and legends then feel free.

2.I have another request .What do you know about Hermes Trismegistus ?
What resources should I follow to learn more about him ?
Sorry that it took a while for me to get back to you.

I can't get any more information on Babaji from Shiv-ji, except that even if He told you where he was currently, your wouldn't be able to afford to travel there...and by the time you can afford it, he would have moved from there.

He also says that you have a lot of work to do on yourself spiritually before you are pure enough and can understand these things.

He also reiterated that Babaji is not a "physical being" like you and I.....of course he can adopt a physical appearance so that people can see him, but that is only when he chooses to do so and even trying to pinpoint the location of an Astral Being in the physical realm is very difficult...even for a God.

As for Hermes Trismegistus, you can try reading his source material, which are the Emerald Tablets of Thoth...
http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

Now, my birth name is Dianne... Shivani is my Balinese name...Well, it is actually Ciwani Dewi.

There is something you asked of me before, and I will answer your questions as they present themselves to me...and one at a time, but the answer can appear anywhere...not necessarily where you asked it.
https://youtu.be/We5nonxAKMM

My channel is just Dianne Morris...you will find a few ghost box sessions on there, but not many. I gave up talking to them because it was getting me nowhere.

My health is okay, but I need to go on a fast...I feel so bloated up and I have tummy pain...I think I am having a wheat allergy...I also need to drink more fesh juice and take some Churna..

I am glad we talked about popular Indian culture...I may be a white girl outside, but I am a Hindu...A full on follower of Santana Dharma...not just a devotee of Shiv-ji.

You take care for the fortnight you will be offline and I'll talk to you when you return.

Aum Batuk Bhairavaye Namah

[captainamerica]

Please Skip

[Shivani Devi]

Now, about Ravana and why he chose the path of adharma..

Stop me if you have heard this one...oh wait, it is the internet. LOL

So, long ago, in Vishnuloka, Lord Vishnu had two doorkeepers into Vaikuntha..Two brothers..Jaya and Vijaya.

One Day, the Sanat Kumaras came to visit Lord Vishnu...they looked like four little kids..about 4 years old, but that appearance meant nothing, as they were as old as time itself...Lord Brahma made them that way, so they would be 4 years old for eternity..The Sanat Kumaras and the Sapta Rishis are also Astral Beings like Babaji..

Anyway, they wanted to get into Vaikuntha to see Lord Vishnu, but Jaya and Vijaya couldn't recognise them. They thought they were just little kids who were misbehaving.They started to patronise and scoff at the four sages... telling them basically to "run along and play elsewhere".

The four sages became very angry with Jaya and Vijaya, but the doorkeepers just laughed and teased them more.. Eventually, they said "don't you both know who we are? We are the Sanat Kumaras..We are the sons of Lord Brahma and we have an appointment to see Lord Vishnu. Now, for your insolence and ignorance, we will curse you both! You are both to take birth as human beings for seven incarnations before being allowed back into Vaikuntha."

Now, Jaya and Vijaya were both great devotees of Lord Vishnu..they loved serving Him as the holy doorkeepers and didn't want to take human birth...So they ran to Lord Vishnu crying...
"My dear Lord...We are sorry we didn't recognise the Sanat Kumaras...but please, undo their curse..We don't want to be away from your side for even a moment."

Lord Vishnu said "if there is one thing I cannot do, it is to undo the curse of the sons of my creation... please understand, the Sanat Kumaras are my grandchildren...I can, however, change the curse somewhat...You can spend seven incarnations as my devotees or one incarnation being Lord Shiva's devotees and not being able to recognise me until the moment you die".

Well of course, Jaya and Vijaya took the second option for mere expediency and they were born on Earth as Ravana and Kumbhkarn respectively..Now, Kumbhkarn is also a very interesting fellow, but I digress.

The reason why Ravana became adharmic, kidnapped Sita (Shinta) and did all those bad things, was to bring the wrath of Lord Vishnu down and thus commit suicide through the hands of a God..Well, he also had the boon from Lord Shiva that only one who is pure of heart could kill him anyway.

This is why, Lord Rama prayed to Lord Shiva before entering the kingdom of Lanka...As if to say " My dear Divine brother, is it okay with you if I now go and kill your greatest devotee? Oh and by the way, could you please make these stones float so I can get over there to do the job?" And of course, as we know...Lord Shiva gave His blessings to Lord Rama...and the rest is history.

Another movie that I really like is called Sri Manjunatha...it is a Tamil movie...also subtitled in Hindi and English...from this movie, came the best offering of Bhakti to Lord Shiva EVER.

It is mostly in Sanskrit and is a direct invocation to Lord Shiva himself...if this one is sung with devotion, Lord Shiva will appear personally...I go into an immediate and deep trance state each time I hear it...

Om Mahaprana Deepam
https://youtu.be/1lPozjD-WJA

Until next time, God bless.

[captainamerica]

Now, about Ravana and why he chose the path of adharma..

Stop me if you have heard this one...oh wait, it is the internet. LOL

So, long ago, in Vishnuloka, Lord Vishnu had two doorkeepers into Vaikuntha..Two brothers..Jaya and Vijaya.

One Day, the Sanat Kumaras came to visit Lord Vishnu...they looked like four little kids..about 4 years old, but that appearance meant nothing, as they were as old as time itself...Lord Brahma made them that way, so they would be 4 years old for eternity..The Sanat Kumaras and the Sapta Rishis are also Astral Beings like Babaji..

Anyway, they wanted to get into Vaikuntha to see Lord Vishnu, but Jaya and Vijaya couldn't recognise them. They thought they were just little kids who were misbehaving.They started to patronise and scoff at the four sages... telling them basically to "run along and play elsewhere".

The four sages became very angry with Jaya and Vijaya, but the doorkeepers just laughed and teased them more.. Eventually, they said "don't you both know who we are? We are the Sanat Kumaras..We are the sons of Lord Brahma and we have an appointment to see Lord Vishnu. Now, for your insolence and ignorance, we will curse you both! You are both to take birth as human beings for seven incarnations before being allowed back into Vaikuntha."

Now, Jaya and Vijaya were both great devotees of Lord Vishnu..they loved serving Him as the holy doorkeepers and didn't want to take human birth...So they ran to Lord Vishnu crying...
"My dear Lord...We are sorry we didn't recognise the Sanat Kumaras...but please, undo their curse..We don't want to be away from your side for even a moment."

Lord Vishnu said "if there is one thing I cannot do, it is to undo the curse of the sons of my creation... please understand, the Sanat Kumaras are my grandchildren...I can, however, change the curse somewhat...You can spend seven incarnations as my devotees or one incarnation being Lord Shiva's devotees and not being able to recognise me until the moment you die".

Well of course, Jaya and Vijaya took the second option for mere expediency and they were born on Earth as Ravana and Kumbhkarn respectively..Now, Kumbhkarn is also a very interesting fellow, but I digress.

The reason why Ravana became adharmic, kidnapped Sita (Shinta) and did all those bad things, was to bring the wrath of Lord Vishnu down and thus commit suicide through the hands of a God..Well, he also had the boon from Lord Shiva that only one who is pure of heart could kill him anyway.

This is why, Lord Rama prayed to Lord Shiva before entering the kingdom of Lanka...As if to say " My dear Divine brother, is it okay with you if I now go and kill your greatest devotee? Oh and by the way, could you please make these stones float so I can get over there to do the job?" And of course, as we know...Lord Shiva gave His blessings to Lord Rama...and the rest is history.

Another movie that I really like is called Sri Manjunatha...it is a Tamil movie...also subtitled in Hindi and English...from this movie, came the best offering of Bhakti to Lord Shiva EVER.

It is mostly in Sanskrit and is a direct invocation to Lord Shiva himself...if this one is sung with devotion, Lord Shiva will appear personally...I go into an immediate and deep trance state each time I hear it...

Om Mahaprana Deepam
https://youtu.be/1lPozjD-WJA

Until next time, God bless.

Wow.Nice .Thank you for sharing ,I haven't heard this one before.

[captainamerica]

I can't get any more information on Babaji from Shiv-ji, except that even if He told you where he was currently, your wouldn't be able to afford to travel there...and by the time you can afford it, he would have moved from there.

Which baba ji is shiv ji talking about ?
I am asking this because last time I mistakenly gave you information about three Babajis and don't know which one is shiv ji talking about.

I talked to my father regarding this and he said he will help with the travel costs.
So you can tell Shiv ji that he can tell me the current location of the Babaji he was talking about (I don't know which baba ji Shiv ji was talking about) it even if I can't afford it because I talked to my father regarding this and he might give me the money to travel there(assuming that the babaji Shiv ji is talking about here is in physical body,if he is not in physical then no issue I take back this request of mine as I understand what you wrote in your message.)


He also says that you have a lot of work to do on yourself spiritually before you are pure enough and can understand these things.


What kind of work ? I do meditate but I suppose that is not enough ...


He also reiterated that Babaji is not a "physical being" like you and I.....of course he can adopt a physical appearance so that people can see him, but that is only when he chooses to do so and even trying to pinpoint the location of an Astral Being in the physical realm is very difficult...even for a God.


Is Shiv ji talking about the same(the one I can't afford to travel to ) or different Babaji here ?


I can't get any more information on Babaji from Shiv-ji, except that even if He told you where he was currently, your wouldn't be able to afford to travel there...and by the time you can afford it, he would have moved from there.

He also says that you have a lot of work to do on yourself spiritually before you are pure enough and can understand these things.

He also reiterated that Babaji is not a "physical being" like you and I.....of course he can adopt a physical appearance so that people can see him, but that is only when he chooses to do so and even trying to pinpoint the location of an Astral Being in the physical realm is very difficult...even for a God.


Yes ,I understand what Shiv ji said about the Babaji I was talking before but I have information about a new ,another Babaji ,and Lord Krisha ji helped me get this information.

Would it be possible for you to ask Shiv ji the latest question of mine about the new Babaji with the info that Sri Krishna ji provided included in the question ?

Lord Krishna provided me with the knowledge of a specific mahavtar baba ji who IS in his physical body till the Kalki avatar of Lord Vishnu ji comes,so both our issues are solved with Krishna ji's help.

If not possible to ask my question then no problem ,I won't be forcing you.

But if possible then please let me know ,I am willing to wait for even a few months to get the answer to
my new question which I formed with lord Krishna ji's help.

I really believe that this time it will lead to something positive as I believe Krishna ji's advice cannot fail.Please at least see the information of my new question for once,I am sure you will like it.So,please at least see my new question about a different Babaji ? If not ,no problem ,I won't be forcing you:smile: .

[Shivani Devi]

Please do reply to the above message if you have the time to do so.

Before you had 7,230 + posts and now it is showing only 7,219 ... how did you delete the rest ? Maybe it is a bug...

Meanwhile I came across a beautiful story about a aghori sadhu on a book that I was reading ... I am typing it up and will send it to you when it is done.

I also recommend that you check out these two books by Tara Springett so that you can do the "homework":

https://www.amazon.com/Five-Minute-Miracle-Discover-Personal-Problems/dp/157863458X/

https://www.amazon.com/Enlightenment-Through-Path-Kundalini-Overcoming/dp/1506067611/The Post thing is a funny story..

A while ago, there was a member on here who liked to create mischief, but he was also a rather endearing, if not totally annoying creature...anyway, his account was deleted by admin.

About two weeks ago, he shows up under a different account and we all knew who he was, but it took a while for admin to catch on...and nobody had the heart to report him...We wondered how long it was going to take before the gig was up, so to speak...and so, we replied to his threads and posts like normal.

I woke up today and found that admin had wised up and every thread he created was deleted and that also included every reply in those threads...so, my count went back down.

[captainamerica]

The Post thing is a funny story..

A while ago, there was a member on here who liked to create mischief, but he was also a rather endearing, if not totally annoying creature...anyway, his account was deleted by admin.

About two weeks ago, he shows up under a different account and we all knew who he was, but it took a while for admin to catch on...and nobody had the heart to report him...We wondered how long it was going to take before the gig was up, so to speak...and so, we replied to his threads and posts like normal.

I woke up today and found that admin had wised up and every thread he created was deleted and that also included every reply in those threads...so, my count went back down.

LOL:biggrin:

[Shivani Devi]

Well, Shiv-ji was speaking about this one..
https://goo.gl/images/87nhgm

Nothing more will come through...and I could say I just don't bloody know! So trying to get blood out of a stone won't work and Shiv-ji speaks on a "need to know" basis, so if He feels like answering, He will and if not, He will stay silent like Dakshinamoorthy.

[captainamerica]

Well, Shiv-ji was speaking about this one..
https://goo.gl/images/87nhgm

Nothing more will come through...and I could say I just don't bloody know! So trying to get blood out of a stone won't work and Shiv-ji speaks on a "need to know" basis, so if He feels like answering, He will and if not, He will stay silent like Dakshinamoorthy.

Okay ,okay.I won't be forcing you at all.

Do you want to see my new question ?
May be shiv ji will answer it...
Can you give it one last try for me by asking my new question to Shiv ji,if possible ?

If you don't feel like doing it ,then please don't. I won't be forcing it .But if there is an opportunity to ask it to Shiv ji one more time then please let me know and I'll forward my new question to you.

If not ,no problem,we are still friends. :biggrin:

I believe that this time Shiv ji will answer because Shiv ji only presented two main problems while trying to answer my last question and in the new formed question that I made I solved both of them.

1.The first problem that Shiv ji gave was that the babaji is not in physical body.
2.The second problem that Shiv ji gave was that there are many Mahavtar Babaji's.
You would be happy to know that I solved both of the problems in my new question.

So do you want to give my new question to Shiv ji ? Given that I solved both of the problems that Shiv ji encountered while answering my last question I believe this time Shiv ji will answer successfully.

Again.if you don't feel like doing it ,then don't I respect your feelings and descision,but I thought I will give it a last try because it is very important for me.

[Shivani Devi]

Okay ,okay.I won't be forcing you at all.

Do you want to see my new question ?
May be shiv ji will answer it...
Can you give it one last try for me by asking my new question to Shiv ji,if possible ?

If you don't feel like doing it ,then please don't. I won't be forcing it .But if there is an opportunity to ask it to Shiv ji one more time then please let me know and I'll forward my new question to you.

If not ,no problem,we are still friends. :biggrin:

I believe that this time Shiv ji will answer because Shiv ji only presented two main problems while trying to answer my last question and in the new formed question that I made I solved both of them.

1.The first problem that Shiv ji gave was that the babaji is not in physical body.
2.The second problem that Shiv ji gave was that there are many Mahavtar Babaji's.
You would be happy to know that I solved both of the problems in my new question.

So do you want to give my new question to Shiv ji ? Given that I solved both of the problems that Shiv ji encountered while answering my last question I believe this time Shiv ji will answer successfully.

Again.if you don't feel like doing it ,then don't I respect your feelings and descision,but I thought I will give it a last try because it is very important for me.Of course we are still friends.:hug3:

How it works though, is like this...You ask a question but the reply will not be immediate or direct...It will be hidden in whatever I type and so, you must know what you are looking for to be able to see it...and mind you, I don't do this on purpose...I have no control over what does and does not come through when I channel.

So, you asked about my spirit box sessions and to show you...I did that...could you see it? Nope, your subconscious mind stopped you or else you would have acknowledged the fact I did...but you were so busy getting me to read and review all of your recommendations...which I promise I will, but not today or immediately, that you just couldn't see that one of your questions had been answered already.

This is what Shiv-ji means by not 'being ready'...unless you empty your cup of all the tea that is already in there, no new tea can be poured inside...and just so you know, your insistence to have your questions answered, only goes to make Shiva more reticent in answering them...and it has nothing to do with a timeframe...if he wants you to know, he'll tell you and if not, he'll just say "go ask Krishna".

There is a demarcation dispute there and it has to do with Mohini...The female avatar of Lord Vishnu...So, in my next post, I will tell you what happened to Bhasmasur when he tried it on with Lord Shiva...The relationship between Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva is very complicated and complex... especially when it comes to their respective devotees...

[captainamerica]

Of course we are still friends.:hug3:

How it works though, is like this...You ask a question but the reply will not be immediate or direct...It will be hidden in whatever I type and so, you must know what you are looking for to be able to see it...and mind you, I don't do this on purpose...I have no control over what does and does not come through when I channel.

So, you asked about my spirit box sessions and to show you...I did that...could you see it? Nope, your subconscious mind stopped you or else you would have acknowledged the fact I did...but you were so busy getting me to read and review all of your recommendations...which I promise I will, but not today or immediately, that you just couldn't see that one of your questions had been answered already.

This is what Shiv-ji means by not 'being ready'...unless you empty your cup of all the tea that is already in there, no new tea can be poured inside...and just so you know, your insistence to have your questions answered, only goes to make Shiva more reticent in answering them...and it has nothing to do with a timeframe...if he wants you to know, he'll tell you and if not, he'll just say "go ask Krishna".

There is a demarcation dispute there and it has to do with Mohini...The female avatar of Lord Vishnu...So, in my next post, I will tell you what happened to Bhasmasur when he tried it on with Lord Shiva...The relationship between Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva is very complicated and complex... especially when it comes to their respective devotees...

Okay.I understand.
Would it be possible to ask Shiv ji the residence of a yogi I know of ?
The yogi is not advanced and is in a Physical body.
He has connections to a lot of great yogis including mahavtar baba ji and could help me find a guru...

Can I forward you my question about this yogi via PM ?

No problem if you don't want to answer it.:smile:

[Shivani Devi]

Okay.I understand.
Would it be possible to ask Shiv ji the residence of a yogi I know of ?
The yogi is not advanced and is in a Physical body.
He has connections to a lot of great yogis including mahavtar baba ji and could help me find a guru...

Can I forward you my question about this yogi via PM ?

No problem if you don't want to answer it.:smile:I am being told something.

You want Shiv-ji to tell you the address of a Yogi that you already know about WHY? Is it for the same reason you asked for all the questions to a test you will be sitting for? Is it the same reason why Kralaro asked me to ask Shiv-ji what secret code he had written down...So I could be exposed as a fake or fraud if I either couldn't or refused to answer?

What if Shiva told you where ANY Babaji lived...and you went there, but couldn't find him...Shiva may send you to Dera Dhun in UP...and you won't find Babaji there, so you will call me a fake, say that I sent you on a wild goose chase in the name of a God...but what do you know? Babaji may have decided to visit Haridwar during the week of your visitation before returning to Dera Dhun.

So now you are asking me to ask him about the location of somebody you know, when all I am getting is "why not ask him yourself? Or look on Facebook? Or ask around among his disciples?

If it circumvents all of this "testing" and your unreasonable excuses as to why it is NOT a test, I will just admit right now that I cannot channel Shiv-ji to save all the questions and the inquisition...but whether I really can or not, is something that you will never know.

Oh yeah " thanks Shivani for showing me your YouTube videos like I asked...I'll get around to watching those later as well"..

Instead of telling the tale about Bhasmasur, when I am rested, I shall relate the story about the only lie that Yudhisthira told which sent him to Hell to rescue his Pandava brothers...As it is very befitting this whole scenario.

[captainamerica]

I am being told something.

You want Shiv-ji to tell you the address of a Yogi that you already know about WHY? Is it for the same reason you asked for all the questions to a test you will be sitting for? Is it the same reason why Kralaro asked me to ask Shiv-ji what secret code he had written down...So I could be exposed as a fake or fraud if I either couldn't or refused to answer?

What if Shiva told you where ANY Babaji lived...and you went there, but couldn't find him...Shiva may send you to Dera Dhun in UP...and you won't find Babaji there, so you will call me a fake, say that I sent you on a wild goose chase in the name of a God...but what do you know? Babaji may have decided to visit Haridwar during the week of your visitation before returning to Dera Dhun.

So now you are asking me to ask him about the location of somebody you know, when all I am getting is "why not ask him yourself? Or look on Facebook? Or ask around among his disciples?

If it circumvents all of this "testing" and your unreasonable excuses as to why it is NOT a test, I will just admit right now that I cannot channel Shiv-ji to save all the questions and the inquisition...but whether I really can or not, is something that you will never know.

Oh yeah " thanks Shivani for showing me your YouTube videos like I asked...I'll get around to watching those later as well"..

Instead of telling the tale about Bhasmasur, when I am rested, I shall relate the story about the only lie that Yudhisthira told which sent him to Hell to rescue his Pandava brothers...As it is very befitting this whole scenario.

No ..big NO

I asked because I thought that the yogi can help me... And ofcourse I don't know this yogi's address mobile number or facebook or anything else that connects us... So I thought Shiv ji can give me his address ...

I currently have no other way to know this yogi's address...only Shiv ji can help...

Please don't misunderstand ... I have a weak heart and I get worried and frightened easily...

[captainamerica]

I can ask different kind of questions if you don't want to provide anyone's address ...

[captainamerica]

You can ask Shiv ji if I was testing you or not ... Atleast you trust Shiv ji ...and get back to
me if Shiv ji says "no he was not testing you ...it was a misunderstanding "...

[Shivani Devi]

No ..big NO

I asked because I thought that the yogi can help me... And ofcourse I don't know this yogi's address mobile number or facebook or anything else that connects us... So I thought Shiv ji can give me his address ...

I currently have no other way to know this yogi's address...only Shiv ji can help...

Please don't misunderstand ... I have a weak heart and I get worried and frightened easily...Either Shiv-ji doesn't know or He ain't saying.

I've told you before that whatever comes through is only meant for ME really. I told you that I didn't really want to do this in the first place... Shiva only speaks to ME and He refuses to use me as His personal "carrier pigeon".. sometimes he'll give a vague message, sometimes I will channel what is meant for ME to see if it helps anybody ELSE, but that is as far as it goes.

Shiv-ji may know of your Guru, or the address or whatever, but seeing as how it is none of MY damn businesses, He won't say.

[captainamerica]

You can ask Shiv ji if I was testing you or not ... Atleast you trust Shiv ji ...and get back to
me if Shiv ji says "no he was not testing you ...it was a misunderstanding "...

So you are not angry now ???...okay ,I was anxious again ,I told you about my problems before ..

[Shivani Devi]

You can ask Shiv ji if I was testing you or not ... Atleast you trust Shiv ji ...and get back to
me if Shiv ji says "no he was not testing you ...it was a misunderstanding "...

So you are not angry now ???...okay ,I was anxious again ,I told you about my problems before ..

Anything like an address or phone number, or test questions or secret code etc are SPECIFIC questions that Shiv-ji just don't answer.

Let's just put it another way...if I was able to do as you ask, I could go to the James Randi foundation and claim one million dollars for myself.

There are many, many sites online, started by the skeptical, who will give a lot of money and prizes...fame...notoriety to those who can channel a Deity to provide the answer to a SPECIFIC question.... which are not even as complex as the ones you are asking.

This is why I am angry.

[captainamerica]

Anything like an address or phone number, or test questions or secret code etc are SPECIFIC questions that Shiv-ji just don't answer.

Let's just put it another way...if I was able to do as you ask, I could go to the James Randi foundation and claim one million dollars for myself.

There are many, many sites online, started by the skeptical, who will give a lot of money and prizes...fame...notoriety to those who can channel a Deity to provide the answer to a SPECIFIC question.... which are not even as complex as the ones you are asking.

This is why I am angry.

I thought Shiv ji will help me find a guru a that will lead to my spiritual progress and maybe in some lifetime I would be able to fulfill Lord Krishna ji's goal of liberation/moksha to me ...

But I am really disappointed.Shiv ji was my last hope for providing me with some yogi's address ,even one will do.I tried every where else for the past few years.. and I failed everywhere ,I don't even have the money it takes to learn yoga from the experts I am connected with...

It is not your fault or responsibility but Shiv ji was really my last hope.
It is better to die than not fulfill the two goals that Krishna ji gave me ...
And currently I cannot do any in this lifetime...

I am sorry if I hurt you...but I thought Shiv ji would LOVE to help since this is regarding my spiritual progress .I should probably die anyways ...what things a piece of sh*t like me can accomplish ... and god is not helping me too... so...

[Shivani Devi]

I thought Shiv ji will help me find a guru a that will lead to my spiritual progress and maybe in some lifetime I would be able to fulfill Lord Krishna ji's goal of liberation/moksha to me ...

But I am really disappointed.Shiv ji was my last hope for providing me with some yogi's address ,even one will do.I tried every where else for the past few years.. and I failed everywhere ,I don't even have the money it takes to learn yoga from the experts I am connected with...

It is not your fault or responsibility but Shiv ji was really my last hope.
It is better to die than not fulfill the two goals that Krishna ji gave me ...
And currently I cannot do any in this lifetime...

I am sorry if I hurt you...but I thought Shiv ji would LOVE to help since this is regarding my spiritual progress .I should probably die anyways ...what things a piece of sh*t like me can accomplish ... and god is not helping me too... so...
Please don't be like that. Why do you ask for Shiv-ji to help you, when I can?

Do you actually read those things that you are referring for me? Can't you see that what you are giving me to read and to study is meant for YOU and not me? If they were of any benefit, they would have helped you already, isn't it?

I will help you if you allow it and it has nothing to do with Shiva...but I can teach you what He taught me..if you are open.

You say you love Krishna...You also need to trust how you feel about it and trust in Krishna like a close friend...like I said before.

I may have my problems...I may whine a lot, but there's one thing I know for sure..I really love myself. I love that which is in my heart...loving others is a bit of a challenge, but I am working on it.

It is not that Shiv-ji refuses to help, it is just that you aren't ready for it because you need to feel that love instead of intellectualising it... connect with that space inside yourself, despite all of this low self-esteem you have...You are beautiful and I know it.

A yogi or a Guru isn't going to help you build up self-esteem...their job is to destroy the self...The ego...All notions of you 'being' or 'doing' and so, whether you feel like sh** or not is totally irrelevant. They will just pull your ear and tell you to snap out of it. This is why Shiva isn't saying anything.

And yes, this is a test...but you are not testing me, HE is!

This is a test to see how far my empathy extends...how much I can feel for another...and I must admit to you right now, that when I was typing up that bit about self-esteem, I was getting choked up and tears were welling in my eyes...and the screen became blurry.

So, either take your own medicine, or allow me to share what is in my heart...You may get "me" you may get "Shiv" or you may get both.

Sorry to hear that my responses are making you unwell. I will pray for you...It is all I can do. <3

[captainamerica]

Please don't be like that. Why do you ask for Shiv-ji to help you, when I can?

Do you actually read those things that you are referring for me? Can't you see that what you are giving me to read and to study is meant for YOU and not me? If they were of any benefit, they would have helped you already, isn't it?

I will help you if you allow it and it has nothing to do with Shiva...but I can teach you what He taught me..if you are open.

You say you love Krishna...You also need to trust how you feel about it and trust in Krishna like a close friend...like I said before.

I may have my problems...I may whine a lot, but there's one thing I know for sure..I really love myself. I love that which is in my heart...loving others is a bit of a challenge, but I am working on it.

It is not that Shiv-ji refuses to help, it is just that you aren't ready for it because you need to feel that love instead of intellectualising it... connect with that space inside yourself, despite all of this low self-esteem you have...You are beautiful and I know it.

A yogi or a Guru isn't going to help you build up self-esteem...their job is to destroy the self...The ego...All notions of you 'being' or 'doing' and so, whether you feel like sh** or not is totally irrelevant. They will just pull your ear and tell you to snap out of it. This is why Shiva isn't saying anything.

And yes, this is a test...but you are not testing me, HE is!

This is a test to see how far my empathy extends...how much I can feel for another...and I must admit to you right now, that when I was typing up that bit about self-esteem, I was getting choked up and tears were welling in my eyes...and the screen became blurry.

So, either take your own medicine, or allow me to share what is in my heart...You may get "me" you may get "Shiv" or you may get both.

Sorry to hear that my responses are making you unwell. I will pray for you...It is all I can do. <3

It is not your fault (You know it,sorry for repeating it ) ...I took too much of your time today ... let me know if I can repay you by doing some research work for you or typing a few documents for you .

I need a guru to progress in my path ... I have even astral traveled a few times and talked to some very advanced yogis but can't retain that as i am not very powerful yet ...

I just need one help from you ,my dear Shiv ji or my dear Krishna ji... somehow make me meet with an advanced yogi who can be my guru ...
Shivani Devi ji ,if you can give me this one help somehow it would be a huge favor to me and my life would be worth living ...if you can't I understand it is not your fault and you are good person who would have helped if you had a way to help me

I will pray to lord krishna again to see if they can help(I do consider Krishna ji my friend but they never listen to me this way...)...I also thought Lord Krishna ji/Vasudev ji are one so if Shiv ji helped me ,both helped me ...

[Shivani Devi]

So, let's start on the book then and lead each other into Moksh.

I have already attained samadhi, so I have a leg-up.

I also realise that you are trying to help..and I am stubborn in accepting it, but we are like two peas in a pod in regards..

I mean anybody who likes Bam Lehri can't be half bad, isn't it? :P

Who knows...You may even get to reveal my humanity to the world.

Shiva is outside...He is Shankara, He is Rudra...He is also inside...He is Bholenath and Mahadeva.. when I speak from my heart, without my ego... without my mind... without thinking...this is when Shiva speaks...and although He has a glorious Puranic form and many Leela's, He is not held to the Beck and call of mere mortals.

To get any answers whatsoever, you must love Him as much as I do...and not piggy back off MY Bhakti bhav...this is cheating. LOL

This is the real reason why he can't help you.

[captainamerica]

Yeah ,about the book ,my dream project with you ...

I won't be forcing you,by any means ,to write the book with me.
But I will give you my plan ,introduction ,how the book will help etc. so that you may decide for yourself.Just wait a few minutes I am typing the introduction now and will send it to as soon as possible.

I don't know if you read my last response.I will paste it again here :
"It is not your fault (You know it,sorry for repeating it ) ...I took too much of your time today ... let me know if I can repay you by doing some research work for you or typing a few documents for you .

I need a guru to progress in my path ... I have even astral traveled a few times and talked to some very advanced yogis but can't retain that as i am not very powerful yet ...

I just need one help from you ,my dear Shiv ji or my dear Krishna ji... somehow make me meet with an advanced yogi who can be my guru ...
Shivani Devi ji ,if you can give me this one help somehow it would be a huge favor to me and my life would be worth living ...if you can't I understand it is not your fault and you are good person who would have helped if you had a way to help me

I will pray to lord krishna again to see if they can help(I do consider Krishna ji my friend but they never listen to me this way...)...I also thought Lord Krishna ji/Vasudev ji are one so if Shiv ji helped me ,both helped me ..."

And sorry I made you cry ,hurting you was never my intention(never!)

[Shivani Devi]

It is not your fault (You know it,sorry for repeating it ) ...I took too much of your time today ... let me know if I can repay you by doing some research work for you or typing a few documents for you .

I need a guru to progress in my path ... I have even astral traveled a few times and talked to some very advanced yogis but can't retain that as i am not very powerful yet ...

I just need one help from you ,my dear Shiv ji or my dear Krishna ji... somehow make me meet with an advanced yogi who can be my guru ...
Shivani Devi ji ,if you can give me this one help somehow it would be a huge favor to me and my life would be worth living ...if you can't I understand it is not your fault and you are good person who would have helped if you had a way to help me

I will pray to lord krishna again to see if they can help(I do consider Krishna ji my friend but they never listen to me this way...)...I also thought Lord Krishna ji/Vasudev ji are one so if Shiv ji helped me ,both helped me ...Look into your heart...then look beyond what I only appear to be...You will find the answers.

The reason why we both don't have any friends is because we are both so introverted that it's not funny.

Besides that, what if I were to do a "Morpheus" and go "what if I were to tell you that you ARE Shiva?"

No doubt that would throw the cat among the pigeons with you going "why the f*** didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

Now, are we ready to do this or not?

[Shivani Devi]

Yeah ,about the book ,my dream project with you ...

I won't be forcing you,by any means ,to write the book with me.
But I will give you my plan ,introduction ,how the book will help etc. so that you may decide for yourself.Just wait a few minutes I am typing the introduction now and will send it to as soon as possible.

I don't know if you read my last response.I will paste it again here :
"It is not your fault (You know it,sorry for repeating it ) ...I took too much of your time today ... let me know if I can repay you by doing some research work for you or typing a few documents for you .

I need a guru to progress in my path ... I have even astral traveled a few times and talked to some very advanced yogis but can't retain that as i am not very powerful yet ...

I just need one help from you ,my dear Shiv ji or my dear Krishna ji... somehow make me meet with an advanced yogi who can be my guru ...

Shivani Devi ji ,if you can give me this one help somehow it would be a huge favor to me and my life would be worth living ...if you can't I understand it is not your fault and you are good person who would have helped if you had a way to help me

I will pray to lord krishna again to see if they can help(I do consider Krishna ji my friend but they never listen to me this way...)...I also thought Lord Krishna ji/Vasudev ji are one so if Shiv ji helped me ,both helped me ..."

And sorry I made you cry ,hurting you was never my intention(never!)You didn't make me cry, silly...You opened my heart and it was love that made those tears come.

You say you love Krishna-ji...how much? DON'T ANSWER THAT!!!

Has He ever made you cry? I don't mean tears of sadness, but tears of pure joy? Have you ever expressed that love with ALL your heart...like Draupadi did, letting go of her sari in FULL surrender?

I wrote a commentary on the Shvetashvatara Upanishad once... outlining the concept of PRANIDHANA..do you know what this means?

Now, I don't know how many times I need to repeat this, but I AM a Yogi... Maybe not a fully committed and practicing one anymore, because I lack purpose and motivation, just like you do.

After samadhi, comes a bit of a letdown along with the bliss...Okay, so I have reached the top of the mountain, now what?

We can help each other...and if you want to co-author a book with me, you can start by reading my commentaries and interpretations of all the Shastras...followed by the Agamas...are you up for the challenge? and of course, nobody said that this is going to be easy...and I love you by the way...Just don't expect me to ever repeat that.

[captainamerica]

You didn't make me cry, silly...You opened my heart and it was love that made those tears come.

You say you love Krishna-ji...how much? DON'T ANSWER THAT!!!

Has He ever made you cry? I don't mean tears of sadness, but tears of pure joy? Have you ever expressed that love with ALL your heart...like Draupadi did, letting go of her sari in FULL surrender?
I wrote a commentary on the Shvetashvatara Upanishad once... outlining the concept of PRANIDHANA..

Now, I don't know how many times I need to repeat this, but I'm a Yogi... Maybe not a fully committed and practicing one anymore, but I lack purpose and Motivation, just like you do.

After samadhi, comes a bit of a letdown along with the bliss...Okay, so I have reached the top of the mountain, now what?

We can help each other...and if you want to co-author a book with me, you can start by reading my commentaries and interpretations of all the Shastra...followed by the Agamas...are you up for the challenge? and of course, nobody said that this is going to be easy...and I love you by the way...Just never expect me to ever repeat that.

Yes ,any challenge for the book will do.
Let me know which of your commentaries,books and resources you want me to go through I will do it.

BTW, What do you think about success and people chasing it ?
And I mean success in general money ,fame,spirituality ,education etc. all included .Some people think chasing success by proper means is bad ...

What do you think about it ?...

Please let me know.

And,How did you reach samadhi ?

I will let you know about my idea of the book soon...

[Shivani Devi]

Yes ,any challenge for the book will do.
Let me know which of your commentaries,books and resources you want me to go through I will do it.

BTW, What do you think about success and people chasing it ?
And I mean success in general money ,fame,spirituality ,education etc. all included .Some people think chasing success by proper means is bad ...

What do you think about it ?...

Please let me know.

And,How did you reach samadhi ?

I will let you know about my idea of the book soon...How did I reach samadhi you ask? Good question.

As you know by now, I am a Shiv bhakt. Like you, I was attached to and confined by a mental image or a concept of what who/what Shiva was in my own mind...I still have that, but now I am free to worship Lord Shiva AS a concept, rather than letting the limitations of my own mind define Him in my own way.

Now, what I am about to tell you goes very deep...not many know of it....You give me things to look at about Kundalini and stuff which is like kindergarten teachings to me...and no offence is intended, but if you only knew... which you don't, so I forgive you...and it's okay, so stop apologising already. LOL

Okay, you may or may not be familiar with the Ajna Chakra...The "Third-Eye"...

Between the Third Eye and the Bindu Chakra, there is a knot of nerves and grey matter...this is called the Rudra Granthi...It is controlled by Sadashiva..by the formless aspect of Brahman.

The Rudra Granthi has to do with the whole aspect of conception, perception, seeing yourself as "different" or "separate" from whatever is going on around you... thinking that you are "here" and guru-ji is "there" or Shiv-ji lives on top of Mt Kailasha and rides Nandi...or Krishna lifted up Goverdhana Hill using His pinky finger because Indra wanted to test Him...All of this are stories..they may be real or not, but our lives become defined by them and we lose touch and sight of the Divinity within.

So, as I was praying to Lord Shiva one day, in full on Bhakti, I realised that I had to stop loving Shiva...to even give up the whole concept OF a Shiva and just surrender the love itself, the Bhakti itself..at first, I couldn't do it...The fear was overwhelming...I loved Shiva TOO much..I was totally attached...but even this attachment had to go...So that the Rudra Granthi could be untied..and Kundalini could move through that final knot which leads from Bhakti to Parabhakti..and thus, to samadhi.

[Shivani Devi]

Yes ,any challenge for the book will do.
Let me know which of your commentaries,books and resources you want me to go through I will do it.

BTW, What do you think about success and people chasing it ?
And I mean success in general money ,fame,spirituality ,education etc. all included .Some people think chasing success by proper means is bad ...

What do you think about it ?...

Please let me know.

And,How did you reach samadhi ?

I will let you know about my idea of the book soon...here we go
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=118919

Oh, there are many more...

We shall start with the Dakshinamoorthy Stotram
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/dast/dast13.htm

Accompanied by the bhajan

https://youtu.be/q2nDDapB7Sc

Now, listen to the words of it...open your heart and let them sink in deep...

This is my Guru.

[captainamerica]

Would it possible for you to ask Shiv ji a simple yes or no question...

I will give you some details about saint Raman ji.

And my question is "does the saint still live in his old place in Badrinath or not ?"

It is a simple yes or no question.I suppose Shiv ji can answer this ?
But I don't know for sure ... Do you think Shiv ji will answer the above question ?

If not,I understand...

If Shiv ji says yes I will go on a search to find the saint myself ...

[Shivani Devi]

Would it possible for you to ask Shiv ji a simple yes or no question...

I will give you some details about saint Raman ji.

And my question is "does the saint still live in his old place in Badrinath or not ?"

It is a simple yes or no question.I suppose Shiv ji can answer this ?
But I don't know for sure ... Do you think Shiv ji will answer the above question ?

If not,I understand...

If Shiv ji says yes I will go on a search to find the saint myself ...*sigh*
You aren't getting any of this, are you?

Babaji Himself could come knocking on your door and you will say "go away, I'm looking for Babaji, not you".

What part of "Shiv-ji is inside your heart" don't you get?

I know it isn't your intention to frustrate me....but you ask me questions, I answer them, you never acknowledge my answers and then say "can you please ask Shiv-ji this?".

I realise you are frail, have a weak heart, have no strength, have no self esteem, are suicidal, but mate, you are very selfish. I am not being disrespectful, but if you want to obtain Moksh, the very FIRST step is NOT wanting to attain it.

You asked me how I attained Samadhi...I explained it and it would have answered ALL your questions if you only read it...or is being able to understand it your problem? How are we ever going to collaborate on a book like this?

No, I will not ask Shiv-ji anything more on your behalf until you study the Dakshinamoorthy Stotram, read my commentaries on the Upanishads, listen to the Bombay Sisters, tell me about that Aghori you mentioned and accept me as your teacher...if you can't, then I would like to know, so I can stop wasting my time here.

[captainamerica]

*sigh*
You aren't getting any of this, are you?

Babaji Himself could come knocking on your door and you will say "go away, I'm looking for Babaji, not you".

What part of "Shiv-ji is inside your heart" don't you get?

I know it isn't your intention to frustrate me....but you ask me questions, I answer them, you never acknowledge my answers and then say "can you please ask Shiv-ji this?".

I realise you are frail, have a weak heart, have no strength, have no self esteem, are suicidal, but mate, you are very selfish. I am not being disrespectful, but if you want to obtain Moksh, the very FIRST step is NOT wanting to attain it.

You asked me how I attained Samadhi...I explained it and it would have answered ALL your questions if you only read it...or is being able to understand it your problem? How are we ever going to collaborate on a book like this?

No, I will not ask Shiv-ji anything more on your behalf until you study the Dakshinamoorthy Stotram, read my commentaries on the Upanishads, listen to the Bombay Sisters, tell me about that Aghori you mentioned and accept me as your teacher...if you can't, then I would like to know, so I can stop wasting my time here.

Yeah ,I'll do that,and all that you say.

Actually the Agori's story took me time because I had to type a whole chapter from the physical book to my computer.

I am typing it ,that will be first thing I do ...

[Shivani Devi]

Yeah ,I'll do that,and all that you say.

Actually the Agori's story took me time because I had to type a whole chapter from the physical book to my computer.

I am typing it ,that will be first thing I do ...Thank you. :hug3:

I would also like you to reread this thread a few times to try and understand what I have been saying to you...and I could revert to pure Sanskrit if it makes it easier for you.. although typing in IAST or Devanagari is a total pain on this phone...I have spent all day and night trying to figure out how to do it.

For now, I am off to bed... goodnight.

[captainamerica]

An Aghori from Banaras

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Nice story ,isn't it ?

Please let me know if you have trouble reading any of the above...

Good night to you as well.



Shivani Devi ji ,Can you please tell me what is shakti pat and how to receive it from you without causing any of us any harm ?

[Shivani Devi]

What an awesome story! I enjoyed that immensely...and you are really going to enjoy Naan Kadavul. =)

The Aghori do not tolerate greed, sin and stupidity...they will speak their minds straight away...but it is all an act...It is all for show, because they can turn it off as soon as they turn it on and remain totally unaffected by it. This is one of the traits of a self-realised being and not a madman...I was an Aghori in a past life.

There is an immense freedom that comes with simply being yourself no matter what and speaking from the heart...even if that offends another who honestly deserves it. The Aghori can look through people to their very soul and speak directly to how things are, without any diplomacy, boot licking, kowtowing, niceties... because they are MORE for "show and tell" than what telling another to "eff off" is...I love it...and an aspect of this still remains deep inside me because I don't suffer fools gladly either.

About the Shaktipat...Yes, I can do it, but I have never tried doing it online and don't know how logistically feasible it would be... although, I was sharing the love I was feeling earlier on, and you seemed closed off to it...but I also know you are capable of opening up to me because of how you feel that your reactions and behaviours influence me and this makes you feel sad...so there is definitely a connection there and something I can work with.. however, Shaktipat is also given at the right place and time... circumstances must be conducive for it and it also depends on the Grace of God...So, your intentions are noted and all I can say is, if it is meant to happen, it will.

Now, tomorrow, I get paid.. instead of topping up this silly phone with internet credit...I am going cross-eyed trying to read stuff and I can't do anything in Devanagari...I'm going to put credit back on my wi-fi modem dongle that is attached to my laptop... that is attached to my 81cm plasma TV via a VGA cable and to my Cannon color printer... that I also need to buy ink for...and then I shall be cooking with gas...oh yes indeedy my friend.

I mean, how the hell does one copy and paste text on a mobile phone? Whose silly idea was this? LOL

Oh and did you get the chance to read Chapter 9 of the Dakshinamurthy Stotram? It isn't long, but explains all of Patanjali's Yoga aphorisms in one page.

....and of course you know what happens to dogs when they eat Patanjali dog food, right?

https://goo.gl/images/xY98eS

[captainamerica]

As recommended by you I have re-read the whole thread again.

Below are my comments and questions based on the full thread,please respond to my comments and answer the questions ,if possible and when you have the time to do so.

1.
Thirdly I didn't know how you would take the news that nobody can live for 400 years...not even an enlightened yogi or mystic like Baba.


Did Shiv ji said it or Sadhguru said it or somebody else ?
Please let me know who said it because if Shiv ji said then I have to think more about it.

2."The alpha forgiveness method I told you about earlier is a copy from the same 15,000$ training.If you feel like it then please do practice it.

I can write the method here step-by-step ,if you want me to.I'd be more than glad to."

Here is the method.

1.Go into Alpha meditation, Turiya or Samadhi state.You can ask from Shiv ji how to go into this state.

2.Imagine an open area which you are familiar with.

3.In that area call that person ,event or thing that hurted you in the past.

4.In that area call three if your guides.(Shiv ji should be one of them)

5.Accuse openly (like in a court ) the person ,event or thing that hurted you
and feel that hurt for 2 min.

6.After the two min. are over believe that your alpha is rising and forgive
the person ,thing or event saying that "I now forgive you completely "
and then say to that person ,thing or event "I now forgive you completely and ask that you forgive me completely as well"
and imagine that person ,thing or event saying to you "I now forgive you completely as well".

7.After that ask your three guides (including Shiv ji ) that if your forgiveness was effective and you are done for now...
If any of the guides say "no" then repeat the process again.If all of the three guides say yes than move on from
that person ,thing or event.

This exercise effectively removes negative charges stored in the nervous system and gives one true
emotional and psychosomatic freedom if the exercise if practiced repeatedly.

3.http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/dast/dast13.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2nDDapB7Sc&feature=youtu.be
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=118919


You gave me the above links.I did take a look at them a few times but will go through them again a few more times to insure perfect comprehension.

4.Oh and did you get the chance to read Chapter 9 of the Dakshinamurthy Stotram? It isn't long, but explains all of Patanjali's Yoga aphorisms in one page.
Yes,I did read it.But will read it again to insure full comprehension.

5.I can't get any more information on Babaji from Shiv-ji, except that even if He told you where he was currently, your wouldn't be able to afford to travel there...and by the time you can afford it, he would have moved from there.

He also says that you have a lot of work to do on yourself spiritually before you are pure enough and can understand these things.

I promise to do "the work" on myself.Shivani Devi ji and Shiv ji feel free to guide me on this.

Shiv ji says even if he told me I would not have the money to travel there.My request is that Shiv ji please tell me where they are as my father will give the money to travel there and he will do so now .

What do you say about my above suggestion Shivani Devi ji ?

6.Now, my birth name is Dianne... Shivani is my Balinese name...Well, it is actually Ciwani Dewi.

There is something you asked of me before, and I will answer your questions as they present themselves to me...and one at a time, but the answer can appear anywhere...not necessarily where you asked it.
https://youtu.be/We5nonxAKMM

My channel is just Dianne Morris...you will find a few ghost box sessions on there, but not many. I gave up talking to them because it was getting me nowhere.

I did take a look at it the moment you suggested it to me.

7.Well, Shiv-ji was speaking about this one..
https://goo.gl/images/87nhgm

How are you sure Shiv ji is talking about this one exactly ?
There are many Mahavtar Babaji but this one shows first on google images because he is the most popular one.

8.

Okay, so about that trap I'm caught in..

I have seen the full extent of what I'm capable of...or rather, the capabilities that present themselves through me... because by that time, any notion of "I" doesn't exist, and it terrifies me. I have held the power and immediately threw it away like a hot potato...The responsibility that comes with enlightenment is huge, my friend. It is sort of like "this was never part of the deal I signed up for". Yes, there is bliss and love...there is also the ability to warp space and time...to change reality and the physical laws of the universe myself...and I am like DO NOT WANT.

There is also the full transmutation into the Light Body, so you are only a walking shell...A mere husk of a human...A Ghost whilst alive, who walks between planes...not belonging to any World whatsoever, yet has a foot in all of them...DO NOT WANT.

So, I have been holding it back...The full force of my "true self" because it makes me wet my pants and cry "mamma". I have only been letting it through in small increments..As much as I can handle, but it's not good enough.. and it is eroding my soul on every level.


Based on all of my knowledge combined I can just suggest that you should go through an Alpha forgiveness training or take coaching from Tara Springett.

9.

I've told you before that whatever comes through is only meant for ME really. I told you that I didn't really want to do this in the first place... Shiva only speaks to ME and He refuses to use me as His personal "carrier pigeon".. sometimes he'll give a vague message, sometimes I will channel what is meant for ME to see if it helps anybody ELSE, but that is as far as it goes.

Shiv-ji may know of your Guru, or the address or whatever, but seeing as how it is none of MY damn businesses, He won't say.


Remember Shiv ji once told you that" your purpose is not to be a medium BUT IT IS to see in the unseen dimensions and help people in their spiritual journey/progress."So I suppose it is not wrong in helping others in this way with the help and guidance of Shiv ji.

And I don't care if Shiv ji sometimes refuses to answer some question,but what matters to me is that you tried to ask it from Shiv ji ,and for that I am really thankful to you.I believe that trying is important because who knows ,maybe Shiv ji just might answer that important question ...

10.
Anything like an address or phone number, or test questions or secret code etc are SPECIFIC questions that Shiv-ji just don't answer.

Let's just put it another way...if I was able to do as you ask, I could go to the James Randi foundation and claim one million dollars for myself.

There are many, many sites online, started by the skeptical, who will give a lot of money and prizes...fame...notoriety to those who can channel a Deity to provide the answer to a SPECIFIC question.... which are not even as complex as the ones you are asking.

This is why I am angry.

Maybe Shiv ji will answer where Mahavtar Babaji is for my spiritual growth ?

Tonight while sleeping another positive guidance that somebody (maybe Shiv ji ) will answer the question of where Mahavtar Baba ji is currently.

I have cracked the code to spiritual progress ,many types of spiritual progress,but it will take several weeks of training with a scientific equipment to get there each week costing 15,000 $ or more .I don't have that much money.But I have found an alternate way in which advanced yogis can just initiate me and give me the same progress without taking a fortune that I don't have.

11.So, let's start on the book then and lead each other into Moksh.

I have already attained samadhi, so I have a leg-up.

I also realise that you are trying to help..and I am stubborn in accepting it, but we are like two peas in a pod in regards..

I mean anybody who likes Bam Lehri can't be half bad, isn't it? :P

Who knows...You may even get to reveal my humanity to the world.

Shiva is outside...He is Shankara, He is Rudra...He is also inside...He is Bholenath and Mahadeva.. when I speak from my heart, without my ego... without my mind... without thinking...this is when Shiva speaks...and although He has a glorious Puranic form and many Leela's, He is not held to the Beck and call of mere mortals.

To get any answers whatsoever, you must love Him as much as I do...and not piggy back off MY Bhakti bhav...this is cheating. LOL

This is the real reason why he can't help you.

Okay, So I will start loving Shiv ji more and more everyday.
Will then someday Shiv ji be able to answer my questions and help me ?

12.

wrote a commentary on the Shvetashvatara Upanishad once... outlining the concept of PRANIDHANA..do you know what this means?

We can help each other...and if you want to co-author a book with me, you can start by reading my commentaries and interpretations of all the Shastras...followed by the Agamas...are you up for the challenge? and of course, nobody said that this is going to be easy...and I love you by the way...Just don't expect me to ever repeat that.


I will read those on google soon.

13.

You aren't getting any of this, are you?

Babaji Himself could come knocking on your door and you will say "go away, I'm looking for Babaji, not you".

What part of "Shiv-ji is inside your heart" don't you get?

I know it isn't your intention to frustrate me....but you ask me questions, I answer them, you never acknowledge my answers and then say "can you please ask Shiv-ji this?".

I realise you are frail, have a weak heart, have no strength, have no self esteem, are suicidal, but mate, you are very selfish. I am not being disrespectful, but if you want to obtain Moksh, the very FIRST step is NOT wanting to attain it.

You asked me how I attained Samadhi...I explained it and it would have answered ALL your questions if you only read it...or is being able to understand it your problem? How are we ever going to collaborate on a book like this?

No, I will not ask Shiv-ji anything more on your behalf until you study the Dakshinamoorthy Stotram, read my commentaries on the Upanishads, listen to the Bombay Sisters, tell me about that Aghori you mentioned and accept me as your teacher...if you can't, then I would like to know, so I can stop wasting my time here.


I will read those ,I have already began reading Dakshinamoorthy Stotram.
Where can I find your commentaries on the Upanishads ?

So that's it from the thread.
I really need an advanced yogi to help me and I will tell you why soon and I bet that you will like my reason about why I need an advanced yogi to help me ... I request you that at least you try some questions, related to my above pursuit of finding an advanced yogi, with Shiv ji. Questions that seem viable to you.Even if Shiv ji does not answer it I have no problem ,at least please try the questions that you are okay with asking ...

I understand if you don't want to answer it with Shiv ji ,but should I send you my new question from PM ? Maybe you will like the question ...
So can I send the question just for your seeing ?

Let me know if I missed something.

[Shivani Devi]

You just want me to subscribe to YOUR own agenda... you would make a good salesman.
You are involved in a cult, my friend.

If what you preach had any benefit, you would not be in the state YOU are in, isn't it?

Shiv-ji has instructed me not to have anything to do with you anymore because I am only wasting my time as you have severe mental problems which require a psychiatrist and not a guru. I shall obey His instructions, because you have not listened to one word I have said.

Let's just put it this way...I am NOT INTERESTED in doing the Biocybernaut Training Program - money or NOT.
I am also NOT INTERESTED in looking at whatever anybody who IS has to say about it.
I am NOT INTERESTED in Tara Springett and for the love of God, I don't effing CARE about Babaji and even if you WERE to find a Guru, when you carry on like this in front of them, they will tell you to use the loan from your father to get a good doctor as well.

If you want to kill yourself over this, go ahead, I shall just look the other way.

This is MY "hidden Aghori" coming out now.

[captainamerica]

Also I accept you as my teacher ... the Dakshinamoorthy strotam chapter 9 is done !

[captainamerica]

Wait give me chance I ,I was listening to everything you say plus I wanted to share the question for your seeing ,not asking it from Shiv ji !!!

I was doing every thing you say ,right ?

Because the question is very perfect ,I wanted share with you as a friend,you will know when you see it...

[Shivani Devi]

Wait give me chance I ,I was listening to everything you say plus I wanted to share the question for your seeing ,not asking it from Shiv ji !!!

I was doing every thing you say ,right ?

Because the question is very perfect ,I wanted share with you as a friend,you will know when you see it...
If you agree to this, I do not want to hear another word about Babaji, Tara, the Forgiveness program, your search for a Guru, or get me to ask Shiva anything, because He will come through me WITHOUT the asking.

Also, when I am pushed, I will run far, far away and you won't see me for dust.

I'm trying to bypass your mind here to reach your heart...when you read what I type, you need to look BEYOND the words...when I asked you to re-read the thread, I did not mean from the perspective of " I WANT" ..." I WANT" ...."I WANT and I WANT it NOW". I was trying to get you to see those things I've started teaching you already...and obviously failing to do so. Get it?

Now, I need a few hours to watch some lectures given by Raja Choudhury and Dr Karan Singh... you should try it sometimes.

[Shivani Devi]

Also I accept you as my teacher ... the Dakshinamoorthy strotam chapter 9 is done !
What did you understand from it?

[captainamerica]

If you agree to this, I do not want to hear another word about Babaji, Tara, the Forgiveness program, your search for a Guru, or get me to ask Shiva anything, because He will come through me WITHOUT the asking.

Also, when I am pushed, I will run far, far away and you won't see me for dust.

I'm trying to bypass your mind here to reach your heart...when you read what I type, you need to look BEYOND the words...when I asked you to re-read the thread, I did not mean from the perspective of " I WANT" ..." I WANT" ...."I WANT and I WANT it NOW". I was trying to get you to see those things I've started teaching you...and obviously failing to do so. Get it?

Now, I need a few hours to watch some lectures given by Raja Choudhury and Dr Karan Singh... you should try it sometimes.

Oh ,okay ...okay .then I will have to go through the thread again .on it now !

It is completely fine if you don't want to see the question.But as a researcher and an analyst that question is from my wet dreams.It is just well rounded off and perfect in any way ,but I understand that you do not even want to see it.Bad news for me ,but it is what it is ,no problem ...

Now I have only one way left ,to be hardcore :smile: and go to the city of Badrinath and search for the yogi myself ,I'll give it a try if my father gives me the money to travel.

Okay I won't be pushy ,but ask politely ...Are you still interested in the book or are you still very angry ?

Should I send you the book proposal I wrote yesterday or not ? I am asking this because I was planning to send it to you today ,but you don't want me to be pushy ,so I thought I should ask before sending...

Oh !,that was hard ...

[Shivani Devi]

Oh ,okay ...okay .then I will have to go through the thread again .on it now !

It is completely fine if you don't want to see the question.But as a researcher and an analyst that question is from my wet dreams.It is just well rounded off and perfect in any way ,but I understand that you do not even want to see it.Bad news for me ,but it is what it is ,no problem ...

Now I have only one way left ,to be hardcore :smile: and go to the city of Badrinath and search for the yogi myself ,I'll give it a try if my father gives me the money to travel.

Okay I won't be pushy ,but ask politely ...Are you still interested in the book or are you still very angry ?

Should I send you the book proposal I wrote yesterday or not ? I am asking this because I was planning to send it to you today ,but you don't want me to be pushy ,so I thought I should ask before sending...

Oh !,that was hard ...Let me get back to you about it when I have cooled off...but if I were you, I would forget Bhadrinath and head straight for Kashi (Varanasi).....If you can't find a Yogi there, then something is wrong.

Aaahhh to attend a Maha Kumbh would be a wet dream of MINE, dear one...see, I am starting to calm down already...

Send me the proposal by all means... I look forward to seeing it.

[captainamerica]

What did you understand from it?

I understood a lot of things from chapter 9 ,but not all the things...

I will mention them here one by one by editing this post of mine...

I'll let you know soon(After I take a bath and study a few questions which are probably gonna be in the exam next month)

[Shivani Devi]

I understood a lot of things from chapter 9 ,but not all the things...

I will mention them here one by one by editing this post of mine... Thanks for that... now, I am still lost in my daydreams of going to the Khumba Mela... seeing millions of naked Nagas pull cars with the foreskin of their penis.... I have very strange daydreams.

The next Kumbh will be in 2022 at Haridwar...I'll be there...If ONLY in spirit...

[captainamerica]

Thanks for that... now, I am still lost in my daydreams of going to the Khumba Mela... seeing millions of naked Nagas pull cars with the foreskin of their penis.... I have very strange daydreams.

The next Kumbh will be in 2022 at Haridwar...I'll be there...If ONLY in spirit...


I will be there to ... If I am alive by that time....

If you are not angry ,can I please ask you a personal question ?

How on Earth did you get the ability to channel Shivji and your higher self ?

The last time I asked it to you said complete surrender to Shivji's will is necessary ...

any thing else ? Any method by which I can get the ability to channel Krishna ji or Shiv ji ?

If yes,and if the question is not too personal then please let me know.I really need some help.

[Shivani Devi]

Okay, So I will start loving Shiv ji more and more everyday.
Will then someday Shiv ji be able to answer my questions and help me.
You can't "start" to love Shiv-ji, if you don't already. Besides, I thought your Ishta Devata was Lord Krishna.

Both are one and the same anyway, just different aspects of Saguna Brahman.

However, something must happen to you inside when you look deeply at an image or murti...when I look at Krishna, Devi, Ganesha, Murugan, Vishnu etc, I feel nothing...empty...but when I see an image of Lord Shiva, it feels like my heart is being ripped out... this is how I can tell that He is my Ishta Devata.

You need to have that same bhav...if you see Krishna OR Shiva to know who is guiding you...who has taken the reigns of your soul.

So, be it Shiva, Krishna or whatever Devata, they will help you if you truly love them and they will also answer your questions...but bear in mind, you may NOT want to hear the answers.

[Shivani Devi]

I will be there to ... If I am alive by that time....

If you are not angry ,can I please ask you a personal question ?

How on Earth did you get the ability to channel Shivji and your higher self ?

The last time I asked it to you said complete surrender to Shivji's will is necessary ...

any thing else ? Any method by which I can get the ability to channel Krishna ji or Shiv ji ?

If yes,and if the question is not too personal then please let me know.I really need some help.
I just made a post below while you were typing that up which may go towards answering this..I will tell you how with instructions a bit later, as I need shower and food as well..and to finish watching a lecture..

I just heard a poem just now...It was beautiful.

There was a young man who said "God..
I find it exceedingly odd,
That a tree, as a tree,
Simply ceases to be,
When there no-one around in the quad"

The reply:

"Young man, your astonishment's odd,
I'm ALWAYS around in the quad,
So the tree, as a tree,
Never ceases to be,
Since observed by your's faithfully, God"

[captainamerica]

I just made a post below while you were typing that up which may go towards answering this..I will tell you how with instructions a bit later, as I need shower and food as well..and to finish watching a lecture..

I just heard a poem just now...It was beautiful.

There was a young man who said "God..
I find it exceedingly odd,
That a tree, as a tree,
Simply ceases to be,
When there no-one around in the quad"

The reply:

"Young man, your astonishment's odd,
I'm ALWAYS around in the quad,
So the tree, as a tree,
Never ceases to be,
Since observed by your's faithfully, God"

Nice poem.

I have heard that kundalini shakti and mastery over it can lead to channeling shiddhi,which can allow the possessor of that siddhi talk to higher beings and god.That's all I know and would love hear what you have to say on it.

[captainamerica]

You can't "start" to love Shiv-ji, if you don't already. Besides, I thought your Ishta Devata was Lord Krishna.

Both are one and the same anyway, just different aspects of Saguna Brahman.

However, something must happen to you inside when you look deeply at an image or murti...when I look at Krishna, Devi, Ganesha, Murugan, Vishnu etc, I feel nothing...empty...but when I see an image of Lord Shiva, it feels like my heart is being ripped out... this is how I can tell that He is my Ishta Devata.

You need to have that same bhav...if you see Krishna OR Shiva to know who is guiding you...who has taken the reigns of your soul.

So, be it Shiva, Krishna or whatever Devata, they will help you if you truly love them and they will also answer your questions...but bear in mind, you may NOT want to hear the answers.

I feel something in my heart area when I think about Shiv ji ...
But I owe so much to "both" of them.
I will try it with Krishna ji first ...

Shivji once gave a divine promise that every one of his bhakts/devotees will also be the bhakt of
lord Ram ji/Vishnu ji .

[Shivani Devi]

Nice poem.

I have heard that kundalini shakti and mastery over it can lead to channeling shiddhi,which can allow the possessor of that siddhi talk to higher beings and god.That's all I know and would love hear what you have to say on it.
This is pretty much correct.. especially when She reaches the Third Eye.

Haven't you ever talked to yourself? Maybe asked questions that your "own mind" answered? Only to either totally dismiss it AS being your own thoughts...or to say "duh..if I already knew the answer, why ask the question?"

So, you begin to watch your thoughts in meditation... don't get hung up on any thought, just allow them to pass...to rise within your mind...then fall away, like the waves on the ocean..

After a while, you start to have thoughts, but these seem to arise externally from the mind or brain...at first, it is rather confusing, but occasionally, these thoughts that come in make you feel stuff through the heart and you will become aware of different subtle vibrations, to let you know who is speaking...then one will come through with such a high vibration, so much light and love that it will put you on your a$$ and then there's no DOUBT who or what that is.. also, a vision will often accompany it.

There is a reason why Shiv-ji is called "Mahadeva". Maha means "great" and Deva means "Shining One" and this is basically how He comes through.

[Shivani Devi]

I feel something in my heart area when I think about Shiv ji ...
But I owe so much to "both" of them.
I will try it with Krishna ji first ...

Shivji once gave a divine promise that every one of his bhakts/devotees will also be the bhakt of
lord Ram ji/Vishnu ji .This is why Lord Hanuman is often considered to be an Avatar of Lord Shiva.

[captainamerica]

This is why Lord Hanuman is often considered to be an Avatar of Lord Shiva.

Yes ,you got it right !

I have a lot of scientific data about a fellow "channeler" named Dr. Elmer Gates ,some data about kundalini and how it leads to channleing ability and an optimized protocol to get these type of abilities given by the scientist Dr. James Hardt.

Would you be interested in writing a 5-20 page dissertation ,with Shiv ji's help ,on how can one get the channeling ability as efficiently as possible to channel their Ishta Deva for getting Spiritual guidance ?

I know where to start and have some data ...plus I know the right questions to ask because I have read two books on the subject and know a little bit about it ...the current knowledge on this subject is not practical but with Shiv ji's help it can be practical for me and others ...

If you don't want to do it then okay ,no problem,but please don't be angry I am just politely asking it as such a 5-20 page document will help a lot of people including me.

[Shivani Devi]

Yes ,you got it right !

I have a lot of scientific data about a fellow "channeler" named Dr. Elmer Gates ,some data about kundalini and how it leads to channleing ability and an optimized protocol to get these type of abilities given by the scientist Dr. James Hardt.

Would you be interested in writing a 5-20 page dissertation ,with Shiv ji's help ,on how can one get the channeling ability as efficiently as possible to channel their Ishta Deva for getting Spiritual guidance ?

I know where to start and have some data ...plus I know the right questions to ask because I have read two books on the subject and know a little bit about it ...the current knowledge on this subject is not practical but with Shiv ji's help it can be practical for me and others ...

If you don't want to do it then okay ,no problem,but please don't be angry I am just politely asking it as such a 5-20 page document will help a lot of people including me.
Why not start with that "one post dissertation" that I made two posts ago when you asked the question? : P

Oh, you wanted to read some of my stuff then eh?

We shall start with Vishishtadvaita or Bedhabedha Tattwa as it applies to the different schools of Non Puranic Shaivism...and what happens when I smoke too much ganja. LOL

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=120562

[Shivani Devi]

Yes ,you got it right !

I have a lot of scientific data about a fellow "channeler" named Dr. Elmer Gates ,some data about kundalini and how it leads to channleing ability and an optimized protocol to get these type of abilities given by the scientist Dr. James Hardt.
Well, if that's working for YOU, great...So, why ask me these things when you are already so blindly indoctrinated, that you can't even go for a few hours without mentioning something from your $15,000 USD training program? The word "brainwashed" comes to mind.

Oh, I know, this is like spiritual Avon or Tupperware...

Now I shall go and listen to more Alan Watts...put it this way...and it's the easiest way to put it..my consciousness has totally blown out...So trying to put it back inside a box just so I can communicate with you is very difficult...We need to overcome that somehow.

[Shivani Devi]

Meanwhile, I'm just gonna do this..
https://youtu.be/naHnen8m_wo

And this...
https://youtu.be/QA5x5isHaok

And that's all there is, folks :)

Enjoy the thread?

Aum Namah Shivaya

[captainamerica]

Sorry for not responding ,I am really really busy studying for my term-end-sem .

I will get back to you as soon as possible ,please don't mind.

::smile::

[Shivani Devi]

Sorry for not responding ,I am really really busy studying for my term-end-sem .

I will get back to you as soon as possible ,please don't mind.

::smile::
That's fine...study away...I hope you do well in your examinations. Take your time etc.
Take all the time you need, in fact because I am going to sleep now...and at least I have the courtesy of letting you know. :P

Before I leave...

There once was a demon called Bhasmasur...Well, that wasn't his real name and nobody knew what it was.

Bhasmasur wasn't really a devotee of Lord Shiva, but he had heard that if he did tapasya and prayed to Him for long enough, Lord Shiva may bestow a boon or two...and so he got busy praying.

For years he prayed, standing on one leg, beseeching Shiva, calling His name... totally disturbing Shiva's meditation and making Kailasha tremble..

In the end, Lord Shiva could take no more of it and so He went and gave darshan to Bhasmasur...Shiva said "okay, I am here, so what do you want?"

Bhasmasur said that he wanted the power to burn anybody to ash, merely by placing his hand on their head...and that neither mortals nor immortals would escape being destroyed this way. He also asked that nobody else would be able to kill him.

Lord Shiva granted these wishes, but then Bhasmasur wanted to test his newfound Powers out...On Lord Shiva Himself!!!

Shiva managed to dodge Bhasmasur and escape back to Kailasha, but Bhasmasur followed Him there...in fact, wherever Lord Shiva went, He could not escape Bhasmasur trying to incinerate Him by touching His head.

Eventually, Lord Shiva fled to Vaikuntha... Bhasmasur couldn't locate Him there...but Shiva realised that He created a monster who could end up destroying the three worlds, so He confided in Lord Vishnu and told Him the whole problem. Lord Vishnu thought long and hard, then came up with a plan.

Lord Vishnu transformed into His female form...Mohini...The most beautiful and ravishing woman in the universe..So Mohini went down to Earth, where Bhasmasur was staying, and she started to seduce him and hypnotise him with the movement of her hips and eyes... Bhasmasur fell into an intoxicated stupor of lust and Mohini started to dance.

She was like " I bet you can't do what I do...and if you can do it and follow my dance moves, I'll let you have your way with me"...So, Mohini shimmed to the left, Bhasmasur did likewise...she shimmed to the right... Bhasmasur followed the steps...Mohini raised her left leg...So did Bhasmasur...she raised her right one...The demon kept up the steps with her... Mohini placed her hand on top of her head...So did Bhasmasur....and burnt himself to a crumbling pile of ash which then blew away in the wind..

Lord Shiva watched all this, but also became hypnotised and infatuated with Mohini...she is the ultimate seductress...and Lord Shiva was the ultimate potent masculine energy...She had a thing for Him as well...and so it was that Lord Shiva and Lord Vishnu had a brief "encounter" and a child was born... that child was called Ayappan.

When Lord Vishnu returned to Vaikuntha, Ma Lakshmi begged Lord Vishnu to show Her His Mohini form...she kept up the begging for millennia...but Lord Vishnu just laughed and kept on changing the subject.

Goodnight.

[captainamerica]

Well, if that's working for YOU, great...So, why ask me these things when you are already so blindly indoctrinated, that you can't even go for a few hours without mentioning something from your $15,000 USD training program? The word "brainwashed" comes to mind.

Oh, I know, this is like spiritual Avon or Tupperware...

Now I shall go and listen to more Alan Watts...put it this way...and it's the easiest way to put it..my consciousness has totally blown out...So trying to put it back inside a box just so I can communicate with you is very difficult...We need to overcome that somehow.

I have a lot of scientific data about a fellow "channeler" named Dr. Elmer Gates ,some data about kundalini and how it leads to channleing ability and an optimized protocol to get these type of abilities given by the scientist Dr. James Hardt.

No no ,what I meant was that combining the above 3 methods can create a viable method that would allow anyone to have the ability to channel their Ishta deva...

And I believe that I can create that viable method with your and Shiv ji's help...

sorry if you don't like my proposal ...of the above...

[Shivani Devi]

No no ,what I meant was that combining the above 3 methods can create a viable method that would allow anyone to have the ability to channel their Ishta deva...

And I believe that I can create that viable method with your and Shiv ji's help...

sorry if you don't like my proposal ...of the above... Can't sleep...reruns of Dragonball-Z are playing in my head now, dammit.

I see...

Funny thing is that you keep avoiding all of my posts that answer your questions...and even the ones where I point that out...So why is that? Kindly explain yourself.

I'm still waiting to be acknowledged...My post about the Vishishtadvaita dissertation...My commentary on Shvetashvatara Upanishad, my post about using meditation and slowing thoughts to hear the voice of God and guides...no feedback on the Shiv Chalisa...no commentary on the Dakshinamurthy Stotram besides "I have read it"...I feel like I am effing talking to myself here.

I want to know right now if it is possible for you to even HAVE a thought of your own or not.

Maybe I'm giving you too much knowledge and overloading your brain into a full on short circuit...I tend to do that with people, because we haven't even scratched the surface of what I know yet...but if you need me to slow way down so you can get it, just kindly let me know.

[captainamerica]

Can't sleep...reruns of Dragonball-Z are playing in my head now, dammit.

I see...

Funny thing is that you keep avoiding all of my posts that answer your questions...and even the ones where I point that out...So why is that?

I'm still waiting to be acknowledged...My post about Vishishtadvaita...My commentary on Shvetashvatara Upanishad, my post about meditation and slowing thoughts to hear the voice of God and guides...no feedback on the Shiv Chalisa...no commentary on the Dakshinamurthy Stotram besides "I have read it"...I feel like I am effing talking to myself here.

I want to know right now if it is possible for you to even HAVE a thought of your own or not.

Maybe I'm giving you too much knowledge and overloading your brain into a full on short circuit...I tend to do that with people, because we haven't even scratched the surface of it yet...but if you need me to slow way down so you can get it, just kindly let me know.

No ,I am thankful for your knowledge actually.
I was gonna go through the whole thread again tomorrow for the same purpose of responding to all of your messages and understanding them properly ...

Sorry I can't go through the whole thread again today because I really really have to study now.Thank you for your understanding and help .

[Shivani Devi]

No ,I am thankful for your knowledge actually.
I was gonna go through the whole thread again tomorrow for the same purpose of responding to all of your messages and understanding them properly ...

Sorry I can't go through the whole thread again today because I really really have to study now.Thank you for your understanding and help .
Cool.
How about we let this go for three days?
You can study and keep re reading this thread at your leisure and respond to me when you have time.
I will read the 14 step Forgiveness program (that I have already downloaded) during that time, and we will meet back here on Saturday.
I realise it is a lot to take in at once and in future, to ungrumpy me, all you need to do is to post a nice picture or bhajan of Shiv-ji, and I totally back off.
I only wish you could feel what I do for Him, ya know?
Cya later.

[captainamerica]

Thank you for your kind understanding .

I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

:smile:

[captainamerica]

I really liked this one: I bookmarked it !
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=shiv+ji+picture&rlz=1C1HLDY_enIN780IN780&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiy7-a9jIjbAhXJYo8KHZRAB6wQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=662#imgrc=_jnie2Eg_CSARM:

[captainamerica]

I really liked this drum solo :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jzWk00x51A

It shows how dedicated one can be ...

I'll get back to you as soon as possible .Thank you for understanding.

[Shivani Devi]

I really liked this drum solo :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jzWk00x51A

It shows how dedicated one can be ...

I'll get back to you as soon as possible .Thank you for understanding. That drum solo is very nice. I like it.

My favourites are...Sharp Dressed Man by ZZ Top

https://youtu.be/ItZyaOlrb7E

Also, Panic Attack by Dream Theatre..

https://youtu.be/pbraa_AyNpE

When I watch Mike Portnoy drum, I am like "not worthy"

[Shivani Devi]

I really liked this one: I bookmarked it !
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=shiv+ji+picture&rlz=1C1HLDY_enIN780IN780&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiy7-a9jIjbAhXJYo8KHZRAB6wQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=662#imgrc=_jnie2Eg_CSARM:
I also like these pictures, especially this one..
https://goo.gl/images/Q4HCho

This is more my style
https://www.google.com.au/search?tbm=isch&q=lord+shiva+deviantart+instagram&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjdjNKKlIjbAhWMWLwKHeGHAmsQBQhLKAA&biw=640&bih=280&dpr=2

Especially this one, which is my favorite picture of Shiv-ji
https://goo.gl/images/QSgHff

[captainamerica]

https://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Forigina ls%2F1b%2F32%2F4b%2F1b324bf1675307f714798eea902630 73.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fpin% 2F307652218287123336%2F&docid=0cTQkBG8gYCQaM&tbnid=HoGYMoCOCowNsM%3A&vet=1&w=1211&h=1228&itg=1&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim

Wow .I am speechless.

[Shivani Devi]

...and now, for my favorite Devon ke Dev Mahadev moment..
https://youtu.be/jSRBEPzci-o

[Shivani Devi]

https://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Forigina ls%2F1b%2F32%2F4b%2F1b324bf1675307f714798eea902630 73.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fpin% 2F307652218287123336%2F&docid=0cTQkBG8gYCQaM&tbnid=HoGYMoCOCowNsM%3A&vet=1&w=1211&h=1228&itg=1&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim

Wow .I am speechless.
I know, right? It's breathtaking.

[captainamerica]

...and now, for my favorite Devon ke Dev Mahadev moment..
https://youtu.be/jSRBEPzci-o

Thanks for sharing .I've been looking for a while to get the above video.
:smile:

[Shivani Devi]

That's cool you have got it now.

Anyway, time for me to hit the hay.. goodnight.

[captainamerica]

Found this online ,thought you will like it...

नमामीशमीशान निर्वाणरूपं
विभुं व्यापकं ब्रह्मवेदस्वरूपम् ।
निजं निर्गुणं निर्विकल्पं निरीहं
चिदाकाशमाकाशवासं भजेऽहम् ॥१॥
Namaam-Iisham-Iishaana Nirvaanna-Ruupam
Vibhum Vyaapakam Brahma-Veda-Svaruupam |
Nijam Nirgunnam Nirvikalpam Niriiham
Cidaakaasham-Aakaasha-Vaasam Bhaje-[A]ham ||1||

Meaning:
1.1: (Salutations to Sri Rudra) I Salute the Lord Ishana(another name of Sri Shiva) whose Form represents the state of the highest Nirvana (extinction of all desires and passions leading to the highest bliss),
1.2: Who Manifests taking a Form though in essence He is Pervading everywhere; and His Form embodies the Highest Knowledge of Brahman present in the core of the Vedas.
1.3: Who remain absorbed in His Own Self which is Beyondthe three Gunas (Sattva, Rajas and Tamas), which is Beyond any Vikalpas (Change and Manifoldness), and which is Free from any Movement (due to desires etc),
1.4: Who Abides in the Sky of the Chidakasha (Spiritual Sky); I Worship that Ishana.






निराकारमोङ्करमूलं तुरीयं
गिराज्ञानगोतीतमीशं गिरीशम् ।
करालं महाकालकालं कृपालं
गुणागारसंसारपारं नतोऽहम् ॥२॥
Niraakaaram-Ongkara-Muulam Turiiyam
Giraa-Jnyaana-Go-[A]tiitam-Iisham Giriisham |
Karaalam Mahaakaala-Kaalam Krpaalam
Gunna-[A]agaara-Samsaara-Paaram Nato-[A]ham ||2||

Meaning:
2.1: (Salutations to Sri Rudra) Who is Formless and the very Root from where the Sacred Omkara arises; Who Abides in the state of Turiya (the fourth state in which Brahman is experienced in meditation)
2.2: He is the Lord Who is Beyond the Knowledge which Speech can express and Beyond the Perception which Sense Organs can perceive; He is Girisha (another name of Sri Shiva literally meaning the Lord of the Mountains)
2.3: Taking the Terrible form of Mahakala He can tear apart Kala (Time) himself; at the same time He is an embodiment of Compassion to His devotees,
2.4: I Bow down to Him Who helps in Crossing this Samsara (delusion of worldly existence) which is like a Dwelling Place made of Gunas.






तुषाराद्रिसंकाशगौरं गभिरं
मनोभूतकोटिप्रभाश्री शरीरम् ।
स्फुरन्मौलिकल्लोलिनी चारुगङ्गा
लसद्भालबालेन्दु कण्ठे भुजङ्गा ॥३॥
Tussaara-Adri-Samkaasha-Gauram Gabhiram
Mano-Bhuuta-Kotti-Prabhaa-Shrii Shariiram |
Sphuran-Mauli-Kallolinii Caaru-Ganggaa
Lasad-Bhaala-Baale[a-I]ndu Kanntthe Bhujanggaa ||3||

Meaning:
3.1: (Salutations to Sri Rudra) Who is Shining White Resembling a Mountain of Snow; and His Being is very very Deep, ...
3.2 ... in the depth of Whose Mind exist Millions of Rays of Splendour, which expresses themselves on His Auspicious Body,
3.3: Over Whose Head, the Beautiful Ganga Throbs and Surges forth towards the Worlds,
3.4: Over Whose Forehead the Newly Risen Moon Shinesspreading its Rays, and around Whose Neck adorns the beautiful Serpents.






चलत्कुण्डलं भ्रूसुनेत्रं विशालं
प्रसन्नाननं नीलकण्ठं दयालम् ।
मृगाधीशचर्माम्बरं मुण्डमालं
प्रियं शङ्करं सर्वनाथं भजामि ॥४॥
Calat-Kunnddalam Bhruu-Sunetram Vishaalam
Prasanna-[A]ananam Niila-Kannttham Dayaalam |
Mrga-Adhiisha-Carma-Ambaram Munndda-Maalam
Priyam Shangkaram Sarva-Naatham Bhajaami ||4||

Meaning:
4.1: (Salutations to Sri Rudra) Whose Ear-Rings Sway near His beautiful face, which is adorned with a striking Eyebrowand Large Beautiful Eyes,
4.2: Whose Face is beaming with Joy and Grace, Whose Throat is Blue (due to drinking the poison during samudra manthana) and Who is extremely Compassionate,
4.3: Whose Clothes are the Skin of the Lord of Animals(signifying Tiger) and Whose neck is adorned with a Garland of Skulls,
4.4: I Worship Him Who is Beloved of His Devotees, Who is Shankara (another name of Sri Shiva) and Who is the Lordof All.






प्रचण्डं प्रकृष्टं प्रगल्भं परेशं
अखण्डं अजं भानुकोटिप्रकाशं ।
त्र्यःशूलनिर्मूलनं शूलपाणिं
भजेऽहं भवानीपतिं भावगम्यम् ॥५॥
Pracannddam Prakrssttam Pragalbham Pare[a-Ii]sham
Akhannddam Ajam Bhaanu-Kotti-Prakaasham |
Tryah-Shuula-Nirmuulanam Shuula-Paannim
Bhaje[a-A]ham Bhavaanii-Patim Bhaava-Gamyam ||5||

Meaning:
5.1: (Salutations to Sri Rudra) Who is Terrible, Eminent and extremely Strong; Who is the Highest Lord,
5.2: Who is ever Unborn and Whole; and with the Effulgence of Million Suns,
5.3: Who has a Trident in Hand, the Three Spikes of which Uproots the bondages of the Three Gunas (Tamas, Rajas and Sattva),
5.4: I Worship the Consort of Devi Bhavani Who can be Attained only by Devotion.






कलातीतकल्याण कल्पान्तकारी
सदा सज्जनानन्ददाता पुरारी ।
चिदानन्दसंदोह मोहापहारी
प्रसीद प्रसीद प्रभो मन्मथारी ॥६॥
Kalaatiita-Kalyaanna Kalpa-Anta-Kaarii
Sadaa Sajjana-[A]ananda-Daataa Pura-Arii |
Cid-Aananda-Samdoha Moha-Apahaarii
Prasiida Prasiida Prabho Manmatha-Arii ||6||

Meaning:
6.1: (Salutations to Sri Rudra) Whose Auspicious Nature is Beyond the Elements of the gross material world and Who Brings an End to a Kalpa (a cycle of creation when all gross elements are dissolved),
6.2: Who Always Give Great Joy to the Wise Men and Who is the Enemy (signifying Destroyer) of the Tripurasuras(who represents Adharma),
6.3: By Taking Away the Great Delusion, He plunges the prepared Soul in the Fullness of Cidananda (the Bliss of Brahman or Pure Consciousness),
6.4: O, the Enemy (signifying Destroyer) of Manmatha; Please be Gracious to me; Please be Gracious to me, O Lord.






न यावद् उमानाथपादारविन्दं
भजन्तीह लोके परे वा नराणाम् ।
न तावत्सुखं शान्ति सन्तापनाशं
प्रसीद प्रभो सर्वभूताधिवासं ॥७॥
Na Yaavad Umaa-Naatha-Paada-Aravindam
Bhajanti-Iha Loke Pare Vaa Naraannaam |
Na Taavat-Sukham Shaanti Santaapa-Naasham
Prasiida Prabho Sarva-Bhuuta-Adhi-Vaasam ||7||

Meaning:
7.1: (Salutations to Sri Rudra) As Long as the Lotus Feet of the Lord of Uma ...
7.2: ... is not Worshipped in This World or Later by the Human Beings, ...
7.3: ... So Long (i.e. Till then) Joy, Peace and End of Sorrows will not be experienced in life.
7.4: Therefore O Lord, Please be Gracious, You Who Residewithin All Beings.






न जानामि योगं जपं नैव पूजां
नतोऽहं सदा सर्वदा शम्भुतुभ्यम् ।
जराजन्मदुःखौघ तातप्यमानं
प्रभो पाहि आपन्नमामीश शंभो ॥८॥
Na Jaanaami Yogam Japam Naiva Puujaam
Natoham Sadaa Sarvadaa Shambhu-Tubhyam |
Jaraa-Janma-Duhkhau-[A]gha Taatapyamaanam
Prabho Paahi Aapanna-Maam-Iisha Shambho ||8||

Meaning:
8.1: (Salutations to Sri Rudra) I do Not Know how to perform Yoga, Japa or Puja.
8.2: I Always at All Times only Bow down to You, O Shambhu (another name of Sri Shiva),
8.3: Please Protect me from the Sorrows of Birth and Old Age, as well as from the Sins which lead to Sufferings,
8.4: Please Protect me O Lord from Afflictions; Protect me O My Lord Shambhu.






रुद्राष्टकमिदं प्रोक्तं विप्रेण हरतोषये
ये पठन्ति नरा भक्त्या तेषां शम्भुः प्रसीदति ॥९॥
Rudraassttaka-Idam Proktam Viprenna Hara-Tossaye
Ye Patthanti Naraa Bhaktyaa Tessaam Shambhuh Prasiidati ||9||

Meaning:
9.1: This Rudrashtaka (eight verses in praise of Rudra) has been Said (i.e. Composed) by the Wise for Pleasing Hara(another name of Sri Shiva),
9.2: Those Persons who Recite this with Devotion, with them Sri Shambhu will be always Pleased.

इति श्रीगोस्वामितुलसीदासकृतं श्रीरुद्राष्टकं सम्पूर्णम्।
Iti Shrii-Gosvaami-Tulasiidaasa-Krtam Shriirudraassttakam Sampuurnnam |
Thus ends Rudrashtakam composed by Sri Goswami Tulsidas.

[Shivani Devi]

Thank you for posting that...I love Rudrashtakam, and it was the only Ashtakam to be composed by Goswami Tulsidas...all the rest were composed by Adi Shankaracharya.

I would like to illustrate something to you right now, and why I get frustrated....ready?

Had you read the thread and/or my posts, you would have come across this one:
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1745782&postcount=37

Now, in that post, I said that I have learned Rudrashtakam off by heart...so I already am very familiar with it...I chant it every day.

It seems as though you are feeling Shiva inside a lot more though...

I personally like Kalabhairavashtakam...and especially this version of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa08VbK5V4

I've only half learned that one...but another one I know off by heart is the Shiva Panchakshara Stotram:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbOvhJOQdto

Have you ever heard of Radio Mirchi - Devraag? Aap ke Bhakti, Aap Ke Shakti? I usually have that playing in the background at all times:
https://gaana.com/radio/mirchiplay-mirchi-devraag

Oh...I am back on my laptop...YAY!

कर्पूरगौरं करुणावतारं
संसारसारम् भुजगेन्द्रहारम् ।
सदावसन्तं हृदयारविन्दे
भवं भवानीसहितं नमामि ॥

Karpuura-Gauram Karunna-Avataaram
Samsaara-Saaram Bhujage[a-I]ndra-Haaram |
Sadaa-Vasantam Hrdaya-Aravinde
Bhavam Bhavaanii-Sahitam Namaami ||

Meaning:
1: Pure White like Camphor, an Incarnation of Compassion,
2: The Essence of Worldly Existence, Whose Garland is the King of Serpents,
3: Always Dwelling inside the Lotus of the Heart.
4: I Bow to Shiva and Shakti Together.

[captainamerica]

I would like to illustrate something to you right now, and why I get frustrated....ready?

Had you read the thread and/or my posts, you would have come across this one:
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1745782&postcount=37


Actually these days I have a very short attention and concentration span(almost 0) plus my mother reminds me constantly that after the depression hit me I am very,very forgetful these days ... Might explain why I get you frustrated ...I need to go through a thing 2-3 times before I can start storing it in my long term memory.

[Shivani Devi]

Actually these days I have a very short attention and concentration span(almost 0) plus my mother reminds me constantly that after the depression hit me I am very,very forgetful these days ... Might explain why I get you frustrated ...I need to go through a thing 2-3 times before I can start storing it in my long term memory.
Fair enough.

So, what about the rest of that post then? did you listen to kailabhairavashtakam? Have you heard about Radio Devraag?

[captainamerica]

Fair enough.

So, what about the rest of that post then? did you listen to kailabhairavashtakam? Have you heard about Radio Devraag?

I will go through the post again ...

I have read and listened to Kalabhairavaashtakam .Not heard about Radio Devraag ,what is it ?

Depression takes away every mental power you have including a proper memory and the ability to concentrate more than 3-5 min...

You know a lot of things ,I have read some of the books you recommended to me (Like "feel the fear and do it any way ") but could not afford to buy all the book you recommended to me,can you recommend any book for curing depression (I am currently following "5 minute miracle" for this purpose).

I can't even focus my attention properly on anything...it sucks...you'd have to see it to believe it ...

[Shivani Devi]

Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

Radio Devraaag is an online Hindi/Sanskrit devotional radio station. If you would have clicked on that link I provided and pressed "play" you would have heard it....and you honestly need some BRAHMI, my friend...for your memory...Ginko Biloba is good as well...I have a photographic memory and an eidetic memory...so I need to be patient with you.

There is also a very good doctor (she is dead now) called Dr. Claire Weekes...and here is some Youtube stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REOdAWCv-BQ

I could give more, but just start here for now.

[captainamerica]

Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

Radio Devraaag is an online Hindi/Sanskrit devotional radio station. If you would have clicked on that link I provided and pressed "play" you would have heard it....and you honestly need some BRAHMI, my friend...for your memory...Ginko Biloba is good as well...I have a photographic memory and an eidetic memory...so I need to be patient with you.

There is also a very good doctor (she is dead now) called Dr. Claire Weekes...and here is some Youtube stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REOdAWCv-BQ

I could give more, but just start here for now.


I'd ask my father to buy me Brahmi and Ginko Biloba.But Ginko Biloba seems to be a bit costly ,but I'll ask anyway.

I am checking the youtube link you provided ...

[captainamerica]

Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

Radio Devraaag is an online Hindi/Sanskrit devotional radio station. If you would have clicked on that link I provided and pressed "play" you would have heard it....and you honestly need some BRAHMI, my friend...for your memory...Ginko Biloba is good as well...I have a photographic memory and an eidetic memory...so I need to be patient with you.

There is also a very good doctor (she is dead now) called Dr. Claire Weekes...and here is some Youtube stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REOdAWCv-BQ

I could give more, but just start here for now.

I will try the radio you mentioned ,but I am not much into radio stations..

[Shivani Devi]

Thank you for replying to me. Check out Claire Weekes, and see if you can get some Brahmi, Ashwaghanda and Shankhapushpi, if Ginko Biloba is expensive. Shilajit is good too.

If you are not into radio stations, thats okay...I just have it on in the background for noise...

[captainamerica]

Thank you for replying to me. Check out Claire Weekes, and see if you can get some Brahmi, Ashwaghanda and Shankhapushpi, if Ginko Biloba is expensive. Shilajit is good too.


I'll check those out and see which of those I can afford ...
:smile:

[Shivani Devi]

Attention is like a muscle...if you don't keep using it, you will lose it.

You asked how I attained Samadhi before...well, surrendering my heart to Shiva was one aspect of it...there were other things involved.

The main way that I practice meditation, is through a technique called trataka or fixed gazing...I find it difficult to meditate with my eyes closed.

Light a candle or diya and just gaze at the flame. If your mind wanders, bring your focus back to the candle flame...it takes practice.

You can do the same with a picture of your Ishta Devata or your own eyes in the mirror.

I wrote an article about it in the meditation section once.

[captainamerica]

Attention is like a muscle...if you don't keep using it, you will lose it.

You asked how I attained Samadhi before...well, surrendering my heart to Shiva was one aspect of it...there were other things involved.

The main way that I practice meditation, is through a technique called trataka or fixed gazing...I find it difficult to meditate with my eyes closed.

Light a candle or diya and just gaze at the flame. If your mind wanders, bring your focus back to the candle flame...it takes practice.

You can do the same with a picture of your Ishta Devata or your own eyes in the mirror.

I wrote an article about it in the meditation section once.

Thank you for letting me know ,I will do the exercise for 15 min. daily .
I believe it is called jyoti meditation and sathya sai baba gave it.

[captainamerica]

Shivani Devi ji,

I will go offline for 2-3 weeks after I go through this thread again,to better understand your messages and respond to them ,today.

I had an advanced meditation related question that I wanted to ask from Shiv ji.Should I ask that question before I go offline ? I mean would it be possible for you to ask that question from Shiv ji ,in that time of 2-3 weeks?

It is simple question (simple for Shiv ji !).

If not possible ,then no worries.Just asking politely.

[Shivani Devi]

Shivani Devi ji,

I will go offline for 2-3 weeks after I go through this thread again,to better understand your messages and respond to them ,today.

I had an advanced meditation related question that I wanted to ask from Shiv ji.Should I ask that question before I go offline ? I mean would it be possible for you to ask that question from Shiv ji ,in that time of 2-3 weeks?

It is simple question (simple for Shiv ji !).

If not possible ,then no worries.Just asking politely.Yes, I am thinking of taking a break from this thread for a while too...I have a lot of things to do. I just scored a pile of New Age books and DVDs from a library sale...about 50 all up...it's going to take a while...I'm starting with some Wayne Dyer and Sonia Choquette...then there's Chicken Soup For the Soul and the sequels to the Celestine Prophecy...but ask your question (as long as it does not require a specific answer) and if it's a repeat of a question you have asked previously when you know the 'rules' now, don't be surprised if I don't return to this thread anymore.

Have a nice 2-3 weeks off and study hard. :hug3:

[captainamerica]

I suppose the question is right but ,If it is not then please don't be angry ...
just let me know and "I'll take back the question" politely.

I know that you don't like biocybernaut or the 15,000$ training but I will just mention it here because it is required in the question ,no offence intended.

When I asked Shiv ji about the Biocybernaut 15000$ Alpha training Shiv ji gave me the lovely suggestion saying "why don't you go straight for turiya ?"

I am sure turiya is way better than biocybernaut alpha 15000 $ training.
Scientists claim that Biocybernaut Alpha one training gives a person 40 years worth of zen meditation in a week.

My question to Shiv ji is how many times more efficient is turiya as compared to Biocybernaut one week alpha (which is 40 years of zen in a week ) ? (I know turiya is better than Biocybernaut Alpha ...but how much ...2 times better ,5 times better ,10 times better... how much ? )

The reason I am asking this question is ,if Shiv ji answers it ,I will know the number of hours of turiya I need to give every day in a week to replicate the same 40 years of zen experience in a week.

Please let me know if I asked a question I shouldn't have asked.I apologize in advanced if that is the case.

[Shivani Devi]

I suppose the question is right but ,If it is not then please don't be angry ...
just let me know and "I'll take back the question" politely.

I know that you don't like biocybernaut or the 15,000$ training but I will just mention it here because it is required in the question ,no offence intended.

When I asked Shiv ji about the Biocybernaut 15000$ Alpha training Shiv ji gave me the lovely suggestion saying "why don't you go straight for turiya ?"

I am sure turiya is way better than biocybernaut alpha 15000 $ training.
Scientists claim that Biocybernaut Alpha one training gives a person 40 years worth of zen meditation in a week.

My question to Shiv ji is how many times more efficient is turiya as compared to Biocybernaut one week alpha (which is 40 years of zen in a week ) ? (I know turiya is better than Biocybernaut Alpha ...but how much ...2 times better ,5 times better ,10 times better... how much ? )

The reason I am asking this question is ,if Shiv ji answers it ,I will know the number of hours of turiya I need to give every day in a week to replicate the same 40 years of zen experience in a week.

Please let me know if I asked a question I shouldn't have asked.I apologize in advanced if that is the case.That question is forbidden as per my rules which you agreed to follow.

You really DO have the attention span of a gnat and do not care about how I feel, do you? (or you would not have even ASKED it).

Good luck with your Biocybernaut thingy, but you'll never indoctrinate me...I am not the type who CAN be.

If it's SO good, why not use that to cure your own depression...and your psychosis...and your inability to think about anything else BUT that?

Because now, I am going to take Shiv-jis advice and there will be no more worming your way around it.

[captainamerica]

That question is forbidden as per my rules which you agreed to follow.

You really DO have the attention span of a gnat and do not care about how I feel, do you? (or you would not have even ASKED it).

Good luck with your Biocybernaut thingy, but you'll never indoctrinate me...I am not the type who CAN be.

If it's SO good, why not use that to cure your own depression...and your psychosis...and your inability to think about anything else BUT that?

Because now, I am going to take Shiv-jis advice and there will be no more worming your way around it.

I thought it was the right question because Shiv ji suggested me Turiya...

C'mon don't be angry please ,I just asked it bescause Shiv ji suggested it to me and I don't know any thing about turiya ...In fact I thought by following Shiv ji's advice I was respecting his advice ...

I don't understand what made you angry in the above question ...? I really don't.

[captainamerica]

I cannot afford to go to Biocybernaut... ever ...
But if you would be a little more compassionate I think that I would not need to because then Shiv ji will tell me how to get into turiya at home itself ...
I don't understand why this makes you angry or why this breaks the rules ...
I really don't ...I am sorry ...

[Shivani Devi]

I thought it was the right question because Shiv ji suggested me Turiya...

C'mon don't be angry please ,I just asked it bescause Shiv ji suggested it to me and I don't know any thing about turiya ...In fact I thought by following Shiv ji's advice I was respecting his advice ...

I don't understand what made you angry in the above question ...? I really don't.I only wish I could make you get it *sigh*

If you wanted to know, why didn't you just ask; "could you please ask Shiv-ji to explain the Turiya state to me?" FULL STOP!

This Biocybernaut thing seems of upmost importance and paramount fixation to you that you feel the need to compare everything TO it, as if it were a benchmark by which everything else is judged...according to YOU.

You really needed to drop that for a while, so I could teach you more because what I have said in this thread already could lead another to the door of Moksha...understand?

However, that person cannot be you, because you only have a 3 minute attention span, so if Shiv-ji made me type any more than two or three sentences, it would just fly over your head like a jumbo jet...and yet, you ask for a 10-15 page dissertation. HAH!

Fact is, my dear that Shiv-ji could tell you, but judging by your replies in this thread...your mental illness would prevent you from being able to understand it, so what do I do?

[Shivani Devi]

As for me being 'compassionate'...I would not even know the meaning of the word, but I TRY to be understanding and tolerant...as far as my own sanity allows me to take it.

[captainamerica]

Look ,Here is what I planned ,I hope you will understand why I asked that question by seeing my plan.

Non-attachment leads to moksha (I think...)
Monks check meditation and non-attachment in 21-40 years cycle.
Biocybernaut gives that progress in 1 week.
I will not be able to afford to go to biocybernaut in this lifetime.

Monk relate to zen.
Turiya relates to yoga
Yoga is more efficient than zen.
Plus Shiv ji themselves suggested turiya so turiya is better than
Biocybernaut Alpha.

If I know by how much is it better ,I will know by how much yoga+turiya zen plus that 40 year attainment of meditation and non-attachment ,then I would divide my time every week ,every day accordingly and sit in turiya according to the time table I just created ...and if every thing goes well every week I would move forward in the ladder of non-attachment.

Now tell me how were my intentions wrong ?
Can you tell from the above that i intended to hurt you ? No,right ...

[captainamerica]

Its not your fault but you literally gave me a heart attack .The only reason I asked that question was so that I can make a time table for how many hours I need to sit every day in turiya.

[Shivani Devi]

Look ,Here is what I planned ,I hope you will understand why I asked that question by seeing my plan.

Non-attachment leads to moksha (I think...)
Monks check meditation and non-attachment in 21-40 years cycle.
Biocybernaut gives that progress in 1 week.
I will not be able to afford to go to biocybernaut in this lifetime.

Monk relate to zen.
Turiya relates to yoga
Yoga is more efficient than zen.
Plus Shiv ji themselves suggested turiya so turiya is better than
Biocybernaut Alpha.

If I know by how much is it better ,I will know by how much yoga+turiya zen plus that 40 year attainment of meditation and non-attachment ,then I would divide my time every week ,every day accordingly and sit in turiy according to the time table I just created ...

Now tell me how were my intentions wrong ?
Can you tell from the above that i intended to hurt you ? No,right ...Would you like me to tell you how your intentions are wrong?

Yes, non-attachment leads to Moksha...and I was trying to get you 'non attached' from the Biocybernaut training program, but you're too attached to it that I cannot. You are like a horse with blinkers on, my friend.

Non-attachment is 'across the board'! it does not discriminate. You don't get to say that I will attain Moksha MY way or NO way.

You see what I said before? I was attached to Shiv-ji...He was my ONLY attachment! but I had to even give up THAT to get any further...and now, I can love Shiva WITHOUT being attached to Him...that's the difference...but that only comes AFTER the fact.

Like I said, if you have REALLY understood whatever I have written, you would not even need to ASK...and yet...you still do.

By the way, I am not angry or hurt...I am just putting my foot firmly down and saying that enough is enough because your receptivity is about as limited as your attention span is.

[captainamerica]

Why are you judging my good intents ?
I understand if you don't want to go to biocybernaut.
I understand if you don't want to help me.

But I don't understand is how can my above question hurt you ???
If it does then I am sorry ...

[captainamerica]

I can also ask the same question without including Biocybernaut's name in it.
I am not attached to biocybernaut ,I wanted to create an alternate of an awesome technology with your help so that people like you and me can afford good meditation training ... not every one has Shiv ji as his/her guru .people's lives will be a lot better if they can be able to afford this meditation training...

How is my intent wrong ?
What wrong did i do ?

[Shivani Devi]

Why are you judging my good intents ?
I understand if you don't want to go to biocybernaut.
I understand if you don't want to help me.

But I don't understand is how can my above question hurt you ???
If it does then I am sorry ...It is because you cannot even obey a simple instruction.

Yesterday, I asked you NOT to mention the Biocybernaut Training Program, and that was irrespective of me wanting to do it or NOT...I asked you not to mention it because that would be the decider on whether I would continue helping you or not...and today you DID...you disobeyed me...but you will say "oh, I am so sorry...I totally forgot...I have no memory at all...I didn't mean to hurt you" and that will be the excuse, the cop-out for you to disobey me again...and again...and again...and meanwhile, Shiv-ji is saying that He refuses to answer ANY of your questions because you are not ready to receive the answers and probably never will be, because of your severe mental illness which needs to be treated by professionals.

[captainamerica]

It is because you cannot even obey a simple instruction.

Yesterday, I asked you NOT to mention the Biocybernaut Training Program, and that was irrespective of me wanting to do it or NOT...I asked you not to mention it because that would be the decider on whether I would continue helping you or not...and today you DID...you disobeyed me...but you will say "oh, I am so sorry...I totally forgot...I have no memory...I didn't mean to hurt you" and that will be the excuse, the cop-out for you to disobey me again...and again...and again...and meanwhile, Shiv-ji is saying that He refuses to answer ANY of your questions because you are not ready to receive the answers and probably never will be, because of your severe mental illness which needs to be treated by professionals.

I thought that the rule was because you did not wanted to go to biocybernaut...So I did not mention that "you go to biocybernaut "...I just used it as a benchmark ... nothing wrong with a bench marking system I guess ...how can a benchmark hurt anyone ...I thought

I can write the question without Biocybernaut's name but that would be without a benchmark and I will repeat it here again ...The only reason I asked that question was so that I can make a time table for how many hours I need to sit every day in turiya ...

As for it being a decider ... you did not mention this before so how am I supposed to know ?

[Shivani Devi]

Anyway, I am going off for a couple of weeks just like you said you were going to do.

I may pop my nose into the Hindu forum now and then, so if you need me, I will be there, praising God.

Take care of yourself.

[captainamerica]

would it be possible for you to answer my question if I did not include Biocybernaut in the question ?

[Shivani Devi]

As for it being a decider ... you did not mention this before so how am I supposed to know ?

If you agree to this, I do not want to hear another word about Babaji, Tara, the Forgiveness program, your search for a Guru, or get me to ask Shiva anything, because He will come through me WITHOUT the asking.

Also, when I am pushed, I will run far, far away and you won't see me for dust.

I'm trying to bypass your mind here to reach your heart...when you read what I type, you need to look BEYOND the words...when I asked you to re-read the thread, I did not mean from the perspective of " I WANT" ..." I WANT" ...."I WANT and I WANT it NOW". I was trying to get you to see those things I've started teaching you already...and obviously failing to do so. Get it?

I never thought I would ever meet anybody beyond help or all hope...until now. :icon_frown:

[captainamerica]

If you agree to this, I do not want to hear another word about Babaji, Tara, the Forgiveness program, your search for a Guru, or get me to ask Shiva anything, because He will come through me WITHOUT the asking.

Also, when I am pushed, I will run far, far away and you won't see me for dust.

I'm trying to bypass your mind here to reach your heart...when you read what I type, you need to look BEYOND the words...when I asked you to re-read the thread, I did not mean from the perspective of " I WANT" ..." I WANT" ...."I WANT and I WANT it NOW". I was trying to get you to see those things I've started teaching you already...and obviously failing to do so. Get it?

I never thought I would ever meet anybody beyond help or all hope...until now. :icon_frown:

But common sense said to me that you were talking about the forgiveness program that I was gonna give you ..I did not think that you were talking about biocybernaut

Tell me this ,Would you have answered the same question If I did not include biocybernaut in the question ?

Also I spend most of the time half-unconscious because of my issues ...so my commonsense would have made the mistake as it makes now and then...

[Shivani Devi]

Also I spend most of the time half-unconscious because of my issues ...so my commonsense would have made the mistake. Then for f*** sake, instead of getting a loan from your father to go to Bhadrinath, use the money to get a bed in a psych ward, where those nice doctors in their white coats will look after you.

Now, if you will excuse me, I have just scored a DVD about the Life of Buddha that I am about to watch...maybe I will learn some compassion from watching it...but that still won't mean that I'll be able to help you, because I need a student and a book co-author with very good memory.

[captainamerica]

Then for f*** sake, instead of getting a loan from your father to go to Bhadrinath, use the money to get a bed in a psych ward, where those nice doctors in their white coats will look after you.

Now, if you will excuse me, I have just scored a DVD about the Life of Buddha that I am about to watch...maybe I will learn some compassion from watching it...but that still won't mean that I'll be able to help you, because I need a student and a book co-author with very good memory.

I was doing what you said ...

Please calm down ?

Tell what wrong did I do by going through my case as explained above ...

[captainamerica]

We can talk later if you are busy ...
I understand ...

[Shivani Devi]

I was doing what you said ...

Please calm down ?

Tell what wrong did I do by going through my case as explained above ...
Okay then, lets play semantics...

You said, I did not mention Biocybernaut and only the "Forgiveness Program"...which, forgive me if I am wrong, but it's like comparing Dianetics with The Church of Scientology.

Now, let's play...

Okay, I did not mention Biocybernaut, but I assumed you would have understood what I meant...however I also asked you NOT to get me to ask Shiv-ji anything anymore, because if He wants you to know, He'll tell you...can you read that bit? can you SEE it? look again if you missed it the third time!

What was the first thing you did? asked me to ask Shiv-ji something. It would be better for you if you believed that I could not do this...then everything would have been better...well, better than they can be for one who still has not spoken about the book for the past 5 pages.

And would Shiv-Ji have answered if you did NOT include Biocybernaut? He says that is or Him to know and you not to find out. :wink:

[captainamerica]

Okay then, lets play semantics...
Okay, I did not mention Biocybernaut, but I assumed you would have understood what I meant...however I also asked you NOT to get me to ask Shiv-ji anything anymore, because if He wants you to know, He'll tell you...can you read that bit? can you SEE it? look again if you missed it the third time!



That is why I asked your permission before asking my question. :icon_frown:
And you said yes but with the rules,the rules I thought were without talking about forgiveness program ,tara,or babaji ...


And would Shiv-Ji have answered if you did NOT include Biocybernaut? He says that is or Him to know and you not to find out. :wink:

um...What ...? Sorry i do not understand...

[Shivani Devi]

That is why I asked your permission before asking my question. :icon_frown:
And you said yes but with the rules,the rules I thought were without talking about forgiveness program ,tara,or babaji ...



um...What ...? Sorry i do not understand...That is right. You do not understand. You haven't been able to understand anything all along, sadly.

The Biocybernaut Institute was founded in 1983 by Dr. James V. Hardt, BSc ...

Oh look, about the Forgiveness Program:

James V. Hardt serves as the President and founder of Biocybernaut Institute, Inc. He holds a ... measures of subjective states, depth interviews, and extensive coaching in forgiveness ...

Now, to me that looks like exactly the same thing...and you, my friend are just splitting hairs when I should have asked you not to mention James V. Hardt, his Institute, his programs, anybody associated or affiliated with either him or that Institute, any form of Babaji whatsoever, nothing by Tara Springett and nothing about your search for a guru or to provide the address or location of one, and not to get me to ask Shiv-ji anything ever again, and this includes asking me if it is 'okay to ask Shiv-ji' and this includes any reference to my association with that entity whatsoever in any way, shape or form and failing to do ANY of this WITHOUT any timeframe being involved (like you saying 'when will it be okay to do so?')...with absolute zero tolerance in all regards, would lead me to unsubscribing from this thread and hitherto placing you on my ignore list forever.

However, I didn't think I would need to spell it out that clearly for you.

[captainamerica]

That is right. You do not understand. You haven't been able to understand anything all along, sadly....



Oh look, about the Forgiveness Program:



Now, to me that looks like EXACTLY the same thing...and you, my friend are just splitting hairs when I SHOULD have asked you not to mention James V. Hardt, his institute, his programs, anybody associated or affiliated with either him or the Institute, any form of Babaji whatsoever, nothing by Tara Springett and nothing about your search for a guru or to provide the address or location of one, and not to get me to ask Shiv-ji anything ever again, and this includes asking me if it is 'okay to ask Shiv-ji' and this includes any reference to my association with that entity whatsoever in any way, shape or form and failing to do ANY of this WITHOUT any timeframe being involved (like you saying 'when will it be okay?')...with absolute Zero tolerance in all regards, would lead me to unsubscribing from this thread and hitherto placing you on my ignore list forever...

However, I didn't think I would need to spell it out that clearly for you.

Please calm down first !

I need a bit of Shiv ji's and your help ,I will not be mentioning about the rest of things ...,if you don't want to help me with your Shiv ji... like ever ... then please let me know ...

Or maybe we can talk later when you calm down .

[Shivani Devi]

Please calm down first !

I need a bit of Shiv ji's and your help ,I will not be mentioning about the rest of things ...,if you don't want to help me with your Shiv ji... like ever ... then please let me know ...
I am totally calm...this is me being brutally emphatic and yeah, I am sorry but I do not want to help you anymore, like ever.

I would if I could, but I can't and neither can Shiva...but we really tried our best, but you are too much of a challenge. I am sorry and I hope you find everything you are looking for and your life turns out well for you. May God bless you personally and not through another.

Aum Namah Shivaya.

[captainamerica]

Can you give me one last help with Shiv ji so that I can become a channeler of my Ishta Devta (Krishna ji/Vasudev ji )as well ?(Practically the same thing that you are blessing me with ...)
I can do it ... I just need some information that Shiv ji and you can give ...

I promise this would be the last help I would need from you ...Please help me ...

[Shivani Devi]

Please help me ...http://vandrevalafoundation.com/

[captainamerica]

http://vandrevalafoundation.com/

so you are mocking me...I thought you were my friend ...don't talk to me ever again now.. good bye forever .

[Shivani Devi]

so you are mocking me...I thought you were my friend ...don't talk to me ever again now.. good bye forever .
I am not mocking you and I AM your friend...I am doing this for YOU.

Why don't you reach out and get some help? There are people out there who are qualified to treat your problems (not me) and once you get better, you can fulfill all your spiritual dreams, but you can't achieve anything in your current state...if you are only semi conscious all the time, have no attention span or memory, people like these can help you...not talking to Krishna or Shiva...all that can come later, once you are well enough and strong enough...you need to be very strong inside to channel a Deity...trust me.

This was also not my idea, it came from way higher up...with the message that having a mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of...it's nothing to be stigmatised...you may find friends...people in a similar situation who understand what you are going through.

Yes, it hurts, doesn't it? but the truth always does...and hate me, go away, do whatever you like now...but I cannot let myself be co-dependent on your illness anymore and it's time to be strong, stand up...and these people can help you, so you can achieve whatever dreams you have, free from this curse that weighs you down all the time.

You are only 20 years old...and to me (who is old enough to be your grandmother), you are still a baby...a big baby eh behta?

So, although I am a friend, I also have 40 years on you (almost) and this is what is coming through now...so you can be a coward and run away, or take pro-active steps in your own mental wellbeing.

However, it's interesting to note how soon you flee when I am not meeting whatever needs you ask and do something else instead...make yourself ready and worthy of these teachings by making your mind fully able to accept them.

Shivani Out.

[captainamerica]

I am not mocking you and I AM your friend...I am doing this for YOU.

Why don't you reach out and get help? There are people out there that are qualified to treat your problems and once you get better, you can fulfill your spiritual dreams, but you can't achieve anything in your current state...if you are semi conscious, have no attention or memory, people like these can help you...not talking to Krishna or Shiva...all that can come later, once you are well enough and strong enough...you need to be very strong inside to channel a deity...trust me.

This was also not my idea, it came from higher up...with the message that having a mental illness is nothing to be ashamed about...it's nothing to be stigmatised...you may find friends...people in a similar situation who understand what you are going through.

Yes, it hurts, doesn't it? but the truth always does...and hate me, go away, do whatever you like now...but I cannot let myself be co-dependent on your illness anymore and it's time to be strong, stand up...and these people can help you, so you can achieve whatever dreams you have, free from this curse that weighs you down.

You are only 20 years old...and to me (who is old enough to be your grandmother), you are still a baby...a big baby eh behta?

So, although I am a friend, I also have 40 years on you (almost) and this is what is coming through now...so you can be a coward and run away, or take pro-active steps in your own mental wellbeing.

However, it's interesting to note how soon you flee when I am not meeting whatever needs you ask and do something else instead...make yourself ready and worthy of these teachings by making your mind able to accept them.

Shivani Out.

I do go to a doctor,she is giving me pills and is saying that the pills will soon make be better ...Another doctor that i am going to does the same...

Will you answer my questions from Shiv ji ,if you are my friend ,after I get rid of my mental problems in a few months or a couple of years ?

[Shivani Devi]

I do go to a doctor,she is giving me pills and is saying that the pills will soon make be better ...Another doctor that i am going to does the same...

Will you answer my questions from Shiv ji ,if you are my friend ,after I get rid of my mental problems in a few moths or a couple of years ?Yes, I promise. :hug3:

Even though the doctors are giving you pills (which can make you feel like s***, I know...and cause all those side effects you are experiencing), recovery means a LOT more than just taking your meds.

There is a whole recovery model attached that is based upon personal empowerment.

https://www.change4health.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Recovery-Process.jpg

This is where that organisation I linked above can help you out.

I also don't tell people this...I have studied welfare work (Community Services Cert 4) and I am a Dip Psych AND I have a mental illness...well a few of them actually but notably PTSD and Manic Depression...I am also on the Autism Spectrum.

Explains a lot, doesn't it now?

[captainamerica]

Yes, I promise. :hug3:

Even though the doctors are giving you pills (which can make you feel like s***, I know...and cause all those side effects you are experiencing), recovery means a LOT more than just taking your meds.

There is a whole recovery model attached that is based upon personal empowerment.

https://www.change4health.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Recovery-Process.jpg

This is where that organisation I linked above can help you out.

I also don't tell people this...I have studied welfare work (Community Services Cert 4) and I am a Dip Psych AND I have a mental illness...well a few of them actually but notably PTSD and Manic Depression...I am also on the Autism Spectrum.

Explains a lot, doesn't it now?

Thank you :hug2:

Please don't forget your promise as it might even take me 2 long years to recover completely...(oh,how can you ? you have photographic memory ;-P)

I will check out the recovery model...

Sorry about your mental problems... thanks for sharing and trusting me with the info...I wish you speedy recovery too...

Bye for now ...Will see you soon in few months to a couple of years if every thing goes well...

[captainamerica]

thought I should share this with you ,before I take a leave for a few months to a couple of years ...

If you love books on enlightenment and consciousness then you will love this :https://www.actualized.org/books

You have a lot of knowledge and awareness so you certainly won't be needing it but i thought I should share it with you before I part my ways ...

Have a great few months !(or years )

[Shivani Devi]

Thank you for those recommendations and take care of yourself until we meet again.

[Busby]

I just made a post below while you were typing that up which may go towards answering this..I will tell you how with instructions a bit later, as I need shower and food as well..and to finish watching a lecture..

I just heard a poem just now...It was beautiful.

There was a young man who said "God..
I find it exceedingly odd,
That a tree, as a tree,
Simply ceases to be,
When there no-one around in the quad"

The reply:

"Young man, your astonishment's odd,
I'm ALWAYS around in the quad,
So the tree, as a tree,
Never ceases to be,
Since observed by your's faithfully, God"


We don't know when consciousness entered the world in which we live but this 'missing until some moment' sure gives room for thought. The tree above I mean.

At the time of what we call the Big Bang it must have been tremendous as the whole universe came into being . What a noise! What heat! What fire! This explosion thundering into all the corners of what would become the universe.

But, and this must be true, there was nobody there to see it. Nobody to hear it. Nobody to feel it.(Except (maybe) God). So, presumably, as there was no observer it took place in darkness, in silence, and in the coldness of space.(-273Kelvin). The universe must have only became apparent when the first bit of say slime felt the radiation of a sun on its back. (For instance).
When we look up into the sky and see the interstellar gases forming new galaxies in the cosmos we shouldn't forget that they are there because consciousness observes.

[captainamerica]

Hi again Shivani Devi ji ,

I've started working on myself and I am not just depending on my pills to heal me now.

I had this chance encounter with a yogi recently.Somehow he knew about my mental issues (depression ,panic attacks etc.) and told me that in about 4 months or before I will heal completely.

Yay!

I need a little bit of your guidance Shivani Devi ji .

I had two dreams recently.One from my lord Krishna ji and other from the one you told me to not mention about further.

What should I do next Shivani Devi ji .I am worried.Do you think that I am hallucinating ?Do you think that " I am going mad/crazy" ?

Should I tell my doctor regarding this ? I am asking it to you first because if I tell it to the doctor the doctor won't even believe me ... What should I do now ?

[Shivani Devi]

Hi again Shivani Devi ji ,

I've started working on myself and I am not just depending on my pills to heal me now.

I had this chance encounter with a yogi recently.Somehow he knew about my mental issues (depression ,panic attacks etc.) and told me that in about 4 months or before I will heal completely.

Yay!

I need a little bit of your guidance Shivani Devi ji .

I had two dreams recently.One from my lord Krishna ji and other from the one you told me to not mention about further.

What should I do next Shivani Devi ji .I am worried.Do you think that I am hallucinating ?Do you think that " I am going mad/crazy" ?

Should I tell my doctor regarding this ? I am asking it to you first because if I tell it to the doctor the doctor won't even believe me ... What should I do now ?Are you going to see an ordinary General Practitioner or a Psychologist/Psychiatrist?

As simplistic as this may sound, don't 'do' anything besides whatever it is that you enjoy doing...like a hobby, going for walks etc and let time heal the wounds. It has only been a week since we last spoke and this is going to take more time than that...don't rush things.

You say you meditate, yet you cannot relax enough to do so...work on slowing down your breath...listen to soothing music...take warm showers and just TRY to relax and give your body and mind some kindness and some time.

Don't worry about when you'll be healed. Don't worry about trying to convince anybody about it or about how well you may be doing because it is still early days...and this is the best I have for you.

[captainamerica]

Are you going to see an ordinary General Practitioner or a Psychologist/Psychiatrist?



A psychologist/psychiatrist .
The best and charging the highest rates in my city.

[captainamerica]

Are you going to see an ordinary General Practitioner or a Psychologist/Psychiatrist?


Yes ,but the 2 go to are the best and most costliest in my city ...

[captainamerica]

Are you going to see an ordinary General Practitioner or a Psychologist/Psychiatrist?

A psychologist/psychiatrist .
The best and charging the highest rates in my city.

[kralaro]

I had this chance encounter with a yogi recently.Somehow he knew about my mental issues (depression ,panic attacks etc.) and told me that in about 4 months or before I will heal completely.If you took/have his contact detail then please do share with me.

If you've been frequently dreaming about Krishna then you can prepare questions for him. One of the questions can be to check is he really Krishna or just dream hallucination. Edit: Or can prepare a non-question request.

[captainamerica]

If you took/have his contact detail then please do share with me.

If you've been frequently dreaming about Krishna then you can prepare questions for him. One of the questions can be to check is he really Krishna or just dream hallucination. Edit: Or can prepare a non-question request.


Unfortunately I don't have his contact info.

I do not frequently dream about lord Krishna and have no control whatsoever on this ability.Once in a year or a couple of years or sometimes even 3 years he talks to me and gives me some knowledge or guidance as Krishna ji see it fit.

I am nowhere close to Shivani Devi ji in this regard and cannot get the valuable information that you are seeking,via this method.

[captainamerica]

If you took/have his contact detail then please do share with me.

If you've been frequently dreaming about Krishna then you can prepare questions for him. One of the questions can be to check is he really Krishna or just dream hallucination. Edit: Or can prepare a non-question request.

I have a lead in Badrinath.I will see whether or not it will work for me after I am healed completely.
Not 100% chance of success ,but still a lead nonetheless.
Should I give it to you ?
I'd love to share it with you, if it helps you in any way Kralaro.

Have a great day !

[captainamerica]

Are you going to see an ordinary General Practitioner or a Psychologist/Psychiatrist?

A psychologist/psychiatrist .
The best and charging the highest rates in my city.

And, I have started to practice breathing as you suggested in the above post but I cannot do only the things that I love because I have my exams soon :-)

Focusing on my breath now helps me relax.

Shivani Devi Ji,

Can you please help me interpret two of the dreams I recently had ?

I know its early and I am not healed completely yet but I am writing it here because the contents of the dream I had recently demand immediate attention and I believe they could not wait for months or years.

I had a dream about Krishna ji.
At the same time my mother also had the same dream that I had about Krishna ji and me ,so I believe it is not a hallucination or coincidence.

The other dream I had is about someone you told me not to mention about.But if you please relax that condition then I can tell you the contents of the dream so that maybe you can help someway in interpreting.This dream also demands immediate attention because of its contents.

I can type here both of the dreams I had if I have your permission.

If you don't think that this is the right time then okay I understand.

Can't get it of my mind because I am being anxious about it thinking that both of them are very important and urgent so
I thought maybe you can help.

[captainamerica]

Are you going to see an ordinary General Practitioner or a Psychologist/Psychiatrist?

A psychologist/psychiatrist .
The best and charging the highest rates in my city.

And, I have started to practice breathing as you suggested in the above post but I cannot do only the things that I love because I have my exams soon :-)

Focusing on my breath now helps me relax.

Shivani Devi Ji,

Can you please help me interpret two of the dreams I recently had ?

I know its early and I am not healed completely yet but I am writing it here because the contents of the dream I had recently demand immediate attention and I believe they could not wait for months or years.

I had a dream about Krishna ji.
At the same time my mother also had the same dream that I had about Krishna ji and me ,so I believe it is not a hallucination or coincidence.

The other dream I had is about someone you told me not to mention about.But if you please relax that condition then I can tell you the contents of the dream so that maybe you can help someway in interpreting.This dream also demands immediate attention because of its contents.

I can type here both of the dreams I had if I have your permission.

If you don't think that this is the right time then okay I understand.

Can't get it of my mind because I am being anxious about it thinking that both of them are very important and urgent so
I thought maybe you can help.

Edit :I and my mother both had the same dream in which Shri Krishna ji was talking about a purpose they want to help me with ,will let you know more about it if I have your permission.

And in the second dream the person whom you said not to mention about said something urgent and important as well,will let you know more about it if I have your permission.Actually I was chanting a mantra to invoke this person,so probably it is the outcome of the mantra or either I am hallucination due to a prior intense desire to meet this noble person.

[captainamerica]

One more request.

I suppose you remember that Shiv ji once told me that I am not pure enough and I need more purity.

Would it be possible for you to let me know what did Shiv ji meant by purity ?

Do I need to be more compassionate or more loving or more morally sound..or more surrender ... Purity can mean a lot of things ...So if you can clear my doubt as to what did Shiv ji exactly meant when he asked me to be more pure I can start working on becoming more "pure" ...Whatever Shiv ji meant by that word ...

Hope to hear from you soon ...

[Unknownparadox]

I just might believe it.

What you describe in your original post, happens to me regularly. I have been searching for a explanation for the better part of 30 years. Here is the way I look at these events, and the reason I think they are not random.

What are the odds your lanyard would get caught in the car, in a peculiar or almost impossible way. Slim, but still possible. But then what are the odds that another slim to impossible event such as, your cloths being caught on a recessed pin in the door occur in such a short time span. The odds become very slim that those two things would happen in such a short time span. The lid rolling under the refrigerator was the icing on the cake.

I don't know about you. But I have never been able to relate this to anyone and have them understand. They are of the opinion, well odd stuff happens. While that is true. Odd things do not occur regularly. Otherwise they would not be odd.

After having strange, bizarre and how is it even possible that occurred, events happened to me regularly for my entire life. I have come up with a few possible explanations.

1. This reality is not random. Life can not be random when the highly unlikely and and almost impossible become regular events.

2. Curses are real. And you and I are cursed.

3. Some thing beyond our perceptual acuity is messing with us.

I don't have any advice on what can be done to stop this or even help cope with it. I have tried numerous ways of looking at it. But it doesn't help. I would like to hear more about the strange things that happen to you. I would be happy to share some of mine. But you probably wouldn't believe them even if you saw them. I have trouble believing it and I have seen it, and lived it.

[paperw1ngs]

You wouldn't believe it unless you saw It.

I wear a lanyard around my neck with my house key on it and my car key is on a separate key chain.

Today when I got into the car, my lanyard got caught on my seat belt...but it was the way in which it was caught... which could have only happened if the clasp at the end of the lanyard was undone, half the fabric of the seatbelt pushed through it and then the clasp done up again ON the fabric of the seat belt itself...and this all occurred in a split second.

I went to get my clothes off the line and left my sliding screen door open to do so. Now there's a recessed pin, tiny it is, inside the frame of the screen door... where it latches to close and it's not jutting out whatsoever and it is hardly noticeable.

As I walked through the door carrying an armfull of clothes off the line, a top got caught on this pin, but it was the way in which it was caught...One of those tiny pieces of ribbon inside the top, which are used to hang it on a coat hanger got caught around this pin...but the width of the ribbon was about three times wider than the length of the shaft of the recessed pin...and so it remained precariously dangling from it...A slight breeze could have dislodged it, but apparently not me walking by with an armfull of clothes.

I just took the top of a small jar of chili flakes to use in a stir fry and it was as if the lid flew out of my hand when I opened it, found the floor and then proceeded to roll far underneath the refrigerator...On the opposite side of the kitchen.

When stuff like this happens a few times a day, all I can do is sit down and cry, because it's so bloody ridiculous, it goes way beyond belief, I have no control over it and cannot stop it from happening and thus it stresses me out to the max, because I know that something is screwing with my mind and making my life very difficult and miserable for me and I want it stopped...I want it gone.

You have more power than you know; don't let anyone or anything convince you otherwise (even your own human ego.) To some extent when spirits mess with us it is us messing with ourselves and our own energy; did you leave the door open to whoever may wish to enter? Do you infuse love and light into your connection with divine or spirit realm? Call upon beings of light, GOD, messengers of god, benevolent beings of protection who seek your highest good. Ask for help guidence and protection. When I do this and things arn't going right it soothes my soul and mind and I feel such strength in my guies and angels that I am clearer minded to take on tasks in the "real world." I don't know what you have been reading or watching but you have alot of fear in your mind and that attracts predators...I don't even watch horror movies anymore because I realized it was making me paranoid and subconciously influencing my visions and dreams. Seek the light and the light will find you. Focus on uplifting music, movies, tv, and books for now until it blows over and realize spirits only have the power you give to them. At this point I look at the spirits who mess with people for power as a bit sad and feel a bit sorry for them because no strong force needs to do things like that for their benefit; strength is inside and nothing can ever take that away for good; just rekindle that fire of strength by owning your power in that situation. Sage blessings, protection with your angels/guides and god, seeing low vibration spirits for what they are; weak...no contempt for them, it's just rather clear anything that has to pick on the vulnerable is a weak hearted being at the time that deserves our sympathy not tears etc.