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awareness
11-09-2016, 11:17 PM
Hello friends.

It is very nice to see a space opened here for non-duality exploration and communion. :hug3:

awareness
11-09-2016, 11:26 PM
A mind that appreciates the wonderful diversity of the universe--equally appreciating appearances of both "good" and "bad"--is a mind that perceives clearly beyond illusions. It is a mind of joyous awareness.

Lynn
12-09-2016, 02:45 AM
Hello

This was a member request that we were able to put forth. Little help from our "Tech" friend and its all good to go. Looking forwards to this one very much so.

Lynn
SF Admin

awareness
12-09-2016, 04:11 AM
Hello

This was a member request that we were able to put forth. Little help from our "Tech" friend and its all good to go. Looking forwards to this one very much so.

Lynn
SF Admin

Hello Lynn.

Thank you, bless you. :hug3:

Joe Mc
12-09-2016, 06:04 AM
Excellent ! Thanks so much Lynn for answering my request.

r6r6r
12-09-2016, 05:04 PM
4 kinds of twoness, of a single, 3D phenomena.
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s10/figs/f7310.html

One single, individual Universe----Uni = one.

However, I use the term "U"niverse for a concept that is the most comprehensive set;

"U"niverse / "G"od

...1a} metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept i.e. concepts of God, Universe, Mind, Space, Finite, Infinite, Dogs Cats etc....
-------------line of demarcation---------------------------

1b} metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space,

1c} finite, occupied space, Universe

....1c2} fermions, bosons and any aggregated there of aka physical/energy aka Observed Time ^v

...1c2} gravity---Space ( ),

....1c3} dark energy ----Space )(.

r6

Lynn
12-09-2016, 08:10 PM
Hello

Taking the two words "Universe" and "God" for some they are or can be one in the same and for others they are very much separate. To some the universe is outer space that place that holds the planets and that is that. God is that higher being or power that created the universe and all things in it. God is what looks over what they created.


In Non duality a philosophy there is just One Eternal Spirit in existence, and that everything in the Universe was created by it and is an inseparable part of it. Now this fits to the "God" aspect that is out there. It could be a bit of a stretch but too this could maybe go with the "Big Bang Theory" where thing were created by something or someone.

At the same time, non duality also says that the world is not real, but is an illusion perceived by the mind. I often think to an episode of the original Star Trek, where things seem to be held in place, where the society seems to not have evolved at all. That the people there are "Sheep" to what is happening. But this is so not the case the beings there have evolved to pure energy beings, and the rest is there for show.

I wonder at times if there is way to prove we exist that there is a foundation under us.

I do feel that there is a higher power for me I call that "Universal Divine Light" I do feel that there is more life out there in the universe but I am not sure I buy into "Little Green Men."

Lynn

Zeronknight
13-09-2016, 03:26 AM
Hello

Taking the two words "Universe" and "God" for some they are or can be one in the same and for others they are very much separate. To some the universe is outer space that place that holds the planets and that is that. God is that higher being or power that created the universe and all things in it. God is what looks over what they created.


In Non duality a philosophy there is just One Eternal Spirit in existence, and that everything in the Universe was created by it and is an inseparable part of it. Now this fits to the "God" aspect that is out there. It could be a bit of a stretch but too this could maybe go with the "Big Bang Theory" where thing were created by something or someone.

At the same time, non duality also says that the world is not real, but is an illusion perceived by the mind. I often think to an episode of the original Star Trek, where things seem to be held in place, where the society seems to not have evolved at all. That the people there are "Sheep" to what is happening. But this is so not the case the beings there have evolved to pure energy beings, and the rest is there for show.

I wonder at times if there is way to prove we exist that there is a foundation under us.

I do feel that there is a higher power for me I call that "Universal Divine Light" I do feel that there is more life out there in the universe but I am not sure I buy into "Little Green Men."

Lynn
I know this might be off topic, but I don't know where to put this.
Why do people refer Darkness to evil, and light to good? I just see them as neutral "elements". It's the person's/spirit's choice to be evil/good...or am I wrong? Just curious, because darkness isn't bad....is it?

r6r6r
13-09-2016, 04:03 AM
Universe is everything including me,
Environment is everything excluding me... R. B. Fuller

r6
4 kinds of twoness, of a single, 3D phenomena.
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s10/figs/f7310.html
One single, individual Universe----Uni = one.
However, I use the term "U"niverse for a concept that is the most comprehensive set;
"U"niverse / "G"od
...1a} metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept i.e. concepts of God, Universe, Mind, Space, Finite, Infinite, Dogs Cats etc....
-------------line of demarcation---------------------------
1b} metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space,
1c} finite, occupied space, Universe
....1c2} fermions, bosons and any aggregated there of aka physical/energy aka Observed Time ^v
...1c2} gravity---Space ( ),
....1c3} dark energy ----Space )(.

r6

Joe Mc
13-09-2016, 05:19 AM
At the same time, non duality also says that the world is not real, but is an illusion perceived by the mind.

Thats true. We perceive the world to be real in a certain type of way, that is the illusion. There is no inherent existence of a long lasting self but this is not denying existence. As has been shown to me and others through signs, synchronicities and such like that there was more to the story than meets the eye. I'm sure however this is a starting point or premise for all believers and seekers of all traditions and faiths and pathways. So reality is presented to joe bloggs in a certain type of way, he perceives it in this type of way until one day something out the ordinary something occurs which doesn't fit into the given paradigms for our existence here which are generally presented through science, politics, sociology or whatever. So what has happened ? Has there been a quantum shift in orthodox education that now includes what joe has seen and it has been announced on the Tv while joe was asleep? No, the same paradigms persist its just now joe nows that its not the fully story or to put it more commonly joe in not in charge as he once thought, so if joe is not in charge (which could be a relief lol) then who or what is, does joe even exist in the way he once thought he did ?

Miss Hepburn
13-09-2016, 01:10 PM
I just finished the movie/docu "I AM"....right on the lines of this thread...
Joyous Awareness
Hope someone sees it.

http://www.iamthedoc.com/thefilm/

Joe Mc
16-09-2016, 12:06 PM
I just finished the movie/docu "I AM"....right on the lines of this thread...
Joyous Awareness
Hope someone sees it.

http://www.iamthedoc.com/thefilm/

Thank you Miss Hepburn, I found the film online a couple of days ago and watched it and was very impressed and moved, will watch it again too. Some very interesting stuff like democracy or co-operation being part of our DNA, loved it. :smile:

Starman
18-09-2016, 11:28 PM
I know this might be off topic, but I don't know where to put this.
Why do people refer Darkness to evil, and light to good? I just see them as neutral "elements". It's the person's/spirit's choice to be evil/good...or am I wrong? Just curious, because darkness isn't bad....is it?

In my opinion "good" and "evil" are human concepts related to a dual nature of existence. God is often looked upon as love and light, so many believe that the absence of light, e.g. "darkness" is the opposite of "God," or good. Black, or darkness, has often been looked upon as a void or abyss, and this has been erroneously translated into the human drama, with people looking at anything black or dark being inert, evil, or at least sinister. It is the same in the way a lot of people used to look at a left handed person as sinister, but these notions do relate to a misconception, in my opinion, of duality. My non-dualistic point of view tells me that the darkness is nothing more than the shadow of the light. In my opinion the light is always present, even in the darkest of moments.

7luminaries
24-01-2017, 02:41 PM
I'm here to give thanks for being in the space of joyous awareness. It's closely tied to and tends to yield a deep gratitude and a deeper knowing.

Love is that is. And so, love is the ground of being.

But as individuated beings and individuated consciousness, love is most fully exhalted when rooted in the ground of being and then channeled...to self, to one another, and to all that is, but most especially to sentience with which we can engage. Whether physically embodied or transcendental only (non-physical).

That is the primary experience of existence...channeling the unbounded, one soul at a time.

My deepest gratitude to the universe, my guides, and those I love most closely...for joyous awareness :hug:

Peace & blessings all :hug3:
7L

Sarahsa
24-01-2017, 07:11 PM
Welcome and love to you / me, we are all one.:smile:

jimrich
26-01-2017, 12:06 PM
I just finished the movie/docu "I AM"....right on the lines of this thread...
Joyous Awareness
Hope someone sees it.
http://www.iamthedoc.com/thefilm/
To quote from the above article: Watching I AM is ultimately, for many, a transformative experience, yet Shadyac is reluctant to give specific steps for viewers who have been energized by the film. “What can I do?” “I get asked that a lot,” he says. “But the solution begins with a deeper transformation that must occur in each of us. I AM isn’t as much about what you can do, as who you can be. And from that transformation of being, action will naturally follow.”
The Non-dual sages, wizards and spokespersons I am now following such as: Tony Parsons, Jim Newman, Kenneth Madden, Andreas Muller, Natalie Gray, Rupert Spira, Richard Sylvester, Nathan Gil and a lot of others (google them) also refrain from giving folks methods, techniques and paths to Realization or Awakening and offer their Pointers as descriptions of Reality or Awareness rather than as Prescriptions for "what to do" to "get there". Most of them will say that you are already That or There and so there is no need of a method or practice to be or become what you already are. The problem is that most of us were taught to believe that we are a separate 'me' or self-entity (ego) which spawns all of life's conflicts as we struggle with other me's to acquire more or defend what we now have without ever realizing or remembering that we are one unified whole. The joke of this cosmic play is that these me's are actually phantoms that do not exist (search for your me or self to see it there really is one in you.) and once someone realizes that the 'me' is not real, most if not all fear, insecurity, greed, struggling, fighting, resisting and conflict ENDS and peace occurs as the now liberated Being relaxes from endless struggles with other phantom me's.
“But the solution begins with a deeper transformation that must occur in each of us. I AM isn’t as much about what you can do, as who you can be. And from that transformation of being, action will naturally follow.”
The "transformation" is to see that there is no 'me' in us and then healthier and happier "action" naturally follows when we realize that we ARE "joyous Awareness" or whatever label fits the Nameless.
“What can I do?” I'd say, see that you are NOT a separate, isolate 'me' or individual and that you already are simply Presence/Awareness. ~ John Wheeler

awareness
20-02-2017, 01:20 PM
I'm here to give thanks for being in the space of joyous awareness. It's closely tied to and tends to yield a deep gratitude and a deeper knowing.

Love is that is. And so, love is the ground of being.

But as individuated beings and individuated consciousness, love is most fully exhalted when rooted in the ground of being and then channeled...to self, to one another, and to all that is, but most especially to sentience with which we can engage. Whether physically embodied or transcendental only (non-physical).

That is the primary experience of existence...channeling the unbounded, one soul at a time.

My deepest gratitude to the universe, my guides, and those I love most closely...for joyous awareness :hug:

Peace & blessings all :hug3:
7L

This very much aligns with the original intent of that which initiated this thread, dear 7luminaries. Excellent.

A mind that appreciates the wonderful diversity of the universe--equally appreciating appearances of both "good" and "bad"--is a mind that perceives clearly beyond illusions. It is a mind of joyous awareness.

Ground
20-02-2017, 01:29 PM
Hello friends.

It is very nice to see a space opened here for non-duality exploration and communion. :hug3:
yes but one should avoid a serious misunderstanding: there is not the slightest need to associate 'joyous awareness' and 'non-duality'. :wink:

awareness
20-02-2017, 01:55 PM
There is no misunderstanding, dear Ground. Opening to joy, more and more, is required for one to understand the essence of what "non-duality" is.

You may not feel there is a need to see such an association, but I do.

Also, almost all "non-duality teachings" speak of happiness, peace, which is joy. Clarity is also joy.

Joy is inseparable from "non-duality," if one perceives "non-duality" as Oneness.

From most of your posts, I can see that you, like Jim, clearly like to engage in very lengthy, pointless debates on these subjects. As I did with him in another thread, I will allow you to have the last word on this, Ground.

Being happy is far greater than being "right."

Joyce
20-02-2017, 02:03 PM
There is no misunderstanding, dear Ground. Opening to joy, more and more, is required for one to understand the essence of what "non-duality" is.

You may not feel there is a need to see such an association, but I do.

Also, almost all "non-duality teachings" speak of happiness, peace, which is joy. Clarity is also joy.

Joy is inseparable from "non-duality," if one perceives "non-duality" as Oneness.

From most of your posts, I can see that you, like Jim, clearly like to engage in very lengthy, pointless debates on these subjects. As I did with him in another thread, I will allow you to have the last word on this, Ground.

Being happy is far greater than being "right."

I believe your last words are right on. I enjoy your words ~ thanks

awareness
20-02-2017, 02:09 PM
I believe your last words are right on. I enjoy your words ~ thanks

I enjoy you, Joyce. :smile: (I was thinking earlier how "Joyce" is one of my favorite names. I love how it contains "JOY".)

You're welcome, and thanks for your deep understanding. I'll see you around.

sky123
20-02-2017, 02:36 PM
Oh the joy of eating a piece of Chocolate Fudge Cake drizzled with Fresh Cream and pinged in the Microwave until it becomes one..ness :D

Ground
21-02-2017, 06:23 AM
There is no misunderstanding, dear Ground. Opening to joy, more and more, is required for one to understand the essence of what "non-duality" is.

You may not feel there is a need to see such an association, but I do.
Never mind. A believer in non-duality is joyous because of non-duality as a christian is joyous because Jesus loves him. A non-believer is joyous without knowing why. :D

Deepsoul
21-02-2017, 08:52 AM
Its all very interesting and well I dont even really know ,,its strange how there is no good and bad ,,but yet there is ina way ,, i mean sure we can find the good from the bad etc,,like there is murderers ,criminals and rapists ,peadophiles,, i mean that stuff is pretty hard not too judge,,to me that is bad,,and far from joy but on a lesser scale generally not judging is a good thing lol,,there i go again ,,i can relate to the fella finding his I am,,but i did it all through Jesus,,with being in recovery from cfs,,man can that spirit take you high,,but it also shows you duality too,,love me love me love me ,,unconditionally,,, which is what i had to do,,forgive myself for certain things, just like a killer finds that love and repents and begs forgiveness ,,which all seems to come together if you will it enough,,i thought i would die and then i gave myself to god and prayed and said i love myself unconditionally again and again,,until kundalini,,or the holy spirit came into me ,, im still not completely better and lots of ups and downs as it seems i have alot of deep stuckness still ,my relief is in chanting and connecting with source,,, as well as grounding ,,, i do say i amand then my name and i have to label stuff and etc for the first time i feel like im here ,,and well sometimes ,,as also in recovery from ptsd,,,no real idea whats going on but i push on,,and say i want to live!! so this is one of my fav affirmations ,,Joy Joy Joy flows through my mind my heart,my body,my soul and my experience ,,, if i say it in nature ,,trees sprinkle me with there chi,,,,i had been talking to a fellow on fb ,, i am also married anyway things were rocky ,,and this guy was funny and nice ,,, i let myself relax ,,and boy the k rising i had from my base through me out crown was pure joy ,,,i knew i had to stop ,as i love my husband ,,so i did and i focused on my marriage and that was hard ,,but i just turned up my love for my hubby ,,eventually me moving my focus to this ,,and knowing that i do really love him and our family yeiled results ,,instead of doing essentially what was wrong and taking the easy way out,,but yet the experience i had tried to hook me in,,, also even with mindfulness,,as anything can be justified or released i think one must have a degree of discernment happening as what is best for the greatest good ,,,